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| zaneb | SpamapS: yeah, but I'm gonna scout out some bridge abutments just in case | 00:00 |
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| asalkeld | ha | 00:06 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config/+bug/1258351 - can you add your use cases please? | 00:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1258351 in os-apply-config "Allow meta templates which can generate moustache-derived filenames" [Wishlist,In progress] | 00:11 |
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| SpamapS | randallburt: hey before I go digging for this.. can I ask a resourcegroup for an attribute that is common to all of its members? I have a use case for that (load balancer) ... wondering if there is a better way too. | 00:13 |
| randallburt | SpamapS: yes | 00:13 |
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| SpamapS | randallburt: got an example? | 00:13 |
| randallburt | get_attr: [ group, attr_name] | 00:13 |
| SpamapS | So it just kind of proxies them through? | 00:13 |
| randallburt | yup | 00:13 |
| * SpamapS reads code | 00:14 | |
| randallburt | retuns a list instead of a single value, though | 00:14 |
| SpamapS | that's fine we have Fn::Join right? | 00:14 |
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| SpamapS | or whatever HOT's equivalent is. | 00:14 |
| randallburt | I think so SpamapS. The CFN one *might* work in any case | 00:15 |
| SpamapS | and actually it would be badass if it came in as a list in the metadata json. | 00:15 |
| randallburt | until we scope resolve_runtime_data to the specific Template class | 00:15 |
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| randallburt | SpamapS: bug it with an example and I'd be happy to do it. | 00:15 |
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| randallburt | what's a marmite toasty? | 00:16 |
| SpamapS | something australians make us eat so we won't come back to their country | 00:17 |
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| SpamapS | for us we call it a "Big Mac" | 00:18 |
| randallburt | oh, yeah. googled. it. bon apatite, asalkeld ;) | 00:18 |
| randallburt | what is it with the "yeasty spreadable goo"? | 00:18 |
| asalkeld | snigger | 00:18 |
| asalkeld | it's called yum | 00:18 |
| SpamapS | hrm | 00:18 |
| SpamapS | randallburt: resourcegroup is still not what I need because I need to be able to add/remove specific members. HRM. | 00:20 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: you just got distracted didn't you:) | 00:20 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I had to let go of the nova thing.. leaving in 10 minutes | 00:20 |
| randallburt | SpamapS: hrm. what would that look like, exactly? you mean create the downstream resource yourself and add it to a group in some template? | 00:21 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: so just browsing pending reviews and pondering | 00:21 |
| SpamapS | randallburt: I mean if I have 6 "things" and thing 3 needs replacing.. resourcegroup makes that complicated. | 00:21 |
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| randallburt | SpamapS: ah, ok. Hrm. a bit tricky without api access to some sort of resource-specific "action" (which tbh sounds like a good idea anyway) | 00:23 |
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| lifeless | randallburt: huh? | 00:23 |
| lifeless | Surely we just upload a new template, right? | 00:23 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: right, but how do I say "replace group[2]" in a template. :p | 00:24 |
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| randallburt | SpamapS: I suppose I could add something like an action-target property that's ephemeral, but sounds hacky to me | 00:25 |
| SpamapS | perhaps a subset of abandon is the right way to go | 00:25 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: how do you define group[2] in the first place ? | 00:25 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: that's just the thing. You don't. | 00:25 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: ok, so why do we need replace group[2] ? | 00:26 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: you say "Group: {Properties: {Size: 5}}" | 00:26 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: because group[2] is compromised/dead/stinky | 00:26 |
| SpamapS | actually | 00:27 |
| SpamapS | converge can handle this | 00:27 |
| SpamapS | delete it manually | 00:27 |
| SpamapS | converge | 00:27 |
| randallburt | oh, yeah. | 00:27 |
| SpamapS | But I do worry about when we do the update from 5->4 | 00:27 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: right, that was where I was going | 00:27 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: STNITH | 00:27 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: to shrink, random one chosen, and the graceful pattern we designed at the summit kicks in. | 00:28 |
| randallburt | well, the gist is that under "normal" circumstances, the resources in the group aren't any different from one another, so it generally doesn't matter which one gets "culled" in that case | 00:28 |
| SpamapS | I've been thinking about possibly having the rolling update piece tie into a "I'm currently not replacable" condition flag that can be used to make sure we don't degrade clusters. | 00:29 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I think the graceful thing handles that implicitly | 00:29 |
