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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Import the stack module directly https://review.openstack.org/107292 | 03:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use the template module to access the Template class https://review.openstack.org/107291 | 03:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Avoid name clash between local variable and a module https://review.openstack.org/115861 | 03:51 |
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| cmyster | morning | 04:40 |
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| praveenkumar | As per https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/YAMLTemplates "HeatTemplateFormatVersion is omitted from the template, parsing will assume that the template complies with the most recent format" then why heat client throw exception http://paste.fedoraproject.org/127252/ ? | 05:09 |
| stevebaker | praveenkumar: good spotting, that is out-of-date documentation. We are strict now and require an explicit format version. Could you please update the wiki> | 05:11 |
| stevebaker | ? | 05:11 |
| praveenkumar | stevebaker: alright, let me check if I have require permission for wiki editing. | 05:12 |
| stevebaker | praveenkumar: actually, that is a very old spec, so it isn't really documentation at all. | 05:12 |
| praveenkumar | stevebaker: So since now heat require explicit format version then is there any way we can can pass yml template to heat_client object and it will convert it required format or we have to convert it in json ourself before passing to client? | 05:15 |
| stevebaker | praveenkumar: is there a reason you can't just specify a version in your template? | 05:15 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/105166 | 05:16 |
| praveenkumar | stevelle: not any specific reason but I was trying python-heatclient to do all operation and stack.create() need json file or template_url so when I converting a yaml into json which have version info it was throwing error "TypeError: datetime.date(2013, 5, 23) is not JSON serializable" | 05:19 |
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| stevebaker | praveenkumar: ah, you may have to 'quote' the version string in the yaml | 05:21 |
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| praveenkumar | stevebaker: hmm, that's solve this issue. | 05:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move neutron_utils functions to neutron client https://review.openstack.org/115210 | 05:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Using neutron utils function from neutron plugin https://review.openstack.org/114957 | 05:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Moving network_id_from_subnet_id to neutron client https://review.openstack.org/105382 | 05:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Skip validation if depends on not created resource https://review.openstack.org/108951 | 05:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Providing reference on resource during preview https://review.openstack.org/97544 | 05:29 |
| skraynev | good morning | 05:31 |
| asalkeld | hi | 05:32 |
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| CDOT | Hi there | 05:50 |
| CDOT | I want some help regarding a problem . Here it is | 05:50 |
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| CDOT | http://fpaste.org/127261/86003001/ | 05:52 |
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| CDOT | http://fpaste.org/127261/86003001/ | 06:12 |
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| zhiwei | hi, I have a question: what can be updated by heat stack-update? | 06:26 |
| skraynev | zhiwei: the simple answer - whole stack, but it depends on what you change in new template which you will use for update | 06:29 |
| zhiwei | skraynev: thanks. I want to know if I can update all the resources in HOT. | 06:29 |
| zhiwei | like autoscalinggroup | 06:29 |
| skraynev | zhiwei: do you mean AWS of OS AutoScalingGroup? | 06:31 |
| zhiwei | case: the old HOT has two autoscalegroup A and B, in the new HOT there is B and C. | 06:31 |
| zhiwei | yes | 06:31 |
| zhiwei | and I also update some attribute in AutoScalingGroup B. | 06:31 |
| skraynev | zhiwei: as far as I know it's possible | 06:32 |
| zhiwei | oh, two complex. I don't think nova scheduler can handle this. | 06:32 |
| skraynev | skraynev: I have not tried to do the same thing, so I can not say that all will be awesome :) But I suppose, that it should work correct. | 06:34 |
| skraynev | Anyway I think that some people have such experience and may give you feedback about results or you may try to do it | 06:36 |
| skraynev | and to make sure what will happen | 06:37 |
| CDOT | Please help me regarding my problem : http://fpaste.org/127261/86003001/ | 06:38 |
| skraynev | CDOT: hm. if you want to create instance with the same ip and volume you possibly should remove old before. | 06:39 |
