Tuesday, 2019-10-22

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openstackgerritKaspars Skels proposed airship/treasuremap master: Streamline Seaworthy use of servers  https://review.opendev.org/68958403:49
openstackgerritKostyantyn Kalynovskyi proposed airship/airshipctl master: [WIP] Adding initinfra subcommand  https://review.opendev.org/68720904:14
openstackgerritKostyantyn Kalynovskyi proposed airship/airshipctl master: [WIP] Adding initinfra subcommand  https://review.opendev.org/68720904:59
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openstackgerritDoug Aaser proposed airship/promenade master: Migrate config to KubeletConfiguration  https://review.opendev.org/68792711:51
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openstackgerritDmitry Ukov proposed airship/airshipctl master: Add bootstrap configuration to global cconfig  https://review.opendev.org/68891413:01
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pramchan#info pramchan13:37
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pramchanDeepak you had a question on https://airship.atlassian.net/browse/AIR-61 , can you add to etherpad13:41
pramchanWhere is the etherpad for edit?13:42
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dwaltHey everyone! Meeting in about 15 min. Etherpad is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-10-2213:44
pramchanThanks13:44
dwaltsure thing pramchan13:44
uzumakithanks dwalt13:45
pramchan#info dddpak canyou add details of option-1 & 2 in etherpad - https://airship.atlassian.net/browse/AIR-61 13:47
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openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/governance master: Clarification of committee roles in disputes  https://review.opendev.org/68952613:51
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dwaltpramchan: dddpak: I'm going to move the zuul item from the "announcements" section to the "new business" section unless you're opposed13:58
dwaltas I'm not sure it fits as an announcement :)13:58
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dwalt#startmeeting airship14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 22 14:00:17 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dwalt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
dwalt#topic rollcall14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'airship'14:00
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dwaltwelcome everyone! Here is today's agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-10-2214:00
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dwaltwe'll give it five minutes for everyone to join, as I see the etherpad is shifting around a bit14:01
nishantkro/14:01
seaneagano/14:01
uzumakio/14:01
portdirecto/14:01
raschido/14:01
aaronsheffieldo/14:01
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alexanderhugheso/14:01
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jtwill98meeting14:04
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dwalthi jtwill98! Yep, you're in the right place :)14:05
dwaltlet's get started14:05
dwalt#topic KubeCon14:05
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dwaltIf you haven't heard, we are planning to have a "mini" PTG at KubeCon14:05
dwaltFor that PTG, we have an etherpad. Please feel free to add your name as an attendee if you plan to join. And any topics you'd like to discuss14:06
dwalthttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-kubecon-san-diego14:06
kirandivekarThis is 18th Nov, right?14:06
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dwaltRight now it's planned for Monday, 12:30-6:30. But we'll start around 114:07
howello/14:07
dwaltkirandivekar: I think that's the date14:07
dwaltwelcome howell14:07
dwaltalso it's Cobalt room 501 at the Hilton. Any questions?14:07
dwaltfantastic.14:08
dwalt#topic Project confirmation14:08
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dwaltRight now Airship is being pitched for official project confirmation!14:08
dwaltThe OSF board will vote after the meeting. The outcome can go one of three ways:14:09
dwaltAirship will either be confirmed as a result of the meeting, delayed for more discussion, or not confirmed at this time14:09
dwaltWe hope to have more updates soon14:10
dwaltanything on the confirmation?14:10
alexanderhughesboard meeting is ~2 hours, community update to be sent out with status of confirmation among other topics target end of week/early next week14:10
dwaltty alexanderhughes14:11
dwalt#topic Recommend to use Ironic for Redfish support in metal3-io for RAID/BIOS config14:11
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dwaltrevisiting this item from last week. Can someone speak to this one?14:11
dwaltuzumaki: I believe that's your color14:11
uzumakiThis is me, something we discussed last time14:11
dddpakyes14:13
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dwaltLooks like we lost uzumaki14:13
uzumakisorry about that14:13
dwaltah welcome back :)14:14
uzumakiso, the thing we talked about last week, should we use metal3->ironic->redfish or metal3->redfish14:14
uzumakifirst, are there any developments on this?14:14
dddpakpramchan worked on this, I guess14:15
shubham_kaushalsince i am new to airship, I am curious will there be any metal3 version recommended to use?14:15
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dwalthowell, did any of the metal^3 stuff get merged from last week?14:17
