Thursday, 2014-02-20

randallburtoh wow. Did I screw up my calendar?00:00
stevebakermeeting time00:01
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stevebakerwe're meeting in #openstack-meeting-alt due to a clash00:08
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radixit's kind of strange that the OpenStack Summit web site doesn't actually say where the conference is00:44
radixunless I'm just missing it00:44
radixI assume it's going to be held at CNN center, but I'm not sure00:45
radixoh, there it is. "Georgia World Congress Center"00:46
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openstackgerritlvdongbing proposed a change to openstack/heat: Sync log.py from oslo  https://review.openstack.org/7463501:05
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sdakezaneb stevebaker some info on #openstack-meeting-alt re heat-templates01:09
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sdakei'm out for the day enjoy01:10
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openstackgerritlvdongbing proposed a change to openstack/heat: Sync log.py from oslo  https://review.openstack.org/7463501:32
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openstackgerritMitsuru Kanabuchi proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Neutron::ExtraRoute as /contrib  https://review.openstack.org/7489902:33
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openstackgerritlvdongbing proposed a change to openstack/heat: Sync log.py from oslo  https://review.openstack.org/7463502:44
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: de-hardcode adjustment type strings in autoscaling  https://review.openstack.org/7388703:01
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use olso.messaging  https://review.openstack.org/7279803:15
openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add an iteritems for RequestContext  https://review.openstack.org/7460603:15
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use olso.messaging  https://review.openstack.org/7279804:21
sdakezaneb thanks for the tip about the dict04:21
sdakethat actually fixed a bunch of other bugs I was having with RPC04:25
sdakeI just implemented a serializer/deserializer for rpc04:25
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Improve help strings  https://review.openstack.org/7481604:50
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Improve help strings  https://review.openstack.org/7481604:50
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openstackgerritMitsuru Kanabuchi proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Neutron::ExtraRoute as /contrib  https://review.openstack.org/7489905:06
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sdakeinteresting, stack locking doesn't suffer from stale locks in the db05:13
sdakeclever approach05:13
sdakeoff to bed :)05:13
openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use olso.messaging  https://review.openstack.org/7279805:14
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openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update contrib docstrings to match guidelines  https://review.openstack.org/7307005:43
openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update api docstrings to match guidelines  https://review.openstack.org/7351505:43
openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update common docstrings to match guidelines  https://review.openstack.org/7351905:43
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/7256606:09
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therveGood morning!08:16
pshchelomorning :)08:17
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add flavor constraint  https://review.openstack.org/7496808:56
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skraynevtherve: about flavor constraint. Should it be default as for Keypair ? Is it make sense add to existing property schema of server and instance?09:07
therveskraynev, yeah I wanted to keep the patch smaller. We can do it after I think09:08
skraynevtherve: agree. it will be better ;)09:09
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therveWhat? The global requirements merge failed with incompatible requirement found09:28
skraynevMmm. Bad joke of Jenkins...09:29
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skraynevtherve: only old content of update09:30
skraynevglobal requirements has keystoneclient >= 0.609:30
skraynevin this patch 0.509:31
skraynevtherve: I suppose bot update request is late :) May be next update from him fix it problem.09:32
therveYeah09:32
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lifelessdoes Fn::Select operate on dicts?09:59
lifelessor should one use Fn::GetAtt ?09:59
therveIt operates on dict10:02
therveGetAtt only works on resources OTOH10:02
lifelessI'm trying to get the hostname of a server; we're using OS::Nova::Server rather than the AWS instance type10:03
lifelessthe AWS one has publicDNSName10:03
lifelessahhhhh typo10:06
lifelessFn::geAtt10:06
* lifeless stabs no-exception-no-typechecking10:06
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chmoueljust approved a change to get heat by default in devstcack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73306/10:19
chmouelthere is maybe some documentation to update10:19
shadowerjprovazn: weren't you just trying to do the same thing lifeless' asking about?10:21
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jprovaznshadower: lifeless: I was trying to get PublicDnsName from other instances in stack - this is not possible with Heat ATM10:22
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lifelessjprovazn: 10.10.16.159 overcloud-NovaCompute0-kikkxzqvn55u overcloud-NovaCompute0-kikkxzqvn55u.local10:27
