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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Document software config classes https://review.openstack.org/81407 | 00:51 |
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| stevebaker | SpamapS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80116/ is ready for review | 01:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhang Yang proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add documentation to the firewall properties https://review.openstack.org/77840 | 03:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make sure NetworkInterfaces and SubnetId updatable https://review.openstack.org/80209 | 04:34 |
| cmyster | morning | 04:34 |
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| mattoliverau | Good afternoon cmyster (feels wierd saying morning when for me it isn't) :P | 04:38 |
| cmyster | lies! its morning! ;) | 04:39 |
| cmyster | way too morningy... 6:40 here | 04:39 |
| mattoliverau | wow, yeah, that's horribly morningy! Go back to bed :P It's 3:40PM here, so not too long left in the day for me :) | 04:40 |
| mattoliverau | But hey do you want the winning lotto numbers, that's how timezones work right.. I'm really in the future :P | 04:41 |
| cmyster | mattoliverau: kid wakes up at 5 am anyway, and this way I can leave work early to help with him... | 04:42 |
| cmyster | plus no traffic++ | 04:42 |
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| mattoliverau | Ahh, totally makes sense, your just being a good partner and parent ;) If I had a kid and could get out of bed in the morning I'd do the same :) | 04:43 |
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| cmyster | thanks mattoliverau, sorry long coffee break | 05:47 |
| cmyster | also, anyone here ever tried to create an OS::Nova::KeyPair resource ? | 05:48 |
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| mattoliverau | cmyster: no probs. I haven't personally sorry (KeyPair). | 06:16 |
| mattoliverau | I could try and see what happens. But that will have to be a future matt endevour as I need to go get dinner organised before the wife gets home :) | 06:18 |
| cmyster | no worries, I have and imo its buggy, just wanted a 2nd verification on that | 06:19 |
| cmyster | might be two bugs or its just the one, I need some further investigation | 06:20 |
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| cmyster | in | 08:04 |
| cmyster | oops | 08:04 |
| cmyster | in OS::Nova::KeyPair, the docs say: save_private_key - True if the system should remember a generated private key; False otherwise. | 08:05 |
| cmyster | so if True, after deleting the stack, should the key be available ? | 08:05 |
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| DaveJ__ | Hi guys, I'm looking for a bit of help with the heat horizon plugin. Anyone work on it ? | 16:15 |
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| mspreitz | what is the preferred way to write a string literal that would otherwise overflow the line length limit? | 19:01 |
| sdake_ | top posting sure makes it hard to follow this murano pl thread | 19:01 |
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| sdake_ | zaneb just to get a handle on your position, you believe we should add imperative features to hot? | 19:02 |
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| zaneb | sdake_: no | 19:03 |
| zaneb | but I think we should add hooks into the workflow | 19:03 |
| sdake_ | workflow imo requires imperative state reocrding and conditions | 19:03 |
| zaneb | similar to the AWS Custom resource | 19:03 |
| sdake_ | is it true to state you suggested we have only one dsl? | 19:03 |
| zaneb | sdake_: I'm not talking about adding a workflow | 19:03 |
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| sdake_ | ok, the murano guys want to jam workflow and alm into the HOT | 19:04 |
| sdake_ | this would be the same imo to jamming that into heat | 19:04 |
| zaneb | well, they don't want to jam it into HOT/Heat afaict | 19:04 |
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| zaneb | they did earlier, and we all agreed that it would be a bad idea | 19:05 |
| sdake_ | so i just wanted to make sure sure I wasn't creazeefish | 19:05 |
| sdake_ | well they agreed jamming into heat was bad | 19:05 |
| sdake_ | but now they want to talk about expanding hot | 19:05 |
| gokrokve | hi. | 19:05 |
| sdake_ | and you seemed to imply we shoudl only have one language for everything | 19:05 |
| zaneb | they don't seem to see a middle ground between 'jam everything into HOT' and 'write a completely different language' | 19:05 |
| gokrokve | sdake_: We don't want extend a HOT. We are fine to sit above HOT and use it when necessary. | 19:06 |
| zaneb | I'm saying we need HOT + Mistral + glue | 19:06 |
| sdake_ | zaneb i think your point there is subtle and should be expanded upon :) | 19:06 |
| sdake_ | ok that sounds good | 19:06 |
