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| spzala | stevebaker: Hi! Got a minute for question, pl? | 00:58 |
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| stevebaker | spzala: sure | 00:58 |
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| spzala | stevebaker: Thanks! so for heat-translator core review group, should I have all Heat core reviewers? | 00:58 |
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| stevebaker | spzala: you may as well, if you don't mind | 00:58 |
| spzala | stevebaker: also I am thinking to have couple guys from my team who are tosca domain experts. | 00:58 |
| spzala | stevebaker: sure, that sounds great. | 00:58 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, you about? | 03:55 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-cloud-init.yaml | 03:55 |
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| asalkeld | this ^ is the complicated version | 03:55 |
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| asalkeld | what does the simple one look like (I just want to run a simple start up script via cloud-init) | 03:56 |
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| asalkeld | do I need the mulitpartmime and a softwareconfig? | 03:57 |
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| asalkeld | urg: these fancy constraints :( | 04:12 |
| asalkeld | now you can't pass a {get_attr ...} into a property | 04:12 |
| asalkeld | therve, ^ | 04:13 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: if you're using user_data_format: RAW then any of those config resources could be reffed in the user_data, and cloud-init will attempt to figure out what to do with it | 04:22 |
| asalkeld | cool | 04:23 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: but for user_data_format: SOFTWARE_CONFIG it has to be wrapped in a multipart resource, otherwise heat doesn't know that it should be appended to its own multipart list | 04:23 |
| asalkeld | k | 04:25 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, I thought you could have a resource property that has a get_attr, can you remember? | 05:35 |
| asalkeld | so like : | 05:35 |
| asalkeld | resources: | 05:35 |
| asalkeld | x: | 05:36 |
| asalkeld | properties: | 05:36 |
| asalkeld | athing: {get_attr: [y, attribute_of_y]} | 05:36 |
| asalkeld | our property check is not dealing with this | 05:37 |
| asalkeld | it just returns None/'' and fails | 05:37 |
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| therve | 'morning | 08:08 |
| SpamapS | therve: how is your wednesday morning? | 08:09 |
| skraynev | Morning | 08:09 |
| therve | SpamapS, Wonderful for now :) | 08:10 |
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| shardy | morning all! | 08:20 |
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| pshchelo | morning all :) | 08:25 |
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| therve | shardy, Have you looked at how get_file works on the client side? | 08:55 |
| therve | stevebaker mentioned I could use it to inline resources, but I can't make it work | 08:56 |
| shardy | therve: I've not tried it yet, only looked at the reviews | 08:56 |
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| shardy | therve: have you looked at stevebakers software-config sample templates which are up for review? | 08:56 |
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| therve | shardy, Yeah, I think it's just one specific thing that doesn't work, which is to specify a type: filename.yaml | 08:57 |
| shardy | therve: do you mean like in https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1288541 ? | 08:59 |
| therve | That's roughly the idea, except using the files parameter to stack create | 09:00 |
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| therve | shardy, http://paste.openstack.org/show/73229/ FWIW | 09:10 |
| therve | Trying to delete a stack in CREATE_FAILED | 09:10 |
| therve | Hum maybe my db is out of date though | 09:10 |
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| shardy | therve: yeah you're missing the migration which makes the id nullable I think | 09:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Propagate files in nested stacks https://review.openstack.org/79899 | 10:41 |
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| asalkeld | https://github.com/stackforge/warm | 11:02 |
| asalkeld | lol ^ | 11:02 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: potential competitor =) | 11:04 |
| asalkeld | warm but not hot | 11:04 |
| asalkeld | :) | 11:04 |
| * shardy doesn't quite get the point of it.. | 11:05 | |
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| therve | pshchelo, I think the bug you opened is just a problem with your patch | 14:51 |