| SpamapS | yeah it does | 00:29 |
| SpamapS | ok, -> kids | 00:29 |
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| sdake_ | asalkeld any chance you filed that bug for the missing features in python-heatclinet/ | 00:53 |
| asalkeld | no, i thought it's a part of the heatclient rebase or the other one | 00:54 |
| sdake_ | no needs to be a fresh bug, we aren't doing another rebase | 00:54 |
| sdake_ | the other one is the openstack-heat component | 00:55 |
| sdake_ | needs to be against python-heatclient | 00:55 |
| asalkeld | i see | 00:55 |
| sdake_ | did the review hit the python-heatclient repo yet? | 00:56 |
| asalkeld | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61624/ | 00:57 |
| asalkeld | no | 00:57 |
| sdake_ | reviewing | 00:57 |
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| sdake_ | looks good | 01:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow choice in how SignalResponder user id is stored. https://review.openstack.org/61902 | 01:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Service authorize stack user from provided stack https://review.openstack.org/58875 | 01:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: OS::Nova::Server support for software config https://review.openstack.org/58880 | 01:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: REST API for software config/deployment https://review.openstack.org/58878 | 01:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Resource types for software config/deployment https://review.openstack.org/58879 | 01:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Database model for software config/deployment https://review.openstack.org/58876 | 01:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: RPC service for software config/deployment https://review.openstack.org/58877 | 01:04 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61276 | 01:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add support for software config resources https://review.openstack.org/58885 | 01:07 |
| asalkeld | I could change that to only have the sphinx change | 01:07 |
| asalkeld | get it in, then jpeelers https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61855/ | 01:07 |
| asalkeld | then the hacking change | 01:07 |
| asalkeld | dam mess | 01:08 |
| stevebaker | right, so sphinx change will unwedge us, then the hacking upgrade should be merged with jpeeler's pep8 fix | 01:09 |
| asalkeld | yeah | 01:10 |
| asalkeld | making series now | 01:10 |
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| asalkeld | actually it's not needed | 01:13 |
| asalkeld | only jpeeler's is needed | 01:14 |
| openstackgerrit | DennyZhang proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix get_column_num problem in heat-keystone-setup get_column_num function search the second line of command output, to get the field number for a specific field. https://review.openstack.org/61904 | 01:16 |
| openstackgerrit | DennyZhang proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix get_column_num problem in heat-keystone-setup https://review.openstack.org/61904 | 01:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | DennyZhang proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix get_column_num problem in heat-keystone-setup https://review.openstack.org/61904 | 01:31 |
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| stevebaker | lifeless: done, or rather I've documented my anti-use-case | 01:38 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: thanks | 01:52 |
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| asalkeld | egh, re2 | 02:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Added session_persistence property to VIP https://review.openstack.org/61074 | 06:59 |
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| skraynev_ | Morning all . | 07:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Added session_persistence property to VIP https://review.openstack.org/61074 | 07:24 |
| skraynev_ | hello, zaneb | 07:26 |
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| sergmelikyan | Guys, about this change: https://review.openstack.org/61074 - should I update this change with a new scheme? | 07:30 |
| sergmelikyan | AFAIK, patches with new scheme not yet merged, but looks right to approve them first | 07:31 |
| skraynev_ | sergmelikyan: IMO will be better if we wait until scheme refactoring will be merged | 07:33 |
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| therve | 'morning | 07:43 |
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| shardy | morning | 08:23 |
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| Alienyyg | morning | 08:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add validation for an existence of a resource type https://review.openstack.org/60038 | 08:58 |
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| therve | shardy, Do you know why we do a Resource.validate when validating the stack (before creation) and then another properties.validate before creating the resource itself? | 09:00 |
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| liang | therve, I guess,, because when the first time validate is called runtime_data has not been resolved | 09:09 |
| liang | or more precisely can not be resolved at that time | 09:10 |
| liang | For example, a reference to other resource | 09:11 |
