Tuesday, 2019-09-17

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openstackgerritDmitry Ukov proposed airship/images master: Add basic CI jobs  https://review.opendev.org/68235407:14
openstackgerritDmitry Ukov proposed airship/images master: Initial debian based iso builder  https://review.opendev.org/68205007:14
openstackgerritDmitry Ukov proposed airship/images master: Initial debian based iso builder  https://review.opendev.org/68205007:21
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openstackgerritDmitry Ukov proposed airship/images master: Initial debian based iso builder  https://review.opendev.org/68205008:28
openstackgerritPhil Sphicas proposed airship/armada master: TEST - Use proxy for tar chart sources  https://review.opendev.org/68258008:29
openstackgerritNikolay Fedorov proposed airship/images master: Initial debian based iso builder  https://review.opendev.org/68205009:23
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openstackgerritDeepak proposed airship/airshipctl master: follow-up AIR-82: airshipctl remoteboot specs Design: airshipctl remoteboot subcommand: redfishapi/ansible, target flags: --endpoint, --tranport, -T Implementation: airshipctl remoteboot --action ForceOff redfishapi --endpoint "ip:port" --transport http t  https://review.opendev.org/68198809:51
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openstackgerritNikolay Fedorov proposed airship/images master: Initial debian based iso builder  https://review.opendev.org/68205010:38
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openstackgerritDmitry Ukov proposed airship/airshipctl master: [WIP] Add logic to isogen subcommand  https://review.opendev.org/67585111:27
openstackgerritDmitry Ukov proposed airship/airshipctl master: [WIP] Cloud init generator  https://review.opendev.org/67956311:27
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openstackgerritDmitry Ukov proposed airship/airshipctl master: [WIP] Cloud init generator  https://review.opendev.org/67956312:02
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openstackgerritNikolay Fedorov proposed airship/images master: Initial debian based iso builder  https://review.opendev.org/68205012:16
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openstackgerritvaragini karthik proposed airship/porthole master: Chart/Dockerfile for Postgresql Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/67586612:21
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openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Add profiles to passphrase catalog  https://review.opendev.org/68239812:28
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openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: Add deployment_data to rendered docs  https://review.opendev.org/68160612:39
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Add profiles to passphrase catalog  https://review.opendev.org/68239812:43
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Add profiles to passphrase catalog  https://review.opendev.org/68239812:46
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openstackgerritMerged airship/pegleg master: Handle Pegleg-generated commits in deployment data  https://review.opendev.org/68178612:51
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mattmceuenHey everyone, good morning/evening - here's the agenda for our meeting coming up in an hour; please add anything you'd like to discuss: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-09-1713:06
openstackgerritMerged airship/maas master: maas-ingress and maas-ingress-errors pods with non-root user  https://review.opendev.org/65767113:06
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openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Add profiles to passphrase catalog  https://review.opendev.org/68239813:09
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openstackgerritTrung Thai proposed airship/porthole master: Initial commit of mysqlclient-utility container.  https://review.opendev.org/67488113:13
openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Add profiles to passphrase catalog  https://review.opendev.org/68239813:14
openstackgerritTrung Thai proposed airship/porthole master: Initial commit of mysqlclient-utility container.  https://review.opendev.org/67488113:21
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openstackgerritTrung Thai proposed airship/porthole master: Initial commit of mysqlclient-utility container.  https://review.opendev.org/67488113:42
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mattmceuenHi guys - meeting will start in a couple minutes13:58
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mattmceuen#startmeeting airship14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 17 14:00:12 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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mattmceuen#topic Rollcall14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'airship'14:00
mattmceueno/ everyone!14:00
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mattmceuenLet's give it a couple minutes; I know the design call was stretching over so folks may trickle in14:00
