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| asalkeld | hi andersonvom | 00:51 |
| asalkeld | (was just brewing some coffee:) | 00:51 |
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| sdake | SpamapS sorry something came up | 01:02 |
| sdake | qpid active/active handles split brain by using hardware fencing mechanisms | 01:02 |
| SpamapS | sdake: ok thats what I figured :-P | 01:03 |
| sdake | In a perfect world it would just use virtual synchrony to sort out the delta, but they didn't implement merging properly | 01:03 |
| SpamapS | sdake: can you have active/active/active with qpid? | 01:03 |
| sdake | and its *way* too late to do it now :) | 01:03 |
| sdake | I believe so but I am not certain | 01:03 |
| sdake | all messages should be replicated to every broker, but whether they actually do that properly I am unclear on | 01:04 |
| SpamapS | sdake: mmk.. we were just looking at how to handle things _without_ hardware fencing | 01:04 |
| sdake | ya hardware fencing sucks | 01:05 |
| sdake | I never liked it | 01:05 |
| sdake | its super hacky | 01:05 |
| sdake | better to just merge the deviation | 01:05 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: would you like to be in the heat security team? essentially triaging any security bugs. Currently its me, shardy_afk and $racker | 01:05 |
| sdake | but merging a deviant state is more difficult then it sounds :) | 01:05 |
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| sdake | I get the impression the qpid usptream cats are instead focusing on active/passive failover | 01:06 |
| sdake | The thing about active/active, is to be done properly, you have to act on a message once it is agreed ordered in the system | 01:07 |
| sdake | this occurs on delivery not on transmission | 01:07 |
| sdake | so the performance is not ideal if the application has lots of waiting for responses | 01:07 |
| sdake | the proper way to write an agreed order app is to rely on ordering to handle synchronization rather then acking | 01:07 |
| sdake | again, qpid doesn't do this | 01:07 |
| sdake | I haven't even told you 95% of what I think of qpid :) | 01:08 |
| SpamapS | :) | 01:08 |
| SpamapS | I think Rabbit is less sophisticated still | 01:08 |
| sdake | never evaled it | 01:08 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: I'm currently trying to shed some responsibilities as I'm gaining them too fast. I don't think I can commit to that. | 01:08 |
| sdake | I am not hot on rabbit mainly because it brings in a huge erlang runtime | 01:09 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: ok, thats fine | 01:09 |
| SpamapS | sdake: similar problems, they just mirror all state changes in the underlying mnesia storage. | 01:09 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: and well done on saying no. more people should do that ;) | 01:09 |
| sdake | using storage for distributed state machines is terrible | 01:09 |
| sdake | I prefer the openstack model, which is no state machine :) | 01:10 |
| sdake | synchronizing state machines is hugely expensive, better just not to do the synchronization and make your system independent scalable blocks | 01:10 |
| SpamapS | sdake: you need _some_ sync state. The idea is to minimize it to those things that actually require it. | 01:10 |
| sdake | synchronized state machines were top tech in the 90s, but in 2014 that tech is 20 years old :) | 01:11 |
| SpamapS | sdake: Galera syncs at the MySQL transaction level. It works fairly well, but it would kill performance if we put _EVERYTHING_ in the db. | 01:11 |
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| sdake | iirc Galera implemented totem for their HA | 01:12 |
| sdake | I am pretty sure I'm the only cat who has ever implemented totem correctly :) | 01:12 |
| sdake | it was almost as hard as raising kids | 01:12 |
| SpamapS | sdake: hah, yeah. | 01:15 |
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| stevebaker | aaaand heat-slow tests are all failing with the same neutron error | 01:55 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: thoughts on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-incubator-rationalise-ui | 02:23 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: particularly "For paramterising heat template, we should extend heat-client to let us provide a JSON file whose keys are parameters for the heat stack. | 02:23 |
| lifeless | " | 02:23 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: solicited | 02:23 |
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| stevebaker | lifeless: that is already supported in the environment file | 02:24 |
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| stevebaker | lifeless: except it is yaml, so you can even document it | 02:24 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: ok, nice, we should use it then. | 02:24 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: oh | 02:25 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: can it do json ? | 02:25 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: I haven't found a jq for yaml yet | 02:25 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: you should totally use it | 02:25 |
| stevebaker | json is valid yaml so that should work | 02:25 |
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| lifeless | cool | 02:27 |
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| lifeless | thanks | 02:27 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: Hi Steve | 03:33 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: hi | 03:34 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: I have been trying to reach you for sometime | 03:34 |
