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| mattmceuen | Hi everyone -- our IRC meeting will start in ~40 minutes, here's the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-12-03 | 14:20 |
| mattmceuen | Please feel free to add any items you'd like to discuss today | 14:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lindsey Durway proposed airship/porthole master: Editorial changes to README.md files https://review.opendev.org/696366 | 14:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lindsey Durway proposed airship/porthole master: Editorial changes to README.md files https://review.opendev.org/696366 | 14:57 |
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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting airship | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 3 14:59:59 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: airship)" | 15:00 | |
| mattmceuen | #topic Rollcall | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'airship' | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: airship)" | 15:00 | |
| mattmceuen | Hello everyone - time for our weekly IRC meeting! | 15:00 |
| uzumaki | o/ | 15:00 |
| souradage | o/ | 15:00 |
| howell | o/ | 15:00 |
| alexanderhughes | o/ | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | Here's the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-12-03 | 15:00 |
| ian-pittwood | o/ | 15:00 |
| michael-beaver | o/ | 15:00 |
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| mattmceuen | please add any additional items, we'll wait a couple minutes to get giong | 15:00 |
| aaronsheffield | o/ | 15:00 |
| seaneagan | o/ | 15:00 |
| nishantkr | o/ | 15:02 |
| kskels | o/ | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks for joining everyone | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Some interfaces between airshipctl and kustomize are not avaialble yet | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Some interfaces between airshipctl and kustomize are not avaialble yet (Meeting topic: airship)" | 15:03 | |
| mattmceuen | We have several items left from last week which we didn't have time to get to | 15:03 |
| mattmceuen | And I'm not certain now who added them to the agenda :) | 15:03 |
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| mattmceuen | re: interface between airshipctl and kustomize, I know Alan had been working to get a patchset in for that before the holidays, and I'm not sure where that landed | 15:04 |
| uzumaki | treasuremap 2.0 thing, I added it, it got answered last week, so, we can skip that | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | ok awesome - thanks uzumaki | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | I think we covered the Treasuremap 2.0 general topic last well - any other discussion you'd like to have on that uzumaki? | 15:04 |
| uzumaki | Not yet, so we're good | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | ok cool | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Image and Userdata parameters are missing in baremetal.yaml in airshipctl under spec Baremetalhost | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Image and Userdata parameters are missing in baremetal.yaml in airshipctl under spec Baremetalhost (Meeting topic: airship)" | 15:05 | |
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| mattmceuen | Are those missing fields due to old/incomplete generated code in airshipctl, do you know? Or, are they not in the upstream Metal3 spec yet? | 15:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | diwakar thyagaraj proposed airship/porthole master: Mysqlclient UC Python and Ubuntu upgrade. https://review.opendev.org/696184 | 15:07 |
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| mattmceuen | Hmm I'm also not finding a baremetal.yaml in airshipctl, so I'm unclear on this topic. Is anyone familiar with it? | 15:08 |
| howell | mattmceuen: the file is testdata. It's located at pkg/document/testdata/baremetal.yaml | 15:09 |
| howell | I'm not too familiar with the issue though.. | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | alright, let's hold off on that till the owner is here and we can talk through it | 15:11 |
| * ildikov is lurking :) | 15:11 | |
| mattmceuen | #topic what is equivalent to openshift-machine-api | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "what is equivalent to openshift-machine-api (Meeting topic: airship)" | 15:11 | |
| mattmceuen | o/ ildikov :) | 15:11 |
| ildikov | mattmceuen: hi :) | 15:11 |
| mattmceuen | Do we have the owner of this openshift-machine-api topic here this week? | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | " what is equivalent to openshift-machine-api (https://github.com/metal3-io/baremetal-operator/blob/master/examples/worker-0.yaml#L27) in metal3" | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | the question seems to be around the last line in there, defining the namespace | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | I think next time we carry over a bunch of topics to the next meeting, we can start by having the topic owners signal they are here and still want to discuss -- lesson learned :) | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | alright, moving on to new topics this week: | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Revisit use of root user in Airship containers - Pegleg, Spyglass, others? Can these be changed to either generic "airship" project or to project specific user? | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Revisit use of root user in Airship containers - Pegleg, Spyglass, others? Can these be changed to either generic "airship" project or to project specific user? (Meeting topic: airship)" | 15:15 | |