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lifeless10.10.16.149 overcloud-NovaCompute1-uyvmanimooqb overcloud-NovaCompute1-uyvmanimooqb.local10:27
lifelesslike a bought one10:27
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lifelessjprovazn: you can't use PublicDnsName because they aren't AWS instances10:28
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lifelessjprovazn: have a look at https://review.openstack.org/7492810:31
jprovaznlifeless: ah, nice10:35
jprovaznlifeless: so  Fn::GetAtt: [NovaCompute0, show] returns hostname of the node10:35
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lifelessno10:38
lifelessit returns the novaclient _info dict10:39
lifelessin that there is a key name10:39
lifelessand I use that + the default .local to construct a useful hostname for tripleo10:39
lifelessits a bit fugly10:39
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lifelessbut suffices for now10:39
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DaveJ__Hi guys - just installed ice-house beta1 from RDO.  Heat seems to behaving strangely.  I can launch a stack - but nothing actually happens.  The heat engine log validates the template, but then just lists "Starting new HTTP connection (1): 10.20.51.82" where that is the IP of my controller node.12:13
DaveJ__Had a look through launchpad, but couldn't find a bug that looked like that12:13
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DaveJ__The event list is empty for the stack, but I can't find any errors12:16
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DaveJ__Keystone is complaining about v2 API being deprecated though.   'Deprecated: v2 API is deprecated as of Icehouse in favor of v3 API'12:18
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DaveJ__Just tried installing the latest from git... Himm that made things worse %-)12:25
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therveDaveJ__, Do you have a timeout after some time? Is nova working independently?12:51
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cmysterDaveJ__: also how did you install things?12:53
tnurlygayanovHi12:54
DaveJ__cmyster: I installed via RDO yum repos.12:54
DaveJ__therve: Yes Nova and Neutron components are both working12:54
cmysteryes, but yum install heat or did you use packstack?12:54
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tnurlygayanovI try to use https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/cfn/F17/InstanceGroup.template and combine it with wait condition12:55
therveDaveJ__, How are things worse with master?12:55
tnurlygayanovbut after the first signal the one VM my Heat stack goes to 'Ready State', but I want to collect signals from all servers12:56
DaveJ__therve:  I started getting errors about not being able to import python modules 'deploy' and 'routes'.  Think that was my issue.  I've reverted back to my havana install as I was blocking other users.  I'll retry it again when I get an maintenance window.12:56
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DaveJ__cmyster: packstack12:56
cmysterDaveJ__: can you post the command that you were using ?12:58
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cmysteroh reading up, never mind then12:58
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skraynevhello, sdake13:44
shadowerhey13:46
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sdakeif anyone is looking for some pain time reviewing a patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72798/14:01
sdakerecommend ignoring the tests directory for now :)14:01
shadowerwow Sdake vs. Jenkins: The Movie14:02
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sdakeya - I wasn't totally concerned with getting the unit tests working until now :)14:15
sdakethe code seems to work pretty well14:15
sdakegoing to test mutli-engine this morning14:15
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sdake jasond` how would you recommend testing multi-engine?  Does it require two machines or can be done on one machine?14:16
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sdakestack locking implementation rocks14:43
sdakeand to think we could do it nicely without zookeeper ;)14:43
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thervesdake, *cough* nicely14:53
sdaketherve have you looked at the implementation?14:53
sdakeits really quite good14:53
sdakenice and simple14:54
therveI've looked at the reviews fixing the problems :)14:54
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openstackgerritLars Kellogg-Stedman proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: add output-list and output-show  https://review.openstack.org/6059115:08
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sdakelarsks just one nitpick on that change and i'll +215:33
larskssdake: ...looking...15:34
larsksOkay, blueprinting.15:35
sdakethanks15:35
sdakewe use the record of blueprints in all kinds of material outside of actually developing software15:35
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openstackgerritLars Kellogg-Stedman proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: add output-list and output-show  https://review.openstack.org/6059115:41
larskssdake: All set.15:41
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openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move X-Auth-Url logic to auth_url middleware  https://review.openstack.org/6880016:18
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sdakecould someone that has a copy of heat running atm in devstack run heat describe ABCDEF16:45
sdakeand tell me what the output is?16:46
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jasondsdake: "Stack not found: ABCDEF"16:48