| stevebaker | yes, you keep on being offline when I am awake ;) | 03:35 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: wanted to discuss about the bp on provider network and get your inputs .. shardy suggested me to do that earlier.. | 03:36 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: did you manage to have a look at the bp? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/neutron-net-resource-add-provider-network | 03:36 |
| stevebaker | ok | 03:38 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: so first up, did you realise that you could specify the provider:xxx values using the value_specs property? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Neutron::Net | 03:39 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: yes, I am aware of that.. However, to keep up with the API extension from neutron, I thought its better to implement this.. | 03:41 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: as provider network and tenant network are two different concepts all together.. | 03:42 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: I have put some notes to the bp today to justify that... does that make sense? | 03:43 |
| stevebaker | OK, I see now. | 03:44 |
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| stevebaker | ramishra: I think a new resource is justified, but since you're essentially adding some properties and attributes it might be better to subclass net.Net, reusing as much of the properties schema as possible | 03:45 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: yes..I can definitely do that... | 03:47 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: a generic question, I assume its going to be the standard approach for all extensions involving attributes. Any thoughts of handling all extensions in separate package? | 03:49 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: lets wait until we have so many neutron resource that we need to reorganise | 03:50 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: we appear to be on the threshold ;) | 03:50 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: if it turns out to be really small you can also leave it in net.py . We are not limited to one resource per file | 03:51 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: I have put another BP for LBaaS.. which looks to me as broken | 03:51 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: if it is broken then maybe it should be a bug not a blueprint? | 03:52 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/modify-lbaas-resource | 03:52 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: I've not done much with LBaaS yet, you're best to talk to the authors of that resource | 03:53 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: I thought of it as a blueprint as the resources have changed and its now an extension | 03:54 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: but that blueprint looks like it should be 2 bugs, since I see 2 issues you've identified | 03:55 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Provide region_name to trove-client https://review.openstack.org/69413 | 03:55 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: yes, we can.. However, I thought its some rewrite (API has changed).. hence a blueprint.. I did not find proper unit test for it... | 03:58 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: it was my assumption...so can be completely ignored.. we can crete the bugs for it... | 03:59 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: there is no 'LoadBalancer' resource anymore... it's the 'vip' . I have only given some of the issues.. there are more... | 04:01 |
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| stevebaker | ramishra: one bug per issue would be greatly appreciated | 04:02 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: Will do that... | 04:03 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: thanks steve. | 04:04 |
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| shardy | morning | 08:35 |
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| cmyster | morning | 08:58 |
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| pshchelo | andersonvom: you around? | 10:44 |
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| shardy | pshchelo: I believe andersonvom is US based so probably not | 10:48 |
| pshchelo | shardy: ok, west coast probably.. | 10:49 |
| shardy | Yeah, I'm not really sure, but you're probably best pinging again this afternoon :) | 10:49 |
| pshchelo | thnx :) | 10:50 |
| pshchelo | by the way, can I mix AWS and OS resources in the yaml template? | 10:52 |
| pshchelo | i'd like to use HOT with WaitConditins | 10:52 |
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| shardy | pshchelo: Yes, but please don't use the AWS intrinsic functions | 10:53 |
| pshchelo | ок | 10:53 |
| shardy | that will work at the moment, but we'd like to disable it | 10:53 |
| shardy | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/hot_spec.html#intrinsic-functions | 10:54 |
| shardy | i.e use those :) | 10:54 |
| pshchelo | thanks again, shardy | 10:54 |
| shardy | pshchelo: FYI I've been looking at some native waitcondition resources, but I'm not sure atm if they will make Icehouse | 10:54 |
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| Guest67254 | shardy : I modify my wordpress template and add subnetid every thing is fine , but we get error message The specified reference "SubnetPoolStart" (in Subnet.Properties.allocation_pools[0].start) is incorrect. | 11:01 |