| gokrokve | Will it be ok to have something more advanced then just Yaml for a glue layer? It might be necessary to support some conditions for glue operations. | 19:07 |
| sdake_ | i tink realistically a new language is needed of some type | 19:07 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: converting tripleo-heat-templates to use OS::Heat::StructuredConfig .. it is going well.. but wow did we build up a lot of debt! | 19:08 |
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| zaneb | gokrokve: y'all managed to implement a Turing complete programming language in YAML, so I'm not sure that's an obstacle ;) But yeah, the main thing is that it's easy to use, not that it's YAML | 19:08 |
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| SpamapS | +1 | 19:09 |
| gokrokve | zaneb: True. We did this to solve specific issues. We are fine to do this in another way which will satisfy all projects. | 19:09 |
| zaneb | gokrokve: won't Mistral need to support the conditional stuff already? | 19:10 |
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| gokrokve | zaneb: They plan to do this. | 19:10 |
| sdake_ | I have perhaps a dummy q, where did the idea of jamming this stuff into hot come from? | 19:10 |
| gokrokve | sdake_: It was on TC meeting. That was not stated as is but the whole point was that there is an intersections with Heat and we need to align. | 19:11 |
| zaneb | sdake_: I thought it came from you ;) | 19:11 |
| sdake_ | zaneb NO | 19:11 |
| SpamapS | Heat's job ends when there are branches in logic to express, IMO. | 19:11 |
| sdake_ | agree spamaps | 19:11 |
| SpamapS | Heat expresses a graph. | 19:12 |
| sdake_ | anything with logical steps that need conditionals is by definition an imperative language :) | 19:12 |
| zaneb | SpamapS: I like that | 19:12 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: yeah, its possible shadower might be available to help on that soon, and I was wondering if I should propose a tripleo design summit session to break down the plan for fully moving the templates to HOT | 19:12 |
| gokrokve | SpamapS: It does this very well. We like Heat for that and use it in all applications. | 19:12 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: Oh, they may be moved to HOT by the time the summit happens. ;) | 19:12 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: upside risk! | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | :) | 19:13 |
| gokrokve | I think the real question is how other services should use Heat. | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: right now just trying to do as little as possible to switch to config resources.. it's working well.. but it is so structural it probably has to land all as one giant commit. :-P | 19:13 |
| gokrokve | App catalog need to use application definitions to render UI and glue them. | 19:14 |
| gokrokve | It does that before Heat template is generated. | 19:14 |
| sdake_ | gokrove is murano irunnable via devstack integratoin? | 19:14 |
| gokrokve | So we need some definition language (declarative or imperative) to do this. | 19:14 |
| gokrokve | sdake_: Yes | 19:14 |
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| sdake_ | maybe i'll give it a go when i have some free time | 19:14 |
| sdake_ | which i wnt for awhiel :( | 19:15 |
| SpamapS | gokrokve: "application definition" sounds _really_ broad in scope. | 19:15 |
| gokrokve | https://github.com/stackforge/murano-deployment/tree/master/devstack-scripts | 19:15 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: are you doing a minimal thing like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72533/ or a more radical re-org? | 19:15 |
| sdake_ | gokrove a declearative language doesn't have conditionsals | 19:15 |
| gokrokve | sdake_: Sure. That is why we use imperative approach. | 19:15 |
| sdake_ | makes sense to me | 19:16 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: so that's kind of how I started .. but then on trying to test it.. I have ended up having to switch everything else that gets merged in as well. | 19:16 |
| sdake_ | i dont see what the pushback is about having two langugages that do two different jobs | 19:16 |
| zaneb | UI is the least interesting feature of Murano for me | 19:16 |
| gokrokve | sdake_: I just don't want to cross the path of Mistral as it also has conditions. | 19:16 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: at least you don't have to port to HOT in the same hit | 19:16 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: YES! Thank you for that. | 19:16 |
| gokrokve | zaneb: UI is the most important part of Catalog as it actually what user uses. All other stuff is less exposed to end-user. | 19:17 |
| SpamapS | gokrokve: Haven't you heard? "Content is king" | 19:17 |
| zaneb | gokrokve: catalog UI, yes. GUI to allow project managers to drag around boxes to create applications out of bits of other applications and pretend they understand what they're doing... yawn. | 19:18 |
| stevebaker | gokrokve: hey, could you point me at some typical Windows murano applications? I want to think about how heat software-config can support powershell | 19:18 |
