Friday, 2014-06-27

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bodepdI have a few questions about template reuse. I'm trying to create a single userdata script that can be reused by all servers that conform to a certain pattern00:28
bodepd(in my case, that they are using Puppet for configs)00:28
bodepdthe first thing I would like to do is to create a single template using str_replace, but one of the replaces values would be different per server00:29
bodepdie: role00:29
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bodepdthe most logical methods (for me) would be some kind of deep hash merging (or inheritence, they are kind of the same thing), or some way to attach parameters to a resource and perform a lookup00:33
bodepdI guess there is no 'self' for get_attr? (ie: look up this value from the current resource)00:33
bodepdis there a certain level of reuse complexity where you wind up just creating an erb template, and having an external script generate the heat templates?00:34
bodepds/erb/python-equiv-template/ :)00:34
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asalkeldstevebaker, re: you plugin code00:38
asalkeldshouldn't we be moving to stevedore?00:38
asalkeldseems to be entrenching the current plugin stuff, which imo we should be moving away from00:39
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asalkeldposted to review00:42
stevebakerasalkeld: its just another plugin type and doesn't really do anything special. They can all move to stevedore when someone gets around to doing that00:42
asalkeldseems like an opertunity to start using it00:43
asalkeld(easy change btw)00:43
asalkeldit's a nice lib00:43
stevebakerasalkeld: yes, but I don't want to make the series any more scary than it already is to reviewers00:44
asalkeldit wouldn't change the plugins00:44
asalkeldonly that one loader00:44
asalkeldit's not scary00:44
asalkeld~ 15 lines different?00:44
asalkeldhttps://github.com/stackforge/mistral/commit/ebf225553daae7a6f2f75780d58092eefcc69bf300:46
asalkeldadded plugin support to mistral ^00:46
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stevebakerasalkeld: I'm all for stevedore, I'd just prefer if all plugin types moved to it at the same time. Either before or after client-plugins is fine with me00:50
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asalkeld-100:51
asalkeldthat could cause big problems00:51
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asalkeldthe way the current loader mangles packages is not done in stevedore00:51
asalkeldI'd say only do that on a change to the resource api change00:52
asalkeldI think the sooner we start doing the right thing the better00:53
stevebakerasalkeld: so is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/stevedore-plugins not actually possible?00:53
asalkeldrather than making the job more difficult later00:53
asalkeldI am not sure00:54
asalkeldthe one thing that zane did was the way of renaming modules00:54
asalkeldI am not sure of how that is in stevedore00:55
asalkeldbut I am not sure why we do it and not everyone else that using stevedore00:55
asalkeldstevedore using "namespaces"00:55
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asalkeldwhich we don't00:55
asalkeldso maybe that is the answer00:56
asalkeldbut as we currently don't register our plugins under that namespace could be a problem00:56
asalkeldwhich is why I'd suggest you do it now under stevedore00:56
asalkeldto prevent more pain down the road00:56
asalkeldbrb: getting coffee00:57
stevebakerThe only time I see side-effects of the module renaming thing is when tests fail. They might convert cleanly00:58
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asalkeldstevebaker, re: resource plugins- I think we could basically add support for stevedore plugins01:07
asalkeldand migrate the intree stuff01:07
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asalkeldand keep the current loader around for a while01:07
asalkeldfor out of tree plugins01:07
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stevebakeroh, so stevedore wouldn't use resource_mapping()01:09
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asalkeldstevebaker, you would have that in the setup.cfg01:14
asalkeldstevebaker, I can give that bp a crack if no one else is busy with it01:14
tiantianmorning:)01:15
asalkeldhi tiantian01:15
asalkeldstevebaker, then maybe these two things can be done roughly at the same time01:15
stevebakerasalkeld: that is what I was thinking, whichever lands second gets to adapt01:16
asalkeldstevebaker, well they are seperate01:16
stevebakerasalkeld: since you've done it for a project already it may be quickest for you01:16
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stevebakerasalkeld: you could always start with constraints, and we could just assume there are none out-of-tree01:17
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asalkeldI guess they have only been introduced this cycle01:18
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix error count for stack-list while show deleted  https://review.openstack.org/10107801:34
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tiantianstevebaker, asalkeld: would you please to review the bp specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101133/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102139/ thanks:)01:35
stevebakertiantian: maybe later, my queue is quite long01:37
tiantianstevebaker: you have +2 yesterday, I just modify according shardy's suggestion, if you have no time, I will wait:)01:39