| Guest67254 | "SubnetCidr" : { "Default" : "192.168.7.0/24", "Description" : "Subnet cidr", "Type" : "String", "ConstraintDescription" : "must be a cidr" }, "SubnetPoolStart" : { "Default" : "192.168.7.10", "Description" : "Start of allocation pool for subnet", "Type" : "String", "ConstraintDescription" : "must be a valid IP address" }, "SubnetPoolEnd" : { "Default" : "192. | 11:03 |
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| Guest67254 | "Resources" : { "Network": { "Type": "OS::Neutron::Net", "Properties": { "name": "My Network" } }, "Subnet": { "Type": "OS::Neutron::Subnet", "Properties": { "name": "My Subnet", "network_id": { "Ref" : "Network" }, "ip_version": 4, "cidr": { "Ref" : "SubnetCidr" }, "dns_nameservers": ["8.8.8.8"], "allocation_pools": [ { | 11:03 |
| cmyster | Guest67254: can ypu please use pastbin, I find this hard to read... | 11:04 |
| cmyster | you* | 11:04 |
| skraynev | Guest67254: Could you please use paste.openstack.org | 11:04 |
| Guest67254 | cmyster & skraynev : I paste the content in paste.openstack.org | 11:07 |
| cmyster | care to share the link that it has provided you ? | 11:07 |
| Guest67254 | u can see the content? | 11:07 |
| skraynev | Guest67254: Cool, now please give a link for them | 11:08 |
| cmyster | after you paste something it gives you a link you can share | 11:08 |
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| Guest67254 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/64986/ | 11:08 |
| cmyster | Guest67254: OK, now can you please do the same with the logs ? | 11:09 |
| cmyster | me is trying that template locally | 11:10 |
| cmyster | there was a '/' there somewhere... | 11:10 |
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| Guest67254 | cmyster : the log is http://paste.openstack.org/show/64987/ | 11:12 |
| cmyster | Guest67254: I copied the template locally and heat will fail to validate it... | 11:13 |
| cmyster | what is the command that you were using please ? | 11:13 |
| Guest67254 | heat stack-create wordpress --template-file=wordpress.template --parameters="DBUsername=wp;DBPassword=wp;KeyName=userkey;LinuxDistribution=F17" | 11:14 |
| cmyster | well, as I have said, I copied the template from your link, but heat will fail to validate it. (I'm on version 0.2.6) | 11:16 |
| cmyster | just a guess here, but from your log I see: InvalidTemplateReference: The specified reference "SubnetPoolStart" (in Subnet.Properties.allocation_pools[0].start) is incorrect. | 11:17 |
| cmyster | please try validate-template on it | 11:18 |
| Guest67254 | cmyster : I provide a link with whole template http://paste.openstack.org/show/64988/ | 11:19 |
| Guest67254 | I dont understand try validate-template on it | 11:19 |
| Guest67254 | skraynev : I provide the link if u see then kindly identify the problem | 11:28 |
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| cmyster | Guest67254: run heat template-validate -f <path to template file> | 11:30 |
| cmyster | also you can run heat help template-validate to get more help | 11:30 |
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| cmyster | I just tried the full template... | 11:34 |
| cmyster | looks like the same issue | 11:34 |
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| Guest67254 | cmyster if u have any template of wordpress and mysql then plz provide me , I use neutron network | 11:36 |
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| cmyster | Guest67254: Guest67254 something like this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71459/ | 11:45 |
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| pshchelo | hi all, what should heat template-validate output at success/fail? | 13:20 |
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| Guest42482 | it will always fail | 13:23 |
| cmyster | pshchelo: OK will print it, fail will tell you where it has failed | 13:24 |
| pshchelo | does it work for HOT templates? | 13:24 |
| cmyster | works well here | 13:24 |
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| mgc | hi all, is there a way to assign a security group to an instance (using cloud formation) after the instance has already been started? | 14:50 |
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| SpamapS | mgc: no | 14:54 |
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| SpamapS | mgc: AWS doesn't allow that. Not sure if OpenStack does either. | 14:55 |
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| larsks | SpamapS: openstack lets you assign a security group after an instance has booted. With the CLI tools, that's "nova add-secgroup". | 14:56 |
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| pshchelo | hi all, in which log should I look for trace of incoming waitconditionhandle? | 15:01 |
| SpamapS | larsks: ah, k, then you should be able to just add that to the Heat template. | 15:01 |
| mgc | thanks SpamapS and larsks | 15:01 |
| shardy | pshchelo: api-cfn.log | 15:01 |
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| anderson1om | shardy: good morning! just rebase another patch that was just approved. *sigh* do you have a sec to take a look at it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65576/ | 15:48 |
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| shardy | andersonvom: Hi, and done! | 16:00 |
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| shardy | andersonvom: Did you see my comment about the limit validation? | 16:00 |
| shardy | seems a little strange that we're enforcing limits on something which is not persisted | 16:01 |