| gokrokve | zaneb: You will be surprised how much customers want exactly this. | 19:19 |
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| zaneb | gokrokve: I actually wouldn't, but I'm still not interested ;) | 19:19 |
| gokrokve | stevebaker: The most hard stuff we have in Murano is MS SQL cluster. | 19:20 |
| SpamapS | gokrokve: I wouldn't be surprised. I would be surprised if they actually make money with it if the content is a brand new language that is hard to maintain. | 19:20 |
| gokrokve | stevebaker: https://github.com/stackforge/murano-repository/blob/master/muranorepository/Services/msSqlClusterServer-manifest.yaml | 19:21 |
| stevebaker | gokrokve: nice, thanks | 19:21 |
| gokrokve | stevebaker: All resources referenced here are in Services/<resource> folders | 19:21 |
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| gokrokve | SpamapS: Murano DSL is not that hard. It has a pretty limited number of functions you can use and all of them are very task specific. | 19:23 |
| stevebaker | gokrokve: what would I have to do to get a bootable windows image? | 19:23 |
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| gokrokve | SpamapS: We have customers who are evaluating new DSL and as they actually has a lot of puppet and chef recipes to do actual work on VM side, they able to create new apps in hours. | 19:23 |
| zaneb | Interesting problems: | 19:24 |
| gokrokve | stevebaker: You should have windows image in glance. | 19:24 |
| zaneb | 1) I want an application to run on any cloud, where I don't know e.g. the flavours available. I want to choose one based on a set of constraints, rather than hard-coding | 19:25 |
| gokrokve | stevebaker: Right now we expect to have clean windows 2012\2008R2 windows image. | 19:25 |
| stevebaker | gokrokve: I was meaning the steps before glance | 19:25 |
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| zaneb | hi spzala ;) | 19:25 |
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| stevebaker | gokrokve: how about this? http://www.cloudbase.it/ws2012r2/ | 19:26 |
| zaneb | 2) I have an application that needs to be accessible on a particular port from outside the firewall. I want to just say that and have the details of how all the security groups are set up generated for me | 19:26 |
| gokrokve | stevebaker: Yes we use this image. But we actually install murano agent in addition. It can be injected by cloud-init though. | 19:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refined schema for VPCZoneIdentifier https://review.openstack.org/81605 | 19:27 |
| stevebaker | gokrokve: ok, that makes sense | 19:27 |
| zaneb | 3) How can I integrate a Heat stack with a workflow. e.g. build a disk image for a stack before starting it | 19:27 |
| gokrokve | stevebaker: https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/8/80/Murano-admin-guide.pdf Section 3. Image Builder | 19:29 |
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| DaveJ__ | Guys I was wondering is it possible to call the select_template form and pass the template URL as a parameter in the GET request ? | 19:30 |
| DaveJ__ | Talking about the 'Stacks' panel in horizon BTW | 19:30 |
| stevebaker | DaveJ__: in a GET request to horizon? | 19:31 |
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| SpamapS | zaneb: I'm increasingly convinced we should have ephemeral instances as a thing in Heat (so it exists until all of its' dependent resources are CREATE_COMPLETE and then it is deleted. | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: that would serve the image build case.. and also some big-data cases. | 19:32 |
| zaneb | SpamapS: I'm increasingly convinced that could be a 3-line workflow ;) | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | it is, but expressed in Heat as a single resource. | 19:34 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS, zaneb, how about ephemeral nested stacks which delete themselves when all its resources are CREATE_COMPLETE? That could be more general and useful | 19:35 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: right, kind of the same thing | 19:35 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: Heat hides the common workflows :) | 19:35 |
| stevebaker | and the nested stacks would generally be one server with a bunch of configs and deployments | 19:35 |
| mspreitz | Question from left field: are we yet into the freeze on strings that need translation? | 19:37 |
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| DaveJ__ | stevebaker: Yes - I have a custom panel with a table, that lists a bunch of stack templates from a web server. I'm trying to add a launch button to the table, so that it will call the select_template form passing the URL for the template. | 19:38 |
| stevebaker | mspreitz: in theory yes. Is there anywhere we can look to see what our translation coverage actually is? | 19:38 |