howellnone of it is merged yet. I'm making it a priority to review today14:17
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nishantkruzumaki we have plans to integrate ironic with metal3 and redfish, currently i see the work is ongoing in the airshipctl project to implement the bootstrap command with redfish14:18
dwaltty howell. Unfortunately, mattmceuen couldn't make it today since he is at the confirmation. I'll check with him later and see if he has any updates about the ericsson work he mentioned last week14:18
nishantkrshubham_kaushal I don't think we have yet decided on any particular metal3 version to use14:18
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shubham_kaushalthanks nishantkr!14:19
AshuKumarProject specification :  version for GoLang and k8s we are planning to use14:19
uzumakialright, since ironic supports redfish as well, wouldn't it become redundant to implement redfish separately for airshipctl ?14:19
uzumakidwalt, let me know what he says!14:20
nishantkruzumaki That command is for the initial bootstrap of the cluster i.e. bootstrapping your first node14:20
openstackgerritMerged airship/docs master: Add YAML and CRD conventions  https://review.opendev.org/68900614:21
jtwill98I think there a lot of experience to learn from in the ironic community, I'm not sure metal^3 has experienced some of the glitches.  I know ironic supports more than just redfish because redfish didn't cover all the hardware config options.14:21
portdirectthe intent is to make use of that as much as possible14:22
uzumakiportdirect, that would be good!14:22
dwaltI am not familiar with the details, but if there is an ironic implementation, we should pursue that14:22
jtwill98I think redfish is catching up but there may still be some outliers items.14:22
dwaltso as to not write multiple drivers14:23
portdirectas nishantkr has pointed out, the primary/only use of refish in airshipctl will be to help boostrap the 1st node14:23
portdirectso simply, iso mount, and power14:23
portdirectafter then, we should be making use of metal3/ironic for all actions14:23
GarimaM44I am facing issue while deploying Airskiff. The page "https://airship-treasuremap.readthedocs.io/en/latest/airskiff.html" mentions about a script "./tools/deployment/common/005-deploy-k8s.sh" which is missing from the github repository.14:24
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uzumakiportdirect, as long as we can reuse things in airshipctl, would be easier than reimplementing14:25
dwalthey GarimaM44 -- we're having a meeting right now. Happy to help afterwards :)14:25
jtwill98We've been able to Uefi mount nested VMs with the sushy-tools emulator.  We're hoping to have something working with baremetal Dell servers.14:25
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nishantkrAshukumar In terms of k8s version we are always trying to use/upgrade to the latest version available, so as of now it would be 1.1614:27
AshuKumarnishantkr Thanks. And about GoLang,  1.13 is latest stable version. so it will be good to go with 1.1314:29
jtwill98Ironic does offer a lot with regards to discovering node inventory, which will also be nice when it come to validating actual hardware node inventories against node documentation14:29
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rajat143As we are talking about versions is there any ironic specific version we will be using. Have anybody tried ironic standalone deployment on ubuntu 18.04. Any suggestions.14:31
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portdirectraschid: the version of ironic is dictated by metal3 support14:31
portdirectim using stein on 18.04 in my home lab standalone, but not sure what metal3 is targetting atm, i would have thought master?14:32
dwaltat a quick glance, I can't find any specific information. But I imagine portdirect is right14:35
portdirectmaster: https://github.com/metal3-io/ironic-image/blob/master/Dockerfile#L414:35
portdirectoh sorry - train14:35
dwaltthanks portdirect14:36
dwaltI think we touched on all of the versions questions. Was there anything we missed on this?14:36
rajat143Thanks portdirect14:36
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uzumakii think this is it14:37
dwaltgreat. And I will update you later on the ericsson stuff uzumaki14:37
uzumakigreat14:37
dwalt#topic Additional Airship cross-project standards [romang, mattmceuen]14:37
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dwalthey roman_g: are you out there today?14:37
dwaltI assume we are just looking for reviews on these items:14:37
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dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685049/14:38
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685038/14:38
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689006/14:38
dwaltfeel free to add any details roman_g14:38
dwaltactually, it appears he's not in the channel list. I'll post these with the other review patches later14:39
dwalt#topic Ussuri/Shanghai PTG agenda:14:39
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dwalt#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-ptg-ussuri14:39
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dwaltthe etherpad for the upcoming ussuri PTG is live! We'd like to add discussion points and onboarding items to it14:40
dwaltWe plan to start with and emphasize onboarding in the first portion of the PTG if we have an influx of contributors14:41