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| andersonvom | shardy: I did... but it seems to me that, since we're previewing what would happen if you submitted that template, it's only fair that if the template would fail, the preview fails as well. | 16:01 |
| andersonvom | shardy: someone else talked about this in the thread and other people seemed to agree as well. | 16:02 |
| shardy | andersonvom: Ok, fair enough, just seemed pretty likely to provide false data in a multi-user environment, that's all | 16:03 |
| shardy | not a big deal :) | 16:03 |
| andersonvom | shardy: humm, I'm not sure I understand the scenario. | 16:04 |
| shardy | andersonvom: You have 100 users in the tenant, and one does a preview, which works, then a create, which fails | 16:05 |
| shardy | because some other user just used the last available stack before the limit | 16:05 |
| shardy | So for that reason, the only sensible place to enforce the limit is when you're actually creating something, IMO | 16:05 |
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| andersonvom | shardy: humm I see what you're saying. | 16:07 |
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| shardy | enforcing max_resources_per_stack makes sense, but not max_stacks_per_tenant | 16:08 |
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| shardy | I doubt it will be a major issue in practice, just something which stood out, to me at least :) | 16:08 |
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| pshchelo | andersonvom: could you consider another rebase? I mean this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58641/. If you get "deleting stack in progress" in there, I could continue working on bp/cancel-update-stack. | 16:10 |
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| andersonvom | pshchelo: sure, no problem | 16:12 |
| pshchelo | andersonvom: thanks :) | 16:12 |
| tims | I would appreciate it if I could get a core member to pull the trigger on a few reviews.. | 16:14 |
| tims | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61601 | 16:14 |
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| tims | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62418/ | 16:14 |
| tims | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65325/ | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Check resources are in expected states https://review.openstack.org/58641 | 16:14 |
| radix | good morning | 16:15 |
| andersonvom | pshchelo: done | 16:15 |
| andersonvom | radix: morning! | 16:15 |
| tims | morning radix | 16:15 |
| pshchelo | andersonvom: \o/ | 16:15 |
| radix | got back pretty late last night... slept in this morning :P | 16:15 |
| radix | (back to dallas that is) | 16:16 |
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| andersonvom | zaneb: you around? | 16:18 |
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| pshchelo | all, I have problem with WaitConditions. I start a template with them defined, and I see that cfn-signal has done it's job in instances, but there is nothing incoming on heat-api-cfn | 16:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add ability to create provider networks (vlan,flat). https://review.openstack.org/72454 | 16:44 |
| shardy | pshchelo: ensure heat_waitcondition_server_url is set to a URL accessible to the instance, and that the port is open (tcp/8000) | 16:45 |
| pshchelo | what I find strange is that curl command from cfn-signal sends the data to [ip-address]/arn..., but heat-cfn-api listens on 8000 | 16:45 |
| shardy | pshchelo: You may need to open a firewall port to allow the instance access | 16:45 |
| pshchelo | shardy: aha, ok, will check that | 16:46 |
| shardy | heat_waitcondition_server_url=http://192.168.32.1:8000/v1/waitcondition | 16:46 |
| shardy | should look something like that, where the IP is an IP the instance can reach, and where the heat-api-cfn service is listening | 16:47 |
| pshchelo | in heat.conf you mean? | 16:47 |
| shardy | yep | 16:47 |
| shardy | then install nmap inside the instance and port-scan the IP, you should see 8000 open | 16:47 |
| pshchelo | i can ping the ip addres of the waitcondition server just fine from the instance, that I checked | 16:47 |
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| therve | shardy, Did you see that already; http://paste.openstack.org/show/65095/ ? | 16:56 |
| shardy | therve: where are you seeing that? I have seen similar stuff before when working out broken mocking.. | 16:57 |
| therve | shardy, Running master tests | 16:58 |
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| therve | shardy, And there was a new release of keystoneclient today. So I suspect I found the culprit :/ | 16:59 |
| therve | The gate is going to blow up soon | 16:59 |
| shardy | gah | 17:00 |
| shardy | therve: do you have a fix ready to push? | 17:01 |
| therve | No I don't understand what's happening yet | 17:01 |
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| therve | (Pdb) type(attr_to_replace): <class 'abc.ABCMeta'> | 17:04 |
| therve | That's the reason | 17:04 |
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| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/v3/client.py#L36 | 17:09 |
| shardy | therve: I'm trying to decypher the abc magic, AFAICS we're still trying to mock that class | 17:09 |
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| therve | shardy, Yeah but one of the parent use an abc metaclass, and that weirds out type() | 17:10 |
| therve | And mox uses that instead of isinstance | 17:10 |
| * shardy curses at weird non-obvious magic coding | 17:10 | |