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stevebakertiantian: you don't need to wait for spec approval before starting the development01:43
tiantian<stevebaker>: ok:)01:44
asalkeldweren't we going to move to notifications instead of event table?01:45
asalkeldi.e totally ditch it?01:45
asalkeldand the api just calls the ceilometer api?01:46
asalkeldshrug01:46
harlowjaSpamapS have u guys talked to the stackforge/congress folks at all? the convergence engine seems similar to the active policy enforcement engine that they are thinking about01:52
harlowja*both converge on some type of template/policy and actively maintain it01:52
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support loading constraints as stevedore extensions  https://review.openstack.org/10299002:03
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asalkeldstevebaker, a quick first cut ^02:03
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stevebakerasalkeld: cool. As I discovered we have poor test coverage for checking that constraints actually work02:07
asalkeldyeah02:07
asalkeldon hassel with stevedore is you have to put the test extensions in setup.cfg too02:08
asalkeldone hassle02:08
asalkeldbut we could filter the test ones out of normal startup02:08
stevebakerasalkeld: can it discover plugins without having to declare them in setup.cfg?02:10
asalkeldnope02:10
asalkeldafaik02:10
stevebakerhrm02:10
stevebakerhow does that work for out-of-tree stevedore plugins?02:10
asalkeldeasily02:10
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asalkeldyou just have to register you class within the same namespace02:11
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Improve --debug logging output  https://review.openstack.org/10135902:13
asalkeldstevebaker, that's one of the nice things: we don't need this "plugins_dir"02:13
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asalkeldI am off to lunch: bbl02:17
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stevebakerasalkeld: oh, in each third-parties own setup.cfg?02:20
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asalkeldstevebaker, yip02:25
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Fix unicode display in parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10019102:29
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix failed to delete the EIP resource  https://review.openstack.org/10275802:33
stevebakerSpamapS: heatclient 0.2.10 is out02:39
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stevebakerhey, heat-slow is voting again!03:29
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openstackgerritZhang Yang proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Specification for filtering stacks by status for cfn API  https://review.openstack.org/10114003:41
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openstackgerritZhang Yang proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add stacklock for resource_signal  https://review.openstack.org/9032503:46
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Resolve AWS::EC2::Instance AZ output to a value if not specified  https://review.openstack.org/10302005:40
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Resolve AWS::EC2::Instance AZ output to a value if not specified  https://review.openstack.org/10302005:50
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Only support client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9868806:01
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Glance, swift use ignore_not_found()  https://review.openstack.org/10042406:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement keystone client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9798506:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement heat client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9798406:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Client plugin exception handling methods  https://review.openstack.org/10042106:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move network constraint to neutron plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10042006:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Neutron use ignore_not_found()  https://review.openstack.org/10042306:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Nova use ignore_not_found()  https://review.openstack.org/10042206:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move nova_utils functions to nova client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10178206:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Store clients in context  https://review.openstack.org/9893506:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move glance_utils functions to glance client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10041906:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove function get_software_config  https://review.openstack.org/10139606:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Cinder, trove, ceilo use ignore_not_found()  https://review.openstack.org/10139706:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement barbican client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9868406:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use config region_name_for_services for rackspace clients  https://review.openstack.org/9868606:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Port rackspace clients to