sdakeERROR: Remote error: StackNotFound The Stack (wp) could not be found.16:49
sdakeyou don't get something like that correct?16:49
jasondnope, just: Stack not found: ABCDEF16:49
sdakethanks16:50
jasondnp16:50
sergmelikyantried too, same result: "Stack not found: ABCDEF"16:54
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openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Docker resources to docs  https://review.openstack.org/6875317:01
openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Restructure contrib/ directories  https://review.openstack.org/7341717:01
openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix resource mapping for Docker  https://review.openstack.org/6874917:01
openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix resource mapping for Rackspace  https://review.openstack.org/6937417:01
openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Change Docker resource mapping name  https://review.openstack.org/6875017:01
openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Generate docs for contrib plugins  https://review.openstack.org/6875117:01
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pshchelohi all, have a question: I need to use Neutron::LoadBalancer with Havana release. It seems I can not define members in the template - get_resource does not work17:12
pshchelohow could I pass members in the template?17:12
thervepshchelo, Can you show how you're doing?17:12
pshchelotherve: just a sec17:13
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jpeeleri thought we weren't syncing individual changes from oslo17:15
pshchelotherve: http://paste.openstack.org/show/67679/17:16
thervejpeeler, Aren't we? I don't know what "we" are doing17:16
jasondjpeeler: as opposed to grouping a bunch of changes together in one commit?17:17
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thervepshchelo, That looks correct. How is it failing?17:17
jpeeleryeah, all of the changes versus one file fixes. we need to stay up to date with oslo anyway17:18
pshchelotherve: and the error is from nova_utils.server_to_ipaddress - server u'{ get_resource: ApplicationServerOne }' not found17:18
thervejpeeler, Well. It's a bit more subtle than that, as modules get removed, thus requiring code changes in heat17:19
pshcheloso that it does not resolve the reference, and inputing it verbatim17:19
jpeelereven more reason to stay up to date, no?17:19
pshcheloI'm beating my head now tryig to pry the id of the server with Fn::Select / Fn:GetAtt17:19
thervejpeeler, Sure, but I mean that if we need to make code changes in heat, I'd rather not hide them with a 10k diff17:20
pshchelowith master everything is working fine, but Havan is the hard set limitation17:20
jasondjpeeler: i'd prefer syncing individual changes if it weren't for the review overhead.  i frequently narrow down bugs to a single large olso sync commit.  eg https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/128122617:21
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1281226 in heat "migrate_repo script output clutters unit test output" [Undecided,New]17:21
jpeelerjasond: but then how do you ever fully get up to date?17:21
jasondjpeeler: yeah, it would be a lot more work with reviews17:22
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thervepscheie, Ah so the template works on master but not havana?17:23
jpeelerpersonally i think if you need a fix from oslo, updating everything is a good way of making sure we stay reasonably up to date. otherwise we need some type of sync schedule set up.17:25
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pshcheloyes17:25
pshchelotherve: ^17:26
therveWell that's an interesting information to have :)17:26
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jasondjpeeler: a sync schedule sounds like an improvement17:28
jasondeven better would be a heat CI bot on the oslo project17:28
jpeeleri'm going to add it to the meeting agenda - yeah CI is always a great idea17:29
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randallburthttps://twitter.com/amyvtruong/status/436558680050262016/photo/1 I virtually get around.17:58
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pshchelotherve: so, it is a bug in LoadBalancer Resource in Havana. I've fixed it. How should I file a bug for it?18:08
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thervepscheie, Sure. Maybe it's missing a backport? Can you explain?18:08
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pshchelotherve: http://paste.openstack.org/show/67699/18:10
thervepshchelo, In handle_create?18:11
pshcheloso it was taking the members varbatim from the template18:11
pshcheloyes18:11
pshcheloand in handle update18:11
pshchelos/update/delete18:11
thervepshchelo, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55816/18:12
therveYou can mark 1247638 for backport18:13
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jasondrandallburt: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71730/ awaits you18:15
jasondwould someone mind reviewing this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72008/18:16
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pshchelotherve: how can I do it?18:17
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therveI'm not sure, let's see18:18
pshcheloit is marked already18:18
pshcheloby shardy18:18
therveAh yeah18:18
pshchelowill submit a patch tomorrow then. or is it more elaborate procedure for backports?18:19
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thervepscheie, There is a bit of boilerplate, but I think I've figured it out18:25
openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use olso.messaging  https://review.openstack.org/7279818:26