| therve | So we can push a fix in mox, but I don't how reactive they are | 17:12 |
| therve | Or we use mock, but that's a giant ugly patch | 17:12 |
| shardy | worst case we'll cap our keystoneclient temporarily | 17:12 |
| pshchelo | shardy: yes, misconfigured heat_waitcondition_server_url turned out to be the problem. thanks! | 17:12 |
| therve | Hum the patch may not be that big | 17:15 |
| shardy | therve: patch to test_heatclient? | 17:16 |
| therve | shardy, Yeah we only mock it in 3 places | 17:16 |
| shardy | I've got a patch locally which reverts the cfg.CONF mocking, which should simplify things a bit | 17:16 |
| shardy | therve: Hmm, true | 17:16 |
| shardy | maybe we can just convert those for now then | 17:17 |
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| sdake | oslo.messaging patch - 30 test cases to go | 17:24 |
| * sdake ughs | 17:24 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Temporary cap to python-keystoneclient due to test breakage https://review.openstack.org/73369 | 17:52 |
| shardy_ | therve: I have to go soon, so there's a temporary cap to avoid everything breaking | 17:53 |
| shardy_ | unless you're already fixing it, I'll take a look at fixing the tests tomorrow | 17:53 |
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| zaneb | tspatzier: what is an 'instance model' in this context? | 18:15 |
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| tspatzier | hi zaneb | 18:15 |
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| tspatzier | for me with some heat knowledge, I would think this is a stack. So heat _has_ this instance model | 18:16 |
| zaneb | ok, thanks | 18:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Display max_template_size when a template is too large https://review.openstack.org/73373 | 18:19 |
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| zaneb | tspatzier: so maybe there's a lack of awareness that Heat covers the whole lifecycle (i.e. updates), not just deployment? | 18:20 |
| sdake | tspatzier do you have a link to the tosca library your developing (like a github link?) | 18:23 |
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| therve | shardy_afk, Cool thanks | 18:35 |
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| zaneb | down to the last failing unit test! | 18:37 |
| tspatzier | sdake: not sure this has been started already or if it's about to be started. That will be driven by spzala | 18:37 |
| spzala | sdake: tspatzier: sorry but it's not on the github yet. I will be creating a repo sometime next week and start uploading code as we progress. Hope that's OK. | 18:39 |
| zaneb | spzala: sounds good. btw what license are y'all planning to use? | 18:40 |
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| spzala | zaneb: thanks. license to use stackforge? | 18:41 |
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| spzala | zaneb: sorry didn't get the question on license | 18:42 |
| zaneb | spzala: as in, how will the code be licensed? GPL, Apache2, ... &c. | 18:42 |
| zaneb | (I gathered from what Matt said that it would be something open source, just curious which) | 18:43 |
| spzala | zaneb: ah I see. I think Apache2 .. tspatzier what do you think? | 18:43 |
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| zaneb | +1 for Apache2 ;) | 18:44 |
| spzala | zaneb: ah I see :) yeah I heard that from Matt too | 18:44 |
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| zaneb | tbh any opens source license is fine (except maybe AGPL), but Apache2 means guaranteed no headaches from an OpenStack perspective ;) | 18:45 |
| spzala | zaneb: :-) cool :-) thanks. that's good to know | 18:46 |
| spzala | zaneb: Hope weather is not too bad in asheville? it's really nasty in raleigh | 18:47 |
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| zaneb | depends what you mean by bad ;) we have about 7-8 inches of snow, but I work from home anyway ;) | 18:48 |
| spzala | zaneb: true, yeah I remember that you are working from home. with bad, I heard many places has power outage | 18:49 |
| zaneb | our street is actually clear though, so as of now it's not a problem | 18:49 |
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| spzala | zaneb: we are lucky so far but certain areas in the county is out of power | 18:49 |
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| zaneb | yeah, a lot of power outages in Georgia, I gather | 18:49 |
| spzala | zaneb: that's cool | 18:49 |
| zaneb | no problems of that sort here, fortunately | 18:49 |
| radix | texas is actually finally warming up | 18:49 |
| zaneb | I think they trim the trees a bit better here ;) | 18:50 |
| spzala | zaneb: Cool. loosing power is the worst | 18:50 |
| zaneb | yeah, I bet | 18:50 |
| zaneb | I was just thinking about that this morning. we don't have another source of heat | 18:50 |
| spzala | radix: I heard it's gonna be around 70 today | 18:50 |
| spzala | zaneb: he he yeah Heat is very important | 18:51 |
| radix | little bit less than that up in dallas, but yeah, as long as it's not ~freezing like the past week :P | 18:51 |
| zaneb | lol | 18:51 |
| radix | speaking of which, I'm going to go outside for lunch | 18:52 |
| spzala | radix: :-) cool. | 18:52 |
| zaneb | I love hearing from Texans about how terrible it is to be ~freezing :D | 18:52 |
| spzala | lol | 18:53 |
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| andersonvom | zaneb: hey, I had to rebase that resource load patch after you approved it. do you have a few secs to look at it again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71989/ | 19:05 |