| therve | If you update self.properties when you need to, it should work | 14:51 |
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| pshchelo | therve: how is that? I was just implementing handle_update, and self.properties are updated outside of it in Resource.update(). Besides, different behaviour seems like a bug. | 15:15 |
| therve | pshchelo, It's a bit unclear to me to, but I think it depends on what you want to do in handle_update. | 15:16 |
| pshchelo | I will try to come up with some example using existing code in master | 15:16 |
| therve | pshchelo, See WaitCondition.handle_update for example. It explicitely updates self.properties | 15:16 |
| pshchelo | ok, will take a look | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add timeout option to stack-update https://review.openstack.org/79488 | 15:18 |
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| spzala | sdake: Hi! Got a minute, pl? | 15:23 |
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| pshchelo | therve: I tried what WaitCondition is doing, and it does not work, as json_snippet also contains already updated properties at this stage (when using get_param) | 15:30 |
| therve | pshchelo, Right, the idea is that you may need to update self.properties as you need. | 15:31 |
| therve | It may not be the exact same code | 15:31 |
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| pshchelo | but how could I un-update it when it is already updated? and I've found no way to get a reference to the original resource params in this case... | 15:32 |
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| therve | pshchelo, self.t['Properties'] ? | 15:33 |
| shardy | pshchelo: why do you want to reference the pre-update properties, to me it's expected that you need to resolve all references in terms of the new, post-update properties? | 15:34 |
| pshchelo | therve: nope, tried that | 15:34 |
| therve | I'm sure that works. We do that in several places | 15:34 |
| shardy | therve: yeah it must do as we don't update the template until the end of the stack_task | 15:35 |
| shardy | update_task I mean | 15:35 |
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| pshchelo | shardy: with VolumeAttachment I first need to detach the old volume, so I need the old volume_id for that | 15:35 |
| therve | pshchelo, self.t['Properties][self.VOLUME_ID] | 15:36 |
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| pshchelo | just tried it, it already contains the volume_id I supplied with stack-update | 15:38 |
| zaneb | therve, pshchelo: do y'all have a link to the patch you're discussing? | 15:38 |
| pshchelo | zaneb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72681/ | 15:39 |
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| pshchelo | and the bug I've filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1291411 (a bit too much to read though.. :( ) | 15:41 |
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| zaneb | pshchelo: if something changed recently it was almost certainly this: https://github.com/openstack/heat/commit/ca819d0bb33b6d54e88f85630dd111f9e8bf97ac | 15:47 |
| pshchelo | zaneb: thanks, will take a deeper look | 15:49 |
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| therve | pshchelo, you shouldn't use update_allowed_properties BTW. I don't even know why that exists | 15:52 |
| shardy | therve: it was used before we had properties schema and everything was hard-coded | 15:53 |
| therve | Ah okay | 15:53 |
| zaneb | pscheie, pshchelo: one of you needs to change your IRC nick ;) | 15:53 |
| zaneb | pshchelo: it seems to me that VolumeDetachTask should take an attachment ID instead of a volume ID as an argument | 15:54 |
| zaneb | then the problem goes away | 15:54 |
| zaneb | there's no point trying to guess the volume id associated with a particular attachment id just so we can turn it back into an attachment id using a linear search | 15:56 |
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| pshchelo | zaneb: yes, it will probably solve the problem. But it is still strange difference in behaviour in relation to using/not using get_param | 16:00 |
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| zaneb | pshchelo: yes, that... is very strange indeed | 16:01 |
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| pshchelo | zaneb: and I would still need to get volume_id in the DetachTask to be able to poll the volume for its status | 16:06 |
| zaneb | hmmm... can you not query the attachment id and find out what volume it is for? | 16:07 |
| pshchelo | will try | 16:07 |