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| mattmceuen | alexanderhughes, is this one your shade of lavender? | 15:15 |
| alexanderhughes | lavender is the best color | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 15:16 |
| alexanderhughes | yes, so I was looking at projects again after reading some articles over the break. I'd like to change containers to run as a non-root user in Airship where possible | 15:16 |
| portdirect | sounds good to me | 15:16 |
| alexanderhughes | currently Pegleg and Spyglass are root. I don't see a reason for this so I'd like to change them if there aren't any concerns from community. in doing so if we plan to continue accepting documents in Pegleg container from Promenade should we consider changing both Promenade and Pegleg to a generic "airship" user to avoid chowns? | 15:16 |
| alexanderhughes | or let operators use chowns between containers as has been in the case up til this point | 15:17 |
| portdirect | id advocate for a generic user | 15:17 |
| portdirect | this is what was done in the loci project to address similar concerns | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | I don't have any concerns with that - sounds good to me | 15:17 |
| michael-beaver | I like the idea of them having a generic 'airship' user | 15:18 |
| portdirect | 42424 is what loci used | 15:18 |
| portdirect | so 42425 sounds good to me ;) | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | lol | 15:18 |
| souradage | Don't most projects currently use the 'nobody' user? | 15:18 |
| portdirect | nobody has some baggage around it | 15:19 |
| portdirect | and where we are, we can make use of a 'real' user | 15:19 |
| portdirect | which makes it much easier to set up ownership etc | 15:19 |
| souradage | Right. Then I think an airship user would also be a good thing to move towards | 15:20 |
| alexanderhughes | I'm all for "airship" user across all the projects | 15:20 |
| portdirect | if we made airship use `nobody` then everyone who uses `nobody` would have the same rights for files | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | I would still think they should be overridable though | 15:20 |
| alexanderhughes | this went to design call a few weeks ago, and we couldn't get consensus | 15:20 |
| howell | +1 for "airship" | 15:20 |
| portdirect | mattmceuen: ++ this is how we did it for loci | 15:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged airship/porthole master: Enable runtime-default Apparmor Profile to Openstack-Utility Container. https://review.opendev.org/696186 | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | And I don't think we should add dependencies between containers | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | I.e., don't want one container to assume another container is running as a particular user | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | w.r.t your promenade + pegleg concern alexanderhughes- can you please dive into that issue? | 15:21 |
| alexanderhughes | the end goal is that pegleg is the access point for promenade commands - render, generate bundle, gen certs etc. but we haven't finished that transition yet | 15:21 |
| alexanderhughes | as a result operators are rendering in promenade/collecting. then sending those documents to pegleg, but they have different owners "root" "promenade" and causes issues without chown | 15:22 |
| alexanderhughes | in the case of pegleg->promenade in particular the files pegleg generates for promenade to consume can't be used because of the 640 permissions on root owned files | 15:22 |
| alexanderhughes | standardizing the users or chown documents shared between containers are only paths forward I see until the transition to all pegleg is complete | 15:23 |
| mattmceuen | I am less concerned about the promenade CLI portion (since it's deprecated) | 15:23 |
| openstackgerrit | diwakar thyagaraj proposed airship/porthole master: Enable runtime-default Apparmor Profile to Calicoctl Utility Container. https://review.opendev.org/694793 | 15:23 |
| mattmceuen | The promenade API portion is already configurable, so we should avoid tying it down to a uid along with the CLI: https://opendev.org/airship/promenade/src/branch/master/charts/promenade/values.yaml#L180 | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | how does that sound? | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | i.e., I'm ok with locking down the prom CLI to a specific UID (temporarily, till transitioned to pegleg), provided we keep the API uid configurable | 15:26 |
| alexanderhughes | sure | 15:26 |
| mattmceuen | ok awesome | 15:26 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Moving issues from Jira to Github | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Moving issues from Jira to Github (Meeting topic: airship)" | 15:27 | |
| mattmceuen | uzumaki I think this one is yours | 15:27 |
| uzumaki | yup, we had a discussion last week about the issue movement. Any updates from the WC/TC? | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | From my perspective, no progress since last week, when everyone seemed to be pretty positive around a change to github issues | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | The holiday got in the way last week sorry :) I will send out a note on the ML to make sure there aren't any concerns | 15:28 |
| uzumaki | well, how do we plan to pursue it, the actual movement itself? | 15:28 |
| uzumaki | mattmceuen, that's alright, no worries | 15:28 |
