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stevebaker | uberj: Looks like you've been hit by https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1299259 | 00:04 |
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uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1299259 in heat "FloatingIP needs a hidden dependency on Routers" [High,Triaged] | 00:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Ton Ngo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass flag to engine service to patch parameters https://review.openstack.org/109042 | 00:07 |
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openstackgerrit | lvdongbing proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix rollback failure when updating stack https://review.openstack.org/88306 | 01:06 |
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openstackgerrit | lvdongbing proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix rollback failure when updating stack https://review.openstack.org/88306 | 01:33 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement BlockDeviceMappings for AWS::EC2::Instance https://review.openstack.org/103725 | 03:28 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement BlockDeviceMappings for LaunchConfiguration https://review.openstack.org/105647 | 03:31 |
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uberj | stevebaker: exactly. glad its known. | 03:52 |
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stevebaker | uberj: Can you please attach your template to that bug? | 04:05 |
uberj | its a bit lengthy | 04:06 |
uberj | but sure | 04:06 |
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stevebaker | uberj: or a cut down version, if that is practical | 04:07 |
uberj | sure, but don't judge, I'm still playing around and trying to experiment with different patterns :P | 04:07 |
uberj | hmm, yeah, I'll have to cut it down a lot if you want to be able to use it to repro. Its got a bunch of app specifics in it | 04:09 |
uberj | I'll try though | 04:09 |
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lifeless | hmm https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109027/1 abandoned... interested parties want to know more | 04:24 |
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uberj | stevebaker: I did the leg work and got you a minimal template to try to repro with | 04:34 |
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uberj | stevebaker: why do you think it needs to have two servers for the bug to be reproduced? | 04:37 |
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skraynev | Good Morning | 04:43 |
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openstackgerrit | David J Hu proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Re-add keystone v3 auth with fixes https://review.openstack.org/110750 | 05:19 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/104975 | 06:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Visnusaran Murugan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Added UUID to stack table and int id as primary https://review.openstack.org/106054 | 06:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adding validation algorithm for get attr functions https://review.openstack.org/82488 | 07:16 |
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unmeshg | Hi, I am noticing gate failures due to tempest identity test case | 07:55 |
unmeshg | I came across this https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1351080 bug and tried adding 'reverify bug 1351080' but that didn't help | 07:55 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1351080 in oslo.messaging "Build failed with identity error in check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1351080 | 07:55 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1351080 in oslo.messaging "Build failed with identity error in check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full:" [Undecided,New] | 07:55 |
unmeshg | any ideas ? | 07:56 |
unmeshg | here are a couple of reviews affected by this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104471/, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106541/ | 07:57 |
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viktors | therve: around? | 08:39 |
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therve | viktors, More or less | 08:48 |
viktors | therve: a single question - can I hope to get patch https://review.openstack.org/109658 (Run migration tests on PostgreSQL and MySQL ) reviewed ? :) | 08:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Rikimaru Honjo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Restore resource_id from backup_stack https://review.openstack.org/102767 | 08:59 |
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therve | viktors, Hope is all you got | 09:18 |
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viktors | therve: :) | 09:28 |
viktors | therve: please, look at this patch, when you'll have a time | 09:28 |
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Simon_jan | does heat work with keystone v2.0? I can't use v3 because I have keystone on Apache, and there is a bug with v3, so before someone resolves that I can't use v3 at all... moreover I have "auth_version=2.0" in heat.conf, but it looks like it's trying to access v3 at some point... | 10:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Maheshkumar Pandurangan proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Title:Heat to assert the states of the server https://review.openstack.org/111235 | 10:49 |
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therve | Simon_jan, See https://github.com/openstack/heat/tree/master/contrib/heat_keystoneclient_v2 | 11:31 |