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mattmceuenHere's the agenda for today, feel free to add anything you'd like to discuss (or any patchsets needing review): https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-09-1714:01
michael-beavero/ GM14:01
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mattmceuenOk, let's get started:14:02
mattmceuen#topic Email on ML: participation at Kubecon and MWC?14:02
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mattmceuenJust wanted to call this out for the email-challenged folks like myself :)14:02
khiyaniGM14:02
mattmceuenAt the last airship TC meeting there was discussion around potentially making some airship gatherings at either the upcoming Kubecon or the Mobile World Congress in the spring14:03
mattmceuenTo help with that - the email was sent out to try to gauge potential participation; if you have an idea that you might or might not be able/interested in attending those - please reply on the mailing list14:03
mattmceuenThat's all I wanted to bring up for that as it's already out on the ML for discussion.  Any other questions though?14:04
alexanderhughesa poll might be an easier way to aggregate results.  break it down into a few categories: interested, going, not interested etc.14:04
mattmceuenYeah maybe so14:05
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mattmceuenHowever was also interested in "soft" answers and Q&A14:06
mattmceuenSo far I don't think we've gotten any responses so if we still don't after another day or so I'll try again with a poll :D14:06
alexanderhughesthat's fair.  I think over the next few WC/TC meetings we should aim to identify more events and what we plan to accomplish at each given X participation14:06
mattmceuenyeah agree14:07
mattmceuenOk, moving on to the next topic:14:07
mattmceuen#topic Adding porthole utility containers to AIAB14:07
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mattmceuenThis was to expand on a discussion we'd had maybe 3-4 weeks ago14:07
khiyaniMatt our team has been working on implementing utility-container in airship/treasuremap we have got few comments on that14:08
mattmceuenIn adding the new porthole project (containerized, helm chart-ized ops utility containers for airship), we were interested in adding support for them to e.g. airship in a bottle14:08
openstackgerritMerged airship/spyglass master: Implement intermediary file validation  https://review.opendev.org/67864214:08
khiyanihttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/680482/14:08
mattmceueno/ khiyani14:08
sthusseyI don't know what constitutes AIAB now14:08
jemangso/14:09
mattmceuenA concern was raised in that changeset -- AIAB is already "big", so we should be wary of making it substantially "bigger"14:09
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michael-beaverShould mostly be the aiab site under treasure map as far as I know14:09
mattmceuensthussey: the proposal before was to add the porthole chart(s) to the treasuremap aiab site proper14:10
sthusseyokay, I've only asked it be omitted from the airship-in-a-bottle multinode site14:10
mattmceuenFirst question to khiyani, if you know, is how much overhead a porthole chart might add from a memory perspective?  (note: different utility containers are captured in different porthole helm charts)14:10
khiyaniI am not sure how much RAM does it consume14:11
khiyanihow can we know how much RAM does it consumes ?14:12
sthusseytop14:12
mattmceuenOne option I put in the agenda would be to include just one example porthole chart in the aiab site, and then devs can just add in (or uncomment) others if they want to deploy them14:13
mattmceuenan alternative would be to have a second aiab-ish site that includes porthole charts, but omit them from the general aiab14:13
mattmceuenthoughts/opinions?14:14
nishantkrI like the first approach14:14
michael-beaverI think prefer the first idea as we don't need to be adding even more sites for this IMO14:14
roman_gIf there is a need to constantly test porthole, then create a pipeline which would clone treasuremap and add porthole utilities to it and run tests. Please, don't add utilities to the site which was supposed to be able to fit onto a developer's laptop (20GB RAM).14:15
KavvaI do not think it will take much RAM as these component level utility containers is used to check the state of various services running within the component pods.14:16
mattmceuenif we can find one porthole utility that is both small (to roman_g's laptop point) as well as general-purpose (i.e. generally useful, like etcdctl or something), and enable that by default -- would that be a good compromise?14:16
roman_gShouldn't be a problem to add chart on demand in gates.14:16
roman_gAlso consider disk space usage. Same problem.14:17
roman_gNot talking about CPU cycles.14:17
roman_gYet.14:17
mattmceuenroman_g in addition to testability, a second goal of aiab inclusion is to "advertise" these things -- help raise awareness14:17
nishantkrapart from testing we would also like developers to make use of it, so there should be an option for including the utitliy14:17
sthusseywhy not just include a couple different chart manifests and docs on telling shipyard which to use?14:18
