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| sulo | o/ | 10:13 |
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| thomasem | o/ | 13:18 |
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| jimbaker | o/ | 14:53 |
| jimbaker | sulo, so i have this working for commands: craton host-get --format=json 8 ; cat baz.json | craton host-set 8 x=47 y=99 | 14:55 |
| sulo | nice ! | 14:55 |
| jimbaker | i know we discusses variables-for-host, but i chose host-get and host-set, since this was closer to current verbs | 14:55 |
| jimbaker | or rather commands | 14:55 |
| jimbaker | subcommands | 14:56 |
| jimbaker | something like that :) | 14:56 |
| sulo | why not variables-get and variables-set, host-get will imply getting a host ? | 14:56 |
| jimbaker | sulo, more because we already have subcommands like host-show, cell-show, etc | 14:57 |
| jimbaker | but host-get-vars (OR host-get-variables), host-set-vars, cell-get-vars, ... seems reasonable to me | 14:58 |
| sulo | ok but it imples host property .. | 14:58 |
| sulo | yeah .. i think there needs to be vars somewhere ? | 14:58 |
| jimbaker | sulo, but i should be able to set vars with most entities | 14:58 |
| jimbaker | we haven't completed this, but the intent is there | 14:59 |
| jimbaker | vars can be mixed in with any craton base entity - and for most, it makes sense | 14:59 |
| sulo | yeah, if i understood it correctly, sigmavirus wants <resource>-get/set-vars | 14:59 |
| jimbaker | yeah, that's what it should be | 15:00 |
| jimbaker | meeting | 15:00 |
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| thomasem | Alright, so it's just tomorrow's meeting (1700 UTC) that I have a conflict with. That's a recurring appointment for me, so I'll be moving it to another time for future weeks. | 16:14 |
| thomasem | I'm assuming that demo will wind up on YouTube, according to the docs? | 16:15 |
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| jimbaker | thomasem, we haven't been doing that recently. but i expect we will resume in feb. maybe we can do so by tomorro | 16:49 |
| jimbaker | thomasem, regardless - whatever we do on tues, we will be doing in some revised form for the demo thurs | 16:49 |
| thomasem | jimbaker: okay, no worries, then! I should make the Thursday one. :) | 16:49 |
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| sigmavirus | thomasem: yeah, dont' rearrange your life around us | 17:38 |
| thomasem | Oh, it's no biggie. This project is becoming my main focus now, so, I'd like to be available for meetings. If it were a hassle at all, I'd consider alternatives. :) | 17:39 |
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| jimbaker | right, we need to make sure these meetings work for thomasem going forward | 17:41 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: correct | 17:42 |
| sigmavirus | there's few enough of us that we can reschedule | 17:42 |
| sigmavirus | thomasem: what is your timezone? | 17:42 |
| thomasem | I appreciate the consideration. Thank you. | 17:42 |
| thomasem | CST | 17:42 |
| sigmavirus | thomasem: oh, same as me. | 17:42 |
| thomasem | Neat! | 17:42 |
| sigmavirus | I was thinking you might be in Europe | 17:43 |
| thomasem | Nope. I'm in Austin, TX. :) | 17:43 |
| jimbaker | yeah, we don't have to re-arrange if at all. i think it's thomasem who is mostly needing to get his meetings in order :) | 17:43 |
| thomasem | Lol | 17:44 |
| jimbaker | but we have some flex if needed. the basics are: we meet 1500 UTC every monday (currently 9a CT). tues and thurs we have timezone-based meetings, which are 11a CT | 17:44 |
| jimbaker | this took some work to converge on, because sulo and git-harry are in UK; and sigmavirus has other clandestine stuff going on | 17:45 |
| jimbaker | ;) | 17:45 |
| sigmavirus | clandestine? | 17:46 |
| thomasem | Well, this may be moot, because I think I got bit by timezones. Lemme double-check. | 17:46 |
| jimbaker | just joking | 17:46 |
| sigmavirus | I'm an open source folk person, I open my calendar to all | 17:46 |
| thomasem | jimbaker: sigmavirus: false alarm. I can make them all already. | 17:47 |
| thomasem | Outlook's timezones were being a bit funky. :) | 17:47 |
| jimbaker | thomasem, got it | 17:47 |
| thomasem | Which is really to say PEBCAK, I didn't realize it was UTC-2 instead of UTC that I had set. | 17:48 |
| jimbaker | for a while, i tried to get around this by converting outlook to use UTC | 17:48 |
| thomasem | Lol | 17:48 |
| jimbaker | my outlook is still messed up after i reverted to MT | 17:48 |
| thomasem | I just set the reminder to UTC, but... yeah. | 17:48 |
| sigmavirus | thomasem: don't use outlook ;) | 17:48 |
| thomasem | Oh man | 17:48 |
| thomasem | LOL | 17:48 |
| sigmavirus | thomasem: seriously, use GMail for openstack everything | 17:49 |
| sigmavirus | It's the best | 17:49 |
| thomasem | Trust me... I don't enjoy it. | 17:49 |
| jimbaker | yeah, my consolidated calendar (on google) is good | 17:49 |
| sigmavirus | GMail + Google Calendar can import ics | 17:49 |
| sigmavirus | And OpenStack publishes ics files for everything | 17:49 |
| sigmavirus | And they just work | 17:49 |
| sigmavirus | Also exchange does bad things to threaded conversations on the mailing list. GMail has 0 problems with t hem | 17:49 |