| stevebaker | DaveJ__: It sounds like a good idea, but you'll need to propose it to the horizon folk. Or propose it by implementing it ;) | 19:40 |
| mspreitz | stevebaker: oh snap, I need new strings to improve the schema doc for the AWS AutoScalingGroup | 19:40 |
| mspreitz | stevebaker: I guess you are saying to not sweat the translation | 19:41 |
| stevebaker | mspreitz: I've been assuming our translation coverage is low so am OK with brand new strings, but we should have a freeze on tweaking existing strings | 19:41 |
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| mspreitz | stevebaker: got it, thanks | 19:41 |
| mspreitz | stevebaker: then again, maybe not... | 19:41 |
| mspreitz | So I changed one string and added another | 19:41 |
| DaveJ__ | stevebaker: Yep well i've started implementing. Just trying to find out if it was already possible to pass parameters to the form in a GET request. Looks like it reads all data from a POST currently. I'll ask the horizon guys if they know an easy way to access URL parameters | 19:41 |
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| mspreitz | stevebaker: I guess I could hack this by restoring the string I changed and put all the new information in the string I introduced | 19:42 |
| stevebaker | mspreitz: the current string isn't particularly helpful, lets bikeshed it in the review | 19:43 |
| mspreitz | stevebaker: OK | 19:43 |
| stevebaker | mspreitz: interesting https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/heat/ | 19:45 |
| mspreitz | stevebaker: OMG | 19:46 |
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| stevebaker | 43% coverage on Australian English? bonza! | 19:47 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: OATH | 19:47 |
| stevebaker | streuth | 19:48 |
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| stevebaker | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZdT1g5WAk4 | 19:56 |
| stevebaker | and I'm done | 19:56 |
| zaneb | rofl | 19:56 |
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| sdake_ | stevebaker little known fact, traniflex came out of fedora - the peeps that started it started a company around it :) | 20:36 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 21:00 |
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| therve | stevebaker, If we're not doing oslo.messaging in icehouse, we should revert d54d0d1e20f1409f8bdea26276d187af1747c54c | 21:02 |
| therve | To fix #1290565 | 21:02 |
| stevebaker | therve: or do something better to catch all the exceptions | 21:02 |
| therve | I'm not sure we have that luxury at that point | 21:03 |
| stevebaker | therve: I'm fairly sure anything that extends HeatException could be triggered by a determined user | 21:03 |
| therve | stevebaker, Well, that'd be a bug :) | 21:04 |
| stevebaker | therve: its all malformed template stuff | 21:04 |
| therve | But (re)fixing the common errors would be a nice first step | 21:04 |
| sdake | therve I did try a few days ago to work on a patch to fix that problem | 21:04 |
| sdake | therve but it wasn't working and I got pulld into something else | 21:04 |
| sdake | I'll get back to it this week | 21:05 |
| therve | I'd be surprised if there was an easy solution that could be done in a week | 21:05 |
| sdake | the basic idea is to look at the super,a nd if its HeatException, it ignores the exception | 21:05 |
| sdake | therve it is rather trivial | 21:05 |
| sdake | its just that my python code is not parsing properly :( | 21:05 |
| therve | sdake: Doesn't that hide real errors though? | 21:05 |
| stevebaker | sdake: rc1 gets cut next week as soon as the worm reaches the bottom http://old-wiki.openstack.org/rc/ | 21:05 |
| sdake | therve all heat exceptions are user exceptions | 21:05 |
| sdake | therve other types of exceptions wont be hidden | 21:06 |
| sdake | stevebaker understood | 21:06 |
| therve | Hum, okay | 21:06 |
| stevebaker | therve: take a look at what extends HeatException | 21:06 |
| sdake | stevebaker I'll reach out to zaneb for a bit of help since I got stuck on the python part | 21:06 |
| sdake | therve barring actually fixing the problem, I'll submit a revert patch | 21:07 |
| zaneb | GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE | 21:07 |
| zaneb | I think I have a fix for Bug #1291411 | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1291411 in heat "get_param is not working with stack-update" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291411 | 21:07 |
| therve | sdake: NotFound is not one of them though | 21:07 |
| sdake | therve good point | 21:07 |
| zaneb | now I have to write a test to prove it :/ | 21:07 |
| therve | zaneb, Tempest test? :) | 21:07 |
| * sdake giggles at zaneb | 21:08 | |
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| sdake | therve I hadn't thought of that, I'll sort out a solution for that | 21:08 |
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| stevebaker | API docs for software config https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81629/ | 21:10 |