sthusseyno reason you can't define all the YAML for deploying all the charts in the site so developers can use them14:18
michael-beaver^I think I like that idea a lot14:18
michael-beaverLeave the default aiab manifest as the slimmest it can be and create other ones for different use cases14:18
mattmceuenso you're saying sthussey, make e.g. a full-site-porthole.yaml manifest which lives side by side with the full-site.yaml manifest, and then make it clear to devs (etc) how to deploy it using aiab?  That sounds good to me14:19
roman_gAdvertising is a good thing, I agree. Provide good docs, videos on youtube, presentations. But if our users are being told that they now need 30-40GB RAM to test very basic Airship (with all features) - who would be intrested in that so much to find resources, unless one works for an enterprise?14:19
roman_g+40GB HDD14:20
roman_gPeople use SSD's now, and 40GB is a lot.14:20
michael-beaverWe could even enhance the airship-in-a-bottle script to take in a parameter for which full-site.yaml they want14:20
roman_gSounds a lot better :)14:21
michael-beaverI do agree though roman, the requirements are already becoming prohibitive for entry level testers14:21
openstackgerritTrung Thai proposed airship/porthole master: Initial commit of mysqlclient-utility container.  https://review.opendev.org/67488114:21
mattmceuenkhiyani:  does this sound good to you?  1) don't change full-site.yaml or bootstrap.yaml   2)   add a full-site-porthole.yaml that includes all the utility containers , 3) document in the AIAB readme something like "to deploy with porthole utility containers <link> make this configuration change..." ?14:22
khiyanisounds good to me14:22
mattmceuennote:  this is the one line config that would need to be changed:  https://opendev.org/airship/treasuremap/src/branch/master/site/aiab/deployment/deployment-configuration.yaml#L3814:23
mattmceuenthe value corresponds to the document name (not the filename) of the armada manifest you want to deploy14:23
mattmceuenawesome14:23
mattmceuenI think we have a path forward -- anything additional on this topic, team?14:23
thyagarajlooks good matt14:23
mattmceuencool - moving on!14:24
mattmceuen#topic Deckhand support for python 2.714:24
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khiyaniThanks Matt14:24
mattmceuennishantkr this is yours, go for it14:24
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nishantkrI happened to look into deckhand code a bit yesterday and i see it has zuul jobs running for python2.7 and some other documentation related to that, i was wondering do we still need those and the reasoning for supporting python2.7 in deckhand as I don't see it supporting in any other Airship repo?14:25
openstackgerritTrung Thai proposed airship/porthole master: Initial commit of mysqlclient-utility container.  https://review.opendev.org/67488114:25
mattmceuenI personally have no qualms with deprecating py2.7 in deckhand14:25
nishantkrIf not needed, i can make a change to remove those14:25
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ian-pittwoodpy27 is close to being unsupported so I doubt we'll need to keep it14:26
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roman_gnishantkr: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677552/ I failed to cleanly remove it.14:27
roman_gProbably something else is needed14:27
nishantkroh ok, i will take a look at that, thanks roman_g14:27
roman_gIan: I'm not sure, pegleg broke randomly as well. I have to take the afternoon off though so I'll look at it tomorrow if it's still broken for you14:27
roman_grunning recheck just out of curiosity14:28
mattmceuensounds good - thank you guys14:28
openstackgerritRoman Gorshunov proposed airship/deckhand master: Remove Python 2.x support  https://review.opendev.org/67755214:29
mattmceuen#topic Review Requests14:29
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mattmceuenI have carried over three patches from last week:14:29
mattmceuen    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676700/ - Spec: Introduce isogen subcommand for airshipctl14:29
mattmceuen    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676121/ - Airshipctl: Add isogen subcommand for bootstrap14:29
mattmceuen    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675851/ - Airshipctl: Add logic to isogen subcommand14:29
mattmceuenThey got good review and I believe are ready for some more14:29
mattmceuenany additional requests team?14:30
roman_gmattmceuen: outreachy. I gonna cancel request, I guess.14:30
roman_gNo funding.14:30
cjainCreating airship folder under https://github.com/openstack/rpm-packaging for airship rpm packaging14:31
openstackgerritTrung Thai proposed airship/porthole master: Initial commit of mysqlclient-utility container.  https://review.opendev.org/67488114:31
roman_gcjain: we are not really part of OpenStack software14:32
roman_gwe are in OpenStack foundation14:32
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roman_gkskels: Hi Kaspars. Need your magical access to github.com/airshipit SSH key. Please, update PS in airship/images with encrypted SSH key when you have time. Thank you!14:33
roman_gThat's to enable sync.14:34
kskelsyes, and I should share that key somehow14:34
