Monday, 2014-04-07

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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow for stack users in _authorize_stack_user  https://review.openstack.org/8404700:27
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Ensure parameter timeout_mins available in update  https://review.openstack.org/7621100:36
openstackgerritBartosz Górski proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix timeout for stack actions  https://review.openstack.org/7790200:37
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openstackgerritMatthew Oliver proposed a change to openstack/heat: Standalone heat can't specify a region  https://review.openstack.org/8366903:08
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openstackgerritMatthew Oliver proposed a change to openstack/heat: Standalone heat can't specify a region  https://review.openstack.org/8366903:34
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Process provider templates for included files  https://review.openstack.org/8260303:46
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cmystermorning03:56
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mattoliveraumorning cmyster04:29
cmysterhey04:29
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow for stack users in _authorize_stack_user  https://review.openstack.org/8404704:56
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skraynevMorning!05:29
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cmysterhey05:33
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openstackgerritMike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refined schema for VPCZoneIdentifier  https://review.openstack.org/8172705:41
therve'morning!05:46
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mattoliverauMorning skraynev and therve05:57
skraynevhi mattoliverau05:58
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mattoliverauskraynev: Welcome to Monday, I hope you had a good weekend :)06:00
skraynevmattoliverau: thanks, it was good weekend ;)06:01
skraynevmattoliverau: what about your weekend? :)06:03
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mattoliverauskraynev: Mine was great, my sister-in-law got married, so alot of celebrating, and in daylight saving ending so got an extra hours sleep to help recover from said wedding. So perfect timing :)06:05
mattoliveraus/and in/and in Australia/06:05
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skraynevmattoliverau: Ou. my congratulations with so important event! and agree extra hours for sleeping is very nice bonus ;)06:09
openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8395706:10
mattoliverauskraynev: Thank you muchly :)06:15
* cmyster has heard about that 'sleep' thing before...06:15
mattoliveraucmyster: have you not tried it? :P06:16
cmysternot for a very long time now06:16
cmyster(babies++)06:16
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cmysterand later people wonder why I write such poor code ;)06:17
mattoliverauahh right... so you wont for a very long time then, and they say the average age a kid moves out is 30.. so no sleep for you :P06:17
cmysternah, when the little one permits his dad to sleep for more then 6h (with 2-3 breaks) a night...06:18
mattoliveraucmyster: not bad.. are you adding a little whisky to the bottle ;P06:25
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openstackgerritLiang Chen proposed a change to openstack/heat: Replace str with six.text_type  https://review.openstack.org/8195606:29
openstackgerritLiang Chen proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enable lazy translation in unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/7579806:29
openstackgerritLiang Chen proposed a change to openstack/heat: sync oslo.db to bring in fixes to message handling  https://review.openstack.org/7579906:29
openstackgerritLiang Chen proposed a change to openstack/heat: Avoid referencing Message.__str__ in exceptions  https://review.openstack.org/7579606:29
openstackgerritLiang Chen proposed a change to openstack/heat: Replace str with six.text_type in tests  https://review.openstack.org/7579706:29
openstackgerritLiang Chen proposed a change to openstack/heat: Re-enable lazy translation  https://review.openstack.org/7580006:29
openstackgerritLiang Chen proposed a change to openstack/heat: Tidy up urlfetch.py exception handling  https://review.openstack.org/8196006:29
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pas-hamorning :)06:51
mattoliveraumorning pas-ha06:52
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add handle_update to VolumeAttachment  https://review.openstack.org/7268107:00
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mattoliverauHave a great rest of your monday folks, it's time to call it a day on this side of the world. I'm off to cook dinner before the wife comes home :)07:09
shardymorning all07:13
chmouelhello07:15
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Trove Resource Update  https://review.openstack.org/6053208:51
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GoneriI understand it's not possible to create Glance/Cinder image from Heat and we can only consume such ressources. Is there any plan to be able to use heat to create Glance images/Cinder volumes first?09:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix timeout for stack actions  https://review.openstack.org/7790209:45
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pas-haGoneri: AFAIU available images to boot from are prerogative of cloud operator, so generally users a better not allowed to create their arbitrary images09:51
pas-habut cinder volumes you can create for sure - OS::Cinder::Volume and AWS::EC2::Volume09:52