| skraynev | CDOT: and your real question is: how to create vm+volume using heat? right? | 06:40 |
| CDOT | skraynev : What I want is to automatically relaunch a new instance on the termination of a running instance with the same ip and volume | 06:42 |
| CDOT | skraynev : Basically I want High Availability of an instance | 06:42 |
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| asalkeld | cdot you can do that with the restarter resource | 06:50 |
| asalkeld | and a floating ip | 06:50 |
| asalkeld | tho' restart resource does not work very well atm | 06:50 |
| CDOT | asalkeld : please provide some documentation link if possible | 06:50 |
| asalkeld | cdot, not sure i'd use it for production | 06:51 |
| skraynev | CDOT: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/cfn/F17/WordPress_Single_Instance_With_HA.yaml | 06:51 |
| CDOT | asalkeld : I was trying to do that with Heat template | 06:51 |
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| asalkeld | cdot, trying to find a template - hold on | 06:52 |
| CDOT | Thanks asalkeld | 06:52 |
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| skraynev | asalkeld: may be this https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/cfn/F17/WordPress_Single_Instance_With_HA.yaml ? | 06:53 |
| asalkeld | yes, also: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/cfn/F17/WordPress_Single_Instance_With_IHA.template | 06:54 |
| cmyster | CDOT: interesting question, but a tricky one. if you set up a static IP, then duplicate, then turn off the original server/stack and start the duplicated one it will start with the same IP. so static IP configuration in the server is imo the simplest and best solution | 06:54 |
| CDOT | cmyster : thats ok. but how to automate it using heat | 06:56 |
| skraynev | cmyster: so will be enough to add static ip for instance in template (vm+restarter) | 06:56 |
| cmyster | one option is to use a configuration script. for instance, in the examples above you can add lines that will change the init scripts to have a static IPs | 06:57 |
| cmyster | skraynev: in a regular situation yes. think about it like that: if you have a pc and you set it to have a static IP, it will always boot with that IP even if that IP is taken by a different machine (in which case it will be assigned a dummy IP) | 06:58 |
| CDOT | asalkeld : thanks . I already tried these removing the Database parts coz I just want to bring up a simple instance . The template doesnot launch a stack. :( | 06:58 |
| cmyster | but thats basic networks, it has nothing to do with heat or openstack | 06:58 |
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| cmyster | CDOT: what are your needs from a stack ? | 06:58 |
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| asalkeld | cdot, it's an old template - needs some work | 06:58 |
| asalkeld | for one fedora 17 :-O | 06:59 |
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| CDOT | Ok asalkeld. | 06:59 |
| cmyster | check those https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot/F20 | 06:59 |
| cmyster | F20 has cfn OOB so one has easier time working with those | 06:59 |
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| CDOT | asalkeld : I will try it and then report here :) Thanks | 07:00 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: Unfortunately we did not move all templates in repo from F17 to F20 :( | 07:00 |
| asalkeld | cdot, cool - if it works out for it might be submitting a new tempalte | 07:00 |
| asalkeld | for a more receint os | 07:00 |
| skraynev | cmyster: agree, may be Floating IP can be as solution (not for private network) | 07:01 |
| cmyster | floating IP if you limit it to one :) | 07:02 |
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| cmyster | personally I am working on something like I wrote earlier, a simple server and using sed to change some values and restarting the network service to have a static (no dhcpd) IP | 07:03 |
| cmyster | it should be straight forward, just never got the time... | 07:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | xu-haiwei proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix wrong log level https://review.openstack.org/112237 | 07:13 |
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| skraynev | cmyster: sounds interesting, I hope that we will see some useful results soon ;) | 07:15 |
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| cmyster | ;) | 07:17 |
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| praveenkumar | once we create a stack which spin a instance, do we have metadata about instance IP and other stuff which can be access by stack? | 07:33 |
| shardy_afk | morning all | 07:52 |
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| shardy | praveenkumar: yes, those things are exposed as resource attributes | 07:52 |
| shardy | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Nova::Server-attrs | 07:52 |
