Friday, 2014-08-01

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stevebakeruberj: Looks like you've been hit by https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/129925900:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1299259 in heat "FloatingIP needs a hidden dependency on Routers" [High,Triaged]00:04
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openstackgerritTon Ngo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass flag to engine service to patch parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10904200:07
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openstackgerritlvdongbing proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix rollback failure when updating stack  https://review.openstack.org/8830601:06
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openstackgerritlvdongbing proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix rollback failure when updating stack  https://review.openstack.org/8830601:33
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement BlockDeviceMappings for AWS::EC2::Instance  https://review.openstack.org/10372503:28
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement BlockDeviceMappings for LaunchConfiguration  https://review.openstack.org/10564703:31
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uberjstevebaker: exactly. glad its known.03:52
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stevebakeruberj: Can you please attach your template to that bug?04:05
uberjits a bit lengthy04:06
uberjbut sure04:06
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stevebakeruberj: or a cut down version, if that is practical04:07
uberjsure, but don't judge, I'm still playing around and trying to experiment with different patterns :P04:07
uberjhmm, yeah, I'll have to cut it down a lot if you want to be able to use it to repro. Its got a bunch of app specifics in it04:09
uberjI'll try though04:09
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lifelesshmm https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109027/1 abandoned... interested parties want to know more04:24
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uberjstevebaker: I did the leg work and got you a minimal template to try to repro with04:34
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uberjstevebaker: why do you think it needs to have two servers for the bug to be reproduced?04:37
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skraynevGood Morning04:43
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openstackgerritDavid J Hu proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Re-add keystone v3 auth with fixes  https://review.openstack.org/11075005:19
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/10497506:00
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openstackgerritVisnusaran Murugan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Added UUID to stack table and int id as primary  https://review.openstack.org/10605406:25
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adding validation algorithm for get attr functions  https://review.openstack.org/8248807:16
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unmeshgHi, I am noticing gate failures due to tempest identity test case07:55
unmeshgI came across this https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1351080 bug and tried adding 'reverify bug 1351080' but that didn't help07:55
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1351080 in oslo.messaging "Build failed with identity error in check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135108007:55
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1351080 in oslo.messaging "Build failed with identity error in check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full:" [Undecided,New]07:55
unmeshgany ideas ?07:56
unmeshghere are a couple of reviews affected by this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104471/, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106541/07:57
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viktorstherve: around?08:39
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therveviktors, More or less08:48
viktorstherve: a single question - can I hope to get patch  https://review.openstack.org/109658 (Run migration tests on PostgreSQL and MySQL ) reviewed ? :)08:50
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openstackgerritRikimaru Honjo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Restore resource_id from backup_stack  https://review.openstack.org/10276708:59
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therveviktors, Hope is all you got09:18
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viktorstherve: :)09:28
viktorstherve: please, look at this patch, when you'll have a time09:28
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Simon_jandoes heat work with keystone v2.0? I can't use v3 because I have keystone on Apache, and there is a bug with v3, so before someone resolves that I can't use v3 at all... moreover I have "auth_version=2.0" in heat.conf, but it looks like it's trying to access v3 at some point...10:07
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openstackgerritMaheshkumar Pandurangan proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Title:Heat to assert the states of the server  https://review.openstack.org/11123510:49