client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9868706:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Deprecate direct access to clients methods  https://review.openstack.org/9797306:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make heat.engine.clients a package  https://review.openstack.org/9797406:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Base class for client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9797506:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement marconi client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9868306:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Initialise client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9797606:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement nova client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9797706:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement swift client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9797806:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement glance client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9797906:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement neutron client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9798006:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement cinder client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9798106:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement trove client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9798206:02
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement ceilometer client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9798306:02
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8975006:02
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skraynevGood morning06:28
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/9650706:31
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shardymorning all06:34
skraynevstevebaker: I have checked email and was pleasantly surprised. thx for the great chance to join the team :)06:34
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shardyskraynev: :)06:37
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skraynevshardy, yeap awesome Friday :)06:38
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stevebakerskraynev: you're welcome :)06:44
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tspatzierstevebaker: you're around?06:50
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sy01Hello, do we have conditional statements available for HOT ?06:51
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sabHi, I created an endpoint in the heat api, But I get a "Access was denied to this resource." , should something be done in policy.json?06:56
shardysy01: No, or at least not yet06:58
shardyWe also don't yet support the conditionals which AWS added to CFN templates06:58
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openstackgerritZhang Yang proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add stacklock for resource_signal  https://review.openstack.org/9032507:05
sy01shardy: You mean, these  http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSCloudFormation/latest/UserGuide/intrinsic-function-reference-conditions.html are not supported.07:08
shardysy01: that's correct - AWS added those after we implemented our CFN-compatible parser07:20
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elynnafternoon :)07:33
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support loading constraints as stevedore extensions  https://review.openstack.org/10299007:39
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support loading resources from stevedore extensions  https://review.openstack.org/10304407:39
asalkeldstevebaker, ^ not too hard07:39
sy01shardy: Ohh, so any blueprints available for this ?07:40
shardysy01: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/intrinsics07:43
sy01shardy: Thanks!07:43
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update cinderclient to latest to pass unittests  https://review.openstack.org/10304507:45
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elynnhi <skraynev>, are your there?07:48
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skraynevelynn: yes07:50
skraynevelynn: hi :)07:50
therveelynn, You can't change heat requirements, I think07:55
elynnhi skraynev08:03
elynnIt's about my patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102094/08:03
skraynevelynn, I agree with therve. The first of all this version should be updated in global requirements https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L87, after that it will be updated in heat08:04
elynntherve,  ok ,will abandon my patch :)08:04
elynnhi skraynev08:04
skraynevelynn: Yes, I saw your answer. I re-check it again.08:05
elynntherve, when does global requirement.txt update?08:06
therveelynn, When you change it?08:06
skraynevelynn: just one question: when you say all cases worked - you mean, that update passes without error or you also do nova flavor-show?08:07
elynnskraynev, yes, all pass08:07
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elynnI check with flavor-show08:07
elynncommand08:07
elynnskraynev, If you encounter a failure again, I may need more info from you :)08:08
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skraynevelynn: hm. strange. it will be useful.08:08
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elynntherve, Do I need to add a patch to global requirement?08:09