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| andrew_plunk | hey therve, are you around? | 17:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add handle_update to VolumeAttachment https://review.openstack.org/72681 | 17:24 |
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| therve | andrew_plunk, yep! | 17:35 |
| andrew_plunk | In regards to: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79953/ | 17:35 |
| andrew_plunk | when I tested it locally I was still getting the KeyError | 17:35 |
| therve | andrew_plunk, How did you test? | 17:36 |
| andrew_plunk | doing stack-creates with a running heat | 17:36 |
| therve | andrew_plunk, The stack wasn't existing before my patch? | 17:36 |
| andrew_plunk | before and after your patch, I get a KeyError when trying to do the stack create | 17:37 |
| andrew_plunk | and yes it is a new stack | 17:38 |
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| therve | Let me retry | 17:38 |
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| therve | andrew_plunk, But do you understand the different approach? | 17:38 |
| therve | Your patch tries to fix the issue too late IMHO | 17:38 |
| andrew_plunk | agreed therve | 17:38 |
| andrew_plunk | let me review your patch again. I am unfamiliar with the environment code so I did not have a lot of context | 17:39 |
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| therve | andrew_plunk, http://paste.openstack.org/show/73274/ is the template I used | 17:41 |
| therve | I just worked for me | 17:41 |
| therve | It just worked for me | 17:42 |
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| andrew_plunk | I will try it out | 17:43 |
| therve | andrew_plunk, I guess what your patch does is fixing old broken stacks | 17:43 |
| therve | IE if they are already stored in the database | 17:43 |
| therve | So maybe we can complement them | 17:43 |
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| andrew_plunk | ok therve. I could have sworn that it was failing on the new stack that I was trying to create, however I may have been wrong | 17:44 |
| andrew_plunk | I will try again with an empty db, and then remove my -1 if it works | 17:44 |
| therve | Cool thanks | 17:44 |
| andrew_plunk | thank you | 17:44 |
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| andrew_plunk | therve: you were right, it worked with the empty database | 17:54 |
| therve | Sweet :) | 17:55 |
| therve | andrew_plunk, We can keep both patches I guess. If you add a test to yours :) | 17:55 |
| andrew_plunk | sure think therve. I will do that now | 17:55 |
| andrew_plunk | thanks! | 17:55 |
| therve | andrew_plunk, You can use pop(..., None), too | 17:55 |
| andrew_plunk | good point therve | 17:57 |
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| mspreitz | Has anybody here exercised OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup on a nested stack with a OS::Neutron::PoolMember? | 17:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Output warnings for deprecated commands https://review.openstack.org/80034 | 18:01 |
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| radix | can someone say how many hours there are until the heat meeting? :) | 18:17 |
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| shardy | radix: about 2.7 :) | 18:19 |
| shardy | duh, I mean 1.7! | 18:19 |
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| radix | hehe, ok :) | 18:21 |
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| mspreitz | Has anybody here tested OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup with OS::Neutron::PoolMember? | 18:58 |
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| randallburt | stupid time change. | 19:02 |
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| lifeless | radix: mspreitz: carrying on here :) | 21:00 |
| lifeless | 9:54 < radix> SpamapS: so that they can temporarily remove a node from a load balancer when the node is being e.g. resized | 21:00 |
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| mspreitz | thanks | 21:00 |
| lifeless | radix: specifically what I'm getting at is that resize (which heat knows about) is a special case of 'the service on that node is doing something other than being a service *right now*' | 21:00 |
| lifeless | radix: e.g. for non golden image cases it might be doing its nightly apt-cron run and restarting stuff | 21:00 |
| zaneb | lifeless: but if we know it's going to happen, there's no sense waiting for requests to start timing out | 21:01 |
| lifeless | zaneb: why would they start timing out ? | 21:01 |
| mspreitz | zaneb: yes, but that's a load balancer feature not an orchestration feature | 21:02 |
| lifeless | zaneb: the service on the node gets warned, it shuts down its listening port, finishes servicing active connections | 21:02 |
