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| openstackgerrit | Sean Roberts proposed stackforge/akanda-rug: follow semver release versioning servers change https://review.openstack.org/197787 | 00:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Roberts proposed stackforge/akanda-rug: follow semver release versioning servers change https://review.openstack.org/197787 | 00:29 |
| adam_g | sarob, would it be more accurate to count 2015.1 as our 1.0? | 00:31 |
| adam_g | 1.0.0, rather | 00:31 |
| sarob | i was thinking that at first | 00:31 |
| sarob | but since akanda has been around for awhile | 00:32 |
| sarob | and neutron is at 7.0.0 | 00:32 |
| sarob | it follows to follow neutron version for now | 00:32 |
| sarob | what do you think? | 00:32 |
| adam_g | on one hand it seems strange to appear like we've got 7 major releases under our belt, esp having had announcements go out celebrating our '1.0' in vancouver | 00:35 |
| sarob | hmm | 00:35 |
| adam_g | on the other, having akanda-neutron plugin versioned differently than the server its meant to pluginto could be confusing | 00:35 |
| adam_g | i wonder how the other neutron-* plugins are handling it | 00:35 |
| sarob | ill peek | 00:36 |
| adam_g | the neutron-* things look like they've moved to 7.0.0 | 00:37 |
| sarob | sub proj are following 7 | 00:37 |
| adam_g | the plugins tho, are still on the old scheme | 00:37 |
| adam_g | stackforge/networking-* | 00:37 |
| sarob | i think 7 is good enough | 00:39 |
| sarob | this naming numbering stuff makes my head hurt | 00:40 |
| adam_g | not that it really matters for us yet, but what is the plan for upgrades with the new scheme? | 00:41 |
| adam_g | 2015.1.0 > 7.0.0 | 00:41 |
| sarob | how else? | 00:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Roberts proposed stackforge/akanda-neutron: follow semver release versioning servers change https://review.openstack.org/197789 | 00:43 |
| adam_g | how do you upgrade from 2015.1.0 to 7.0.0? thats a downgrade | 00:43 |
| adam_g | i assume it could just be punted to distros to use epochs in their packaging | 00:43 |
| sarob | i believe that is the plan | 00:45 |
| sarob | punted sounds like the correct word | 00:45 |
| sarob | from my reading of the meeting logs | 00:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Roberts proposed stackforge/akanda-horizon: follow semver release versioning servers change https://review.openstack.org/197790 | 00:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Roberts proposed stackforge/akanda-appliance: follow semver release versioning servers change https://review.openstack.org/197791 | 00:49 |
| sarob | arg | 00:51 |
| sarob | i think i need to clear the value | 00:52 |
| sarob | then change it to 7 | 00:52 |
| sarob | it doesnt like going backwards | 00:52 |
| sarob | hmm, neutron didnt have the same problem patching | 00:54 |
| sarob | adam_g: is this worth trying to figure out? | 00:56 |
| adam_g | sarob, if we're going to change versioning, ya | 00:56 |
| sarob | adam_g: well, i mean patching removing the version and then reapplying | 00:58 |
| sarob | adam_g: rather than why neutron was able to without pep8 failure | 00:58 |
| adam_g | why would that help? | 00:58 |
| sarob | adam_g: wouldnt removing the version | 00:59 |
| adam_g | weird, i cant reproduce that failure locally | 00:59 |
| adam_g | i dont know enough about pbr to know why thats borking | 00:59 |
| adam_g | it might be because there is no 7.0.0x tag | 01:00 |
| adam_g | but dont quote me on that | 01:00 |
| adam_g | (or go pushing tags just yet :) | 01:00 |
| sarob | hmm, let me chk the timing | 01:00 |
| adam_g | oh, i got the error here now | 01:01 |
| adam_g | after a pbr upgrade | 01:01 |
| adam_g | sarob, yeah, creating a 7.0.0b1 tag locally fixes it | 01:02 |
| sarob | right on | 01:02 |
| adam_g | we never tagged the liberty1 milestone | 01:02 |
| sarob | i was getting around to it | 01:02 |
| adam_g | if we decide on 7.0.0, maybe tag current repos HEAD to 7.0.0b1 | 01:03 |
| adam_g | and then those versioning changes should merge | 01:03 |
| adam_g | assuming thats the actual issue, still kinda a guess | 01:03 |
| sarob | im double checking the other projects | 01:09 |
| adam_g | i think its just a tag issue, but ya double check before pushing anything and we may want to get consensus among the group (ie, +A on your patches) before actually pushing the tags | 01:11 |
| adam_g | i gotta run now | 01:11 |
| adam_g | baby's official past-due so maybe ill talk to you tomorrow. :) | 01:12 |
| adam_g | maybe not | 01:12 |
| sarob | roger that good buddy | 01:12 |
| sarob | im taking tomorrow off | 01:12 |
| sarob | ill be in on friday | 01:12 |
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| adam_g | ryanpetrello, would you guys be okay with the file-based debug modes going away in favor of rug-ctl debug modes being persistent? | 18:52 |
| ryanpetrello | that's fine with me | 18:56 |
| ryanpetrello | as I recall, the file-based thing was just a cheap way to get persistence | 18:56 |
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| drwahl | ya, i don't think file-based debug modes going away would be a big deal | 18:57 |
| * fzylogic agrees | 18:58 | |
| fzylogic | the only problem I see is that some sort of persistence would be nice | 18:58 |
| adam_g | cool | 19:01 |
| adam_g | what if that meant akanda requiring a database? :) | 19:01 |
| fzylogic | shouldn’t be a problem with something like berkeleydb or sqlite | 19:02 |
| fzylogic | no reason to use anything more powerful than that | 19:03 |
| adam_g | fzylogic, well this in the context of scaling out to multiple rug processes across nodes | 19:03 |
| fzylogic | right | 19:03 |
| adam_g | so, mysql/postgres/etc | 19:04 |
| fzylogic | but a router wouldn’t move around between rug processes very much, right? | 19:04 |
| fzylogic | ideally, never (except in the case of a node being removed from the pool?) | 19:04 |
| adam_g | ya | 19:04 |
| adam_g | er, right | 19:04 |
| adam_g | rugs maintaining their own sqlite dbs for this is not much different then them using the filesystem | 19:05 |
| fzylogic | no, it’s really just the user interface that changes | 19:06 |
| fzylogic | if you use a generic db interface, the actual database used could just be an implementation detail too | 19:06 |
| adam_g | right, it would be (oslo.db) | 19:07 |
| fzylogic | default to sqlite and let the user change that to something shared if they need it | 19:07 |
| fzylogic | or heck, default to a noop | 19:07 |
| fzylogic | and just don’t persist unless the user asks for it explicitly | 19:07 |
| ryanpetrello | we still on for our meeting today adam_g markmcclain ? | 19:15 |
| adam_g | im down to hang | 19:15 |
| adam_g | sarobs out | 19:15 |
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