| liang | I mean a reference to an attribute of another resource. | 09:12 |
| therve | Okay maybe | 09:13 |
| liang | therve, ^ | 09:13 |
| therve | We could call Resource.validate, then | 09:14 |
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| liang | yeah, that should work as well | 09:16 |
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| shardy | therve: Yeah, as liang says, we need to validate the properties values before we create each resource, which you can't do before the dependent resources have been created | 09:25 |
| therve | Yeah that makes sense | 09:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Added session_persistence property to VIP https://review.openstack.org/61074 | 10:11 |
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| sergmelikyan | therve, I had rewrote test for validate but I am not sure that result is what you are talked about. Can you look? | 10:16 |
| therve | Sure | 10:17 |
| therve | Yeah that looks much better | 10:17 |
| sergmelikyan | therve, Thx! | 10:19 |
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| sergmelikyan | therve, what do you think about merging "Convert Neutron resources to new Schema format" and update "Added session_persistence property to VIP" to the new scheme? | 10:41 |
| therve | Merging? | 10:42 |
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| therve | One will land before the other. The other will need to fix his patch, that's about it :) | 10:43 |
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| Alienyyg | hi guys, I have a zombie stack ,and can not be deleted ,it status keep " delete in progress" , this just happen after I reboot the controller, how can I delete it ? | 11:03 |
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| pshchelo | hi, can somebody point me to specs on environment files? what types/schemes of URI are valid there? only relative URIs or full also? | 15:26 |
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| shardy | pshchelo: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/environment.html#format | 15:29 |
| shardy | pshchelo: IIRC the paths have to be absolute not relative | 15:30 |
| pshchelo | shardy: thanks! | 15:30 |
| shardy | or at least they did last time I tested | 15:30 |
| pshchelo | being thinking about bug/1233914 | 15:31 |
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| pshchelo | shardy: it's not clear - are only local files currently allowed in the env, or we should also support URLs also? | 15:33 |
| pshchelo | because examples only use local files | 15:34 |
| shardy | pshchelo: I think that inside the environment you can use URLs or file:/// | 15:34 |
| shardy | pshchelo: That bug is about enabling a --environment-url option I think | 15:35 |
| pshchelo | shardy: ok, will dance from that | 15:35 |
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| shardy | so the environment itself can be specified via URL like --template-url | 15:35 |
| pshchelo | I see, will do | 15:36 |
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| jasond | is "reverify no bug" okay to use? if not, how would i go about identifying the bug to reverify? | 16:10 |
| shardy | jasond: In general, no, and there was talk of disabling it completely | 16:10 |
| shardy | jasond: I normally just google the error from the console log | 16:10 |
| shardy | 90% of times, you get an exsting bug to reference | 16:11 |
| jasond | shardy: which error? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59851/ | 16:11 |
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| shardy | jasond: That actually looks like some ci server is not there or something, it's broken infra rather than a failing test AFAICS | 16:15 |
| jasond | shardy: okay, i'll ask in #openstack-infra. thanks! | 16:15 |
| shardy | jasond: Yeah, probably the best plan | 16:16 |
| therve | I don't understand, the build is green? | 16:17 |
| shardy | therve: before the most recent recheck | 16:17 |
| therve | shardy, Yeah and the recheck refers to a bug? | 16:17 |
| shardy | Evidently jasond didn't think that the correct one to reverify against? | 16:19 |
| shardy | It does look similar tho | 16:19 |
| jasond | jeremy stanley from #openstack-infra just reverified a different bug | 16:20 |
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| therve | I get a giant blob of text when testr gets an import error | 16:47 |
| therve | Did anyone else observe that? It makes it hard to debug | 16:47 |
| shardy | everything about testr makes stuff hard to debug :\ | 16:48 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: That's the price we pay for 4x the speed. ;) | 16:57 |
| SpamapS | "You can go fast, but if you crash, you die 4 times." | 16:57 |
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| therve | SpamapS, We should have a better development story though | 16:58 |
| shardy | Yeah, I'd love to figure out a less painful wy to debug tests, considering it's what I spend most time doing | 16:59 |
| SpamapS | therve: sounds like a bug for the testr folk :) | 16:59 |
| SpamapS | shardy: what do you do right now? | 16:59 |
| SpamapS | because when I need to, i just switch to python -m testtools.run test.name | 16:59 |
| therve | SpamapS, Is it possible though? The pdb bug has been opened for a while | 16:59 |
| SpamapS | well I actually use runtest which is an alias I added.. :-P | 17:00 |
| shardy | SpamapS: Yeah, I do that, or nosetests -s if the test doesn't use testscenarios | 17:00 |