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therveSimon_jan, See https://github.com/openstack/heat/tree/master/contrib/heat_keystoneclient_v211:31
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Simon_janright now I turned keystone v3 (standalone) on and heat stack-create gives "image 'NoneType' has no attribute 'rstrip'11:43
openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix downgrades in migration scripts 016 and 035  https://review.openstack.org/10998011:43
openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Run migration tests on PostgreSQL and MySQL  https://review.openstack.org/10965811:43
Simon_jan(turned on)*11:44
Simon_janimage's name cannot have white characters?11:44
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Simon_janheat validate-template shows me that my simple temaplte (run cirros as NOVA::SERVER) is ok... but during execution image == None12:02
Simon_janimage is image id right? If I'll set it to a fixed value it should work. am I right?12:03
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Simon_janany idea why image is null?? I put there exact ID of cirros image and it's None...12:09
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openstackgerritSergey Skripnick proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add config file for performance gate job  https://review.openstack.org/11127313:12
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blinky_ghostHi all, I'm looking to build an image to use softwareconfig elements, following this guide: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot/software-config/elements  Any hint how to costumize this to use an image beside Fedora?13:45
ryansbblinky_ghost: you should be able to alter the disk-image-builder arguments to use $OTHER_DISTRO13:47
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ryansbsee https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder for docs on making an image13:48
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htrutahey, everyone. Is there anyway to make heat execute some kind of periodic task?13:48
ryansbI believe the supported options are fedora, rhel, ubuntu, and debian13:48
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htrutaI thought about some hack with ceilometer alarms...13:49
blinky_ghostryansb: So i cannot use Centos yet?13:50
ryansbI'll look in the docs13:50
ryansbblinky_ghost: looks like there's a centos7 element, so it probably does work with centos https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder/blob/673f6aae9fdcbcbb9be352db92e545e723d8690b/elements/centos7/README.md13:52
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blinky_ghostryansb: thanks13:54
blinky_ghostryansb: it seems so, testing right now13:54
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zanebhtruta: when it is ready, Mistral will be the right tool for that14:16
htrutais that any associated BP?14:16
htrutais there*14:16
zanebno, it's a whole project14:16
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zanebworkflow-as-a-service14:16
zanebhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral14:17
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htrutaI'll check that. Thanks14:21
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openstackgerritSergey Skripnick proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add config file for performance gate job  https://review.openstack.org/11127314:44
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blinky_ghostanyone has tried centos7 image with software config elements? I'm getting this error: "Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-dbd---" then it asks for root password. thanks15:15
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sjmc7_blinky_ghost - i haven't got it to boot successfully either15:45
blinky_ghostsjmc7_: same error?15:47
sjmc7_i hadn't got as far as diagnosing it. but it's not just you15:47
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pscheieI'm converting my heat template files from CFN to HOT.15:51
uberjdoes heat having a mailing list?15:51
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pscheieWhat is the OS pastebin url?15:53
zanebuberj: it's part of OpenStack, so we use the OpenStack lists. put [Heat] in the subject15:53
uberjzaneb: thanks15:53
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zanebpscheie: paste.openstack.org15:54
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pscheieCan I use the syntax as shown at http://paste.openstack.org/show/89623/ ?15:56
pscheieNote the dashes at the beginning of each line of rules and the lack of a comma at the end of each line15:56
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pscheieI was going to use the format shown at https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/servers_in_existing_neutron_net.yaml15:57
sjmc7_pscheie - remove the leading brace from rules: [15:58
pscheiebut with each part of a ruleset on its own line, while easy to read, makes my template file too long15:58
sjmc7_otherwise they're equivalent15:58
sjmc7_but i find the longer format easier to maintain in the long run15:59
sjmc7_(like the neutron example)15:59
pscheiesjmc7_, ok.  I added the [  (but forgot the closing ]) because it was shown in this example: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/servers_in_existing_neutron_network_no_floating_ips.yaml15:59
sjmc7_yeah - that example doesn't have the dashes15:59
pscheiebut it does have []16:00
sjmc7_right. use either, but not both16:00
