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| lifeless | stevebaker: I'm looking at using a scaling group with a cfn template; where are docs on that ? | 00:44 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: (basically I want to run 5 identical things) | 00:44 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: you could consider using http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Heat::ResourceGroup | 00:45 |
| lifeless | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/tripleo-ci/tree/heat-templates/testenv-workers.yaml | 00:45 |
| lifeless | is the template I'm converting | 00:45 |
| lifeless | from one-thing to N | 00:45 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: that confuses me | 01:01 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: it looks like it wants a string, rather than yaml, for the thing it's making into a group ?! | 01:01 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: resource_def is a map, it should take yaml | 01:02 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: so whats missing perhaps is 'how do I transform something into this' | 01:02 |
| stevebaker | ah, there is no metadata property | 01:02 |
| stevebaker | because technically it doesn't exist in HOT | 01:03 |
| stevebaker | because software config will replace that | 01:03 |
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| lifeless | is it 'take your existing key, rename it 'resource_def' and add a sibling Count, parent Properties and parent sibling type OS::Heat::ResourceGroup ? | 01:03 |
| lifeless | so concretely, in the url I linked | 01:04 |
| lifeless | I want to take testenv0 and get 10 of them. | 01:04 |
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| lifeless | also why is 'type' for the resource definition not Type ? | 01:05 |
| lifeless | thats inconsistent | 01:05 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: I think your only option currently is a LaunchConfiguration and a AWS::AutoScaling::AutoScalingGroup with a fixed MinSize/MaxSize (back to ec2 Instance semantics :/ ) | 01:05 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: under 'YAML Syntax' on that doc page | 01:06 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: hot spec is lower-case throughout | 01:06 |
| lifeless | ditto properties.. | 01:06 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: but this lists HOT / YAML / JSON | 01:06 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: please don't tell me I need to think about this stuff as folk mix and match | 01:06 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: yes, HOT is lower case, YAML is just cfn in yaml syntax. The YAML one can remain undocumented when HOT is usable | 01:07 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: cause that would be truely painful, not to mention liable to generate bugs | 01:07 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: ok, so docs on LaunchConfiguration and AWS::AutoScaling::AutoScalingGroup? Or is it 'go read amazon docs' ? | 01:08 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: what about OS::Heat::InstanceGroup ? | 01:08 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: yes, here we go https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/cfn/F17/InstanceGroup.template | 01:09 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: so how do you permit the launched instances in a InstanceGroup access ? | 01:38 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: e.g. | 01:39 |
| lifeless | AccessPolicy: | 01:39 |
| lifeless | Properties: | 01:39 |
| lifeless | AllowedResources: | 01:39 |
| lifeless | - testenv0 | 01:39 |
| lifeless | becomes ??? | 01:39 |
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| stevebaker | hmm | 01:42 |
| stevebaker | That appears to be not possible. but | 01:46 |
| stevebaker | you could do the tripleo thing of splitting the metadata polling LaunchConfiguration from the actual compute | 01:47 |
| stevebaker | so do this: | 01:47 |
| stevebaker | a launchconfig with the Metadata ala notcomputeConfig | 01:48 |
| stevebaker | an access policy which can access ^ | 01:48 |
| lifeless | so in the tripleo thing | 01:48 |
| lifeless | we still specify the instance: | 01:49 |
| lifeless | AllowedResources: | 01:49 |
| lifeless | - notCompute0 | 01:49 |
| lifeless | - notCompute0Config | 01:49 |
| stevebaker | hmm no, that won't work. the key is for os-collect-config polling | 01:49 |
| lifeless | is there an AWS equivalent to Type: OS::Heat::AccessPolicy that I could use? | 01:50 |
| lifeless | failing that, I'll use merge.py, but I'm trying really hard to use heat directly :) | 01:51 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: no, we haven't implemented enough of AWS::IAM to specify more flexible policies | 01:52 |
| lifeless | AIUI without the accesspolicy we can't read the metadata from the machine | 01:52 |