| SpamapS | therve: I believe that the workarounds are decent enough that nobody from testr cares much. | 17:00 |
| therve | Maybe I should use testtools too then | 17:00 |
| therve | (and add support for filenames to testtools) | 17:00 |
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| therve | SpamapS, The workarounds? Like using testtools directly, or is there something else? | 17:01 |
| shardy | but with testtools.run I sometimes see some weird results due to imports happening from my site-packages not the local tree | 17:01 |
| shardy | or at least that was happening in python-heatclient | 17:01 |
| SpamapS | shardy: .tox/py27/bin/python ftw | 17:01 |
| therve | Yeah that sounds weird | 17:01 |
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| therve | Man don't say the workarounds are decent enough and not give them :p | 17:04 |
| SpamapS | therve: oh sorry ^^ shardy gave them | 17:05 |
| SpamapS | therve: the workaround is to run tests with a different runner | 17:05 |
| therve | SpamapS, right, but now we rely on testscenarios | 17:05 |
| therve | Which is only supported by testtools presumably? | 17:05 |
| SpamapS | right and so you don't like converting /'s to .'s ? :) | 17:06 |
| shardy | Yeah, means you can't use notestests and have to use testtools | 17:06 |
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| SpamapS | I don't know why nosetests is a thing | 17:06 |
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| shardy | nosetests even | 17:06 |
| * SpamapS would be fine if it would DIAF | 17:06 | |
| therve | Heh | 17:06 |
| shardy | SpamapS: If the other options worked I'd agree | 17:06 |
| therve | Yeah exactly | 17:07 |
| therve | SpamapS, I didn't get the joke about converting /'s btw :) | 17:07 |
| shardy | The nice thing about nosetests is it's simple and it doesn't have any magic hiding stuff from you | 17:07 |
| SpamapS | I've only been doing python for 3 years. testr kicks ass compared to everything else I've used in that short time, and its advantages far outweigh a few niggles about printed output and/or files being hard to run tests in. | 17:08 |
| SpamapS | therve: oh I'm trying to figure out why you don't like testtools.run | 17:08 |
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| therve | SpamapS, It doesn't take filename args, for example | 17:08 |
| SpamapS | shardy: it isn't intentionally hiding things. It is making use of subunit, and expecting you to handle things like displaying stderr/stdout | 17:09 |
| SpamapS | therve: right, that was my joke | 17:09 |
| SpamapS | therve: if you convert / to . that is 90% of the filename problem solved. :) | 17:09 |
| therve | SpamapS, tell that to bash completion, though | 17:09 |
| SpamapS | meh I say | 17:10 |
| SpamapS | niggles | 17:10 |
| SpamapS | you run it... and it uses all your CPU's. ALL OF THEM. | 17:10 |
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| therve | Yeah that seems to be testr opinion on nice features :) | 17:10 |
| jasond` | therve: write a bash script that accepts a path and then converts it to the testtools format and passes it to testtools | 17:10 |
| SpamapS | therve: have you tried to fix anything in testr? I mean, lifeless isn't exactly a jerk.. I'm sure he'd take your patch. :) | 17:11 |
| therve | testtools has a really dry output, too | 17:11 |
| SpamapS | jasond`: I actually did that. :) | 17:11 |
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| SpamapS | for a while I had an iwatch thing that would run all the tests for any file I wrote to in a dir. | 17:11 |
| therve | SpamapS, Well the pdb thing is just how it is, AFAICT | 17:11 |
| SpamapS | therve: it could be made to work. | 17:12 |
| therve | I didn't care so much before we were using testscenarios | 17:12 |
| therve | I guess I can contribute to testtools, though | 17:12 |
| SpamapS | therve: it is hard, and a trade-off that is acceptible I think. | 17:12 |
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| therve | SpamapS, I'm okay with it, just I need something that works, and there is no great solutions right now | 17:13 |
| SpamapS | Probably would be easier if pdb had the ability to attach to a different terminal. | 17:13 |
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| jasond` | therve: did you figure out why testr outputted a blob? | 17:26 |
| therve | jasond`, Unfortunately no | 17:27 |
| therve | jasond`, I managed to figured out *why* I got a blob, which wasted enough time :) | 17:27 |
| jasond` | oh ok. well now i have a blob :( | 17:28 |
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| therve | jasond`, I mean the blob is because of an import error in one of your files, if that wasn't clear | 17:36 |
| jasond` | therve: i think it was happening because of an update to requirements.txt (python-six) | 17:36 |
| jasond` | i was getting: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'add_metaclass' | 17:36 |
| therve | Yeah I remember fixing one of those problems by recreating the tox env | 17:39 |
| therve | But here it was in my code | 17:39 |
| jasond` | i guess testr does that when it gets unexpected (non test results) output | 17:40 |
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| therve | jasond`, It's some interactions between testr and testtools. It doesn't do the same thing with testtools 0.9.33 | 17:46 |
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