openstackgerritRoman Gorshunov proposed airship/docs master: Add container image and Dockerfile conventions  https://review.opendev.org/68503814:41
dwaltIf we have fewer, we will emphasize the discussion points in the etherpad. We'll also review these items at KubeCon14:42
dwaltAny on the upcoming PTG?14:42
dwalt#topic Proposal: add new metadata field "peglegStoragePolicy" to documents14:43
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dwaltalexanderhughes ian-pitwood14:43
dwaltfloor is yours14:43
ian-pittwoodhello14:43
ian-pittwoodso as I understand it we have multiple components trying to use metadata.storagePolicy14:43
ian-pittwoodAlex wishes to make a separate field in metadata just for pegleg in order to avoid some potential confusion14:44
ian-pittwoodThat way it's clear cut on whether pegleg needs to encrypt a document or not14:44
dwaltTo be clear, Pegleg is not storing any documents, right?14:45
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uzumakiI think so, storage is deckhand14:46
ian-pittwoodNo, but it is doing some document management as far as encryption, linting, etc...14:46
ian-pittwoodstorage should be deckhand though, right14:46
openstackgerritAhmad Mahmoudi proposed airship/shipyard master: (airflow) - Apache airflow uplift to 1.10.4  https://review.opendev.org/68901514:47
dwaltSo we currently only encrypt documents when the storagePolicy is encrypted? And the Pegleg team wants to add a new field to toggle that behavior for Pegleg?14:48
ian-pittwoodYes, the new field would be to indicate whether that data should be encrypted or not by pegleg14:49
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ian-pittwoodAnd leave storagePolicy for deckhand and barbican14:51
dwaltWhat issues are we having using the same field?14:51
alexanderhughesdeckhand and barbican both currently use metadata.storagePolicy, the idea is to separate encryption from the multiple services.  pegleg encryption will allow encryption of documents stored in source control.  operators may be having separate ideas on encryption within deckhand or barbican - barbican in particular is a major pain point14:51
dwaltPersonally, I wouldn't be opposed to adding one if it was appropriately named. But I am not sure I understand the need yet14:51
alexanderhughesour current behavior is to encrypt when storagePolicy:encrypted, and when decrypted force it back to cleartext.  but Pegleg shouldn't be manipulating documents.  by adding metadata.PeglegStoragePolicy we would allow operators to choose what encryption(s) are used and when without pegleg modifying documents.  to ensure backwards compatability the default value of this new field would be "cleartext"14:52
dwaltI agree14:54
nishantkrTo me that sounds a valid need and i think we ran into this issue during password rotation14:54
dwaltIf this allows us to get around the manipulation of documents, that's an easy one14:54
dwaltMy only suggestion is that the name "PeglegStoragePolicy" is not entirely accurate. As Deckhand owns that field, and it actually stores documents14:55
dwaltSomething like "PeglegEncryptionPolicy" would be more accurate14:55
alexanderhughespeglegEncryption:<true|false> default false ?14:55
ian-pittwoodI like that14:56
dwaltworks for me14:56
alexanderhughesthanks, I'll take this item and propose a patch soon14:56
dwaltsounds good. Thanks for the discussion alexanderhughes14:56
dwalt#topic     Leverage Zuul for Unit Tests - Deepak (https://airship.atlassian.net/browse/AIR-61) (copied from announcements)14:57
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dwaltwe are cutting it close, but all yours dddpak14:57
dwaltor we can visit this on the next meeting14:57
dddpakyes14:57
dddpakApproach 1: https://opendev.org/openstack/openstack-helm-infra14:58
dddpakwe are trying openstack-helm-infra zuul.d14:58
dddpakto push for getting ubuntu VM up14:58
dwaltdo you have a patch?14:58
dddpaknot yet14:58
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dddpakbut the question is, since we are using zuul314:59
dddpakCan we bringup local node for testing purposes using openstack gerrit as usual??14:59
dwaltlike a third-party node? I'm not sure that is possible15:00
dddpakor may be local CI??15:00
dddpakI thought that was possible with zuul315:00
dddpakwould be very useful to test patch before submit15:01
dwaltdddpak: Sorry, I'm not sure I'm following, and we are out of time. Can we revisit this during the next meeting or in the main channel?15:01
dddpakok15:01
dwaltty15:01
dwaltlast thing: reviews please!15:01
dwalt#topic reviews15:01
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dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676700/ - Spec: Introduce isogen subcommand for airshipctl15:01
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675851/ - Airshipctl: Add logic to isogen subcommand15:01
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679563/ - Airshipctl: Generate cloud init settings15:01
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685049/ airship/docs Add Ansible code formatting documentation15:01
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682050/ - Airship Images: Initial debian based iso builder15:01
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682354/ - Airship Images: Add basic CI jobs15:01
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686389/ - vBMC emulator environment setup document15:01
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689526/ - Governance update to clarify responsibilities of TC/WC in event of a dispute15:01
