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ramishra | asalkeld: Hello Angus | 02:45 |
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asalkeld | hi ramishra | 02:47 |
ramishra | asalkeld: have a few mins, wanted to talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94780/ | 02:47 |
asalkeld | sure | 02:48 |
ramishra | asalkeld: sorry could not respond to your comments earlier.. Did u have a chance to see my comment this morning? | 02:49 |
asalkeld | so ramishra that line is a nasty workaround | 02:49 |
asalkeld | comma delimited list is a string "normally" | 02:49 |
asalkeld | we should really assume that | 02:49 |
asalkeld | we should stick to the api really | 02:50 |
ramishra | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/parameters.py#L303 does not suggest it's a String.. rather a python list | 02:50 |
asalkeld | that is saying " if it is already a list, then bail out" | 02:51 |
ramishra | else it converts it to a list.. value.split(',') returns a python list | 02:51 |
asalkeld | so the input is normally a string | 02:52 |
asalkeld | the output is a list | 02:53 |
ramishra | input can be string or a list and output is a list | 02:53 |
asalkeld | you use it like "flb, farst, foo" | 02:53 |
asalkeld | ramishra, the input should really only be a string | 02:53 |
asalkeld | not sure why that if list: return is there | 02:54 |
ramishra | does that mastter, what the input is... it stores it as a list..right | 02:54 |
ramishra | mastter/matter | 02:54 |
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asalkeld | well, in the template you specify "commadelemitedlist" but something else comes in | 02:55 |
asalkeld | so you "as the template writer" use fn:split | 02:55 |
asalkeld | and bam, it breaks | 02:55 |
ramishra | When we say it is commadelimitedlist, IMO, it's expecting a list as per the way CommaDelimitedList is defines...Why should we use Fn:Split which is a string function | 02:57 |
asalkeld | because it's a sting of comma delimited values? | 02:58 |
ramishra | the basic confusion is whether it is string or a list.. if we expect CommaDelimitedList to be a string, we should change it in parameter.py and leave it to the template author to convert it themselves.. | 03:01 |
asalkeld | ramishra, I think you are getting confused about why it's converting | 03:02 |
asalkeld | it's converting to list for the convience of the python code in heat | 03:02 |
asalkeld | not for the convience of a provider template | 03:02 |
asalkeld | it's so in heat/engine/resources/*.py every plugin does not have to call split() | 03:03 |
asalkeld | this is a bit of an "odd" case as it gets passed into a template | 03:03 |
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asalkeld | and it starts out life as a list (property) and then needs to go into a commadelimited list | 03:04 |
asalkeld | the template writer needs to be sure of what is comming in | 03:04 |
asalkeld | it really doese need to be a string | 03:04 |
ramishra | for me it's very confusing when we say it's a string but its represented as a list/stored as a list for convenience... | 03:05 |
ramishra | then we should change parameter.py so it becomes simple... | 03:05 |
asalkeld | well then each resource will have to convert | 03:05 |
asalkeld | (which is a pain) | 03:06 |
openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS::Glance::Image resource https://review.openstack.org/90976 | 03:06 |
asalkeld | it's not that complicated:) | 03:06 |
asalkeld | but it is a motivation to eventually make properties and parameter types the same | 03:07 |
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asalkeld | but list += commadelimited list | 03:07 |
asalkeld | oops | 03:07 |
asalkeld | but list != commadelimited list | 03:07 |
ramishra | hmm.. IMO, then we should really change parameter.py.. it's not about being complicated, but would induce bugs like this this in the future | 03:09 |
asalkeld | ramishra, sure - I'd worry a bit about plugins that are not in-tree | 03:11 |
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asalkeld | that assumed a list was returned but now they got a sting | 03:12 |
asalkeld | (string) | 03:12 |
asalkeld | ramishra, right now a comment could be a start | 03:12 |
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ramishra | asalkeld: based on the implementation I assumed that commadelimitedlist is a list that has the ability to parse a string with values punctuated by commas. anyway, what I can understand from you is different, it's designed to be a string | 03:21 |