| SpamapS | I tend to agree with radix and zaneb here. It can be as simple as touch /var/www/html/shutting-down-ignore-me-lb.txt | 21:02 |
| lifeless | zaneb: then signals to heat to continue | 21:02 |
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| zaneb | maybe resize is not a good example here | 21:02 |
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| lifeless | zaneb: at no point are established http connections mistreated. | 21:02 |
| SpamapS | err sorry | 21:02 |
| mspreitz | radix: not sure I understand your thought about VolumeConnection | 21:02 |
| SpamapS | I tend to agree with lifeless ;) | 21:02 |
| radix | SpamapS: I'm talking about something completely different :) | 21:02 |
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| radix | I was suggesting *resource* notifications. | 21:02 |
| radix | not instance notifications | 21:02 |
| radix | though instance notifications are also cool | 21:02 |
| * zaneb is no longer sure what we're talking about | 21:02 | |
| SpamapS | Right like telling the LB to take the node out of the list | 21:02 |
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| radix | yeah | 21:03 |
| lifeless | radix: yes, but your motivation for it doesn't make sense to me :> | 21:03 |
| SpamapS | is there another use case? because as lifeless is suggesting... you can do that by making your server fail health checks. | 21:03 |
| lifeless | radix: but as zaneb says resize/rebuild might not be a good example, | 21:03 |
| radix | ok, maybe it's not | 21:03 |
| radix | I just wanted to make sure my suggestion was made clear :) | 21:03 |
| mspreitz | please do | 21:03 |
| lifeless | radix: let me repoeat it back to you - load balancers should know if a backend they had in rotation is not there anymore | 21:03 |
| mspreitz | what's this about VolumeConnection? | 21:03 |
| radix | mspreitz: lemme make sure I have the resource name... | 21:04 |
| mspreitz | yeah, I think it's different | 21:04 |
| mspreitz | but I think I know what you mean | 21:04 |
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| mspreitz | I know which resource type you mean | 21:04 |
| radix | it's probably not a good example either :) | 21:04 |
| mspreitz | but what's the scenario where it needs a resource notification? | 21:05 |
| radix | i was just thinking of other non-server, server-dependent resources | 21:05 |
| radix | if it's generally agreed that PoolMember shouldn't need to care, then I think we should just drop ti | 21:06 |
| radix | it* | 21:06 |
| mspreitz | I reserve the right to remember a good use case later | 21:06 |
| radix | :) | 21:06 |
| mspreitz | OK, I've gotta go now. | 21:07 |
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| radix | randallburt1: grats :) | 21:18 |
| randallburt1 | radix: ? | 21:19 |
| radix | randallburt1: I see that there's a public product announcement :) | 21:19 |
| randallburt1 | radix: its not public ;) | 21:20 |
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| randallburt | or I didn't think it would be. | 21:20 |
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| radix | yep, pretty sure it is | 21:21 |
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| stevebaker | radix: it will be when you post the link here (please) | 21:21 |
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| radix | haha, well no I'm nervous :) | 21:21 |
| radix | now* | 21:22 |
| radix | http://www.rackspace.com/blog/ -> latest posts | 21:22 |
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| zaneb | http://www.rackspace.com/blog/cloud-orchestration-automating-deployments-of-full-stack-configurations/ | 21:23 |
| zaneb | appears to be public :) | 21:23 |
| stevebaker | nice | 21:23 |
| DandyPandy | Don't break my stuff. | 21:24 |
| radix | haha | 21:24 |
| shardy | nice! | 21:24 |
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| sdake_ | radix randallburt and other rackers, grats on getting Heat in :) | 21:27 |
| randallburt | well, that was a little earlier than I expected but thanks! | 21:27 |
| andrew_plunk | thank you :) | 21:27 |
| sdake_ | for some reason I thought heat was already in production | 21:29 |
| zaneb | https://github.com/rackspace-orchestration-templates/ <- this looks pretty cool too | 21:29 |
| radix | sdake_: sshhh | 21:29 |
| zaneb | sdake_: it wasn't supported | 21:29 |
| radix | whoah, nice, a minecraft template | 21:30 |
| andrew_plunk | we have used that one for testing a lot radix ;) | 21:30 |
| radix | need to add one for quake servers :) | 21:30 |
| radix | hehe :) | 21:30 |
| stevebaker | The link was to https://github.com/rackspace-orchestration-templates/sample-templates <- quite minimal | 21:31 |