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| AA | shardy : Hi, thanks for your comments on my templates. As you can see, I follow your advices : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111677/ | 07:55 |
| shardy | AA: great, thanks - I will re-review but probably not until tomorrow, due to the feature proposal freeze deadline later today (I have a pile of code I want to finish and post..) | 07:58 |
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| AA | shardy: Ok, I understand. So I wait for your review ;) | 08:02 |
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| pas-ha | morning all | 08:22 |
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| praveenkumar | shardy: thanks, will check that out. | 08:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix downgrades in migration scripts 016 and 035 https://review.openstack.org/109980 | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add nested_depth to internal _create_stack RPC interface https://review.openstack.org/115732 | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: port CFN Stack resource to RpcStackResource https://review.openstack.org/115733 | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add new RpcStackResource nested-stack base-class https://review.openstack.org/115074 | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add nested_depth column to stack table https://review.openstack.org/115730 | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: engine service add nested_depth to create_stack https://review.openstack.org/115731 | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: SoftwareDeployments move signal reason into resource plugin https://review.openstack.org/106825 | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Convert CFN waitcondition API to resource_signal https://review.openstack.org/106824 | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Mark metadata_update RPC call deprecated https://review.openstack.org/106985 | 09:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Match tenant_id when name ambiguity in get_secgroup_uuids() https://review.openstack.org/109222 | 09:24 |
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| praveenkumar | shardy: so I am using http://fpaste.org/127291/ template which create instance having IP '10.0.0.11' but in the stack resources I am not able to find this detail, should I have to explictly specify network property in template before creating stack? | 09:37 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/hello_world.yaml#L66 | 09:38 |
| shardy | Or you can reference any one of the attributes I linked earlier | 09:38 |
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| johnnyd | hey guys. I used http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/heat-install.html guide to install heat on debian where I have working OpenStack installation and I've made all steps, but I see "Authorization error" when I try to execute heat stack-list | 09:58 |
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| johnnyd | during the installation db was created, endpoints were registred so how the hell it refuses heat's client commands? | 09:59 |
| johnnyd | I'm using admins creds... so all stuff like nova net-list, keystone service-list works like a charm... only heat has some issues... | 10:00 |
| johnnyd | I've also added "heat_stack_user" role to that user.I don't know if it's necessary or not, but I added it anyway. is it necessary? | 10:01 |
| shardy | johnnyd: You should not add heat_stack_user to the user, that's probably why it's denying your request | 10:01 |
| johnnyd | i added it after the request was refused, so great to know it's not required, so I'll remove it and try again... | 10:02 |
| johnnyd | but i doubt it'll change anything | 10:02 |
| shardy | That role is added to users associated with in-instance credentials so we can deny access to most of the API surface | 10:02 |
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| johnnyd | no way it works.... thx guys :-) I was struggling with heat for a few days (different errors than this one) so I decided to purge it completely and reinstall it again and start everything from scratch and I was a bit upset when it didn't work after a clean installation... | 10:04 |
| shardy | johnnyd: np, glad that solved your problem :) | 10:08 |
| shardy | we should probably add a sentence to that install guide saying don't add the role to users interacting with heat | 10:08 |
| johnnyd | but in the end the fresh installation didn't help that much... I'm again in the same point I was before. any idea why heat returns "ERROR: Property error : server1: image 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'rstrip'" | 10:09 |
| johnnyd | maybe I should start with other question.... can I pass in ImageID image's name or ID (UUID) or just a name? | 10:10 |
| shardy | johnnyd: either should work | 10:10 |