elynnOr it will automatic update to latest version?08:10
openstackgerritZhang Yang proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add stacklock for resource_signal  https://review.openstack.org/9032508:10
skraynevelynn: I suppose first variant is acceptable. (upload patch to global-requirements)08:11
elynnThx, skraynev :) again08:13
skraynevelynn: np, I did same thing for neutron-client.08:14
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support loading resources from stevedore extensions  https://review.openstack.org/10304408:19
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support loading constraints as stevedore extensions  https://review.openstack.org/10299008:19
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pas-hamorning all08:45
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tiantian<skraynev>: congratulations :)08:59
skraynevtiantian: thanks09:00
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sorantisskraynev: congrats!09:09
skraynevsorantis: thx ;)09:09
sorantishi! was user_data_format supported in havana?09:12
sorantisfor OS::Nova::Server i mean09:12
shardysorantis: no, it was new for Icehouse09:13
sorantisshardy: so if I specify an script in the user_data field will it have the RAW format by default?09:14
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shardysorantis: no, it will be formatted into a multi-part message by heat09:15
shardySo you can't control cloud-init directly without user_data_format09:15
shardysorantis: If you just want to specify a script, that should work though09:15
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sorantisshardy: I want to simulate the user_data_format: RAW behavior09:16
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shardysorantis: well some aspects of it's behavior are impossible without user_data_format=RAW, that's why we added it09:17
shardydepends on exactly what you want to do09:17
sorantisshardy: I want to pass a waitcondition trigger in my user_data09:18
sorantisbefore seeting the format to RAW my script was modified by heat09:18
sorantisso the RAW resolved this problem09:18
sorantisnow, since I need to support Havana too, I don’t have the format option anymore09:19
shardyDo you have heat-cfntools in your image?09:19
sorantisno09:20
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tiantian<skraynev>: hi, can you help me to see a problem09:45
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skraynevtiantian: hi, what kind of problem do you mean?09:45
tiantian<skraynev>: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102758/ about this patch, I test it in my local devstack, and it works, but the jenkins python27 job run failed09:46
tiantian<skraynev>: the error is: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'UnprocessableEntity'09:46
tiantian<skraynev>: about the exceptino 'UnprocessableEntity', I check the novaclient git log09:48
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skraynevtiantian: the first idea, when you can not see same problem on your environment, is not fresh code.09:50
tiantian<skraynev>: In Jan 29, there is a patch about 'Reuse exceptions from Oslo'09:51
skraynevtiantian: try to rebase on last master09:51
skraynevand re-run tests09:51
tiantian<skraynev>: it's newest09:51
skraynevtiantian: what about requirements ?09:51
skraynevthey are newest too ?09:52
tiantian<skraynev>: it's related with novaclient09:54
tiantian<skraynev>: and the novaclient is 2.17.009:54
tiantian<skraynev>: or what do you mean?09:54
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skraynevtiantian: ok, I will check it on my environment, so please wait ;)09:58
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tiantian<skraynev>: thanks, I download it again and the test run successful still09:59
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support loading resources from stevedore extensions  https://review.openstack.org/10304410:05
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tiantianasalkeld: about the patch 102990, it doesn't work still:(10:08
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skraynevtiantian: I have tested your change and got same error about AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'UnprocessableEntity'10:09
tiantian<skraynev>: the error means clients.novaclient.exceptions has no attribute 'UnprocessableEntity', right?10:11
skraynevtiantian: yeap10:11
skraynevtiantian: possibly your environment has some problems10:11
skraynevtiantian: try to download new repo and re-test it10:12
skraynevFYI, I used "tox -r"10:12
asalkeldtiantian, did you pip install -e .10:12
asalkeldit needs the entry_points in setup.cfg installed10:13
tiantian<skraynev>: but we can see this exception is in novaclient.openstack.common.apiclient.exceptions.py ?10:13
tiantian<asalkeld>: try10:13
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skraynevtiantian: possibly  yes, but I don't know why it happens.10:19
tiantian<asalkeld>: it works:)10:22
asalkeldof course it does:-)10:23
tiantian<skraynev>: I don't know too :( so want your help10:24
* skraynev find solution...10:24
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::NodeGroupTemplate resource  https://review.openstack.org/10028810:53
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement sahara client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10058810:53
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::Cluster resource  https://review.openstack.org/7233610:53