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Simon_jan | right now I turned keystone v3 (standalone) on and heat stack-create gives "image 'NoneType' has no attribute 'rstrip' | 11:43 |
openstackgerrit | Victor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix downgrades in migration scripts 016 and 035 https://review.openstack.org/109980 | 11:43 |
openstackgerrit | Victor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Run migration tests on PostgreSQL and MySQL https://review.openstack.org/109658 | 11:43 |
Simon_jan | (turned on)* | 11:44 |
Simon_jan | image's name cannot have white characters? | 11:44 |
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Simon_jan | heat validate-template shows me that my simple temaplte (run cirros as NOVA::SERVER) is ok... but during execution image == None | 12:02 |
Simon_jan | image is image id right? If I'll set it to a fixed value it should work. am I right? | 12:03 |
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Simon_jan | any idea why image is null?? I put there exact ID of cirros image and it's None... | 12:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Skripnick proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add config file for performance gate job https://review.openstack.org/111273 | 13:12 |
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blinky_ghost | Hi all, I'm looking to build an image to use softwareconfig elements, following this guide: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot/software-config/elements Any hint how to costumize this to use an image beside Fedora? | 13:45 |
ryansb | blinky_ghost: you should be able to alter the disk-image-builder arguments to use $OTHER_DISTRO | 13:47 |
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ryansb | see https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder for docs on making an image | 13:48 |
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htruta | hey, everyone. Is there anyway to make heat execute some kind of periodic task? | 13:48 |
ryansb | I believe the supported options are fedora, rhel, ubuntu, and debian | 13:48 |
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htruta | I thought about some hack with ceilometer alarms... | 13:49 |
blinky_ghost | ryansb: So i cannot use Centos yet? | 13:50 |
ryansb | I'll look in the docs | 13:50 |
ryansb | blinky_ghost: looks like there's a centos7 element, so it probably does work with centos https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder/blob/673f6aae9fdcbcbb9be352db92e545e723d8690b/elements/centos7/README.md | 13:52 |
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blinky_ghost | ryansb: thanks | 13:54 |
blinky_ghost | ryansb: it seems so, testing right now | 13:54 |
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zaneb | htruta: when it is ready, Mistral will be the right tool for that | 14:16 |
htruta | is that any associated BP? | 14:16 |
htruta | is there* | 14:16 |
zaneb | no, it's a whole project | 14:16 |
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zaneb | workflow-as-a-service | 14:16 |
zaneb | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral | 14:17 |
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htruta | I'll check that. Thanks | 14:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Skripnick proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add config file for performance gate job https://review.openstack.org/111273 | 14:44 |
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blinky_ghost | anyone has tried centos7 image with software config elements? I'm getting this error: "Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-dbd---" then it asks for root password. thanks | 15:15 |
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sjmc7_ | blinky_ghost - i haven't got it to boot successfully either | 15:45 |
blinky_ghost | sjmc7_: same error? | 15:47 |
sjmc7_ | i hadn't got as far as diagnosing it. but it's not just you | 15:47 |
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pscheie | I'm converting my heat template files from CFN to HOT. | 15:51 |
uberj | does heat having a mailing list? | 15:51 |
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pscheie | What is the OS pastebin url? | 15:53 |
zaneb | uberj: it's part of OpenStack, so we use the OpenStack lists. put [Heat] in the subject | 15:53 |
uberj | zaneb: thanks | 15:53 |
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zaneb | pscheie: paste.openstack.org | 15:54 |
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pscheie | Can I use the syntax as shown at http://paste.openstack.org/show/89623/ ? | 15:56 |
pscheie | Note the dashes at the beginning of each line of rules and the lack of a comma at the end of each line | 15:56 |
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pscheie | I was going to use the format shown at https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/servers_in_existing_neutron_net.yaml | 15:57 |
sjmc7_ | pscheie - remove the leading brace from rules: [ | 15:58 |
pscheie | but with each part of a ruleset on its own line, while easy to read, makes my template file too long | 15:58 |
sjmc7_ | otherwise they're equivalent | 15:58 |
sjmc7_ | but i find the longer format easier to maintain in the long run | 15:59 |
sjmc7_ | (like the neutron example) | 15:59 |
pscheie | sjmc7_, ok. I added the [ (but forgot the closing ]) because it was shown in this example: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/servers_in_existing_neutron_network_no_floating_ips.yaml | 15:59 |
sjmc7_ | yeah - that example doesn't have the dashes | 15:59 |
pscheie | but it does have [] | 16:00 |
sjmc7_ | right. use either, but not both | 16:00 |
pscheie | but they're unnecessary? | 16:00 |
pscheie | good, I like that answer. | 16:00 |