sdakemulti-engine seems to work - yay ;)18:26
saurabhsHi, I am trying to understand how to write heat templates for multi node deployment. So lets say I have a DB node and a service controller node. If I have to reference DB node in Service Controller Node's configuration, how do I do that?18:27
jasondsdake: nice.  that is a good test18:28
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randallburtjasond:  approved. sorry, was talking to trove folks about heat integration at their summit.18:29
jasondno problem, thanks18:30
thervepshchelo, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75126/18:32
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randallburtjasond:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72008/ do you want to discuss? maybe when stevebaker is available?18:37
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lifelesssaurabhs: you use the top level name of the db18:37
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jasondrandallburt: sure18:38
jasondi mean, we can discuss now18:38
jasondrandallburt: Server would never see the 500 error18:39
jasondso what is there to test?18:39
randallburtjasond:  so am I missing something about removing the resize error tests? My only concern as I said was that those tests, while ultimately dependent on the behavior of refresh, transit more code that just that18:39
randallburtjasond:  regression18:39
randallburtat least its a gate to make sure that changes to refresh don't resurface the 500 errors.18:40
jasonddo you think i should continue mocking the get return value?18:40
jasondsteve said i wouldn't have to18:40
saurabhslifeless: so I can see that if my resource name is DBNode. I can get its IP using  { "Fn::GetAtt" : [ "DBNode", "PublicIp" ]}18:40
saurabhsdoes this look correct?18:40
randallburtjasond:  ah, I see your reasoning now. If you mock refresh to force the 500 error, you're actually mocking behavior that it shouldn't ever exhibit.18:40
saurabhscan this information can go in user_data, but can it go in the meta_data somehow?18:40
randallburtdo I have the right of it?18:41
jasondrandallburt: yep18:41
randallburtjasond:  ok, I get it now. Will +2. thanks for the clarification18:41
jasondrandallburt: np, thanks for the review18:41
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lifelesssaurabhs: if its an AWS::Instance yes18:46
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lifelesssaurabhs: if its an OS::Nova::Server you need to poke around inside "Fn::GetAtt": [ DBNode, show ]18:47
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saurabhslifeless: yeh that template I looked at was aws. Can you guide me to a heat template that is updating metadata (key-value)? How to control order of resources that are getting created? or its the order in which they are written in that file?18:55
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lifelesssaurabhs: order is dependency graph based18:59
lifelesssaurabhs: you could look at a tripleo heat template for deploying openstack itself if you wanted - git clone https://git.openstack.org/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates ; make -C tripleo-heat-templates overcloud.yaml19:00
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Rackspace Cloud Networks resource  https://review.openstack.org/6879019:08
randallburtjasond:  ^^19:09
jasondrandallburt: looking19:10
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lifelessSpamapS: so why aren't functions in parameters supported anymore? Lazy is bad or something ?19:49
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lifelessand whats the replacement for doing variables ?19:49
lifelessstevebaker: ^ did you see this 128259419:50
lifelessstevebaker: if you look at clints fix, you can see it makes the templates much more verbose and less DRY19:51
stevebakerlifeless: evaluating functions in parameters has only ever worked by accident rather than design (and the same goes for that feature breaking)19:55
lifelessstevebaker: sure, but -19:55
stevebakerlifeless: I wouldn't be against enabling that as part of the HOT spec19:55
lifelessright19:56
lifelessbasically I want somewhere where we can centralise these awful expressions19:56
lifelessthe obvious next step is a macro feature in merge.py19:56
stevebakerfwiw they are not aweful in HOT ;)19:56
lifelessthey are still redundant19:56
stevebakeryes19:57
stevebakerlifeless: so what are your thoughts about a get_attr_list vs a map function?20:00
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lifelessstevebaker: one seems very special case, the other seems well known and generally applicable.20:05
lifelessstevebaker: why are you considering get_attr_list ?20:05
stevebakerlifeless: it could be that the only use case that needs to be covered is getting a list of values from a list of homogeneous resources, where those resources are either specified as an explicit list or from some sort of resource group.20:07
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: add output-list and output-show  https://review.openstack.org/6059120:08
stevebakerhell, get_attr could be extended to do it. get_attr [resource1, value] returns a value. get_attr [[resource1, resource2], value] returns [value1, value2]20:08
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Parse stack_adopt_data  https://review.openstack.org/7155320:08
randallburtstevebaker:  fwiw, ResourceGroup already aggregates attribute values into lists, so I'm not sure what's missing. Full disclosure, I didn't read the post too closely.20:10
randallburtget_attr: { group, value } returns [value1, value2, …]20:11
randallburtsorry, replace those curlies with brackets.20:11
openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add flavor constraint  https://review.openstack.org/7496820:12
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lifelessstevebaker: so, look at20:12
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/7492820:12
lifelesswhich would not be satisfied by such a function20:12
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thervelifeless, Wow. You should open bugs to expose Server attributes20:14
therveUsing show sucks20:14
lifelesstherve: I will... it was at 11:30pm20:14
lifelesstherve: and then this morning I find the abstracted more readable version broke because of this heat change :(20:15
lifelessI keep saying heat folk should come work on our use case directly... have an actual user on day one... :)20:15
stevebakerlifeless: we are, but we're solving the problems in HOT and there is an effort barrier to you moving to that20:16
lifelessstevebaker: I know :)20:16
stevebakerwere I not PTL I'd have time to work on that20:17
lifelessstevebaker: /win 4820:18
lifelessbah20:18
stevebakerlifeless: it looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74928/5/overcloud-source.yaml could be done with a get_attr_list and a list append function20:18
stevebakerlifeless: I'm not saying we won't do a map function, I'm just exploring the options20:19
lifelesswhat would list_append do ?20:20
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stevebakerlifeless: take a list of lists and return a single flat list20:22
stevebakerlist flatten20:23
lifelessso map(append, list1, ... listN)20:23
stevebakeryep20:23
lifelessyah20:23
lifelessthe haskeller in me is weeping20:23
lifelessstevebaker: more seriously, in language design, I really prefer to have orthogonal things, *particularly* when users can't define their own functions20:23
therveI think Zane is working on plugin function?20:24
therveThat would be a good usecase for that20:24
therveAlthough we may want to solve the "get ip from X server on Y networks" more generally20:24
lifelessso I mean 'I as an unprivileged user can define a function'20:25
lifelessnot 'I can run arbitrary python code in the server' :)20:26
stevebakertherve: btw I removed the milestone from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/parameter-nested-schema. Maybe it should be marked Implemented or Obsolete?20:26
thervestevebaker, yeah sorry. I got voluntold on that one somehow. If you can explain to me what it means I can do something, but I'm confused by it20:27
stevebakertherve: I was hoping you could explain it to me ;) I'll just remove you as the assignee20:28
stevebakermaybe asalkeld could elaborate in the whiteboard20:29
therveYeah20:30
aweitekaquestion... was OS::Nova::KeyPair added in Icehouse? on havana i'm getting ERROR: Unknown resource Type : OS::Nova::KeyPair20:31
stevebakeraweiteka: icehouse I think20:32
aweitekastevebaker, looks like it. no biggie. thx20:32
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stevebakertherve: do your param constraints allow the value to be modified? we could use that to do name->id conversions20:34
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thervestevebaker, I was thinking about that. It doesn't right, but it's more a limitation of the Schema system than anything20:36
stevebakertherve: maybe resource properties should just continue to do that20:37
thervestevebaker, Continue to do what?20:37
stevebakertherve: do the name->id conversion internally20:38
therveMaybe. It could create duplication at some point20:38
stevebakerwe've already got utility functions for that20:39
therveWe'll have a potential performance problem if we don't cache the result of those API calls20:39
radixhmm, I've been getting a database error when running the tests, but it's not causing a failure20:40
radixdoesn't happen every time20:40
radixDBError: UPDATE statement on table 'stack' expected to update 1 row(s); 0 were matched.20:40
therveradix, Spurious error20:40
therveI thought jasond opened a patch about it, I fixed it once already20:40
openstackgerritChristopher Armstrong proposed a change to openstack/heat: add OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup  https://review.openstack.org/7422920:41
thervehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/127883620:41
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1278836 in heat "stack lock delete change causes test traceback" [Medium,Fix committed]20:41
therveThe previous fix applied again should make it20:41
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radixok cool20:54
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update oslo.config sample generation tools  https://review.openstack.org/7518721:11
openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use olso.messaging  https://review.openstack.org/7279821:11
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add handle_update to VolumeAttachment  https://review.openstack.org/7268122:50
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openstackgerritPengfei Zhang proposed a change to openstack/heat: Changed Openstack into OpenStack in contrib.rst  https://review.openstack.org/7522823:20
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arbyleeAnyone familiar with Jenkins results saying "LOST"? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68800/23:25
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randallburtarbylee:  could just be infra hiccup. sounds like a job for "recheck no bug" and probably report it if you get the same thing again23:36
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openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow outputs to be specified as hidden  https://review.openstack.org/7523823:51
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