| johnnyd | ok so I tested both and I still see "NoneType" object has no attribute rstrip | 10:10 |
| shardy | Check this https://answers.launchpad.net/heat/+question/232632 to ensure your paste settings are OK | 10:10 |
| shardy | Several folks have reported that error, which AFAIK has mostly been due to using old or broken paste config files | 10:11 |
| johnnyd | so you say that broken config is in debian's packages? hmm... | 10:12 |
| shardy | I have no idea - did you upgrade from an older version of Heat? | 10:12 |
| johnnyd | it's true I have "paste.filter_factory = keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token:filter_factory" instead of "heat.common.auth_token:filter_factory" other properties are already in heat.conf right and they should be loaded from there. right? | 10:13 |
| johnnyd | i purged older version completely, all configs etc. so no way it's a leftover | 10:14 |
| shardy | interesting, so perhaps there is a packaging issue somewhere | 10:14 |
| shardy | If that turns out to be true, please let us know, either here or by updating that answers post above | 10:15 |
| johnnyd | ok, I'll try that api-paste.ini from that bug and sure I'll let you know | 10:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update stack.load_all adding show_nested https://review.openstack.org/114229 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: db API add show_nested to stack_get_all https://review.openstack.org/114228 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: db API add show_nested to stack_count_all https://review.openstack.org/114231 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add show_nested to list_stacks RPC interface https://review.openstack.org/114230 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add show_nested parameter to GET v1/stacks API https://review.openstack.org/114233 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add show_nested to count_stacks RPC interface https://review.openstack.org/114232 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add "parent" key to list stacks output https://review.openstack.org/114234 | 10:16 |
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| johnnyd | now when I changed "keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token:filter_factory" to "heat.common.auth_token:filter_factory" heat-api doesn't start... it can't be heat.common.auth_token... there is no such class in /usr/share/pyshared/heat/common... there is no auth_token.py and afair that namespace refers to path and file and class right? | 10:47 |
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| johnnyd | besides that bug is from 2013.. so I suppose it was there before icehouse... probably... | 10:48 |
| shardy | johnnyd: Hmm, yeah you're right, apologies, I didn't realize that answer referred to havana | 10:51 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/stable/icehouse/etc/heat/api-paste.ini | 10:51 |
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| shardy | we moved from specifying a wrapper in heat.common to importing the keystoneclient auth_token directly | 10:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Skip validation if depends on not created resource https://review.openstack.org/108951 | 10:54 |
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| johnnyd | shardy: do you have a working/reference heat.conf file? I reverted all changes and I'm back in the point where I can authorize.. so `heat stack-list` works, but I can't create a stack and still getting `image 'NoneType' object has no attri` | 10:56 |
| johnnyd | shardy: I'm using keystone v2 for now... and glance is on a different host so maybe it's the reason why it can't resolve that image... | 10:57 |
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| johnnyd | shardy: I suppose keystone is configured correctly in heat, cos I can execute stack-list.. or there are different lvls of privileges and I shouldn't assume that if one command works, others also should | 10:58 |
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| shardy | johnnyd: well heat needs to talk to the glance API so if there's any connectivity or catalog issues that could be related | 10:59 |
| shardy | I can provide my heat.conf, but I'm not sure it will help in this case | 10:59 |
| johnnyd | shardy: oh wait right now I have a different error in heat-api log... keystone client Unable to get version info from keystone... crap so many errors.. and I thought it'd be easy task... | 10:59 |
| johnnyd | shardy: would be great, I'll check if packages haven't missed anything during configuration and try to eliminate as much as possible before talking to glance guys | 11:01 |
| shardy | Unfortunately openstack has a lot of moving parts, that's why so many automated installers exist | 11:01 |
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| johnnyd | shardy: i'm not sure it's glance's fault because ImageID is the first parameter which heat's tries to resolve | 11:01 |