pscheiebut they're unnecessary?16:00
pscheiegood, I like that answer.16:00
zanebpscheie: YAML is a superset of JSON, so anything that works in JSON will work in YAML16:01
sjmc7_there are multiple ways to represent some things in yaml. typically [] and {} are reserved for one-liners16:01
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pscheieI started with the longer format, but realized it was going to make my file cumbersome-ly long16:01
zanebthe yaml list syntax with the -'s is nicer IMO16:01
zanebbut you can't create an unholy mix of []'s + -'s16:01
pscheieYes, I, too, like the - syntax, but being able to define a rule on a single line makes it a bit more compact.16:02
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sjmc7_it's up to you, but be consistent or it'll be confusing to you and others16:02
zanebpscheie: I would personally do it the way you did it, but without the "["16:03
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pscheiezaneb, sounds good.  Fewer characters is better.16:12
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pscheieAny idea why danehans uses [] around his rule(s)?16:13
pscheiePerhaps they're necessary since he didn't use a - at the beginning of each line?16:14
sjmc7_pscheie - [] and {} are json-syntax16:18
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sjmc7_yaml's a superset of json so you can use json syntax or the yaml syntax (dashes for lists, dictionary elements on their own lines)16:19
sjmc7_there's no technical difference, just a matter of taste16:19
pscheiesjmc7_, hmm, well, it is supposedly an example of HOT syntax on that page16:19
pscheieIsn't HOT all yaml?16:19
sjmc7_yes16:20
sjmc7_yaml includes json16:20
pscheieah, so one can include json in HOT?16:21
sjmc7_yes16:21
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jdamblyhello17:38
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Damblesis there anyone that is using heat to create templates for network devices?17:39
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openstackgerritWilliam C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Template get_version expects dict  https://review.openstack.org/11134817:46
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openstackgerritTon Ngo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass list of parameters to engine service to reset  https://review.openstack.org/10928417:53
openstackgerritTon Ngo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass flag to engine service to patch parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10904217:53
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openstackgerritJeff Peeler proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix signal handling for WSGI servers  https://review.openstack.org/11136319:04
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phoenix_Hi, I am trying to launch a stack with multiple instances. Is there a way for me to select which instance to launch based on a parameter I pass in?19:13
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zanebphoenix_: no, at the moment everything included in the template will be launched19:30
phoenix_ok, thanks, is there a plan in the future to include this selection?19:34
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uberjhow developed is the stack update feature?19:47
uberjI'm looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/StackUpdate but I don't know how accurate that is19:47
ryansbUpdate works, but be aware that for the most part update will destroy resources, as many resources don't have good handle_update implementations currently19:49
ryansbpretty much all of the resources of the template will be destroyed/replaced.19:49
uberjis there way to control that behavior?19:50
ryansbas in to have it not destroy/replace things?19:50
uberjyeah19:50
ryansbnot that I'm aware of19:51
ryansbyou can use stack preview to look at what your (presumably changed) templates/environments will make19:51
ryansbso you don't have to run to see what will happen19:51
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uberjhmm, when I do 'stack-preview' I get a stack already exists error19:53
uberjhow are people doing updates right now?19:53
uberjwho are running production things with heat19:54
pscheieIs OS::Nova::Server the HOT equivalent to AWS::EC2::Instance?19:55
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sjmc7_yes pscheie19:56
pscheiesjmc7_, thank you.19:56
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zanebphoenix_: it has been discussed, because CloudFormation now has conditional resources: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84468/19:56
zanebuberj: that wiki page is ~2 years out of date19:57
zanebuberj, ryansb: "pretty much all of the resources of the template will be destroyed/replaced" <- I disagree with that19:58
uberjzaneb: can you link me to more up-to-date docs?19:59
zanebmost resources, especially the native resources have updates implemented19:59
zanebuberj: look at docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html19:59
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zanebyou can see for each property whether "Updates cause replacement." or "Can be updated without replacement."20:00
uberjyeah, I see that. thanks!20:00
ryansbzaneb: Oh? My apologies, I was under the impression that was still the state of updates.20:01
ryansbThanks for clarifying.20:01