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| lifeless | where did OS::Heat::RandomString go ? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html | 19:19 |
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| wirehead_ | Heat: The one open source project that's not afraid of a little snow | 19:24 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: hello, are you here? | 19:25 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: I am | 19:26 |
| skraynev | Could you clarify me your position about property names in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72454/6/heat/engine/resources/neutron/provider_net.py | 19:26 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: good question | 19:26 |
| skraynev | Because I thought, that using column is bad idea, but Rabi said that you accept his variant. | 19:27 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: done | 19:28 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: great! thanks ) I began to think, that I not sleep enough. | 19:30 |
| stevebaker | heh | 19:30 |
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| sdake | spzala I think GPL would be a problem from a compliance standpoint - I dont think asl and gpl are compatible | 19:33 |
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| sdake | spzala my wife came up with a name for the tosca lib your working on | 19:33 |
| sdake | "Blowtorch" | 19:33 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: when I generate docs locally I get 12 OS:: resources, not 4. Either that site builds off havana or the docs job is broken | 19:34 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: If you have time, could you give advice about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1250645 | 19:36 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: my advice: develop it so you can unit test the bejesus out of it ;) | 19:37 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: AFAIK, we can't remove port from started instance | 19:38 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: so why can't RandomString be used as {Ref: SomeRandomString} rather than the fugly getattr value hack ? | 19:38 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: actually I believe there is a port detach method, possibly in the nova API | 19:39 |
| skraynev | and only way for update it is update existed port or restart whole instance | 19:39 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: I have not found something like it | 19:39 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: I will research it again tomorrow , may be I missed something | 19:40 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: because I didn't implement it like that ;) | 19:41 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: I think earlier attempts created multiple random strings. I'd be happy for the resource_id to be the random | 19:42 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: the relationship between server and port resources has issues on stack update. I haven't had time to look at possible solutions yet but I was hoping that port attach/detach would help | 19:43 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: is it fixable ? | 19:44 |
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| stevebaker | randomstring? sure | 19:44 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: novaclient Server interface_attach/interface_detach | 19:47 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: Oh! thx I will try to use it. | 19:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: RandomString use the random string as the resource_id https://review.openstack.org/73388 | 19:59 |
| skraynev | Guys.. Do you know about problem in gate tests? | 19:59 |
| skraynev | related with keystone | 20:00 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: there are many problems, please be more specific ;) | 20:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Native Nova Server compatibility for Cloud Server https://review.openstack.org/58043 | 20:00 |
| skraynev | http://logs.openstack.org/06/68406/7/check/gate-heat-python26/b577c6a/console.html | 20:00 |
| * sdake reminds himself not to update devstack | 20:00 | |
| skraynev | As I understand all py27 and py26 tests fail now. | 20:00 |
| sdake | wonder how it got past the gate | 20:01 |
| skraynev | I recently started tox locally and got same error | 20:01 |
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| stevebaker | maybe there has been a keystoneclient release, which breaks our stuffs | 20:01 |
| skraynev | I have not a guess.. crazy behavior | 20:02 |
| stevebaker | yes, released yesterday https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-keystoneclient/0.6.0 | 20:03 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: since you can replicate it locally can you see if there is an easy fix? | 20:04 |
| stevebaker | shardy_afk is already on it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73369/ | 20:05 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: I got it recently. I may try to fix it... but can't give estimate | 20:08 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: This will workaround in the meantime https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73369/ | 20:09 |
| jasond` | stevebaker: won't that continue to fail due to "Incompatible requirement found"? | 20:09 |
| stevebaker | jasond`: we shall see | 20:09 |
| jasond` | :) | 20:09 |
| jasond` | it's always a toss up | 20:10 |
| stevebaker | jasond`: capping may be allowed | 20:10 |