| shardy | can you paste the whole backtrace into paste.openstack.org? | 11:01 |
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| johnnyd | shardy: yeaa I've already struggled with neutron for few days. You know it's great that there are so many tools and I wanted to use Ansible to set up everything (I don't know Chef/Puppet) but at a time I wanted to to do that there was no icehouse release and I wanted to know it from the ground before launching some black-box | 11:03 |
| ckmvishnu | how to test database to use mysql/postgresql? could not find related config in tox.ini | 11:04 |
| ckmvishnu | i mean configure tox to use mysql | 11:04 |
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| johnnyd | shardy: heat-engine.log => http://paste.openstack.org/show/98135/ | 11:06 |
| johnnyd | shardy: I used basic template from debian's guide.. http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/heat-verify.html => 2 params NetID and ImageID | 11:06 |
| johnnyd | shardy: regarding that keystone version error. I suppose it's related to v3 vs v2 API... but damn why heat stack-list works if there is an error in a logfile... "Unable to get version info from keystone" | 11:08 |
| ckmvishnu | got it, configuration under test_migrations.py | 11:09 |
| johnnyd | shardy: does heat work with KeystoneV2 in Icehouse or not? I see in heat.conf default => #keystone_backend=heat.common.heat_keystoneclient.KeystoneClientV3 | 11:11 |
| shardy | johnnyd: No, the default config is v3 only | 11:13 |
| shardy | There is a v2 plugin though | 11:13 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat/tree/stable/icehouse/contrib/heat_keystoneclient_v2 | 11:13 |
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| shardy | which you can use if you can't yet use v3 | 11:13 |
| shardy | (at the expense of some features) | 11:13 |
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| johnnyd | shardy: I had to use Keystonev2 becasue I wanted integarate it with Kerberso via Apache WSGI, but it turned out it's not that easy... so I can probably go back to V3, but thx I'll check that contrib v2 client | 11:16 |
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| praveenkumar | shardy: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/hello_world.yaml#L66 here *network* value will be available network for a instance right? because in my case I have only *private* network but after creation of stack it show "The Referenced Attribute (server private) is incorrect." | 11:33 |
| shardy | praveenkumar: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Nova::Server-attrs | 11:34 |
| shardy | there is no "private" attribute | 11:35 |
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| praveenkumar | shardy: ah so in property I have to define networks which have details about port and ip. but if I don't provide any details then also stack creation happen but that doesn't contain default network configuration. | 11:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Avoid name clash between local variable and a module https://review.openstack.org/115861 | 11:47 |
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| ckmvishnu | shardy: any idea on why _post_downgrade not implemented. test_migrations.py does not attempt a downgrade | 12:02 |
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| shardy | ckmvishnu: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109980/ | 12:06 |
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| ckmvishnu | shardy: thanks. I've added downgrade checks as well. | 12:07 |
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| ckmvishnu | shardy: i set snake_walk to True, which will migrate_up, migrate_down and again migrate_up. 035 fails. | 12:36 |
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| ckmvishnu | shardy: we need to be adding _post_downgrade_xx for all migrations | 12:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow to decide between Nova-network and Neutron https://review.openstack.org/115968 | 12:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use networking_service config in AWS SecurityGroup https://review.openstack.org/115969 | 12:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::NodeGroupTemplate resource https://review.openstack.org/100288 | 12:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement sahara client plugin https://review.openstack.org/100588 | 12:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::Cluster resource https://review.openstack.org/72336 | 12:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::ClusterTemplate resource https://review.openstack.org/101509 | 12:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement GroupSet updatable for AWS::EC2::NetworkInterface https://review.openstack.org/109809 | 14:17 |
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| pscheie_ | What is the difference between OS::Heat::InstanceGroup and OS::Heat::ResourceGroup? | 14:37 |