zaneb | pscheie: YAML is a superset of JSON, so anything that works in JSON will work in YAML | 16:01 |
sjmc7_ | there are multiple ways to represent some things in yaml. typically [] and {} are reserved for one-liners | 16:01 |
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pscheie | I started with the longer format, but realized it was going to make my file cumbersome-ly long | 16:01 |
zaneb | the yaml list syntax with the -'s is nicer IMO | 16:01 |
zaneb | but you can't create an unholy mix of []'s + -'s | 16:01 |
pscheie | Yes, I, too, like the - syntax, but being able to define a rule on a single line makes it a bit more compact. | 16:02 |
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sjmc7_ | it's up to you, but be consistent or it'll be confusing to you and others | 16:02 |
zaneb | pscheie: I would personally do it the way you did it, but without the "[" | 16:03 |
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pscheie | zaneb, sounds good. Fewer characters is better. | 16:12 |
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pscheie | Any idea why danehans uses [] around his rule(s)? | 16:13 |
pscheie | Perhaps they're necessary since he didn't use a - at the beginning of each line? | 16:14 |
sjmc7_ | pscheie - [] and {} are json-syntax | 16:18 |
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sjmc7_ | yaml's a superset of json so you can use json syntax or the yaml syntax (dashes for lists, dictionary elements on their own lines) | 16:19 |
sjmc7_ | there's no technical difference, just a matter of taste | 16:19 |
pscheie | sjmc7_, hmm, well, it is supposedly an example of HOT syntax on that page | 16:19 |
pscheie | Isn't HOT all yaml? | 16:19 |
sjmc7_ | yes | 16:20 |
sjmc7_ | yaml includes json | 16:20 |
pscheie | ah, so one can include json in HOT? | 16:21 |
sjmc7_ | yes | 16:21 |
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jdambly | hello | 17:38 |
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Dambles | is there anyone that is using heat to create templates for network devices? | 17:39 |
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openstackgerrit | William C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Template get_version expects dict https://review.openstack.org/111348 | 17:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Ton Ngo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass list of parameters to engine service to reset https://review.openstack.org/109284 | 17:53 |
openstackgerrit | Ton Ngo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass flag to engine service to patch parameters https://review.openstack.org/109042 | 17:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeff Peeler proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix signal handling for WSGI servers https://review.openstack.org/111363 | 19:04 |
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phoenix_ | Hi, I am trying to launch a stack with multiple instances. Is there a way for me to select which instance to launch based on a parameter I pass in? | 19:13 |
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zaneb | phoenix_: no, at the moment everything included in the template will be launched | 19:30 |
phoenix_ | ok, thanks, is there a plan in the future to include this selection? | 19:34 |
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uberj | how developed is the stack update feature? | 19:47 |
uberj | I'm looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/StackUpdate but I don't know how accurate that is | 19:47 |
ryansb | Update works, but be aware that for the most part update will destroy resources, as many resources don't have good handle_update implementations currently | 19:49 |
ryansb | pretty much all of the resources of the template will be destroyed/replaced. | 19:49 |
uberj | is there way to control that behavior? | 19:50 |
ryansb | as in to have it not destroy/replace things? | 19:50 |
uberj | yeah | 19:50 |
ryansb | not that I'm aware of | 19:51 |
ryansb | you can use stack preview to look at what your (presumably changed) templates/environments will make | 19:51 |
ryansb | so you don't have to run to see what will happen | 19:51 |
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uberj | hmm, when I do 'stack-preview' I get a stack already exists error | 19:53 |
uberj | how are people doing updates right now? | 19:53 |
uberj | who are running production things with heat | 19:54 |
pscheie | Is OS::Nova::Server the HOT equivalent to AWS::EC2::Instance? | 19:55 |
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sjmc7_ | yes pscheie | 19:56 |
pscheie | sjmc7_, thank you. | 19:56 |
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zaneb | phoenix_: it has been discussed, because CloudFormation now has conditional resources: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84468/ | 19:56 |
zaneb | uberj: that wiki page is ~2 years out of date | 19:57 |
zaneb | uberj, ryansb: "pretty much all of the resources of the template will be destroyed/replaced" <- I disagree with that | 19:58 |
uberj | zaneb: can you link me to more up-to-date docs? | 19:59 |
zaneb | most resources, especially the native resources have updates implemented | 19:59 |
zaneb | uberj: look at docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html | 19:59 |
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zaneb | you can see for each property whether "Updates cause replacement." or "Can be updated without replacement." | 20:00 |
uberj | yeah, I see that. thanks! | 20:00 |
ryansb | zaneb: Oh? My apologies, I was under the impression that was still the state of updates. | 20:01 |
ryansb | Thanks for clarifying. | 20:01 |
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zaneb | ryansb: np, updates are actually really pretty good. I think most of the 'replacement required' properties are by now intentional | 20:02 |