asalkeld | ramishra, yeah - most importantly it's what the template writer expects | 03:22 |
ramishra | asalkeld: so how do you think we can fix this bug, fix the template the way I have done or look at fixing the code? | 03:22 |
asalkeld | how is the template writer going to test to see if it is a list or a string | 03:22 |
asalkeld | let me look at the bug | 03:23 |
asalkeld | ramishra, the dimensions should be converted here: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/template_resource.py#L125 | 03:26 |
asalkeld | add some logs and see what is happening to them | 03:27 |
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ramishra | asalkeld: they are converted by child_params()... However, the issue is they are converted back as I mentioned in the comment... with the master I can see this issue with all the parameters defined as commadelimitedlists.. | 03:30 |
asalkeld | sorry ramishra, I was been dense :( | 03:32 |
asalkeld | yes, we need to prevent that last conversion back to list | 03:32 |
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ramishra | Is it is the assumption that all cases a commadelimitedlist is a string and the template writer has to split it.. I am worried that if we fix that in parser.py this would break some of the existing templates | 03:35 |
ramishra | anyway, will have a look | 03:35 |
ramishra | and try it.. | 03:35 |
asalkeld | cool | 03:35 |
asalkeld | so just to clarify : | 03:36 |
asalkeld | without provider templates | 03:36 |
ramishra | I still think we should fix parameter.py, it's very confusing and prone to bugs at the moment | 03:36 |
asalkeld | when ever we refernce a commadelimited parameter value in a template it returns a list | 03:37 |
asalkeld | instead of a string | 03:37 |
asalkeld | because of that conversion in parameters.py | 03:37 |
ramishra | yes | 03:38 |
asalkeld | ramishra, I think you are right - that is *the* fix | 03:38 |
asalkeld | it should do the split just to validate | 03:38 |
asalkeld | but not convert | 03:38 |
asalkeld | that is a little scary that has been in there so long | 03:39 |
asalkeld | but to me that is the root cause of the issue | 03:39 |
ramishra | this can accept lists all types and flattens them to strings.. | 03:39 |
ramishra | assuming that it's a string:) | 03:40 |
asalkeld | commadelimted list should only accept strings | 03:40 |
asalkeld | and keep them as stings | 03:40 |
ramishra | then the heavy lifting of their conversion is left to the template writer | 03:40 |
asalkeld | yeah | 03:40 |
asalkeld | this will probably need a release note | 03:41 |
asalkeld | :-O | 03:41 |
ramishra | :) | 03:41 |
asalkeld | stevebaker, you might want to look at this too ^ | 03:42 |
asalkeld | (scrollback) | 03:42 |
ramishra | so, if you say it only accepts strings..in case of provider template, the template writer have to convert any property to string and then pass as parameter | 03:43 |
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asalkeld | sure, (this really sucks) | 03:43 |
asalkeld | it sucks because parameters don't have a proper list | 03:44 |
openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Client should support stack-list for global scope https://review.openstack.org/94794 | 03:44 |
asalkeld | (maybe HOT does have one now) | 03:44 |
stevebaker | read the backscroll, now reading the review | 03:45 |
asalkeld | stevebaker, basically we need to change commadelimited list to NOT convert the input into a list | 03:46 |
asalkeld | which is risky but correct IMO | 03:46 |
asalkeld | if you {Ref: commadelimitedlist} you get back a python list | 03:47 |
asalkeld | instead of a string | 03:47 |
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stevebaker | I would expect to get a list | 03:48 |
asalkeld | why when it's defined as a string seperated by "," | 03:48 |
asalkeld | that's what "Fn:Split" is made for | 03:48 |
stevebaker | just like I would expect to get a typed number even if the number was passed in as a string | 03:49 |
stevebaker | to me, strings go into params because that is all CLIs can do, and useful typed values come out | 03:50 |
asalkeld | stevebaker, we are talking about within the template | 03:50 |
stevebaker | you mean property->param mapping? | 03:50 |
asalkeld | yeah | 03:51 |
asalkeld | but more generally | 03:51 |
asalkeld | if you are in a template (template writer) what type do you expect when you refer to it | 03:52 |