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| pscheie_ | Is there an attribute of a resource that holds the name of the resource as given in the template file? | 14:54 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96404/ .. You asked for a picture. I think we made that picture at the mid-cycle. :) | 15:12 |
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| shardy | SpamapS: sounds good! :) | 15:13 |
| ryansb | SpamapS: now that's a high quality photo https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tamoc8dhhckb81w/AAA6xp2be9xv20P7SWx-xnZba?dl=0#lh:null-IMG_20140819_185809286.jpg | 15:17 |
| ryansb | just like being there. | 15:17 |
| SpamapS | ryansb: critical information contained in that photo | 15:18 |
| SpamapS | ryansb: "The photographer is a moron." | 15:18 |
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| ryansb | Also critical: "the photographer had a thumb in front of the lens" | 15:19 |
| ryansb | ;) | 15:19 |
| shardy | "return happy" :) | 15:20 |
| ryansb | That should be a type in python. Like "truthy" or "falsy" | 15:20 |
| SpamapS | shardy: yeah you can see where we got to about 1900 and we were all like "we're soooo close" .. oh no.. we're not | 15:22 |
| SpamapS | One thing that became clear to us after that was that we need less people in design summit sessions so we can actually do _that_ | 15:22 |
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| SpamapS | We're never going to be able to hammer out a design for a new feature with 140 people in the peanut gallery. | 15:23 |
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| SpamapS | But this felt like a much better use of our time than the usual "We think X is a good idea. Yes lets investigate X. [random ATC] NO X IS BAD USE Y" | 15:24 |
| shardy | SpamapS: +1, although it's really hard to strike a balance between being open and inclusive and actually making decisions and getting work done | 15:25 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: communication overhead is a real thing, and I think we should offer anybody the chance to join the result discussions (so presenting the design, not making it). | 15:36 |
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| shardy | SpamapS: speaking of design decisions, I'm currently pondering the best approach re RpcStackResource | 15:41 |
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| shardy | We obviously want the lifecycle operations abstracted, so we can spread the load of e.g create over multiple engines | 15:41 |
| shardy | but what about introspection operations? | 15:41 |
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| shardy | I'm currently persuing an approach where all interaction with the nested stack is via RPC | 15:42 |
| shardy | but wondering if the introspection shouldbe direct to the db? | 15:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Implement sahara client plugin https://review.openstack.org/100588 | 17:01 |
| SpamapS | shardy: anything that is in the DB should be fair game for direct inspection | 17:02 |
| SpamapS | shardy: assuming that what is in the DB represents what is going on and not some in-ram mutated state that we're not putting in the DB right now. | 17:02 |
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| pscheie_ | Can I use AWS::CloudFormation::Init in the metadata section of a OS::Heat::ResourceGroup or a OS::Nova::Server? | 19:15 |
| KanagarajM2 | SpamapS: Hi Clint, on 'zero down time upgarde' , so far i don't see any response on the dev list | 19:17 |
| jpeeler | zaneb: why was Fn::If never implemented (or all the condition functions really)? | 19:18 |
| KanagarajM2 | SpamapS: to implement it, we can treat it as spearate blueprint, as this needs to be implemented irrespective of the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110557/ | 19:18 |
| zaneb | jpeeler: because they invented it after we had moved on to work on HOT | 19:18 |
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| jpeeler | zaneb: i assume that's not high priority then, but surely at some point we want to add them? | 19:21 |
| zaneb | yes | 19:21 |
| zaneb | there was some discussion at one point | 19:22 |
| zaneb | we never settled on what the equivalent in HOT should be | 19:22 |
| zaneb | jpeeler: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84468/ | 19:23 |
| SpamapS | KanagarajM2: I think your message was just timed poorly. Many of us were travelling or intensely working on the mid-cycle meetup | 19:24 |
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| SpamapS | KanagarajM2: but I'm not sure why Nova people have not responded. | 19:25 |
| KanagarajM2 | SpamapS: ok in the mean time, i will try to investigate and come up with an approach to handle 'zero down time upgarde' for the heat. | 19:26 |
| jpeeler | zaneb: is there a policy that we implement both versions at the same time? | 19:27 |
| zaneb | no, no policy | 19:27 |