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| * stevebaker really wishes minecraft scales to multiple hosts | 21:33 | |
| stevebaker | *that* would be a demo | 21:33 |
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| radix | stevebaker: you know, it would probably parallelize really well | 21:42 |
| radix | for any case where you're using a lot of memory (because players are in disparate locations in the world), it could be parallelized to run the simulation on different hosts | 21:42 |
| stevebaker | radix: apparently not, unless you do one world per server, with portals between them | 21:42 |
| radix | well, yes, I'm just talking about the problem, not the implementation | 21:43 |
| radix | the minecraft multiplayer server is notoriously poorly implemented | 21:43 |
| radix | brb, heading home from the cafe | 21:43 |
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| sdake | zaneb those templates look pretty cool | 22:01 |
| sdake | my kids would like the minecraft one :) | 22:02 |
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| radix | zaneb: whaaat | 22:07 |
| sdake | andrew_plunk re those templates, they are based upon https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/chef-solo-resource | 22:08 |
| sdake | would be nice to port them to software config | 22:08 |
| sdake | since chef-solo review expired | 22:09 |
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| stevebaker | andrew_plunk1: or at the very least rename the resource from OS::Heat | 22:12 |
| andrew_plunk1 | I think the long term goal is to port to software config | 22:13 |
| zaneb | in other news: http://blog.docker.io/2014/03/docker-will-be-in-openstack-icehouse/ | 22:13 |
| andrew_plunk1 | stevebaker, what would be the preferred name? I have been making a lot of changes to chefsolo resource and plan to re-submit it to contrib | 22:14 |
| andrew_plunk1 | within the next couple days in fact | 22:14 |
| zaneb | is anybody else uncomfortable with seeing the sentence "Our plugin for Heat has been accepted into OpenStack and will be in the Icehouse release." in association with something in /contrib? | 22:14 |
| stevebaker | andrew_plunk1: writing a chef hook should be pretty easy. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70639/ is a puppet hook | 22:14 |
| andrew_plunk1 | does that require an in instance agent stevebaker? | 22:15 |
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| stevebaker | andrew_plunk1: it requires os-collect-config, os-refresh-config and os-apply-config, which may well be a non-starter for rackspace images | 22:15 |
| stevebaker | andrew_plunk1: they are tiny | 22:16 |
| sdake | zaneb holeey shit | 22:16 |
| sdake | The preferred mechanism orchestrating Docker in OpenStack is via Heat, rather than treating Docker as a form of hypervisor in OpenStack Nova. | 22:17 |
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| andrew_plunk1 | That is what I thought. So the long term goal is to get this to get chef to work with software config stevebaker, which I am fine with signing up for. However in instance agents are going to be a long term fix for us atm | 22:17 |
| zaneb | sdake: it is odd, sounds like they are giving up | 22:17 |
| sdake | they got kicked out of nova | 22:17 |
| zaneb | it needs keystone integration to be useful | 22:17 |
| sdake | it was pretty contentious | 22:17 |
| zaneb | I went to the design summit session | 22:17 |
| stevebaker | andrew_plunk1: what agent are you using? A hook just takes json on stdin and prints json to stdout. So if your agent is already polling cfn metadata then it wouldn't be hard to get working. Or are you just doing boot-only config with cloud-init? | 22:18 |
| zaneb | and it was agreed to explore a separate container API | 22:18 |
| sdake | the reason they got kicked out of nova was cI issues not implementation | 22:18 |
| andrew_plunk1 | stevebaker, this resource is agentless over ssh | 22:18 |
| stevebaker | andrew_plunk1: yeek ;) that could be made to work. You will of course go to hell ;) | 22:19 |
| andrew_plunk1 | we download the chef omnibus installer and execute it on the spun up instance over ssh | 22:19 |
| andrew_plunk1 | haha stevebaker, it is a short term fix to our problem of needing chef imo | 22:20 |
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| andrew_plunk1 | If I sign up for chef support in software config, how would you feel about me trying to get this into contrib? | 22:20 |
| andrew_plunk1 | stevebaker^^ | 22:20 |
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| stevebaker | andrew_plunk1: if you write a standard chef hook that works like the others, then I would be OK with something in contrib which lets you execute the hook agentless | 22:22 |