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685049/15:01
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685038/15:01
dwalt#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689006/15:01
dwaltthanks for coming everyone. Have a good day!15:01
dwalt#endmeeting15:01
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clarkbI'm not sure I understand what "Can we bringup local node for testing purposes using openstack gerrit as usual?" means, but the infra team is happy to help answer questions and sort out how goals can be achieved with the CI system15:02
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dddpakclarkb  how do I check for jobs I add in zuul.d??15:09
dddpakI depend until CI zuul pipeline works15:09
clarkbdddpak: changes to your zuul config are typically executed by zuul premerge (the exception is when dealing with privileged data like secrets)15:09
clarkbwhat this means is you should be able to push your change and let zuul run it and see if it works15:10
dddpakyes, pushing and checking until it works would be a long cycle15:10
dddpakI thought it could be shortened in case in bring in local CI with gerrit15:11
dddpakif it is supported15:11
clarkbI'm not sure I understand local CI with gerrit. Do you mean you want to run your tests locally after pushing the change to gerrit? There isn't support for that (zuul will run the tests remotely). What you can do instead is run ansible locally against local resources to run your test playbooks15:12
dddpakI want to bring up local node, instead of zuul nodes15:12
dddpakwhile I commit to gerrit and trigger zuul15:12
clarkbyou can do that and we publish our VM images at https://nb01.openstack.org and https://nb02.openstack.org however in many cases using the default distro image should also work15:13
clarkbbut you'll have to execute your ansible playbooks for the job yourself15:13
dddpakis there any write-up available15:14
dddpaktowards the same15:14
dddpakthat will help15:14
clarkbI'm not aware of one15:14
dddpaknp15:14
clarkbtripleo may have one though I know they do similar at times, but I don't know if it has made it into their docs15:14
dddpaklet me see15:15
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dddpakthanks clarkb15:18
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openstackgerritAlexander Hughes proposed airship/governance master: Add current committee members and election date  https://review.opendev.org/69011015:33
openstackgerritRahul Khiyani proposed airship/treasuremap master: Integrate calicoctl utility container in airship/treasuremap  https://review.opendev.org/68105515:50
openstackgerritRahul Khiyani proposed airship/treasuremap master: Integrate calicoctl utility container in airship/treasuremap  https://review.opendev.org/68105515:51
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mattmceuencongrats, team:  Airship is a confirmed OSF project :)16:05
dwalt\o/16:05
kskels\o/16:08
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openstackgerritNishant Kumar proposed airship/promenade master: [DNM/WIP] changes to support k8s v1.16  https://review.opendev.org/68539616:15
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nishantkrGreat news!! Congratulations team !!\o/16:15
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openstackgerritMerged airship/shipyard master: (airflow) - Apache airflow uplift to 1.10.4  https://review.opendev.org/68901516:24
alexanderhughes\o/16:39
alexanderhughescelebrate!16:39
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openstackgerritDoug Aaser proposed airship/promenade master: Migrate config to KubeletConfiguration  https://review.opendev.org/68792717:00
openstackgerritDoug Aaser proposed airship/promenade master: Migrate config to KubeletConfiguration  https://review.opendev.org/68792717:21
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openstackgerritDoug Aaser proposed airship/promenade master: Migrate config to KubeletConfiguration  https://review.opendev.org/68792718:01
openstackgerritDoug Aaser proposed airship/promenade master: Migrate config to KubeletConfiguration  https://review.opendev.org/68792718:12
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openstackgerritJagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/treasuremap master: Integrate etcdctl utility container in airship/treasuremap  https://review.opendev.org/68048218:41
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openstackgerritAlexander Noskov proposed airship/treasuremap master: Move deployment scripts from AIAB to Treasuremap  https://review.opendev.org/68649619:55
openstackgerritAlexander Noskov proposed airship/treasuremap master: Pipeline for testing seaworthy-virt  https://review.opendev.org/68049519:55
openstackgerritAlexander Noskov proposed airship/treasuremap master: Revert "Set replicaset 1 for PostgreSQL in seaworthy-virt"  https://review.opendev.org/69039219:55
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openstackgerritStas Egorov proposed airship/promenade master: [wip]: for test containerd  https://review.opendev.org/68684121:05
openstackgerritStas Egorov proposed airship/promenade master: [wip]: containerd 1.3  https://review.opendev.org/69041421:05
openstackgerritIan Howell proposed airship/airshipctl master: This removes golangci-lint as a go module dependency.  https://review.opendev.org/69042221:25
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