ryansb | Ah. I guess the mailing list threads I found about it must have been old as well. | 20:03 |
uberj | in the context of a SoftwareDeployment, what does "replacement" mean? | 20:04 |
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uberj | is the deployment ran again on the same server? is the server itself replaced? | 20:04 |
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zaneb | uberj: replace means "create a new resource and then delete the old resource" | 20:19 |
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zaneb | uberj: so for a software deployment it means the (new) CREATE and (old) DELETE actions will be run, *not* the UPDATE action | 20:20 |
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zaneb | but it won't replace the server | 20:21 |
zaneb | (that's kind of the point of software deployments) | 20:21 |
uberj | to the noun is a SoftwareDeployment *in* heat | 20:21 |
uberj | not necessarily whatever the SD controls on the server | 20:22 |
uberj | so make sure whatever your SoftwareConfigs are doing is idempotent | 20:22 |
zaneb | uberj: well, the only property change that causes replacement is "signal_transport" | 20:23 |
zaneb | so a better rule of thumb would be "don't change the signal_transport" | 20:23 |
uberj | uh, I don't know what signal_transport is, one sec let me look that up | 20:23 |
zaneb | uberj: just use the default and never worry about it | 20:24 |
uberj | haha | 20:24 |
zaneb | actually, I lied, "name" and "server" also cause replacement | 20:24 |
zaneb | so don't change the name, basically | 20:25 |
zaneb | because that affects the sort order, so it causes a replacement | 20:25 |
zaneb | I guess | 20:25 |
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uberj | config says "Can be updated without replacement." does that mean it will just run the config again? | 20:26 |
uberj | if affects the sort order? what does that mean? | 20:26 |
uberj | sort order of what? | 20:26 |
zaneb | "name : String | 20:27 |
zaneb | Name of the derived config associated with this deployment. This is used to apply a sort order to the list of configurations currently deployed to a server." | 20:27 |
zaneb | so the sort order of multiple deployments on the same server | 20:28 |
uberj | zaneb: can you point me to the actual code in heat that does the SoftwareDeployment update? that might be better than me pelting you with questions | 20:29 |
zaneb | uberj: 'config says "Can be updated without replacement." does that mean it will just run the config again?' <- I believe it means that the config will be run iff the UPDATE action appears in the actions list | 20:29 |
zaneb | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/engine/resources/software_config/software_deployment.py#n371 | 20:30 |
uberj | thanks | 20:30 |
zaneb | so basically http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/engine/resources/software_config/software_deployment.py#n206 | 20:31 |
zaneb | with action == self.UPDATE | 20:31 |
zaneb | ryansb: I'm interested if it was the "Re-Heat" thread that caused you to believe that update wasn't ready? | 20:32 |
ryansb | It was. The way the project was described I thought it was intended as an out-of-tree improvement/replacement of stack-update | 20:33 |
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zaneb | ryansb: ok, thanks. I need to reply to that thread and point out that they've completely missed the point of Heat | 20:35 |
zaneb | it's been on my todo list all week | 20:36 |
ryansb | sounds like a fair size todo list | 20:37 |
zaneb | no rest for the wicked | 20:37 |
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pscheie | Is there a HOT equivalent to AWS::CloudFormation::Init? | 20:42 |
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zaneb | pscheie: AWS::CloudFormation::Init | 20:44 |
zaneb | Heat does not interpret the metadata | 20:44 |
zaneb | in-instance tools do | 20:44 |
zaneb | (in this case heat-cfntools) | 20:44 |
zaneb | so it's orthogonal to the template format | 20:45 |
pscheie | zaneb, ok | 20:45 |
pscheie | Is there a HOT equivalent for DependsOn? | 20:46 |
zaneb | yes, depends_on | 20:46 |
pscheie | zaneb, thanks. | 20:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Maintain compatibility with plugin_dirs config option https://review.openstack.org/111393 | 21:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Maintain compatibility with plugin_dirs config option https://review.openstack.org/111393 | 21:21 |
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miarmak | hi guys! | 21:58 |
miarmak | Is it possible to track if stack creating complete from the resource plugin? | 22:02 |
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miarmak | is anybody here?) | 22:06 |
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zaneb | miarmak: track it when in the resource plugin? | 22:12 |
miarmak | zaneb: for example, in the end of the resource creating. | 22:12 |
zaneb | the plugin is only ever called when something is happening, so by definition the stack is never complete at any time plugin code is executing | 22:13 |
miarmak | zaneb: ok, clear. Thanks a lot! | 22:14 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Allow Resources to select paths from attributes https://review.openstack.org/106541 | 22:22 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix rollback failure when updating stack https://review.openstack.org/88306 | 22:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Susaant Kondapaneni proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Implements: blueprint neutron-grouppolicy https://review.openstack.org/111417 | 23:54 |
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