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zanebryansb: np, updates are actually really pretty good. I think most of the 'replacement required' properties are by now intentional20:02
ryansbAh. I guess the mailing list threads I found about it must have been old as well.20:03
uberjin the context of a SoftwareDeployment, what does "replacement" mean?20:04
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uberjis the deployment ran again on the same server? is the server itself replaced?20:04
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zanebuberj: replace means "create a new resource and then delete the old resource"20:19
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zanebuberj: so for a software deployment it means the (new) CREATE and (old) DELETE actions will be run, *not* the UPDATE action20:20
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zanebbut it won't replace the server20:21
zaneb(that's kind of the point of software deployments)20:21
uberjto the noun is a SoftwareDeployment *in* heat20:21
uberjnot necessarily whatever the SD controls on the server20:22
uberjso make sure whatever your SoftwareConfigs are doing is idempotent20:22
zanebuberj: well, the only property change that causes replacement is "signal_transport"20:23
zanebso a better rule of thumb would be "don't change the signal_transport"20:23
uberjuh, I don't know what signal_transport is, one sec let me look that up20:23
zanebuberj: just use the default and never worry about it20:24
uberjhaha20:24
zanebactually, I lied, "name" and "server" also cause replacement20:24
zanebso don't change the name, basically20:25
zanebbecause that affects the sort order, so it causes a replacement20:25
zanebI guess20:25
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uberjconfig says "Can be updated without replacement." does that mean it will just run the config again?20:26
uberjif affects the sort order? what does that mean?20:26
uberjsort order of what?20:26
zaneb"name : String20:27
zaneb    Name of the derived config associated with this deployment. This is used to apply a sort order to the list of configurations currently deployed to a server."20:27
zanebso the sort order of multiple deployments on the same server20:28
uberjzaneb: can you point me to the actual code in heat that does the SoftwareDeployment update? that might be better than me pelting you with questions20:29
zanebuberj: 'config says "Can be updated without replacement." does that mean it will just run the config again?' <- I believe it means that the config will be run iff the UPDATE action appears in the actions list20:29
zanebhttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/engine/resources/software_config/software_deployment.py#n37120:30
uberjthanks20:30
zanebso basically http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/engine/resources/software_config/software_deployment.py#n20620:31
zanebwith action == self.UPDATE20:31
zanebryansb: I'm interested if it was the "Re-Heat" thread that caused you to believe that update wasn't ready?20:32
ryansbIt was. The way the project was described I thought it was intended as an out-of-tree improvement/replacement of stack-update20:33
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zanebryansb: ok, thanks. I need to reply to that thread and point out that they've completely missed the point of Heat20:35
zanebit's been on my todo list all week20:36
ryansbsounds like a fair size todo list20:37
zanebno rest for the wicked20:37
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pscheieIs there a HOT equivalent to AWS::CloudFormation::Init?20:42
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zanebpscheie: AWS::CloudFormation::Init20:44
zanebHeat does not interpret the metadata20:44
zanebin-instance tools do20:44
zaneb(in this case heat-cfntools)20:44
zanebso it's orthogonal to the template format20:45
pscheiezaneb, ok20:45
pscheieIs there a HOT equivalent for DependsOn?20:46
zanebyes, depends_on20:46
pscheiezaneb, thanks.20:48
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Maintain compatibility with plugin_dirs config option  https://review.openstack.org/11139321:19
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Maintain compatibility with plugin_dirs config option  https://review.openstack.org/11139321:21
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miarmakhi guys!21:58
miarmakIs it possible to track if stack creating complete from the resource plugin?22:02
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miarmakis anybody here?)22:06
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zanebmiarmak: track it when in the resource plugin?22:12
miarmakzaneb: for example, in the end of the resource creating.22:12
zanebthe plugin is only ever called when something is happening, so by definition the stack is never complete at any time plugin code is executing22:13
miarmakzaneb: ok, clear. Thanks a lot!22:14
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Allow Resources to select paths from attributes  https://review.openstack.org/10654122:22
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix rollback failure when updating stack  https://review.openstack.org/8830622:23
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openstackgerritSusaant Kondapaneni proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Implements: blueprint neutron-grouppolicy  https://review.openstack.org/11141723:54
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