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| andrew_plunk1 | ok stevebaker, that sounds like a good compromise to me. I am in a meeting atm, but can I circle back with you later to talk about this later? | 22:22 |
| stevebaker | andrew_plunk1: ok, because the other hooks should be able to use the same agentless technique | 22:23 |
| andrew_plunk1 | great point stevebaker | 22:23 |
| andrew_plunk1 | ttyl | 22:23 |
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| zaneb | sdake: I submitted a comment, wonder if they'll post it ;) | 22:30 |
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| sdake_ | zaneb what was yoru comment | 22:37 |
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| sdake_ | \o/ bitcoin miner is here, time to print more money! | 22:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Debugging aide for bug 1291097 https://review.openstack.org/80103 | 22:43 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: questions | 22:48 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: answers | 22:48 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: so the way I'm reading resources.software_config.software_deployer ... | 22:49 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: if I want to signal and wait for response to DELETE, I'm signalling and waiting for delete of the deployer.. | 22:49 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: correct? | 22:50 |
| SpamapS | or rather, if I want to wait for the signal before I complete teh delete? | 22:50 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: I don't see anywhere that the server which the deployer is attached to is informed of the deployer.. which is what I need for the rebuild and delete cases.. | 22:51 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: a deployment which runs in action DELETE will create a derived config that has the DELETE workload, and then stay in DELETE IN_PROGRESS until a signal is received from the server with the results of the config execution | 22:52 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: right, I think I understand that, but that is the deployer DELETE IN_PROGRESS, not the server. | 22:52 |
| sdake_ | zaneb note the graphic on the docker page says OS::Heat::Docker | 22:52 |
| sdake_ | I don't think that is accurate, last I lookced it was DockerInc::Docker::Container | 22:53 |
| sdake_ | OS::Heat implies something entirely different | 22:53 |
| SpamapS | agreed, contrib should not ever have OS::* in it | 22:54 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: shutdown for rebuild and reboot are weird, because its a stack update, the dependencies are in create order (not reversed delete order) so it might not be easy to use the deployment resource state. Rather than doing this with deployment resources in the template, you could make deployment API calls directly in your server subclass, something like an ephemeral deployment for the duration of the shutdown | 22:56 |
| sdake_ | SpamapS I left an update on their blog so they comprehend :) - in the codebase, its dockerinc::docker::container | 22:56 |
| radix | sdake_: the example template too, not just the graphic... | 22:57 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: ah right, that does make sense. I was thinking I'd add it to an explicit deployer. | 22:57 |
| radix | yeah, it is definitely not OS::Heat::Docker, I'm not sure where they're getting that | 22:57 |
| sdake_ | radix probably just a ocmmunication error between marketdroids and e3ngineering :) | 22:58 |
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| radix | yeah :) | 22:58 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: so you have a config in your template, some properties on the server to specify the config for shutdown actions, and make deployment crud calls in Server handle_update tasks | 22:58 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: heh.. I recall the deployers being used because we didn't want to list config objects in-line .. :) | 22:59 |
| SpamapS | right on ok I have a clear plan now | 22:59 |
| SpamapS | back into the cone of silence | 22:59 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: true, but rebuild/reboot is special | 23:00 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: and actually you can use config without deployment for boot config | 23:00 |
| SpamapS | right | 23:00 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: both of those statements are true indeed :) | 23:00 |
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| SpamapS | I think we have a bug in Heat | 23:10 |