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Goneripas-ha: hi, indeed for OS::Cinder::Volume. thanks.09:54
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shardyGoneri: Actually I was looking at creating something like an OS::Glance::ImageUploader resource10:17
shardywhich would allow template defined images to be uploaded to glance10:17
shardyin general though, it's mostly expected that the image would be an input parameter to the template10:18
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* cmyster has a bash script for that, but its not the same10:57
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Catch exception during resolving outputs  https://review.openstack.org/8568611:01
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adding error message for output description  https://review.openstack.org/8568711:01
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adding validation algorithm for get attr functions  https://review.openstack.org/8248811:05
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Gonerishardy: ah! that's would be very interesting :)11:24
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pas-haquestion on stack updates - is the complete "updated" template stored somewhere in the stack while update is running and not yet finished?11:57
shardypas-ha: No, the update template is only stored after the update completes11:58
shardypas-ha: there is significant work planned around storing the intermediate state during updates, to allow retry of updates after failure11:58
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pas-hathat's bad.. it seems that in order to cancel a running update and not leave orphaned resources in the cloud one would need to use an actual update code "updated" -> "before update"11:59
shardypas-ha: Yeah, cancelling an in-progress update is another related problem we need to solve12:00
shardypas-ha: note we do support rollback, so you can automatically revert to the "before update" template on failure12:01
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yassineHiya all o/12:22
yassineIn general, is the AWS  security group resource compatible with the heat native resources ? Can i mix it ?12:22
therveyassine, Doh sorry I forgot about you12:24
therveyassine, In theory yes. Why? Are you having issues? Why can't you use the native resource?12:25
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pas-hashardy: yes, that's what Ive tried, but somehow if I use it with "1 instance" -> "2 instances" -> "cancel" the stack does have only one instance after cancel, but there is an orphan instance left in the cloud12:26
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yassinetherve: Well, I want to use a security group resource, according to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide there is the Neutron and the EC2 one12:28
yassinetherve: but i'm using nova network..12:28
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therveyassine, What is it 2013? :)12:29
therveyassine, Yeah you should be able to use the AWS one for nova network12:29
yassinetherve: haha, i picked a random one12:30
yassinetherve: okay, thanks for the info :)12:30
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Allow for stack users in _authorize_stack_user  https://review.openstack.org/8404714:02
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therveshardy, Will you have some time to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76539/ ?14:08
therveI'd like to do a full oslo sync soon enough14:08
shardytherve: looking14:08
therveThanks :)14:09
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shardytherve: I thought there was a full oslo sync patch posted a few weeks back14:10
* shardy tries to find it14:11
therveshardy, Maybe yeah. That sounds like a bad though14:14
therveWe're too much behind for doing a full sync in a go IMHO14:14
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shardytherve: Ok, I don't really mind if it's several commits but I agree we need to get a full sync done soon, even if it's done incrementally14:15
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therveshardy, There are several incompatibilities that we need to take care of14:15
thervehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/84985/ is another one14:15
shardytherve: yup, saw that one earlier14:16
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andersonvomgood morning, folks!14:29
shardytherve: looks OK, just one question14:30
shardyhi andersonvom14:30
therveyes?14:31
shardytherve: I added a comment to the review re the get_session wrapper14:32
therveok will cool14:32
thervelook14:32
andersonvomshardy: hey, is there a way of identifying if a resource is a nested stack through the API?14:32
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andersonvomrather, if a stack has nested stacks14:32
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shardyandersonvom: hmm, I don't think so, other than indirectly by doing a stack lookup by id of all the resource id's14:34
andersonvomshardy: yeah... that's what I thought. Is this the intended way of using them, though?14:35
shardyandersonvom: weell, I think the intention is you shouldn't care if a resource is a nested stack, only I can see you might want to provide a way to introspect nested stack resources in a way that's not possible for resource plugins (e.g via a topology view with multiple layers)14:36
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andersonvomshardy: so, it's not that I would like to _know_ if a stack has nested stacks, but for instance, I have a resource_group with multiple web servers in it, and I would like to see information about all of them14:39