| sdake | stevebaker what is your definition of when an API should go to version 2.0? | 21:11 |
| stevebaker | sdake: when we make a change that isn't backwards compatible | 21:12 |
| sdake | ok wfm | 21:12 |
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| sdake | although I think folks may find it confusing using v1 apis on something thatdoesn't implement the v1 api | 21:12 |
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| stevebaker | sdake: they will realise when they get a 404 ;) | 21:12 |
| sdake | 404 = fkkkkk | 21:12 |
| sdake | i think we should figure out what other projects do here and follow their concepts | 21:13 |
| sdake | maybe we are already doing that | 21:13 |
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| sdake | stevebaker that patch looks good except all the extra whitespaceisms | 21:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeff Peeler proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Add template for separated node/broker OpenShift https://review.openstack.org/81632 | 21:18 |
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| stevebaker | they often achieve the same thing with "optional" extensions which become permanent | 21:20 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: theoretically this is a canonical example of when you should go to v1.1 | 21:24 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: but would that mean changing the root url to v1_1? | 21:25 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: I believe so. keystone catalog should take care of it | 21:26 |
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| sdake | it is too late imo to do anything about it now | 21:27 |
| sdake | but in the future, we should keep it in mind :) | 21:27 |
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| zaneb | yeah, it's not really a big deal because in practice you only use it with these resources, which you won't have if you don't have the API | 21:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refined schema for VPCZoneIdentifier https://review.openstack.org/81638 | 21:34 |
| sdake | zaneb agree | 21:35 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: hm.. so one thing I'm running into is that I have a ton of separate deployers... | 21:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeff Peeler proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Add template for separated node/broker OpenShift https://review.openstack.org/81632 | 21:41 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: but I really just want one "done with everything" wait condition that they can all share... | 21:41 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: something to think about for the future. I can iterate over all of them now.. but it seems wasteful as I don't really care so much about the individual workloads as I do about all the workloads on a server being ready. | 21:42 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: you could aggregate a single config into a multipart-mime config, but os-collect-config would need to know how to unpack that. That would leave you with a single deployment for that config | 21:43 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: ahh, that's probably a good long term way to handle it | 21:43 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: you could always just wait on the last deployment to know when it is all done | 21:43 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: I wait for the stack to be complete. | 21:44 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: or if the server + deployments are all in a resource provider, just wait for that resource to be complete | 21:44 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: so I'd have to figure out 1) which one is going to be last.. | 21:44 |
| SpamapS | actually just 1 | 21:44 |
| SpamapS | anyway sounds like there are ways to get it down to one already | 21:44 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: quite nice deleteing all the explicit users and keys though :) | 21:45 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72533/3/undercloud-bm-source.yaml .. is 'get_input' the right thing to use still? | 21:48 |
| sdake | wow the top posting is killing me on this murano pl thread | 21:48 |
| sdake | damages the context of the thought sharing | 21:48 |
| sdake | I'm glad we train top posting out of Red Hatters when they enter the company :) | 21:49 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: get_input yes | 21:49 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: mmk. I find myself doing a lot of changing Ref to get_input.. | 21:49 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: you could set the default value in the config inputs instead of the deployment input_values, maybe for parameters. It would be a matter of personal preference | 21:51 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: yeah, still getting a feel for it | 21:51 |
