Tuesday, 2020-03-17

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csatariHei, let's do an irc meeting.14:26
csatari#startmeeting weekly_edge_computing_group_cal14:26
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 17 14:26:20 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is csatari. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:26
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csatari#topic Roll Call14:26
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csatari#info Gergely Csatari14:26
ildikov#info Ildiko Vancsa14:26
csatariWhat topics should we cover today?14:27
ildikovLooks like it'll be a small group meeting :)14:28
ildikovthese are the regular items: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Edge_Computing_Group#Next_meeting:_Tuesday_.28March_18.29.2C_7am_PST_.2F_1400_UTC14:28
csatariSmallest group.14:28
ildikov:)14:28
csatariCool.14:28
ildikovwe had some good chats about the reference architectures14:28
ildikovrecently14:28
ildikovI was wondering if it would make sense to draw up reference model diagrams?14:29
ildikovthinking along the lines of what we want from an architecture in general and then how it can be realized14:29
ildikovand whether it would make it easier to get to the container discussions that way as well?14:29
csatariDrawing is always good.14:30
ildikov:)14:31
csatariDo you think about something totally different from the current architecture diagrams?14:31
ildikovno I meant the generalized version of the current diagrams first14:31
csatariLike adding functionalities to the different "edge locations"?14:32
ildikovkind of identifying what functionality each site would need in the centralized as well as the distributed case14:32
csatariYes, I think that would make sense.14:32
ildikovthen we have the architectures that show an example of how to build that system14:32
ildikovand the architecture diagrams can be extended by components that support containers14:33
ildikovwhile the model diagrams may already contain the functionality on high level14:34
ildikovI'm just thinking that it would be nice to have a few diagrams that's not tied to existing projects/solutions14:34
ildikov*that are not14:34
csatariYes I agree.14:35
ildikovI guess I should look for some online diagram making tool thingy that supports collaborating on these :)14:36
csatariOkey, now I started to Google for collaborative chart drawing.14:39
ildikovduring the whitepaper chats we also talked a bit more about storage so it looks like we may have some info around that to use14:39
ildikov:)14:39
ildikovI'm not sure if it exists unless we want to draw diagrams in a Google doc which I don't like as it's often painful and not accessible everywhere14:39
ildikovcsatari: https://creately.com14:42
ildikovit says the basic plan is free, need to find out what that means14:42
csatarihttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ug7Mfua0/14:43
csatariThe 3 collaborator limit might be a problem.14:43
ildikovyeah :/14:43
csatariMaybe https://www.lucidchart.com/pages/landing/diagram-tool14:44
ildikovit says single user14:47
csatariyep.14:47
ildikovso I guess it's not for collaboration?14:47
ildikovhttps://online.visual-paradigm.com/diagrams/14:48
csatariCan be.14:50
csatariThis looks good.14:50
ildikovthe last one?14:50
csatariYes14:50
ildikovI also found this: https://miro.com/l/remote-collaboration?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%7B_utmcampaign%7D&utm_term=+collaborating%20+online&utm_content=426018196680&xuid=EAIaIQobChMI35TE_-Ch6AIVi4eyCh1gqAIJEAAYASAAEgKtivD_BwE&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI35TE_-Ch6AIVi4eyCh1gqAIJEAAYASAAEgKtivD_BwE14:51
ildikovnah, this seems to have a lot of limitations too14:53
ildikovthe visual paradigm one says it'll add a watermark, but I think it should be fine unless it's very disturbing14:54
ildikovI can always re-draw the diagrams we agree on in ppt or smth like14:54
csatariI'm not sure how can we collaborate with it.14:55
csatariI could not find any menus to share.14:55
csatarihttps://online.visual-paradigm.com/w/lqlimsns/diagrams/#proj=0&type=BlankDiagram14:55
csatariWe need more research on this ;)14:57
ildikovI think so too :)14:58
ildikovmaybe you can invite people once you signed up?14:58
ildikovI'll also ask around if someone knows something14:58
csatariOkey14:59
ildikovbut we have a lan for the diagrams at least :)14:59
csatariYes ;)15:00
csatariI need to drop off soon. Anything else we wanted to cover?15:00
ildikovwe can talk more about the diagrams in details next week15:01
ildikovand containers15:01
csatariArgeeed.15:01
csatari*215:01
ildikovand if the CNTT group finalizes plans we can talk about collaboration with them too15:01
csatari*315:01
ildikovI will drop a mail to the mailing list if I find a tool in the meantime15:02
csatariCool, thanks.15:02
* ildikov thanks15:02
csatari#endmeeting15:02
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