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::ClusterTemplate resource  https://review.openstack.org/10150910:53
tiantian<skraynev>: I still can find the problem:(10:54
tiantians/can /can't10:54
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tiantianduty off, bye all10:55
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Improve OS::Trove::Instance resource  https://review.openstack.org/9746010:55
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add datastore properties to OS::Trove::Instance  https://review.openstack.org/6053210:56
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add networks property to OS::Trove::Instance  https://review.openstack.org/9108810:56
skraynevtiantian: wait :)10:56
skraynevtiantian: could you try to install python-novaclient using pip and check code. It looks like this package really has not this exception.10:57
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement update of AWS::EC2::SecurityGroup  https://review.openstack.org/8854810:57
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ekarlsois it possible to do a partial stack-update ?10:59
ekarlsolike not having to specify all the parameters...10:59
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skraynevtiantian: yeap, I am right :) So in 2.17.0 version package  (which is used by pip) the 'UnprocessableEntity' is not presented in novaclient/exceptions.py and exceptions from oslo are not used yet.11:00
skraynevtiantian: I suggest you to wait new version of python-novaclient. It should fix the problem.11:01
pas-haekarlso, no, but there is a bug #1224828 for that11:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1224828 in tuskar "heat stack-update wants all parameters and the template all over again" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122482811:01
ekarlsomeh11:03
ekarlsois it possible via bindings ?11:03
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ekarlsopas-ha: is it the REST api as well that requires all parameters or just client ?11:07
pas-haIMO both11:08
pas-haHeat receives a full new template and figures the difference itself11:08
sy01This is strange. Whenever a stack creation fails. I have to manually delete the security group port binding from the db, in order to delete the failed stack.11:09
openstackgerritBernhard M. Wiedemann proposed a change to openstack/heat: Patch 044 migration to work w/ MySQL 5.6  https://review.openstack.org/10047511:18
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ekarlsopas-ha: what u think is the timeframe for that bug ?11:39
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skraynevelynn: ping11:40
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pas-haekarlso, probably not fast, as it implies changing the Heat REST API to properly process PATCH verb. but you are welcome to contribute :)11:52
ekarlsopas-ha: heh11:52
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support loading resources from stevedore extensions  https://review.openstack.org/10304412:35
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Change template loading to use stevedore extensions  https://review.openstack.org/10311312:35
asalkeldg'night12:40
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elynnHi skraynev12:53
skraynevelynn, hey, I posted my answer on review.12:54
elynnSorry for late, I'm just eating dinner.12:54
skraynevelynn: np12:54
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elynnskraynev, saw your reply, thank you for review :)12:55
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elynnAlso congratulate you to be the core member :) I will upload more patches to heat for your review in the future :)12:57
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skraynevelynn: lol12:57
ekarlsohttp://paste.openstack.org/show/85069/ < doesn't that look ok or ?12:58
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skraynevelynn: thx, but voting is still going on ;)12:58
ekarlsoI get HTTPBadRequest: ERROR: dictionary update sequence element #0 has length 1; 2 is required12:58
elynnO? But your effort is well known.13:01
ekarlsoI get HTTPBadRequest: ERROR: dictionary update sequence element #0 has length 1; 2 is required13:02
ekarlsosorry,. wrong window13:02
ekarlsobut could seriously need help on stack updaets ;)13:02
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ekarlsoelynn: u got a clue ? ; 913:09
elynnekarlso, a clue on what?13:10
ekarlsothe paste I pasted above, I get the error I pasted as wll..13:10
ekarlsoSo i'm pretty clueless on why that fails :(13:12
elynnWhat is your codes for? You run these codes and get an error?13:12
ekarlsoi'm trying to update some parameters of a stack13:13
elynnDid you get any log?13:13
elynnUsing what?13:13
elynnheat stack-update?13:14
ekarlsono, bindings13:14
ekarlsoelynn: dude I just pasted you the code above ?13:14
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elynnSo you run these codes in heat service?13:16
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elynnor you write a python file and execute it?13:16
ekarlsopython file13:16
ekarlsoit was just to illustrate what I'm trying to do13:17
elynnI need to test it.13:20
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS::Ironic::Chassis resource  https://review.openstack.org/10313313:58
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Guaranteed password complexity using OS::Heat::RandomString  https://review.openstack.org/10163414:34
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SpamapSstevebaker: thanks for releasing heatclient14:46