tiantian | stevebaker: would you please to review a patch about migrate to glanceclient to get image id : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94021/ Thanks. | 03:52 |
asalkeld | I'd expect things like fn:select to understand a comma delimited list | 03:52 |
asalkeld | but I'd still expect a string | 03:52 |
asalkeld | we should refer to cfn docs | 03:52 |
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asalkeld | ramishra, I might be wrong | 03:58 |
asalkeld | we need to double check cfn docs as well | 03:58 |
asalkeld | zaneb, you about? | 04:00 |
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ramishra | I have checked it.. it refers to it as a list item "CidrBlock": { "Fn::Select" : [ "0", {"Ref": "DbSubnetIpBlocks"} ] } | 04:02 |
asalkeld | ramishra, ok - I'll remove my -1 | 04:02 |
stevebaker | asalkeld: I think I'd prefer real structures being passed internally rather than strings which may or may not carry extra behaviours | 04:03 |
asalkeld | stevebaker, I am not stressed about the internals | 04:04 |
asalkeld | but what the public structure should be | 04:04 |
asalkeld | when you {Ref: commadelimitedlist} what exactly do you get back | 04:04 |
asalkeld | and what makes sense to get back | 04:05 |
asalkeld | atm it's a list | 04:05 |
asalkeld | I'd honestly expect a string delimited by commas | 04:05 |
stevebaker | I'd say a list. And Refing a Json should be a dict (or list, or string, depending on the contents of the json) | 04:05 |
asalkeld | well, it's a list now | 04:06 |
asalkeld | and it would be scary to change | 04:06 |
stevebaker | probably Json should be used instead of CommaDelimitedList in many of these cases anyway | 04:06 |
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asalkeld | stevebaker, it can't be as it's a cfn resource | 04:07 |
asalkeld | not our api to change | 04:07 |
stevebaker | right | 04:07 |
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asalkeld | I wrote that provider template | 04:08 |
asalkeld | so it's basically a bug in my understanding of what is returned | 04:08 |
asalkeld | I expect a type will return the type that it claims to be | 04:09 |
asalkeld | (call me crazy) | 04:09 |
stevebaker | what does cfn do? | 04:10 |
asalkeld | it's not clear to me | 04:10 |
asalkeld | fn:select handles a commadelimited list | 04:11 |
asalkeld | but not sure if it just understands both or commadelimited list converts to a list | 04:12 |
asalkeld | ramishra, sorry if my confusion has wasted your time | 04:12 |
stevebaker | need to take son to karate | 04:12 |
ramishra | asalkeld: np.. it's a learning for me.. as I get deep into the codebase | 04:13 |
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ramishra | asalkeld: I did not expect this to generate so much discussion though:) thanks | 04:15 |
asalkeld | well, it just highlighted my misunderstanding | 04:16 |
asalkeld | :-" | 04:16 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Client should support stack-list for global scope https://review.openstack.org/94794 | 04:59 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Migrate to glanceclient to get image id https://review.openstack.org/94021 | 05:11 |
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cmyster | morning | 05:48 |
cmyster | stevebaker: any slight chance you are still here ? | 05:48 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/89750 | 06:02 |
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aniket | goodmorning all :) | 06:15 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement FloatingIPAssociation resource updatable https://review.openstack.org/93273 | 06:28 |
openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement NovaFloatingIpAssociation res updatable https://review.openstack.org/93389 | 06:29 |
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skraynev | Morning all | 06:31 |
openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Migrate to glanceclient to get image id https://review.openstack.org/94021 | 06:32 |
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aniket | <skraynev> i have launch a stack with autoscaling template and it is completed sucessfully,but i am unable to ping outside world from instance...any idea about this?? | 06:46 |
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skraynev | aniket: may be your vm with openstack deployment has not access too ? | 06:48 |
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therve | Good morning! | 06:48 |
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skraynev | therve: morning ;) | 06:48 |