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| sdake | gmail inbox spammed with my binge orders of house of cards season 1 | 20:11 |
| sdake | btw, that show rocks for folks that do the tv thing | 20:11 |
| sdake | I guess I'm going to have to buy netflix now :( | 20:11 |
| stevebaker | Still haven't found a replacement for Breaking Bad | 20:13 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: it will take years | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | Walking Dead is pretty good though | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | if you don't mind lots of pieces of zombies flying | 20:18 |
| stevebaker | I didn't last the pilot, I should give it another shot | 20:18 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: I've realised that software-config has no HOT. Its just resources | 20:19 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: \o/ | 20:20 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: unravelling dependencies FTW | 20:20 |
| stevebaker | once I've posted the StructuredSoftwareConfig I'll have another crack at the tripleo templates | 20:21 |
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| spzala | sdake: sorry, back to back meetings. I think it's gonna be Apache so there shouldn't be any problem. Interesting on naming :-), what is it? | 20:29 |
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| mgc | hi all, is there some good documentation on how to auto assign a public IP on instance creation? | 20:41 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: thanks btw! | 20:42 |
| grncdr | mgc; it kind of depends on how your OS is set up | 20:43 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: been sharing the templates more and more with people and its like.. a giant nest of "but soon they will be readable" fail :-P | 20:43 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: yeah, you've got a bit of debt to pay down because Heat couldn't do it in the first place | 20:44 |
| grncdr | mgc: are you using Neutron networking? | 20:44 |
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| mgc | i'm actually doing it according to cloudformation (AWS) syntax and will be using heat to get it on openstack afterwards | 20:46 |
| mgc | grncdr ^^ | 20:46 |
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| grncdr | mgc: oh, I gave up on using AWS::* resources for networking so I don't really know :\ | 20:47 |
| grncdr | you'll probably want to create an ElasticIP and ElasticIPAssociation resource | 20:47 |
| grncdr | but I never got those to work so I switched to OS::Quantum::FloatingIP[Association] | 20:48 |
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| mgc | ok cool, thanks | 20:52 |
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| stevebaker | nope, requirements cap won't work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73369/ | 21:04 |
| sdake | spzala a blowtorch is a thing that generates ALOT of heat :) | 21:05 |
| lifeless | mgc: there are two wayts | 21:05 |
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| lifeless | mgc: you can ask for a floating ip, or you can set the nova setting to auto-assign | 21:06 |
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| andersonvom | hey folks, does anybody know where I would be able to find Keystone v3 API docs? | 21:06 |
| andersonvom | nevermind... http://api.openstack.org/api-ref-identity.html (not easy to get to, though) | 21:08 |
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| spzala | sdake: Ahh :-). Nice! | 21:17 |
| zaneb | mgc: yep, what grncdr said - in CloudFormation you want an ElasticIp resource, and Heat supports that too. Be aware that if your OpenStack has Neutron, you have to use VPC in your CloudFormation template, but if your OpenStack has nova-network, you *can't* use VPC in your CloudFormation template | 21:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Restructure contrib/ directories https://review.openstack.org/73417 | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Docker resources to docs https://review.openstack.org/68753 | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor resource loading functions https://review.openstack.org/71989 | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix resource mapping for Docker https://review.openstack.org/68749 | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix resource mapping for Rackspace https://review.openstack.org/69374 | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Change Docker resource mapping name https://review.openstack.org/68750 | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Generate docs for contrib plugins https://review.openstack.org/68751 | 21:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Temporary cap to python-keystoneclient due to test breakage https://review.openstack.org/73369 | 21:42 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: unfortunately I met problem with mocking ABCMeta class. Also there is night time now. I would be glad if anybody resolve it or I will be back to this problem tomorrow. Is it possible ? | 22:05 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: therve and shardy_afk discussed it earlier and a critical bug has been raised. Somebody will fix it. | 22:06 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: thx. If nobody don't do it, I will try to fix it, when wake up. | 22:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Plunk proposed a change to openstack/heat: Nova keypair validation breaks client plugins https://review.openstack.org/73441 | 22:59 |
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