SpamapSharlowja_away: just now seeing your question about congress. Will read up now.14:46
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andrearosajasond: I have a quesion about your change for RandomString, are u around?14:52
jasondandrearosa: yes14:52
andrearosafirst of all thanks for the clarification about the weighted stuff14:53
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jasondandrearosa: np14:53
andrearosajasond: ...hold on. probably I found the answer to the quesiton I want to ask you...let me try14:55
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andrearosabe back to you if I am still confused14:55
jasondsure thing14:55
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::NodeGroupTemplate resource  https://review.openstack.org/10028815:00
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::Cluster resource  https://review.openstack.org/7233615:00
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::ClusterTemplate resource  https://review.openstack.org/10150915:00
andrearosajasond: here we go. So in the while loop where you create the weighted_choices i can't understand where the len(cahr_calsses) and len(char_sequences) get changed15:05
jasondoh, i see what you're saying.  i can move that variable outside the while loop15:06
jasondthanks for the persistence :)15:07
andrearosayes15:07
andrearosathanks again for your time15:08
openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Guaranteed password complexity using OS::Heat::RandomString  https://review.openstack.org/10163415:08
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Qiminghi, anybody seeing this symptom as well? https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/33324/heat-autoscaling-doesnt-work/15:25
jdobrandom question: I'm at a point where I need to parse a template into an object model so I can dork with it. does anyone know if the template parsing code can be used outside of the heat server? I haven't looked yet but I figured I'd ask first15:26
Qimingin my case, auto-scaling works, but not so stable. Sometimes, I have to touch an instance (e.g. nova show <instance_id>) to have it deleted.  Or else, all instances just hang there, though the alarm signal is sent.15:27
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::Cluster resource  https://review.openstack.org/7233615:48
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pas-habtw do we have heat-related tempest tests that use keystone v3?15:51
ekarlsowhy does heat not dump json params as a string but as a python struct ?15:53
SpamapSekarlso: bug?15:53
ekarlsou'messaging_images': u"{u'messaging2': u'ed9c4473-4850-46e7-ab4d-16f0cab769f5', u'messaging0': u'ed9c4473-4850-46e7-ab4d-16f0cab769f5', u'messaging1': u'1f20338d-eca0-4d45-a20b-88d09fe0252d'}",15:53
ekarlsoSpamapS: literally yes...15:53
SpamapSekarlso: it's likely just using the str() of the parsed json structure.. which is .. interesting15:54
SpamapSpas-ha: I believe support needs to land in heatclient first15:54
SpamapSsince we don't have a shared keystone session thing that everybody can just consume directly15:54
ekarlsoSpamapS: that's kidna ... bad(15:55
ekarlsomakes it useless to re-parse the structure on the other end15:55
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ekarlsoSpamapS: does heat know that it's a json thing and not just a str ?15:59
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SpamapSekarlso: yeah, the server is sending it as json, I'm 99% sure16:03
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SpamapSekarlso: *hm*16:07
SpamapSekarlso: they may actually be coming from the server in that form.16:08
SpamapSthe 1% wins again!16:08
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SpamapSekarlso: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/api/openstack/v1/views/stacks_view.py#n5116:10
SpamapSDOH16:10
SpamapSekarlso: pretty sure that is the problem16:11
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openstackgerritDavid J Hu proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add keystone v3 auth support  https://review.openstack.org/9272816:24
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zanebSpamapS: btw, that TODO can be removed, since we're never doing XML16:30
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harlowjaSpamapS let me know, i was just learning about congress from a guy here, and was talking about how it seemed similar to convergence style stuff16:59
harlowjawhen he gets in, maybe can get him in here :-P16:59
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bodepdas soon as I start thinking about reuse, resource attribute inheritance etc, it's probably time to write a resource plugin?17:06
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bodepdwith plugins, can I combine external API actions (for managing remote resources) with actions to be performed on those resource once they exist (userdata)?17:09
bodepdwhat I really want to do it create a userdata template that's parameterized and create custom attributes related to a resource that can be used to build that template. Otherwise, I just need a regular nova::server resource17:10
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harlowjasarob SpamapS  might be interested in the congress stuff, especially around how the policy stuff will be actively enforced18:16
harlowja*converging toward enforcement*18:16
harlowjasarob i'd actually like to know myself also ;)18:17
harlowjahow to scalably *actively* enforce policy18:17