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aniket | <skraynev> should i make changes in /etc/resolv.conf? | 06:49 |
cmyster | morning | 06:49 |
skraynev | aniket: from other side: if you boot instance without heat (just using nova), can you ping outside world ? | 06:50 |
cmyster | aniket: depends, I wasn't here but if you use dhcp then this file gets overwritten next time it runs | 06:50 |
skraynev | aniket: if you can not, so will be better to ask this question on openstack-dev | 06:51 |
aniket | <skraynev> i boot an instance without heat,but i am not able to ping outside world | 06:52 |
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skraynev | aniket: so, it's problem that is not related with heat. and better place for your question is openstack-dev. | 06:53 |
skraynev | aniket: I suppose, it will be more useful :) | 06:53 |
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aniket | <cmyster> https://paste.lugons.org/show/rVLMdnSU3qxzOhbiwinb/ this is my /etc/network/interfaces file | 06:56 |
aniket | <skraynev> ok..thanks :) | 06:57 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Making new attribute Schema mandatory https://review.openstack.org/89553 | 06:57 |
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cmyster | aniket: again, I wan't here from the begining, I don't know what your issue is, but acording to the configuration file you pasted here, everytime your network interface will start, it will get its settings from dhcp, thus changing /etc/resolve.conf is futile as dhcp overwrites whatever is inside. | 07:00 |
aniket | <skraynev> one more query, my system is of 8gb ram with 32bit ubuntu 12.04 LTS on it...i have fedora 86_64 bit image..and my loadbalancer.py file contains same image...but with this configuration i am not able to launch a stack sucessfully...is this a problem regarding my ubuntu version?? | 07:00 |
mattoliverau | night all | 07:02 |
cmyster | aniket: 32bit hosts cannot and will not run 64b guests | 07:02 |
cmyster | nn mattoliverau | 07:02 |
cmyster | morning shardy | 07:03 |
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pas-ha | morning all | 07:03 |
cmyster | mornin pas-ha | 07:04 |
aniket | <cmyster> but when i launch a single instance with Fedora-x86_64-20-20131211.1-sda image,it is running sucessfully | 07:04 |
cmyster | a 64b image on a 32b host? | 07:05 |
aniket | yes | 07:05 |
cmyster | some CPU magic then, sorry I was unaware such things are possible. | 07:06 |
skraynev | aniket: I agree with cmyster - it sounds strange, AFAIK - it's impossible to launch 64 bit image on 32 bit system | 07:07 |
cmyster | skraynev: I'm googeling its voodoo to me | 07:07 |
cmyster | skraynev: well... http://www.sysprobs.com/64bit-guest-os-32bit-host-os-vmware | 07:08 |
cmyster | I learned something new today | 07:08 |
pas-ha | AFAIK it is possible to run 64 guest on 32 host if the underlying physical CPU actually supports 64-bit instructions and virtualization support is enabled | 07:08 |
pas-ha | have done it myself with VirtualBox running 64-bit ubuntu on 32-bit Windows | 07:09 |
cmyster | so it would seem ) | 07:10 |
cmyster | ): | 07:10 |
cmyster | ... | 07:10 |
cmyster | :) | 07:10 |
skraynev | cmyster, pas-ha: Heh. really interesting thing.:) | 07:10 |
cmyster | moar coffee... | 07:10 |
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cmyster | right | 07:11 |
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cmyster | so if it is possible (shocking!) then aniket I would suggest that you go over the configuration and see that the same CPU and virtualization settings are enabled for both images. Also, it can happen if the problematic image is being booted with kernel options that prevent it from booting in certain cases, but IIRC it will usually tell you why. | 07:13 |
cmyster | for instance if it detects that the host is 32bit it can just decide not to boot | 07:13 |
aniket | <cmyster> ok :) | 07:14 |
aniket | thankYou all | 07:15 |
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aniket | <cmyster> one more query :P | 07:17 |
cmyster | sure | 07:17 |
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aniket | i have made changes in /etc/resolv.conf.. i have added namesever 8.8.8.8 and nameserver 8.8.2.2...with this i am not able to ping google/outside world | 07:20 |
aniket | i want to install stress command so i can scale up my stack | 07:20 |
cmyster | hard to say aniket, from the link you posted earlier your nic is set up by dhcp so resolve.conf will be replaced each time. if you want to keep it a static IP, then I would suggest reading one of the many on-line guides that are relevant to the guest OS that you are running | 07:23 |
