| openstackgerrit | Bryan Strassner proposed openstack/airship-shipyard master: [WIP] Set ULID of action on DAG request https://review.openstack.org/589314 | 01:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: Supporting setting domain on nodes https://review.openstack.org/589316 | 01:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: [WIP] Supporting setting domain on nodes https://review.openstack.org/589316 | 01:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: [WIP] Airship Ubuntu/MAAS security guide https://review.openstack.org/589318 | 01:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Add docs build and publish https://review.openstack.org/581703 | 02:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: (security) Airship Security Guide framework https://review.openstack.org/587979 | 02:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: [WIP] Airship Ubuntu/MAAS security guide https://review.openstack.org/589318 | 02:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: docs: Add doc building jobs and doc index page with link https://review.openstack.org/587207 | 02:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Add docs build and publish https://review.openstack.org/581703 | 02:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: (security) Airship Security Guide framework https://review.openstack.org/587979 | 02:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: [WIP] Airship Ubuntu/MAAS security guide https://review.openstack.org/589318 | 02:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-drydock master: Add DNS domains during network config https://review.openstack.org/589196 | 02:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-drydock master: YAPF formatting https://review.openstack.org/589197 | 02:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Add docs build and publish https://review.openstack.org/581703 | 12:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: (security) Airship Security Guide framework https://review.openstack.org/587979 | 12:45 |
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| b-str | Airship community meeting begins in 25 minutes. Please update `New Business` items in the agenda here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-08-07 | 13:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Pallav Gupta proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: Adding node-labels api https://review.openstack.org/584925 | 13:38 |
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| b-str | #startmeeting Airship Community meeting 2018-08-07 | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 7 14:00:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is b-str. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'airship_community_meeting_2018_08_07' | 14:00 |
| roman_g | o/ | 14:00 |
| roman_g | Good morning | 14:00 |
| b-str | #topic Attendance | 14:00 |
| mattmceuen | o/ | 14:00 |
| aaronsheffield | o/ | 14:00 |
| seaneagan | o/ | 14:00 |
| b-str | Please record your attendance on today's etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-08-07 | 14:00 |
| hemanth_n | o/ | 14:00 |
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| sofioni | Hi, can anyone share the meeting details please. | 14:01 |
| roman_g | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-08-07 | 14:02 |
| sofioni | Thanks | 14:03 |
| sthussey | here | 14:03 |
| b-str | #topic Old Business - timeout issue (Armada) - patchset has been merged, any futher discussion? Will continue in 60 seconds with no feedback. | 14:03 |
| b-str | #topic Old Business - PTG Agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/AirshipPTG4 - does not appear to be much here. Any thoughts/comments? Will continue in 60 seconds with no feedback. | 14:05 |
| mattmceuen | What does Regiestered mean in the agenda? | 14:06 |
| roman_g | I'm not coming. | 14:06 |
| mattmceuen | Registered for the PTG attendance? | 14:06 |
| b-str | Ok, - I have an item here - do we need to assign someone to drum up info? | 14:06 |
| b-str | I don't see "registered" | 14:06 |
| b-str | is it because I'm using meetbot topics? | 14:07 |
| sthussey | It is in the AirshipPTG4 | 14:07 |
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| mattmceuen | I think it means "registered to attend", but just double checking | 14:07 |
| b-str | ah, I see | 14:07 |
| sthussey | ... etherpad. I believe it means registered for the PTG | 14:07 |
| b-str | Would anyone like to take an action item to drive forward in that etherpad? | 14:08 |
| mattmceuen | I can take that | 14:08 |
| b-str | #action mattmceuen will drive action on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/AirshipPTG4 | 14:08 |
| mattmceuen | For all attending please be sure to add your name to the list and any topics you'd like to plan to address @ the PTG - I'll do the same | 14:08 |
| mattmceuen | (offline, don't have to do it now) | 14:09 |
| b-str | Any further discussion or thoughts on the PTG topic? | 14:10 |
| sthussey | Is there any expectation or actions from the PTG for those not attending? | 14:10 |
| mattmceuen | Only thing would be to add anything you'd like to be discussed in your absence to the agenda - that would be welcome | 14:11 |