Kavva@Matt I made changes to include etcdctl-utility container in Treasuremap. But when i deploy Treasuremap i do not see etcdctl-utility deployed. Could you please go through this ps https://review.opendev.org/#/c/680482/ and let me me know what i am missing.14:34
kskelsI know we discussed this - did we come up with a conclusion where to store these kinda  things14:34
roman_gkskels: That's problem of technical committee, they wanted to decide how to keep keys to services we use.14:35
mattmceuenKavva:  sure thing14:35
mattmceuenroman_g:  that's too bad on the funding side re: outreachy.  Thanks for pursuing it14:35
roman_gmattmceuen: I read it as your aqgreement on cancelling it. :)14:36
roman_g*agreement14:36
mattmceuenI consent :)14:36
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roman_g:tumbs_up:14:36
roman_g*thumbs14:36
cjainwe want to create rpm-packages for airship components and openstack-rpm-packaging suggested to create airship folder under https://github.com/openstack/rpm-packaging14:36
mattmceuensorry cjain: I don't think we have the experts in this IRC channel for that one14:37
sthusseyairship components are deployed as OCI images14:37
mattmceuenoh I misread, please disregard my comment cjain14:37
roman_gcjain: in addition to the fact that airship is not a part of OpenStack, software we develop is supposed to be packaged into containers only. Not into RPM's.14:38
mattmceuencjain: can you help describe what you're trying to accomplish through rpm packaging, maybe we can help?14:38
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mattmceuenkskels: "did we come up with a conclusion on where to store credentials":  the suggestion was to look into what openstack-infra is doing today14:40
cjainIn order to build containers we first need to create RPM spec for packaging14:40
mattmceuenas they have some mature practices around shepherding credentials, encrypting them, avoiding the bus factor, etc14:40
mattmceuencjain:  ok.  What can we do to help?14:41
kskelsfyi: perhaps completely off but we also have SUSE based images for most things now, especially openstackhelm parts - perhaps something that might be of interest. They build images using Dockerfiles as here https://github.com/airshipit/deckhand/blob/master/images/deckhand/Dockerfile.opensuse_1514:43
mattmceuenI don't have any experience with RPM packaging (I personally don't have much interest in it either) but if it's helpful for others, I wouldn't get in the way14:43
cjainSo I wanted to discuss if it is the right approach to create airship folder under https://github.com/openstack/rpm-packagi14:44
mattmceuencjain:  I recommend you take a look at what SUSE have done first^ to see whether you really need rpm packaging14:44
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roman_gcjain: who is interested in developing RPM specs?14:45
openstackgerritTrung Thai proposed airship/porthole master: Initial commit of mysqlclient-utility container.  https://review.opendev.org/67488114:46
cjainIn SUSE we create rpm packages for components and build them in OBS+IBS14:46
mattmceuenok14:47
cjainAnd then we use that to build container images14:47
mattmceuenI really don't have much experience with RPM building conventions (containerized or otherwise) so unfortunately I don't have a really good answer for you14:47
mattmceuenI don't have any concerns personally with https://github.com/openstack/rpm-packaging, if you are familiar/comfortable with that14:48
cjainSure thanks14:48
mattmceuenand the rpm-packaging team doesn't mind hosting airship RPM stuff alongside "openstack proper"14:48
jamesguso SUSE will create the rpm spec :-(. The proposal from the rpm pgk team is to add the airship folder inthe openstack/rpm-package project. So cjain is bringing this to attention, as fyi14:48
mattmceuenmakes sense to me now, I was a little slow on the uptake jamesgu :)14:49
roman_gmattmceuen: one more thing: we have utilities containers in porthole repo, and supplementary images in images repo. Hope it's OK.14:49
roman_gcjain, jamesgu: oh, thanks. So it wouldn't be just empty folder :)14:49
jamesguright roman_g. not idea as you pointed out airship is not openstack proper (yet)14:50
kskelsso likely openstack parts are good under /openstack, for airship components if RPMs used, likely you need opendev.org/airship/rpm-packages14:50
kskels?14:50
jamesgukskels: the airship/rpm-packages is not the route they want to take yet14:50
cjainit will be https://github.com/openstack/rpm-packaging/airship14:51
kskelshm - that's somewhat strange to me as those 2 projects are pretty independednt - openstack-helm/airship14:51
roman_gjamesgu: I wanted to say that Airship is not a component of OpenStack, as in this openstack/rpm-packaging repo I see OpenStack components only.14:51
kskelsexactly14:51
kskelsI feel if you want to package say Deckhand - it really doesn't belong there..14:52
jamesguI'd tend to agree with you roman_g and kskels. cjain, what are the reasons that rpm team is proposing to add a folder?14:52
cjainIt seems openstack-rpm-packaging already discussed this topic and they suggested to airship folder next to openstack folder under https://github.com/openstack/rpm-packaging14:53