| lifeless | right ? | 01:52 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: I could explain all the reasons why this wouldn't happen with our new autoscaling+software config, but that is no help really | 01:52 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: heh, thats fine - I know eventually we'll converge | 01:53 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: I figure we need to give you a clear example of what we need fully featured as design input | 01:53 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Purge remaining heat_keystoneclient v2 code https://review.openstack.org/67534 | 01:53 |
| lifeless | does that break using keystone v2 api ? | 01:54 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: correct. can't read metadata without accesspolicy | 01:54 |
| * lifeless isn't sure that we have v3 enabled | 01:54 | |
| lifeless | I guess we'll find out | 01:54 |
| stevebaker | v2 was already broken. now its cremated | 01:55 |
| lifeless | ok, cool | 01:55 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/commit/tripleo_heat_merge?id=c071255ad6bf1fb2c9db6799e96b509295f53fc9 | 01:55 |
| lifeless | might interest you | 01:55 |
| lifeless | its how we're doing scaling atm :( | 01:55 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: yeah, yuck. | 01:56 |
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| stevebaker | lifeless: if you have a way of finding out about hp and keystone v3 that would be useful | 01:57 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: what do you want to know? | 01:57 |
| stevebaker | maybe the resource for implementing a keystone v2 shim will come from hp insteald of rax ;) | 01:58 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: if you're not running keystone v3 api then you won't be running heat standalone against hpcloud until either 1. you enable v3 or 2. somebody writes a v2 auth shim for heat | 01:58 |
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| lifeless | ah | 02:02 |
| lifeless | so cody was looking at tha | 02:02 |
| lifeless | t | 02:02 |
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| larsks | So...trying to notify a waitcondition, heat is silent but keystone is throwing an error ("AttributeError: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'get'"). Does this sound familiar to anyone? | 02:24 |
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| larsks | To the mailing list, batman! | 02:30 |
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| stevebaker | larsks: if you're running latest heat you'll likely need latest python-keystoneclient and keystone too | 02:59 |
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| zaneb | larsks: just fyi, questions like that are supposed to be posted to the openstack ML, not openstack-dev | 03:32 |
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| sdake | evening folks | 03:45 |
| sdake | i'm off to tv land ttyl :) | 03:45 |
| zaneb | o/ | 03:45 |
| stevebaker | later | 03:45 |
| zaneb | sdake: btw I may be working weird hours tomorrow | 03:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Map the NotFound exception to HTTPNotFound https://review.openstack.org/70288 | 03:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Raise the default max header to accommodate large tokens https://review.openstack.org/70289 | 03:50 |
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| stevebaker | The bug that ^ fixes could cause all manner of havoc | 03:51 |
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| larsks | zaneb: Thanks, but I will probably continue to post things that generate tracebacks to -dev. | 04:15 |
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| skraynev | Morning ;) | 06:53 |
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| skraynev | hello, aweiteka. Could you give more details about your problem. I have tested this approach using template https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60078/8/tempest/scenario/orchestration/test_loadbalancer.yaml | 07:26 |
| skraynev | aweiteka: and vip have gotten floating ip without any problem. | 07:26 |
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| shardy | morning | 07:48 |
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| shardy | Hi sdake | 13:21 |
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| pafuent | stevebaker: Are you around? | 13:24 |
| shardy | pafuent: unlikely, it's 2.30am where he is | 13:24 |
| pafuent | shardy: Thanks, I did't know that | 13:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Enable hacking H233 rule https://review.openstack.org/68534 | 13:50 |
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| sdake | pafuent what help did you need? | 14:00 |
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| sdake | pafuent maybe me or shardy could help? | 14:00 |
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| pafuent | sdake: It's related to a comment in a bp. He asked if I wanted to implement the rest of it. I already wrote a comment to answer him. Thanks anyway! :) | 14:12 |
| therve | aweiteka, Did you manage to fix your issue? | 14:13 |
| aweiteka | therve, yes, then hit another :) | 14:14 |
| therve | Ah :) | 14:14 |
| therve | The bumpy road to success | 14:14 |
| aweiteka | therve, indeed. | 14:14 |