aniket | is it possible to scale up a stack with some script file containing infinite loop program,so that it can increase a memory or cpu utilization? | 07:23 |
aniket | <cmyster> but if i does not do network restart after changing resolv.conf,will it work? | 07:25 |
cmyster | aniket: should... as for the auto-scaling, there is an old tempest test that does just that | 07:26 |
aniket | ok :) | 07:26 |
aniket | thanks a lot cmyster | 07:26 |
cmyster | sure thing | 07:27 |
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skraynev | tspatzier: hey | 07:39 |
tspatzier | hi skraynev | 07:39 |
skraynev | tspatzier: do you work on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1321549 or I may take it ? | 07:39 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1321549 in heat "wrong input of number parameter will result in abnormal behavior of heat " [Medium,Incomplete] | 07:39 |
tspatzier | I am not working on it. I was waiting for updates since last week it looked like it might not be reproducible. | 07:41 |
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tspatzier | skraynev: If you have time feel free to take it. Please check if it makes sense to make it dependent on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94641 since the bug reports look somehow related. | 07:42 |
skraynev | I can now to reproduce this bug. | 07:42 |
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skraynev | skraynev: Ok. gotcha. | 07:43 |
tspatzier | skraynev: So you are taking it? | 07:43 |
aniket | <cmyster> are u thr? | 07:44 |
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cmyster | I am | 07:44 |
skraynev | tspatzier: If you do not mind ? :) | 07:44 |
tspatzier | skraynev: sure, I never mind when somebody wants to help :-) Thanks! | 07:45 |
skraynev | tspatzier: Ok, thanks :) | 07:45 |
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aniket | <cmyster> my one stack is running sucessfully with fedora 32 bit image,but when i launch anather stack with same image it throws an error | 07:46 |
aniket | <cmyster> stack1 Create Failed Resource Create Failed: Stackvalidationfailed: Property Error : Cesauzfwdca3: Imageid The Request You Have Made Requires Authentication. (Http 401) | 07:47 |
cmyster | aniket: how are you trying to launch that 2nd stack ? | 07:47 |
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aniket | through dashboard | 07:48 |
cmyster | aniket: same template and everything (minus the stack name, that must be different) | 07:49 |
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aniket | <cmyster>yes,my stack name is differnt | 07:50 |
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cmyster | aniket: what version are we talking about? how did you install the system ? | 07:51 |
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aniket | my heat version is 0.2.9.17 | 07:53 |
aniket | i installed openstack trough devstack | 07:53 |
skraynev | cmyster: *facepalm* I sometimes think, that we should add additional command for heatclient, that provide version of installed heat (not heatclient) | 07:55 |
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cmyster | skraynev: that might be prudent. write a blueprint :) | 07:58 |
aniket | <cmyster> :) :P | 07:58 |
aniket | now which command should i run? | 07:58 |
skraynev | cmyster: heh. Will do and share ;) | 07:59 |
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cmyster | aniket: sorry its hard to know, could be that the template defines the stack in such a way that it breaks something for other stacks, could be a configuration problem... could be a horizon bug | 08:00 |
cmyster | unfortunately you might need to sit on it and debug it with the logs | 08:00 |
aniket | ok :) | 08:00 |
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pas-ha | hey all. I've been trying to reduce "spam" in tests outputs. The only thing that's left is "No handlers could be found for logger 'heat.config.common'" lines popping out. | 08:12 |
pas-ha | looks like this line https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/common/config.py#L226 is responsible for those | 08:12 |
pas-ha | but I can't figure out how to silence it properly. Can anybody take a look? | 08:12 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Migrate to glanceclient to get image id https://review.openstack.org/94021 | 08:14 |