| sthussey | Okay. Well I don't have any topics to be discussed that I wouldn't want to be part of the discussion. | 14:11 |
| portdirect | Normally people set up telepresence so that those not attending in person can participate | 14:12 |
| sthussey | Okay. I see a topic of Design Meetings, so would be interested in telepresence | 14:13 |
| b-str | looks like that made it to the etherpad. | 14:13 |
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| b-str | Maybe add the topics that telepresence would be desired for, so it can be arranged? | 14:14 |
| portdirect | ++ | 14:14 |
| mattmceuen | Yeah - as topics get populated in there, if you're not attending the PTG, please drop a note in the etherpad if it's something you'd like to participate in over telepresence | 14:15 |
| b-str | #action add topics that are desired for telepresence to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/AirshipPTG4 | 14:15 |
| b-str | #topic Current Items: Core reviewer list nominations | 14:16 |
| b-str | Let's move on to the core reviewer nominations. Pleas add nominees to the etherpad at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-08-07 | 14:16 |
| b-str | There is a sub-heading under `Current Items` | 14:16 |
| mattmceuen | There's a set of practices around this already for OpenStack. I suggest we use those unless we find something that doesn't work | 14:17 |
| mattmceuen | We're starting with a list of core reviewers already (inherited from the pre-existing dev team) | 14:17 |
| b-str | Ok - there was a request from last week to experiment with something simple. We can defer the nominations to that process instead. | 14:18 |
| mattmceuen | For new reviewers, they would be proposed on the ML (generally by the PTL, but I don't think that's always the case), and the team votes | 14:18 |
| mattmceuen | Did I miss anything, folks familiar with the process? | 14:18 |
| sthussey | How about pruning inactive cores? | 14:19 |
| portdirect | That's how it's usually done | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | As openstack-helm PTL I've proposed exactly one core, so I'm not the most knowlegeable :) | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | Pruning inactive cores: I looked into this for a similar OSH situation | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | Step 1: Ping them and ask if they're ok with just bowing out -- i.e. whether they intend to keep on core reviewing in the future | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | Step 1 usually does it | 14:19 |
| mattmceuen | There is a more heavyweight formal process to surgically remove a core, but it's a lot of work / suffering I believe | 14:20 |
| mattmceuen | When people bow out as Core, they or the PTL can send out a note on the ML | 14:20 |
| b-str | Ok -sounds like the mailing list is the avenue for most all of this. | 14:21 |
| portdirect | Pinging in private is really the 1st step though | 14:21 |
| b-str | makes sense | 14:22 |
| portdirect | As it looks a bit heavy handed to call people out on the ml out of the blue without context | 14:22 |
| mattmceuen | Reminder: the ML sign-up is here! http://lists.airshipit.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo | 14:22 |
| b-str | feel free to add that to the etherpad | 14:22 |
| mattmceuen | will do | 14:22 |
| b-str | Any further discussion here? 60 seconds. | 14:23 |
| b-str | #topic Current Items: Meeting time reschedule | 14:24 |
| roman_g | Do we keep old time or re-schedule it? | 14:24 |
| b-str | Looks like we had a proposal for 13:30 UTC, but haven't moved it yet. I suspect that next week will also be on the old time as well. | 14:25 |
| b-str | The plan was to use the mailing list to socialize the new time. | 14:25 |
| mattmceuen | I think Mark didn't get to that before heading out on vacation :) | 14:25 |
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| mattmceuen | Were we all good with the 13:30 time, or were we going to give a few options for folks to vote on? I thought the latter but may have missed it | 14:26 |
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| b-str | I think this is true - he's scheduled to be back for the 8/21 meeting - Can this delay until then, or do we need an action on this right.now. | 14:26 |
| sthussey | So 1330 UTC is 0830 CDT correct? | 14:26 |
| b-str | yes | 14:26 |
| sthussey | Just to be clear, that will be 0730 CST correct? | 14:27 |
| mattmceuen | I'm personally ok punting a couple more weeks till Mark gets back | 14:27 |
| b-str | right - UTC - 6 | 14:27 |
| mattmceuen | and keeping as-is till then | 14:27 |
| portdirect | That's 6:30 in CA right? | 14:27 |
| b-str | it would be 5:30 during standard time. | 14:27 |
| sthussey | 0630 PDT, 0530 PST | 14:27 |
| portdirect | May be a bit early for those guys... | 14:28 |
| sthussey | So Nov - Mar, 0530 | 14:28 |
| b-str | indeed. Let's get this on the mailing list in a few weeks and get some good ideas there. | 14:28 |
| b-str | For now, keep as-is | 14:28 |
| sthussey | It seems like an async model using mail or a newsgroup may fit the global audience better | 14:29 |