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| SpamapS | KanagarajM2: ok. As we get further on convergence the priority will rise for that, so it is good to start looking now. | 19:27 |
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| zaneb | jpeeler: but now that the Template classes are pluggable, it's nice to choose an API that works decently for everything we want to do | 19:28 |
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| KanagarajM2 | SpamapS: sure | 19:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add a env_data_lookup intrinsic function for HOT https://review.openstack.org/81918 | 19:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Include project ID in stack abandon data https://review.openstack.org/110713 | 19:53 |
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| stevebaker | morning! | 20:14 |
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| andersonvom | morning! | 20:30 |
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| tango | stevebaker: Hi Steve | 21:50 |
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| stevebaker | tango: higgins | 22:52 |
| stevebaker | tango: higgins | 22:52 |
| stevebaker | tango: hi! (don't....hit....tab) | 22:52 |
| tango | stevebaker: Hi Steve, got a question on tempest | 22:53 |
| stevebaker | tango: yes | 22:53 |
| tango | I remember you mentioned in a meeting about some changes concerning tempest tests for Heat | 22:53 |
| tango | I am not sure what whether the change affects where I would submit new tests. | 22:54 |
| tango | I have a new API test for my blueprint, does it go into the tempest project as before? | 22:55 |
| stevebaker | tango: we have a new heat functional tests job (currently broken) and a change series which moves existing heat scenario tests to the heat tree https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/functional-tests,n,z (these will be changing next week) | 22:56 |
| stevebaker | tango: if it is a pure API test (ie, its not testing a resource) then it can still go into tempest.api.orchestration. Once tempest-lib exists then all the api tests can move to heat too, but that is further down the track | 22:57 |
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| tango | Right, it's not testing a resource, just some new API feature | 22:58 |
| stevebaker | tango: OK. tempest is the place for it then. At least for now | 22:58 |
| tango | ok, sounds good. My next question is, should I have a matching CLI tests as well? | 22:58 |
| tango | I don't see too many CLI tests for Heat, so I was wondering | 22:59 |
| stevebaker | tango: there should probably be a new effort to write them as heat functional tests - new cli tests probably don't belong in tempest | 23:01 |
| stevebaker | tango: but you should be able to get decent cli coverage with python-heatclient unit tests | 23:01 |
| tango | Right, I have those already. | 23:02 |
| tango | So maybe I will hold off on the tempest style CLI test for now | 23:03 |
| asalkeld | morning | 23:19 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, what services need to run for software config to work ? just cloud-init | 23:29 |
| asalkeld | anything else | 23:29 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: a running os-collect-config daemon, os-refresh-config, os-apply-config, software-config hooks. Thats it | 23:47 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker, how do they get run? | 23:48 |
| asalkeld | init script? | 23:48 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: look at tripleo-image-elements for exactly how they get installed on the image. Ideally you would figure out how to build the docker image using those exact tripleo-image-elements elements | 23:49 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker, https://github.com/asalkeld/openstack-docker-agents/blob/master/heat-agent/supervisord.conf | 23:49 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker, it's the running of it that i want to know | 23:49 |
| asalkeld | docker doesn't run init | 23:49 |
| asalkeld | (i am using supervisord instead) | 23:49 |
| asalkeld | just wondering what to run | 23:49 |
| asalkeld | i can get cloud-init to run fine | 23:50 |
| openstackgerrit | William C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Scaling group scale-down plug point https://review.openstack.org/110379 | 23:51 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: os-collect-config is to configured to run as a daemon (upstart or systemd). But also /etc/os-collect-config.conf is bootstrapped by cloud-init metadata driving an os-apply-config template (see the elements for details) | 23:51 |
| asalkeld | ok | 23:51 |
| stevebaker | so it sounds like supervisord will run os-collect-config | 23:52 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: why not use systemd? | 23:52 |
| asalkeld | i am using ubuntu for one | 23:52 |
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