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aniket | Hi all..... | 09:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: replace dict.iteritems() with six.iteritems(dict) https://review.openstack.org/95476 | 09:47 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Migrate to glanceclient to get image id https://review.openstack.org/94021 | 09:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Bogdan Dobrelya proposed a change to openstack/heat: Sync kombu_reconnect_delay from Oslo https://review.openstack.org/95482 | 10:06 |
openstackgerrit | Bogdan Dobrelya proposed a change to openstack/heat: Sync kombu_reconnect_delay from Oslo https://review.openstack.org/95482 | 10:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: replace dict.iteritems() with six.iteritems(dict) https://review.openstack.org/95476 | 10:48 |
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aniket | Hi ......................... | 11:04 |
cmyster | hello | 11:05 |
aniket | can we launch two stack at a time ..? | 11:09 |
cmyster | not sure, but why is it needed? you can have 2x the resource in a single stack no ? | 11:12 |
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cmyster | the cli at least has no suck option. personally I have a script that does it for me for testing things, but its just a bash for loop | 11:13 |
cmyster | such* | 11:13 |
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aniket | ohh ok | 11:22 |
aniket | <cmyster> can you suggest me some way, other than stress command,to increase a stress on either memory or CPU? | 11:24 |
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cmyster | on the compute node ? | 11:42 |
cmyster | there are plenty of cli tools that does that | 11:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass the parent's registry into child stacks https://review.openstack.org/86228 | 11:51 |
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sab | can anyone explain me how this comparision work https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/scaling/template.py#L32 ? | 11:54 |
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asalkeld | sab you probably want to ask radix | 12:06 |
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sab | asalkeld, Thank you | 12:07 |
sab | radix, are you there by any chance? :) | 12:08 |
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asalkeld | he in the us, so maybe a bit later? | 12:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: replace dict.iteritems() with six.iteritems(dict) https://review.openstack.org/95476 | 12:16 |
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radix | sab... guess I'm too late | 14:35 |
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radix | it's actually a US holiday today, so I won't be around | 14:40 |
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cmyster | radix: memorial day today ? | 14:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Respect schema data type in constraint validation https://review.openstack.org/94641 | 15:36 |
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SushilKM | hello all | 16:23 |
SushilKM | needed a small help | 16:23 |
SushilKM | i was trying to update my template which had mixed content like AWS configuration as well as heat configs like OS:Nova::Server | 16:25 |
SushilKM | I was trying to switch to all heat elements | 16:25 |
SushilKM | problem i m facing is when using AWS controls to create a file i was able to use AWS::CloudFormation::Init: in metadata section | 16:25 |
SushilKM | but am not able to figure out the relevant option under heat's own elements | 16:26 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add missing VerifyAll calls to test_validate https://review.openstack.org/94933 | 17:44 |
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cmyster | stevebaker: hey, here? | 21:01 |
asalkeld | is it a US holiday today? | 21:05 |
cmyster | Memorial day IIRC | 21:05 |
asalkeld | doh | 21:06 |
asalkeld | thanks | 21:06 |
asalkeld | (joined a meeting - no one there:) | 21:06 |
cmyster | heh | 21:07 |
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cmyster | ja I was looking for US core devs to come along, I have a list of questions but... | 21:07 |
cmyster | right, nn | 21:08 |
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stevebaker | cmyster: hi | 21:13 |
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mattoliverau | Morning all | 23:05 |
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stevebaker | hi | 23:29 |
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