| mattmceuen | One thing I've learned the hard way: | 14:29 |
| mattmceuen | Different people strongly prefer different communication media | 14:29 |
| b-str | indeed. | 14:29 |
| mattmceuen | I for one am terrible at email - PSA, if you want me to read an email you may need to tell me | 14:30 |
| b-str | ^ this | 14:30 |
| roman_g | in chat? | 14:30 |
| mattmceuen | But some folks (e.g. some non-native-english speakers) really prefer the cadence of an email exchange | 14:30 |
| mattmceuen | So it's nice having a little of each | 14:30 |
| mattmceuen | roman_g yep | 14:31 |
| b-str | Let's make a few notes about concerns and ideas on the etherpad please. | 14:31 |
| b-str | #action update etherpad with ideas/concerns about new meeting time and communication models here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-08-07 | 14:31 |
| b-str | I'd like to move on to new business - any last words? 60 seconds. | 14:32 |
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| b-str | #topic New Business: Gerrit Dashboard | 14:33 |
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| roman_g | if needed - just vote, if not - then not | 14:33 |
| b-str | roman_g has added a link to an example dashboard used for other project areas. Let him know in the etherpad if you'd like to see the same for airship. There is a line item to vote this up, and you can leave comments there as well. | 14:34 |
| roman_g | Thanks :) | 14:34 |
| b-str | Personally, I think this is a nice-to-have thing, as it would be nice to have | 14:35 |
| hemanth_n | +1 for dashboard | 14:36 |
| b-str | Any thoughts or comments? Please put your +1's in the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-08-07 Moving on in 60 seconds with no conversation. | 14:36 |
| b-str | #action add votes for Gerrit dashboard to etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-08-07 | 14:37 |
| b-str | #topic New Business: Bi-weekly Airship sync with OSF | 14:38 |
| b-str | I'm not aware of what this is exactly, brief description anyone? | 14:38 |
| mattmceuen | Reminder (and/or news to you) that we will have a bi-weekly meeting around Airship in Zoom | 14:38 |
| sthussey | What is Zoom? | 14:38 |
| mattmceuen | The goal is to facilitate some open discussion around project governance and design for Airship | 14:38 |
| mattmceuen | just a teleprecense web app, like bluejeans etc | 14:39 |
| soumitrakhuntia | +1 for dashboard | 14:39 |
| mattmceuen | so a phone meeting | 14:39 |
| sthussey | Could you clarify 'design' there? | 14:39 |
| roman_g | http://lists.airshipit.org/pipermail/airship-discuss/2018-August/000053.html - invitation to the meeting | 14:39 |
| roman_g | http://lists.airshipit.org/pipermail/airship-discuss/2018-August/000054.html - notification e-mail' | 14:40 |
| mattmceuen | Yep, to drive the design of Airship - opening up the kind of design call that Rodolfo would host with a private audience previously | 14:40 |
| b-str | #action add links and details of Airship/OSF sync meeting to the etherpad at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-08-07 | 14:40 |
| sthussey | Hmm, so it seems like this is settled business? | 14:40 |
| mattmceuen | It's not fully formed yet, and the bi-weekly meeting is a step in that direction. Since it's the first one, I expect a little "figuring out how the meeting should function" to go on there | 14:40 |
| b-str | so this is 2x a week? | 14:42 |
| mattmceuen | sthussey, yeah, I just added this to the agenda to make sure it's communicated well, since folks (<- this guy) aren't always good at the mailing list ;-) | 14:42 |
| mattmceuen | every other week | 14:42 |
| mattmceuen | to begin with | 14:42 |
| b-str | ok | 14:42 |
| mattmceuen | that is all from me - thanks | 14:42 |
| sthussey | ok | 14:42 |
| b-str | Ok- any further discussion on this topic? I'll move on in 60 seconds with no discussion. | 14:43 |
| b-str | #topic New Business: Methodology for running true gates | 14:44 |
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| sthussey | I put this topic in | 14:45 |
| b-str | This topic is attempting to address the limitations/needs for "bigger" gate test environments. | 14:45 |
| sthussey | currently the zuul gates do testing, but only at the unit and possibly single-project functional level | 14:45 |
| sthussey | there is no integrated platform testing done, which is needed | 14:45 |
| sthussey | so this is just bringing in the community on something that needs to be done. if there is no community interest in this integrated testing, it can be handled purely 3rd party | 14:46 |
| mattmceuen | One suggestion - I put together this repo that integrates Shipyard + Armada + Deckhand + Pegleg for a dev / learning env: https://github.com/mattmceuen/airskiff | 14:46 |
| mattmceuen | It's not a full integration but a partial one, and ought to run in openstack infra adequately if we're gentle with it | 14:47 |
| sthussey | Okay, that is fine though I don't feel adequate as it isn't running on a cluster deployed with Promenade | 14:47 |
| mattmceuen | One of our new college hires at my company has been playing with it and volunteered to try to turn it into a gate yesterday, so I've been chewing on it | 14:47 |