sarobharlowja this design doc is pre wiki https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f2xokl9Tc47aV67KEua0PBRz4jsdSDLXth7dYe-jz6Q/edit#heading=h.temawx9epmol18:21
harlowjasarob thx, just from a quick skim, what actually does the active/reactive enforcement?18:22
harlowjaalot about the language, what policy, but not what the active enforcer is18:23
* SpamapS reads18:23
harlowja*which seems like it would be similar to the convergence engine needed by heat (replace convergence with enforcement)18:23
sarobharlowja: congress would enforce desired state by project API18:24
harlowjasarob sure, thats great, but that doesn't explain the software component doing that enforcement :)18:24
SpamapSsarob: so it is basically identical to convergence in Heat then.18:24
harlowjasarob and thats the scalable thing that is at the heart of it  ;)18:24
sarobharlowja: congress project plugins would translate policy18:24
harlowjasarob sure, thats how u write plugins (which is fine), but not how u scalable make it enforced18:25
SpamapSthe active bit, preventing policy violations, is not, but reacting to skew from policy.. that's basically what Heat is going to do.18:25
harlowja*not how u scalably make it enforced18:25
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* sarob rereading juno etherpad on convergence18:26
harlowjasarob the idea for convergence is probably simipler than that etherpad ;)18:27
SpamapSsarob: dont' read the etherpad18:27
SpamapSsarob: https://review.openstack.org/9590718:27
SpamapSsarob: and https://review.openstack.org/9639418:28
SpamapSsarob: https://review.openstack.org/9640418:28
harlowjaSpamapS ah nice, cool18:28
SpamapSsarob: https://review.openstack.org/10001218:28
SpamapSwe need to put those all in one topic18:28
sarobspamaps looks like we have some cross project convergence here18:29
harlowjau guys can converge on convergence18:29
SpamapSsarob: hah, indeed18:29
SpamapSI wonder if congress could just spit out a heat template for the reactive bit18:30
sarobharlowja: spamaps there is overlap with mistral and rubric18:30
saroba bit18:30
harlowjasarob likely is18:30
SpamapSI'd hope we don't overlap at all with workflow18:30
SpamapStrying VERY hard not to do anything workflow.18:31
harlowja:)18:31
SpamapSsarob: you say overlap, I say "opportunity to move to a higher level"18:31
sarobspamaps roger that18:31
sarobspamaps its opportunity for collab not a bad thing18:32
SpamapSsarob: right. Basically let Heat do any cross-project API twiddling.18:32
SpamapSthat is what it does.18:32
sarobspamaps the upgrade policy spec seems like a heat thing18:32
sarobspamaps this spec is a good one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95907/6/specs/convergence.rst18:33
sarobspamaps we def can have bene from sharing spec18:34
sarobspamaps im going to dig in and cross ref congress spec18:36
sarobharlowja: thanks bro18:36
harlowjanp18:36
harlowjasarob if heat can do most of the work for u; might as well let them ;)18:36
harlowjasarob i'm just unsure how the translation from policy -> actual heat things would work, but u can figure that out18:37
harlowjaat some underlying layer the plugins in congress would have to react to things by returning some part of a heat template if u want heat to do the rest of the work18:37
devxis there way to concatenate two variables in a hot template?18:38
sarobharlowja: congress plugins are the plan18:42
sarobharlowja: lightweight translation of state18:42
harlowjasarob sure, so thats how congress uses plugins, but if heat does the work, there needs to be some layer that translates to heat stuff (plugin or other)18:42
sarobharlowja: yaup18:43
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SpamapSdevx: replace18:54
devxSpamapS: thank you18:54
SpamapSdevx: not sure why there isn't a join :-P18:55
SpamapSdevx: but yeah, {str_replace: {template: "k1k2", {params: {k1: {get_param: foo}, k2:{get_param: bar}}}}}18:56
devxok i didn't come accross that, but that will work thank you18:57
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Adds in-instance hook for saltstack  https://review.openstack.org/10261618:58
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stevebakerskraynev: Feel free to turn your +1s into +2(approved) where appropriate ;)20:32
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass the context when updating raw_templates  https://review.openstack.org/10128820:36
openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Unit tests: Check for lost resource after failed rollback  https://review.openstack.org/10323620:36
randallburtcongrats, skraynev20:36
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: OS::Swift::Signal resource  https://review.openstack.org/9694720:43
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Added links to missing integration information  https://review.openstack.org/10173820:58
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix pagination of stack-list  https://review.openstack.org/10160521:48
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Document get_file get_param incompatibility  https://review.openstack.org/10295622:06
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/9650722:08
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement CFN CancelUpdateStack action  https://review.openstack.org/10285222:22
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement cancelling of stack update  https://review.openstack.org/10285122:22
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