| mattmceuen | I guess we have three choices | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | 1. manual copy and paste to move items | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | 2. "drain" jira and finish out work there while adding new work in github issues | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | 3. put work into an automated job to migrate stuff into github | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | any preference from your side uzumaki? | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Prateek Dodda proposed airship/porthole master: [WIP] https://review.opendev.org/697113 | 15:30 |
| uzumaki | My concern is, if people are joining in the community, during the migration, is there a way to make it easier for them to understand what is what? | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | +1 to acknowledge that's a very good concern | 15:31 |
| uzumaki | Otherwise, if it's only for us, the current members, any option out of 2/3 is fine (1 is too much work) | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | I suspect 3 may also be too much work ;-) | 15:32 |
| uzumaki | haha | 15:32 |
| mattmceuen | Rodolfo has a weekly meeting on JIra scope tracking, I think it would be a good place to pitch the "drain" idea | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | There may be a good "cut" point | 15:33 |
| uzumaki | Escalate this, along with this concern to the other WC/TC members, this needs to be thought through | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | i.e., maybe starting with e.g. Airship 2.0 beta, scope moves to github, or something like this | 15:33 |
| uzumaki | mattmceuen, yeah, drain idea seems fine, least work | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | for sure, we have a WC meeting next week, I will bring this up there as well | 15:33 |
| uzumaki | that'd be great! | 15:34 |
| dwalt | o/ | 15:34 |
| mattmceuen | o/ dwalt - just to confirm (since I had to miss it) - you didn't discuss this yesterday, right? | 15:34 |
| dwalt | we did not. As a WC member, it would be really helpful to get input from those already working scope in Jira | 15:35 |
| dwalt | Since we want to cause as little disruption as possible | 15:35 |
| uzumaki | indeed | 15:36 |
| dwalt | as I am catching up, I see you said option 2 or option 3 :) | 15:37 |
| uzumaki | we're open to suggestions! | 15:37 |
| dwalt | We will discuss this next Monday (12/9) then. The meeting is open to anyone to join | 15:37 |
| uzumaki | i'll be there, great! | 15:37 |
| dwalt | great! Thanks uzumaki | 15:37 |
| ildikov | can I ask a dumb question around the decision to use GitHub issues? | 15:37 |
| mattmceuen | sure can ildikov | 15:37 |
| uzumaki | go ahead! | 15:38 |
| dwalt | additionally, the etherpad is here. You can also leave comments if you cannot attend: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Airship/Airship-WC | 15:38 |
| ildikov | if I know correctly you use Git/Gerrit for code development | 15:38 |
| mattmceuen | yup | 15:38 |
| ildikov | so I wonder if it doesn't get confusing to use GitHUb for issues but not for the rest of the flow? | 15:38 |
| srwilkers | ildikov asking the good questions | 15:38 |
| mattmceuen | I think that's a fair point | 15:38 |
| ildikov | I assume you talked this through so if you have meeting logs somewhere for my understanding I can catch up on that as opposed to keep up the meeting on this :) | 15:39 |
| mattmceuen | we would associate the issues with the github mirror of our opendev projects, so it wouldn't be "completely divorced" | 15:39 |
| ildikov | it just looked confusing to me, who's not deeply involved at this point | 15:40 |
| ildikov | that part makes sense, however the mirror is read only | 15:40 |
| srwilkers | it'd be difficult to fight off the urge to open a pull request via github, i'll admit | 15:40 |
| mattmceuen | we've had a couple brief conversations, but haven't gotten deep - I'll capture some of the potential gotchas/concerns in an etherpad, along with some feedback from the kubecon meetup | 15:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Samuel Pilla proposed airship/promenade master: Upgrade Tiller version for k8s 1.16 https://review.opendev.org/693395 | 15:40 |
| mattmceuen | o/ srwilkers | 15:40 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:40 |
| ildikov | and my memories from OpenStack is that people get confused by the mirror even when you don't use any GitHub feature besides browsing the code | 15:40 |
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| mattmceuen | I admit it's not my favorite approach. However the pros/cons need to be weighed against overwhelming developer preference (so far) to using github issues for tracking scope, seems to hit a sweet spot of ease of use + functionality | 15:42 |
| ildikov | mattmceuen: I'm happy to add this to a pro/con etherpad if/when you create one | 15:42 |
| mattmceuen | I think in the wash it'll be "what's the least annoying of N evils" :) | 15:42 |
| mattmceuen | so pros/cons lists will help with that | 15:42 |
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| ildikov | lol, I'm with you on the least annoying note | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | thanks much ildikov - will share w/ you as soon as I get it up, and will post it to the ML | 15:43 |
| ildikov | I brought this up more from forward looking perspective and with new comers in mind | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Samuel Pilla proposed airship/treasuremap master: Upgrade Tiller version for k8s 1.16 https://review.opendev.org/694604 | 15:43 |
| ildikov | mattmceuen: sounds great, thank you! | 15:43 |
| ildikov | I'll keep an eye on the ML | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Roundtable | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roundtable (Meeting topic: airship)" | 15:44 | |
| mattmceuen | That's it as far as the agenda goes, team - any additional topics, feedback, or requests for code review? | 15:44 |