shardyandersonvom: Yeah, so that's already possible, but you need to know that ResourceGroup is a nested stack, so you know the ID can be used to introspect the underlying stack14:40
shardyandersonvom: maybe we do need some resource attribute which indicates the id can be used to recurse into another stack14:41
shardyor some sort of relational link to the underlying resource14:41
andersonvomshardy: I was about to ask you about that! :)14:41
shardyandersonvom: I'm not sure what the interface should look like, but I can see why it might be useful :)14:41
andersonvomI think it would be valuable to have that14:41
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andersonvomshardy: great. we'll think about it a little bit and try to come up with a BP for that.14:43
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shardyandersonvom: good plan.  I was looking at the keystone API, where they have a "links" key, which provides a url to the resource14:44
therveshardy, The late import seems inevitable14:45
shardymaybe that would be one way to go, so you just follow the link to the underlying stack14:45
therveThere is a fairly explicit cycle dependency14:45
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shardytherve: Ok, it's just a bit confusing having get_session defined in two places14:52
therveyeah14:52
therveI can create a 3rd module14:53
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Sync latest oslo.db code  https://review.openstack.org/7653914:59
andersonvomshardy: humm... the resources already have a "links" attribute with links to the resource itself and the stack to which it belongs15:00
andersonvomshardy: we could just add more links like { "rel": "nested", "href": "http://..." }15:01
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shardyandersonvom: so they do!  I hadn't noticed that as it's not visible via the cli15:02
shardyandersonvom: yeah, we already have "rel": "self" and "rel": "stack" so "rel": "nested" sounds reasonable to me15:03
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shardyThe only thing is I think we need some additional information exposed via the engine RPC API to do that15:03
andersonvomshardy: what do you mean?15:05
shardyandersonvom: the links are constructed in the API, so we're back to the original problem of not knowing when a resource ID points to a nested stack15:05
andersonvomshardy: oh... I see15:06
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed a change to openstack/heat: Sync latest oslo.db code  https://review.openstack.org/7653915:11
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed a change to openstack/heat: Sync latest oslo.db code  https://review.openstack.org/7653915:29
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openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move some template validation to Template class  https://review.openstack.org/8398416:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Remove security group egress rules  https://review.openstack.org/8542516:40
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Secure private repo files added to environment  https://review.openstack.org/8542616:40
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adding validation algorithm for get attr functions  https://review.openstack.org/8248816:54
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Remove use of py3kcompat  https://review.openstack.org/8498516:57
therveSweet16:58
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thervesdake: Hi, you around? Wanted to know the status of the oslo.messaging work17:19
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Ensure outputs are resolved for adopted stacks  https://review.openstack.org/8576417:35
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openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add link to a resource's nested stack  https://review.openstack.org/8578118:25
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sdaketherve hi18:34
sdaketherve oslo.messaging was about ready to roll when i stopped work on it in i318:35
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sdakei was blocked by the ocnfig generator18:35
openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add save_admin_pass property to CloudServer  https://review.openstack.org/7948118:36
openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add admin_pass as attribute to CloudServer  https://review.openstack.org/7274518:36
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zanebsdake: no reason to be blocked any more, it's borked with or without the oslo sync ;)18:42
sdakeyup explaining why it was blocked at the time18:43
sdakei guess i should have ungated the tree18:43
sdakenow its mostly cleanup work bunch of test cases need fixing18:43
sdaketherve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72798/18:45
openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS:Barbican:Order resource  https://review.openstack.org/8190618:47
openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS:Barbican:Verification resource  https://review.openstack.org/8360718:47
openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS:Barbican:Secret resource  https://review.openstack.org/7935518:47
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Order imports in alphabetical order (5/9)  https://review.openstack.org/7151518:55
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thervesdake: Do you need a hand moving it forward?19:03
sdaketherve nope19:04
sdaketherve i've got it - why need it asap?19:04
sdakeI was hoping the backports of the ha fixes would land first19:05
therveha fixes? in oslo.messaging itself you mean?19:05
sdaketherve if you want to fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84612/19:05