| therve | aweiteka, Still related to lbaas? | 14:15 |
| aweiteka | therve, yeah. what do you think of this? https://github.com/aweiteka/heat-templates/blob/3broker/openshift-enterprise/heat/neutron/OpenShift-3B-3N-LB-neutron.yaml#L368 | 14:15 |
| aweiteka | therve, adding members to the pool fails. the broker1_instance is created just before the failure. timing issue? | 14:15 |
| aweiteka | i wasn't sure if dependson was supported. it's not in the heat/hot docs but referenced in aws | 14:16 |
| therve | You shouldn't need a dependson | 14:17 |
| therve | Are you using Havana? | 14:17 |
| aweiteka | therve, ok. yes, havana | 14:17 |
| therve | Hum... | 14:19 |
| therve | aweiteka, Do you have the full traceback? | 14:19 |
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| aweiteka | therve, no, my environment is rebuilding but i can reproduce easy enough soon. | 14:20 |
| aweiteka | therve, i've been looking at /var/log/heat/heat-engine.log. not much detail there. what are you looking for? | 14:20 |
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| therve | aweiteka, I don't know. The message you put in comments looks weird | 14:21 |
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| therve | aweiteka, fwiw http://paste.openstack.org/show/62240/ ought to work | 14:22 |
| aweiteka | therve, yeah, 404 error is unexpected. that's from heat-engine.log. | 14:22 |
| aweiteka | therve, agreed. i'll give another go at it. thx | 14:23 |
| therve | No problem | 14:23 |
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| sdake | pafuent cool | 14:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Validation for Outputs template section https://review.openstack.org/70358 | 14:54 |
| skraynev | shardy, therve: Could you please look this patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70358/)? I have tried to fix bug (link in commit message), but I think, that my solution is not good. Would you give some advices or comments, how do you think it should be done (if it possible), please. | 14:58 |
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| therve | Yeah I don't know | 15:02 |
| therve | I would focus on the other part of the bug, which is to display available information | 15:03 |
| therve | validation on resource attribute is unlikely to be super easy | 15:03 |
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| shardy | skraynev_away: I'm not sure either tbh, tspatzier or zaneb may have some suggestions re the implementation | 15:05 |
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| pscheie | If the properties of a SecurityGroup change (in the heat template), does running stack-update cause any instance using that SecurityGroup to be respun? | 15:07 |
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| shardy | pscheie: Yes | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add a nova keypair constraint https://review.openstack.org/70319 | 15:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement custom constraints https://review.openstack.org/70318 | 15:19 |
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| pscheie | shardy, tx. | 15:21 |
| therve | Pfiu | 15:21 |
| pscheie | I just went and tested it and indeed it does. Explains a mystery from yesterday. | 15:21 |
| shardy | pscheie: The SecurityGroup resource currently doesn't support updates, so we always replace it (which triggers replacement of the instance resource(s) | 15:22 |
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| pscheie | shardy, does "currently doesn't support" imply that it might/will in the future? | 15:23 |
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| shardy | pscheie: I've not looked into it myself, but nova has a "secgroup-update" so it may be possible | 15:24 |
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| pshchelo | how can I drive the stack out of UPDATE_FAILED status? | 15:33 |
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| shardy | pshchelo: atm, you can't: | 15:37 |
| shardy | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/update-failure-recovery | 15:37 |
| pshchelo | shardy: ok, tanks, delete, rinse, repeat that is | 15:38 |
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| larsks | shardy: pshchelo's question reminds me of something I ran into yesterday: is there any way to delete a stack that is in CREATE_IN_PROGRESS? | 15:42 |
| shardy | larsks: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63002/ | 15:42 |
| pshchelo | larsks: nope, as far as I get it not for now | 15:42 |
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| pshchelo | yes, that ^^ | 15:43 |
| shardy | larsks: We used to allow it, but the multi-engine locking now prohibits it | 15:43 |
| larsks | shardy: Awesome. I had an extra "0" on a wait condition that was never going to get signaled... | 15:43 |
| larsks | Fortunately, restarting heat let me delete it. | 15:43 |
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| shardy | hopefully we'll get that fix landed soon then you'll be able to cancel the in-progress action and delete | 15:43 |