| thomasem | Handy. I think it's more because I like to keep it juxtaposed with my own work calendar in Outlook. | 17:49 |
| jimbaker | i'm very surprised that in this day, outlook still hasn't figured out time zones | 17:49 |
| jimbaker | but it most certainly has not | 17:50 |
| sigmavirus | or plain text email, or proper reply quoting ... or how not to mess with email headers | 17:50 |
| jimbaker | yeah, the basics | 17:50 |
| sigmavirus | reply quoting in outlook/owa is so bad | 17:50 |
| thomasem | I agree... it's a bit garbage. | 17:51 |
| sigmavirus | I tried, so hard, to use our work emails for OpenStack's mailing lists, but it was a losing battle | 17:51 |
| sigmavirus | Especially once I was forced to upgrade from outlook 2010 | 17:51 |
| thomasem | :( | 17:51 |
| thomasem | I can't say I've had too bad a time. | 17:52 |
| thomasem | Ideal, absolutely not, but it works well enough and the convenience of it along-side my work calendar is a big deal for me. | 17:52 |
| jimbaker | so i checked the meeting invites, which i will forward to thomasem | 17:53 |
| thomasem | Thanks jimbaker | 17:53 |
| jimbaker | the mon meeting is correct with respect to working with UTC | 17:55 |
| jimbaker | the tues meeting is also keeping its timezone (in this case MT) | 17:56 |
| thomasem | Wunderbar! | 17:56 |
| jimbaker | but it looks like the thurs meeting is shifting around, so apparently it's on UTC as well | 17:56 |
| jimbaker | which we agreed to not do :) | 17:56 |
| jimbaker | so i will go and revise at some point | 17:56 |
| jimbaker | anyway. time zones. they usually don't bother us unless we are scheduling; or during DST shifts, and we get the split between US, UK, and say australia | 17:57 |
| jimbaker | :) | 17:57 |
| jimbaker | my favorite was that sulo, gus (then a racker, still in sydney), bernardo, and i would each propose meetings. given this was all starting up with the new to-be-named "craton" project last march, it was time zone madness | 17:59 |
| thomasem | Hahahaha | 17:59 |
| thomasem | Timezones are a nightmare. I did monitoring/reporting ~4 years ago when I started at Rackspace, and the inconsistencies in timezones between data sources and such made one want to pull their hair out. | 18:00 |
| thomasem | What's funny is if you go and look at the timezone map and how off from the sun cycles they actually are, you start to wonder what purpose they really even serve anymore. | 18:01 |
| thomasem | At least that was my reaction | 18:02 |
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| sigmavirus | thomasem: the timezone industry clearly needs disruption | 21:14 |
| thomasem | I'm proposing a Blueprint to move from the all-in-one Docker container [1] to docker-compose with separate services spun up for your dev environment (may reduce the how-to to one command :). Which sprint should I suggest it for? Not sure I understand the difference between "FOSDEM 2017 EDA devroom" and "pcb monthly code sprint". | 21:15 |
| thomasem | sigmavirus: hahahaha, I can't tell if you're poking fun. :P | 21:15 |
| thomasem | 1: https://github.com/openstack/craton/blob/master/Dockerfile | 21:16 |
| sigmavirus | thomasem: uh, don't propose it to any sprint | 21:16 |
| sigmavirus | we haven't been doing anything with milestones/sprints on LP | 21:16 |
| thomasem | Oh okay, great. Thanks! | 21:16 |
| sigmavirus | thomasem: I would never ever make fun of this great industry of our | 21:16 |
| sigmavirus | *ours | 21:16 |
| thomasem | Oh, I'm sure. :) | 21:16 |
| sigmavirus | If there was a baby rattle industry to disrupt. We'd disrupt it | 21:16 |
| thomasem | Lol | 21:21 |
| thomasem | Alright, BP registered. Thanks for the halps. | 21:21 |
| thomasem | Rusty on this Launchpad stuff. :) | 21:21 |
| sulo | jimbaker: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426931/ | 21:26 |
| sulo | this will be needed for the cli patch i am about to push through | 21:26 |
| sulo | that reminds me is your variables patch done for tomorrow | 21:37 |
| sulo | ill need it by the time i am online tomorrow .. around 11 AM UTC to set things up | 21:37 |
| sulo | farid: o/ ... didnt realise farid was in here | 21:47 |
| farid | hi sulo ! :) | 21:47 |
| farid | \o | 21:47 |
| anonymike | Hey guys this is Michael Porras (emp was taken) | 21:48 |
| farid | anonymike: very sneaky :P | 21:48 |
| anonymike | lol | 21:48 |
| sulo | hey anonymike | 21:48 |
| sulo | anonymike: you starting today ? | 21:49 |
| anonymike | i wish | 21:49 |
| sulo | :( | 21:49 |
| anonymike | trying my hardest to get over | 21:49 |
| anonymike | still set for March | 21:49 |
| sulo | i gotta get used to your new nick now | 21:51 |
| sulo | anonymike: i was already typing emp :) | 21:51 |
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| emp | oh hey | 21:52 |
| sulo | ohhi emp | 21:52 |
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| anonymike | yeah emp is taken | 21:53 |
| anonymike | I'm really looking forward to the demo | 21:53 |
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| thomasem | Wunderbar, working basic dev env: https://gist.github.com/thomasem/cdc34db0517acb5ff0aa840ac8a0d53b | 22:20 |
| antonym | anonymike: how about empanada? | 22:20 |
| anonymike | antonym: Permanent Fridays? I'll check it out | 22:21 |
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