sdakethat would be nice :)19:05
sdakei definately plan to have it merged in j1 - probably next week or two19:06
therveWell  1) I don't like patches roting 2) This might be an invasive change that we should have early 3) I'm interested in notification, which are way nicer using oslo.messaging19:06
sdake(oslo.messaging)19:06
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sdaketherve yup i'll make sure to get back to it19:07
therveThat'd be awesome19:07
sdakefor a long time i stopped becauser o fthe config generator gate and then the freeze19:07
thervesdake: Also yeah I want to sync oslo incubator so that'd be cool if we didn't have rpc to sync :)19:07
sdakebut now those are all open or undone so i'm able to work on it again19:07
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sdaketherve if you could fix that review above I'd appreciate it19:07
sdakethe cat wants to sync all rpc19:07
sdakei just want him to sync the two cherrypicked changes19:07
sdakeso they can easily go into our stable branch19:08
thervesdake: What's to fix?19:08
sdakeread review should be obvious19:08
sdakeit needs to be done for rc2 I think19:08
sdakeSteven DakeApr 419:09
sdakePatch Set 3:19:09
sdakeoslo.messaging is coming in Juno-1, so there is no strong motivator to syncing oslo-incubator/rpc. In order to do a per-change cherry-pick to the stable branch, it is necessary for the master branch to have the cherry-picks available. -2 is staying on this change until the changes are cherry picked.19:09
sdakeRegards -steve19:09
therveAh cherry picks in master to do it in stable branch got it19:09
sdakewe could cherry pick to stable from oslo-incubator bu tthat seems a bit impure :)19:09
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Cherry pick oslo rpc HA fixes  https://review.openstack.org/8579119:19
thervesdake; ^^19:20
openstackgerritRichard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add link to a resource's nested stack  https://review.openstack.org/8578119:21
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Order imports in alphabetical order (9/9)  https://review.openstack.org/8536119:31
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sdake_therve looks good thanks !20:12
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8581821:08
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8348721:15
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Rackspace::Server::SSHWaitCondition resource  https://review.openstack.org/8538621:21
openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Don't use SSH in Rackspace::Cloud::Server  https://review.openstack.org/8321821:21
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8348721:26
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sdakebitcoin miner down to 45$ a day = sadface21:42
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sdakezaneb can you apply your thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84468/3/doc/source/template_guide/hot_spec.rst line 842 at a minimum but overall is good too :)21:51
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update status section to indicate HOT is supported  https://review.openstack.org/8561021:56
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mattoliverauMorning all22:15
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sdake_stevebaker can you undo -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75796/722:47
openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update contrib docstrings to match guidelines  https://review.openstack.org/7307022:47
sdake_(it was a freeze -2)22:47
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openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update api docstrings to match guidelines  https://review.openstack.org/7351522:52
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stevebakersdake_: unDone22:55
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openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update common docstrings to match guidelines  https://review.openstack.org/7351922:59
stevebakerhere is a review for an RC2 bug https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83442/23:04
stevebakerand another https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85764/23:04
sdake_looking23:04
stevebakerand another https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72681/23:04
zanebsdake_: done23:06
sdake_stevebaker those all look good23:08
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sdake_zaneb thanks23:16
sdake_so I think working together in gerrit is a whole lot faster for this sort of thing :)23:16
sdake_but if folks want to stat out with bps in teh future we can do that too23:16
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SpamapSIMO bp's are just a way to group etherpads and bugs together. :)23:17
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sdake_I guess an etherpad woudl work for this too23:18
sdake_but it looses review comments which are very useful23:18
sdake_loses that is23:18
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stevebakerwe could do what nova does, which insist that blueprint specs go into a blueprint repo and are subject to gerrit reviews23:28
sdake_I got impression tc was not fond of that23:30
sdake_but I like the approach :)23:31
sdake_I'm not sure if the abilit yto coordinate thoughts on a blueprint is a probelm across heat, or just for the hot spec23:31
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-cfntools: Support building wheels (PEP-427)  https://review.openstack.org/7185723:32
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-cfntools: Switch over to mox3  https://review.openstack.org/8239023:53
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