| mattmceuen | 100% agree | 14:47 |
| mattmceuen | it's in the spirit of "something is better than nothing" and "more is better" :) | 14:48 |
| b-str | Ok, mattmceuen, in passing you pondered aloud "how does ironic do their stuff" | 14:48 |
| mattmceuen | there are many ponderables | 14:48 |
| mattmceuen | I don't know the answer to that one yet, anybody have experience w/ Ironic gating? | 14:49 |
| b-str | I think the point I was trying to make is: Is there a model we can leverage? | 14:49 |
| mattmceuen | portdirect have you seen the ironic gating strategy perchance? | 14:50 |
| mattmceuen | sthussey, other thoughts on airship gating in openstack infra | 14:51 |
| mattmceuen | ? | 14:51 |
| b-str | #action determine if there is a model existing in the OpenStack infra space that would allow for e2e gating of airship as a platform | 14:51 |
| sthussey | I'm not particularly interested in rewriting a rational gate system to adapt to the limitations of openstack | 14:52 |
| b-str | #action detemine if 3rd party gating is sustainable and maintainable | 14:52 |
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| sthussey | but will hold any judgments until details of alternatives are available | 14:52 |
| b-str | #action document alternatives/ideas/strategies on the etherpad at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-08-07 | 14:53 |
| b-str | Ok, any last thoughts before we move on and leave that for "current business" next week? I'll move in 60 seconds. | 14:53 |
| b-str | #topic Info and Action items. | 14:54 |
| b-str | I've moved the last two items under new business to a new header in the etherpad. DId not look like discussion items so much as "good info" and "things to do" | 14:55 |
| sthussey | mattmceuen can correct me, but I believe the documentation topic might be up for discussion | 14:55 |
| mattmceuen | yes, but | 14:56 |
| mattmceuen | with 4 mins left maybe good for next time? | 14:56 |
| mattmceuen | thanks sthussey | 14:56 |
| b-str | Sounds like a plan. | 14:56 |
| b-str | #topic open forum for next weeks topics | 14:56 |
| b-str | Please add any items for next week's discussion to the etherpad at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2018-08-14 (this is next week's agenda) | 14:57 |
| b-str | #topic Thank You for all that you do to make Airship a thing :) | 14:58 |
| b-str | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 7 14:58:42 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship_community_meeting_2018_08_07/2018/airship_community_meeting_2018_08_07.2018-08-07-14.00.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship_community_meeting_2018_08_07/2018/airship_community_meeting_2018_08_07.2018-08-07-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship_community_meeting_2018_08_07/2018/airship_community_meeting_2018_08_07.2018-08-07-14.00.log.html | 14:58 |
| mattmceuen | thanks b-str for driving :) | 14:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-shipyard master: Fix security vulnerability using os.system() https://review.openstack.org/577897 | 15:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Sheffield proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: [WIP] Do not merge. https://review.openstack.org/589534 | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pallav Gupta proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: Adding node-labels api https://review.openstack.org/584925 | 17:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Anthony Bellino proposed openstack/airship-armada master: armada Remove duplicate validation calls during an armada apply https://review.openstack.org/589552 | 17:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Sheffield proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: [WIP] Opening apiserver Via Ingress https://review.openstack.org/585531 | 17:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Sheffield proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: [WIP] Do not merge. https://review.openstack.org/589534 | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: Supporting setting domain on nodes https://review.openstack.org/589316 | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-shipyard master: Change logging of sql to single line https://review.openstack.org/589267 | 18:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-promenade master: Update to Helm 2.9.1 https://review.openstack.org/588421 | 18:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Sheffield proposed openstack/airship-promenade master: [WIP] Opening apiserver Via Ingress https://review.openstack.org/585531 | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Sheffield proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: [WIP] Do not merge. https://review.openstack.org/589534 | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Bryan Strassner proposed openstack/airship-shipyard master: Set ULID of action on DAG request https://review.openstack.org/589314 | 18:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/airship-armada master: armada delete --manifest failed https://review.openstack.org/585992 | 18:46 |
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