| SpamapS | | 529b9c99-fd73-4bc0-960e-566959f5da59 | overcloud-NovaCompute0-crmbaavu54w7 | ACTIVE | - | Running | ctlplane=192.0.2.7 | | 23:10 |
| SpamapS | | NovaCompute0 | 476a1caa-6b47-4e43-b938-e33fda1212b4 | state changed | CREATE_IN_PROGRESS | 2014-03-12T22:44:32Z | | 23:10 |
| SpamapS | | NovaCompute0 | f72d80de-6193-452d-977d-0858fe39bd8a | state changed | CREATE_COMPLETE | 2014-03-12T23:02:33Z | | 23:11 |
| SpamapS | Oh wait ok.. | 23:11 |
| SpamapS | n/m | 23:11 |
| SpamapS | NovaCompute0Config is not creating yet... but it deps on notCompute0 .. n/m | 23:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Debugging aide for bug #1291061 https://review.openstack.org/80114 | 23:29 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: Hi so I'm having trouble seeing how to use deployment in templates. Do you have some example templates stuffed somewhere? | 23:36 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: since I need to emulate it. :) | 23:36 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat-templates+branch:master+topic:bug/1291097,n,z | 23:36 |
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| stevebaker | SpamapS: each have an example template | 23:37 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: ty | 23:37 |
| asalkeld | zaneb, yes that docker template is a toy | 23:38 |
| asalkeld | expecting users to implement/manage their own nova effectively | 23:38 |
| zaneb | I guess they're trying to make the best out of being kicked out of Nova | 23:39 |
| asalkeld | no scaling | 23:39 |
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| asalkeld | well they welcome to submit a docker service template | 23:39 |
| asalkeld | that scales | 23:40 |
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| asalkeld | and you can use get_resource, instead of that endpoint | 23:40 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: ahh I had missed user_data_format: SOFTWARE_CONFIG in my internals reading.. much sense, so answers | 23:40 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: this is really nice btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70297/8/hot/software-config/example-script-template.yaml | 23:41 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: there will be docs one day | 23:43 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: ahhahahahahahahaa .. good one ;) | 23:43 |
| stevebaker | I know, *sigh* | 23:43 |
| lifeless | 'docs' | 23:43 |
| SpamapS | oh wait, we're really doing docs now? ;) | 23:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Gregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/heat: Catch NotFound exception on user delete_key https://review.openstack.org/80116 | 23:44 |
| stevebaker | if you vote for my talk I'll *have* to write docs | 23:44 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: 'live reading of the heat user manual ' ? | 23:45 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: in raw docbook | 23:46 |
| SpamapS | Call me Heat.... | 23:47 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: does signal_transport: HEAT_SIGNAL only exist in theory? | 23:49 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: CFN_SIGNAL and HEAT_SIGNAL are both broken for me currently due to auth issues, but I expect CFN_SIGNAL to be working again next, followed by HEAT_SIGNAL | 23:50 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: what implements HEAT_SIGNAL? python-heatclient ? | 23:51 |
| SpamapS | or have things been landing in o-c-c without my knowledge? :) | 23:51 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: yes, heat resource-signal <stack> <resource> -D "{...}" | 23:51 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: my orc script is doing the signalling https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79758/3/hot/software-config/elements/heat-config/os-refresh-config/configure.d/55-heat-config | 23:52 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: I'm more curious about the polling than the signalling. | 23:52 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: I'll write an occ collector for metadata polling when things are less broken | 23:52 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: excellent.. just trying to make reasonably pragmatic choices while trying to stand this strawman up. | 23:53 |
| SpamapS | well.. strawman isn't the right word. :-P | 23:53 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: currently pragmatic==cfn | 23:53 |
| SpamapS | anyway .. -> back to the cone of silence | 23:53 |
| SpamapS | and by silence I mean HBR1.com trance stream and no IRC :) | 23:54 |
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| lifeless | heh | 23:55 |
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