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| pshchelo | I'm also waiting for this patch, so that I'll implement cancel of running update | 15:44 |
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| pshchelo | have a "working" version that stumbles on multi-engine | 15:44 |
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| larsks | Given the existing template syntax, is it essentially impossible to detect mis-spelled intrinsic functions? | 15:54 |
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| skraynev | shardy, therve: ok. thx | 15:56 |
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| zaneb | unfortunately I have to go offline for a bit... I will be back later today | 16:41 |
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| kfox1111 | whats the best way to get an common private key (ssl, ssh, etc) to all members of a load-balancer pool in a secure way? | 19:22 |
| pscheie | If a stack update fails, it seems to prevent/prohibit any future updates. | 19:22 |
| pscheie | Any way to fix this? | 19:22 |
| kfox1111 | not that I know of. I know they are working on making that work better. | 19:25 |
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| pscheie | Nuts. I was updating a stack and forgot to include a flavor in the parameters. | 19:29 |
| pscheie | Adding it in is trivial, but now I can't ever make any further changes to this stack because once it gets to a UPDATE_FAILED state, it won't allow any more updates. | 19:30 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. :/ I've been really reluctant to use update ever. | 19:30 |
| kfox1111 | I'm hoping icehouse will be much better in that regurad. | 19:30 |
| pscheie | We use updates a lot. | 19:30 |
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| pscheie | Icehouse isn't due until April, is it? | 19:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Rhys Oxenham proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Fix minor text spacing issue in Heat CLI usage menu https://review.openstack.org/70295 | 19:31 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. mid april. | 19:31 |
| kfox1111 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/update-failure-recovery | 19:32 |
| kfox1111 | Might watch that blueprint. | 19:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move X-Auth-Url logic to auth_url middleware https://review.openstack.org/68800 | 21:35 |
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| zaneb | January 2014 | 21:43 |
| zaneb | Suspend/Resume is still broken on Fedora | 21:44 |
| zaneb | That Is All. | 21:44 |
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| pscheie | zaneb, is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/update-failure-recovery likely to be included in icehouse | 21:53 |
| pscheie | ? | 21:54 |
| zaneb | regrettably I have to say it's not likely, no :( | 21:54 |
| pscheie | Oh, that's unfortunate. Why so? | 21:55 |
| zaneb | not enough hours in the day | 21:55 |
| pscheie | Understandable. | 21:55 |
| zaneb | I haven't started on it yet, and as you can see from that graph there's a whole bunch of stuff to be done first | 21:56 |
| zaneb | and I'm struggling to even make much of a dent in that | 21:56 |
| pscheie | Is there any sort of workaround in the meantime? I seem to recall someone mentioning making a change in the DB, but I forget the details (if I even knew them). | 21:56 |
| pscheie | Something about going in an manually changing the status of the stack. | 21:57 |
| zaneb | I guess you could try that | 21:57 |
| zaneb | it very much depends on the situation how well it would work | 21:57 |
| pscheie | Well, I've got a stack where a resource specified a parameter and I'd forgotten to include the parameter. | 21:58 |
| pscheie | A pretty simple mistake. | 21:59 |
| pscheie | What do other folks do? Just delete and respin the whole stack? | 21:59 |
| zaneb | that's the non-workaround method, yes | 22:01 |
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| pscheie | Yeah, won't really work in our case, unfortunately. | 22:04 |
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| kfox1111 | will the unmanage/remanage resource thing work in icehouse? It might be a way to manually workaround the update failed case too. | 23:01 |
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| kfox1111 | hmm... I'm not seeing blueprints for that anymore. | 23:11 |
| kfox1111 | I was pretty sure there was a blueprint for removing a managed resource from a heat template without having it delete the resource. | 23:13 |
| kfox1111 | oh. No, I'm just blind. adopt-stack and abandon-stack. | 23:14 |
| kfox1111 | Looks like both are done. | 23:15 |
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| zaneb | kfox1111: that might work | 23:58 |
| zaneb | the problem is that after a failed update you end up keeping the _new_ template and some mixture of old and new resources | 23:58 |
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| zaneb | that said, rollback ought to work. I recommend enabling that when you update | 23:59 |
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