Wednesday, 2016-07-13

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larsksdmsimard: o/16:03
dmsimardlarsks: hey welcome back sir16:04
dmsimardhow was your vacation16:04
larsksIt was awesome! Kids were super travellers, despite the 20+ hours we spent travelling home :).16:04
dmsimardcool :D16:05
dmsimardI didn't have the time to do much at all while you were out, just a few maintenance commits https://github.com/openstack/ara/commits/master16:06
dmsimardI was focused on RDO things16:06
larsksNo worries :).  I was just now taking a look at what had changed...16:07
dmsimardflepied has shown interest in ara, he's flying down to Montreal next week and I'll chat with him about it16:08
larsksWho is flepied?16:09
dmsimardRCIP/Enovance engineering manager, he's involved in the production chain work and he leads, amongst other things, the software factory work16:10
dmsimardtl;dr, streamlining and aligning the RDO vs OSP workflows16:11
dmsimardlarsks: over the vacation I realized I'm not super convinced about the hosts16:31
larsks?16:31
dmsimardbut it's more about the feature of having a list of top level list of hosts hosts and drilling down from there (like before)16:31
dmsimardwhen we moved hosts to be unique per-playbook we lost that feature and it made me a bit sad16:32
dmsimardbut there are no mechanisms in ansible to have a host unique16:32
larsksThat's right.16:32
dmsimardas opposed to, say, puppet where a puppetmaster will sign a certificate for a host and that host is unique and thus you can have http://puppetboard.openstack.org/ which has unique hosts and their history is also unique16:33
larsks"webserver" could in fact refer to many different (and unrelated!) hosts.16:33
dmsimardyeah16:33
dmsimardI don't know how to solve that16:33
dmsimardI thought about weird hacks that I wouldn't be happy with16:33
dmsimardlike generating a hash of hostname and ip pairs or things like that16:33
larsksYeah, that all sounds gross and prone to causing surprises.16:34
dmsimardwe can keep it the way it is and think of something later16:34
dmsimardthough we do need to clean up the remainder of the host things we left that are now dead code16:34
dmsimardalso, the top navbar and html anchors in the new UI are sort of annoying16:36
dmsimardwe need to push the UI further down and that requires the href to be sort of bigger than it really is and it has some weird ui effects16:36
dmsimardI noticed it more when I tried to put anchor links on the dashboard cards at the top16:37
dmsimardbut you can see it here for example: http://46.231.133.111/file/40dc82c1-d9fd-481c-bc3c-322b7b3e37ce/16:37
dmsimardwhen you mouse over the different line numbers from top to bottom, you'll see the links are sometimes higher up16:37
dmsimardso sometimes you click on a line but it really clicks another line16:38
dmsimardso maybe I'll get rid of the top navbar which is mostly useless anyway16:38
larsksI think I see what you mean about the links. Hadn't noticed that before...16:41
dmsimardlarsks: I talked with the patternfly guys and filed an issue https://github.com/patternfly/patternfly/issues/35217:01
dmsimarddotplus: ever got around to trying things out ?18:25
dotplusdmsimard: not yet. still trying to get jobs that run molecule to test our ansible roles to be _able_ to pass (not getting them all to pass!) on our jenkins infra. Then I'll hopefully be able to justify looking at recordkeeping for the ansible runs.18:28
dmsimarddotplus: hey I've never heard of molecule before, it looks cool, I'll check it out. Thanks for sharing.18:29
* dotplus is one of the authors18:39
dmsimarddotplus: looks like openstack-ansible folks are interested in using it18:39
dmsimardthere's https://github.com/metacloud/molecule/pull/226 amongst other things18:39
dotplusyeah, I'm very excited about that PR. I wrote initial openstack support for molecule using the vagrant-openstack-provider, but this is a *much* better implementation, using shade directly18:44
dmsimardI'll have to look into it some day18:45
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