mattmceuenI have no problem with creating an airship/rpm-packaging project, as long as folks were willing to support it14:54
Kavva@Matt Thanks.14:54
mattmceuenThe benefit I see of of the openstack/rpm-packaging project is that it exists, has a team, and has all the CI plumbing in place14:55
roman_gI'm fine with whatever contributers are comfortable to work with. Could be https://github.com/openstack/rpm-packaging/airship.14:56
roman_g*contributors14:56
mattmceuenPasting the full review request in, since a few have been added:14:56
mattmceuen    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676700/ - Spec: Introduce isogen subcommand for airshipctl14:56
mattmceuen    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676121/ - Airshipctl: Add isogen subcommand for bootstrap14:56
mattmceuen    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675851/ - Airshipctl: Add logic to isogen subcommand14:56
mattmceuen    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677944/ - Project Config: New project request: airship/images14:56
cjainroman_g yes14:56
mattmceuen    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678106/ - airskiff suse site14:56
mattmceuen    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678109/ - Armada metric output for genesis14:56
mattmceuen    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657879/ - Run haproxy pod with the nobody user14:56
mattmceuen    https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657671/ - maas-ingress and maas-ingress-errors pods with non-root user14:56
kskelsI would vote for Matt's "I have no problem with creating an airship/rpm-packaging project, as long as folks were willing to support it"14:56
mattmceuenSorry cjain, I feel like we have come back and put the question back in your lap :)  I think we could go either way and it depends in part in what you & your team were willing to do and support14:57
mattmceuenjamesgu do you have a strong opinion?  Or want to think about it first?14:57
jamesgumattmceuen: that sounds like a good answer14:57
jamesguI don't have strong opinion14:58
mattmceuenwe are unanimous then :D14:58
cjainjamesgu mattmceuen Sure thanks14:58
mattmceuenThat's the agenda, folks - any other topics anyone would like to bring up in our 2 remaining minutes?14:58
mattmceuensure thing cjain, thanks for bringing it up14:58
mattmceuenin that case:  thanks all for joining, and have a great week!14:59
mattmceuen#endmeeting14:59
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openstackgerritPhil Sphicas proposed airship/armada master: Allow proxy_server use for chart tarball downloads  https://review.opendev.org/68258015:05
openstackgerritPhil Sphicas proposed airship/armada master: Allow proxy_server use for chart tarball downloads  https://review.opendev.org/68258015:16
openstackgerritTrung Thai proposed airship/porthole master: Initial commit of mysqlclient-utility container.  https://review.opendev.org/67488115:27
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openstackgerritMatt Carter proposed airship/shipyard master: Update help docs for actions in Shipyard Client  https://review.opendev.org/63277816:48
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openstackgerritMerged airship/specs master: Split 1.x and 2.x Specs to separate directories  https://review.opendev.org/68151918:50
openstackgerritMerged airship/specs master: Remove noop Zuul job  https://review.opendev.org/68152918:50
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openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/treasuremap master: [WIP] Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/68048219:23
openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/treasuremap master: [WIP] Chart/Dockerfile for etcdctl Utility Container  https://review.opendev.org/68048219:24
openstackgerritKaspars Skels proposed airship/treasuremap master: Update genesis kernel install section  https://review.opendev.org/68272419:26
openstackgerritStas Egorov proposed airship/treasuremap master: Run haproxy as nobody  https://review.opendev.org/68272819:42
openstackgerritMerged airship/treasuremap master: Update genesis kernel install section  https://review.opendev.org/68272419:54
openstackgerritKaspars Skels proposed airship/treasuremap master: Run haproxy as nobody  https://review.opendev.org/68272819:59
openstackgerritRahul Khiyani proposed airship/treasuremap master: [WIP] integrate ceph utility container  https://review.opendev.org/68113520:00
openstackgerritMerged airship/shipyard master: Update help docs for actions in Shipyard Client  https://review.opendev.org/63277820:03
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openstackgerritMatt Carter proposed airship/maas master: Add retries to MaaS BMC user configuration  https://review.opendev.org/68246820:49
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openstackgerritNishant Kumar proposed airship/deckhand master: [WIP/DNM][Testing] Disable unused code for validation policy as feature not implemented  https://review.opendev.org/68129621:31
openstackgerritPhil Sphicas proposed airship/armada master: Allow proxy_server use for chart tarball downloads  https://review.opendev.org/68258021:56
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