| SpamapS | also seeing where having each bit have its own config object is going to be really nice.. | 21:51 |
| SpamapS | so I'm not configuring ceilometer in NovaComputeConfig .. | 21:51 |
| stevebaker | I'm currently playing with defining different environment files which swap out config resources to do different things | 21:53 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: did we add a native way to do template snippet includes? | 21:57 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: or do I still need my merge.py method for that? | 21:58 |
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| stevebaker | SpamapS: get_file will only insert chunks of text, so I think the answer is no | 21:58 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: Ok.. yeah I knew get_file was not quite right. I think we need an include_file. | 21:58 |
| SpamapS | Because it would be pre-parse. | 21:58 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: I've been thinking a new top-level section which specifies what to import from other templates, but lets not get distracted with that right now | 21:59 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: Yeah.. just seeing duplication and cringing :-P | 22:01 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: almost ready to push a diff | 22:01 |
| SpamapS | Lot of busy work just shuffling things around | 22:01 |
| sdake | boy this surefire flashlight rocks | 22:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Jenkins proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/76689 | 22:03 |
| SpamapS | signs that you need convenience functions: you see things like this repeated in code: ]}]]} | 22:04 |
| SpamapS | neutron_local_ip: {Fn::Select: [ 0, Fn::Select: [ ctlplane, { Fn::GetAtt: [ NovaCompute0, networks ]}]]} | 22:04 |
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| stevebaker | SpamapS: get_attr: [NovaCompute0, networks, ctlplane, 0] | 22:05 |
| stevebaker | not so painful :) | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: doesn't work in cfn ;) | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | or at least, I assume it doesn't | 22:05 |
| stevebaker | no, but your example is only a temporary problem | 22:06 |
| SpamapS | yeah | 22:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jenkins proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/76698 | 22:10 |
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| sdake_ | zaneb can you look at a patch tomorrow that I am having a bit of trouble with | 22:20 |
| zaneb | sdake_: sure. I may even be able to look today | 22:20 |
| sdake_ | zaneb Ineed to hunt it down on my hd, so I can't show you today | 22:20 |
| zaneb | ok, np | 22:21 |
| sdake_ | but I may have time to look later today | 22:21 |
| sdake_ | i may have even lost it in my recent fedora reload on my laptop :( | 22:22 |
| sdake_ | but it took like 30 minutes to write | 22:22 |
| sdake_ | in which case, I can just write it again:) | 22:22 |
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| sdake_ | zaneb just wanted to confirm, the oslo-incubator fix is merged upstream? | 22:35 |
| sdake_ | the generator problem | 22:35 |
| zaneb | sdake_: no, not yet | 22:35 |
| sdake_ | cool - let me know when it is | 22:35 |
| sdake_ | I have trouble staying on top of my jenkins folder | 22:35 |
| zaneb | turns out the original problem in Nova/keystoneclient needs to be solved first | 22:36 |
| sdake_ | there is like 500 emails a day in there | 22:36 |
| zaneb | otherwise there is no solution that works for both Nova and us | 22:36 |
| sdake_ | so we may have to carry a fork? | 22:36 |
| zaneb | I have proposed patches for that now too | 22:36 |
| sdake_ | cool | 22:36 |
| sdake_ | no fork sounds good :) | 22:36 |
| zaneb | sdake_: just sync to the last good version | 22:36 |
| sdake_ | zaneb cool well I'm not in a hurry since j1 is months out :) | 22:37 |
| zaneb | before Nova folks "fixed" it ;) | 22:37 |
| sdake_ | fixed is such a subjective term :) | 22:37 |
| sdake_ | "hey guys I added usleep(1) to the driver, now it works like a champ!" | 22:37 |
| sdake_ | 8 years ago when I worked on the kernel... | 22:38 |
| sdake_ | it was frightning at how many sleeps there were in the code base for tihs purpose :) | 22:38 |
| zaneb | that is frightening | 22:39 |
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| sdake_ | i'm sure its fixed now :) | 22:39 |
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| mspreitz | Chicken and egg problem: I want to unit test my change before I use DevStack to install with it, but unit testing requires system dependencies only installed by DevStack. What to do? | 23:57 |
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| mspreitz | stevebaker: how do you solve that? | 23:58 |
| sdake_ | mspreitz normally you have devstack installed and update your test cases/code in the instlaled repo | 23:59 |
| sdake_ | then ctrl-c and restart the app by pressing up arrow | 23:59 |
| sdake_ | screen -r | 23:59 |
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