| uzumaki | nope, looking forward to the pros/cons list on the ML | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | awesome - I will prioritize that to the top of my overdue todo items :D | 15:45 |
| uzumaki | I'm sure you will :D | 15:46 |
| mattmceuen | hoping to catch up before xmas holidays | 15:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Samuel Pilla proposed airship/treasuremap master: Upgrade Tiller version for k8s 1.16 https://review.opendev.org/694604 | 15:46 |
| mattmceuen | on that note, then - I'll give us 14 minutes back! | 15:46 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks everyone for your time and the great discussion | 15:46 |
| mattmceuen | have a great week, and see you here in IRC/ML in the meantime | 15:46 |
| alexanderhughes | thanks all :) | 15:46 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://opendev.org/airship || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Airship || https://review.opendev.org/#/q/projects:airship+status:open+NOT+label:Verified%253D-1+NOT+label:Workflow%253D-1+NOT+message:DNM+NOT+message:WIP" | 15:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 3 15:47:01 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2019/airship.2019-12-03-14.59.html | 15:47 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2019/airship.2019-12-03-14.59.txt | 15:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/airship/2019/airship.2019-12-03-14.59.log.html | 15:47 |
| uzumaki | \o | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged airship/airship-in-a-bottle master: [Fix] resolv.conf fix for ubuntu 18.04 https://review.opendev.org/693461 | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/porthole master: Etcdctl utility container image python and Ubuntu upgrades https://review.opendev.org/696075 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Ahmad Mahmoudi proposed airship/airship-in-a-bottle master: Ubuntu 18.04 https://review.opendev.org/694412 | 16:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | diwakar thyagaraj proposed airship/porthole master: Enable runtime-default Apparmor Profile to Calicoctl Utility Container. https://review.opendev.org/694793 | 18:59 |
| openstackgerrit | diwakar thyagaraj proposed airship/porthole master: Openstack UC python upgrade. https://review.opendev.org/696408 | 19:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Pilla proposed airship/treasuremap master: Changes supporting k8s 1.16 https://review.opendev.org/688632 | 19:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kaspars Skels proposed airship/treasuremap master: Changes supporting k8s 1.16 https://review.opendev.org/688632 | 19:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged airship/promenade master: Upgrade Tiller version for k8s 1.16 https://review.opendev.org/693395 | 19:49 |
| openstackgerrit | diwakar thyagaraj proposed airship/porthole master: Enable runtime-default Apparmor Profile to Calicoctl Utility Container. https://review.opendev.org/694793 | 19:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Pilla proposed airship/promenade master: Upgrade Hyperkube version for k8s 1.16 https://review.opendev.org/693726 | 20:24 |
| openstackgerrit | diwakar thyagaraj proposed airship/porthole master: Enable runtime-default Apparmor Profile to Calicoctl Utility Container. https://review.opendev.org/694793 | 20:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Prateek Dodda proposed airship/porthole master: Compute UC python and Ubuntu upgrade. https://review.opendev.org/696919 | 20:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | diwakar thyagaraj proposed airship/porthole master: Enable runtime-default Apparmor Profile to Calicoctl Utility Container. https://review.opendev.org/694793 | 21:15 |
| openstackgerrit | diwakar thyagaraj proposed airship/porthole master: Enable runtime-default Apparmor Profile to Calicoctl Utility Container. https://review.opendev.org/694793 | 21:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | diwakar thyagaraj proposed airship/porthole master: Enable runtime-default Apparmor Profile to Calicoctl Utility Container. https://review.opendev.org/694793 | 21:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: [WIP] Add save location option to generate certs https://review.opendev.org/697190 | 21:59 |
| openstackgerrit | diwakar thyagaraj proposed airship/porthole master: Enable runtime-default Apparmor Profile to Calicoctl Utility Container. https://review.opendev.org/694793 | 22:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Pittwood proposed airship/pegleg master: Add save location option to generate certs https://review.opendev.org/697190 | 22:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rahul Khiyani proposed airship/porthole master: Ceph-utility python and Ubuntu upgrade. https://review.opendev.org/696813 | 22:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Raven proposed airship/pegleg master: Modify config to warn about line length. Rename jobs for consistency. https://review.opendev.org/693227 | 22:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Prateek Dodda proposed airship/porthole master: Openstack UC python upgrade. https://review.opendev.org/696408 | 22:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Prateek Dodda proposed airship/porthole master: Openstack UC python upgrade. https://review.opendev.org/696408 | 22:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Prateek Dodda proposed airship/porthole master: Openstack UC python upgrade. https://review.opendev.org/696408 | 23:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Prateek Dodda proposed airship/porthole master: Openstack UC python upgrade. https://review.opendev.org/696408 | 23:33 |
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