| asalkeld | ooo, nice: | 00:02 |
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| asalkeld | pip install radon | 00:02 |
| asalkeld | radon cc --min C --max E heat/ | 00:02 |
| asalkeld | (Cyclomatic Complexity | 00:03 |
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| asalkeld | lol: radon mi --min B heat/ (Maintainability Index score) | 00:04 |
| asalkeld | heat/tests/test_api_openstack_v1.py - C | 00:05 |
| asalkeld | that is the worst | 00:05 |
| larsks | stevebaker: i've hacked around the auth issue; the root problem is https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1372710 | 00:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1372710 in heat "cfn-push-stats fails to authenticate" [Undecided,New] | 00:08 |
| larsks | stevebaker: boto and keystone generate different signatures. | 00:08 |
| larsks | I've modified keystone locally to discard the query_string component when talking to boto, but that's probably not the right solution. | 00:08 |
| larsks | zaneb: I wonder if the code should just treat dimemsion = [] the same as dimension being undefined. | 00:09 |
| larsks | I think that might work. | 00:09 |
| larsks | Now that I have auth working... | 00:13 |
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| larsks | ...what do I pass to the --watch arg for cfn-push-stats when using ceilometer-backed cloudwatch alarms? Calling get_resource on the alarm results in an "arn:..." uri, rather than the watch name (which is what cloudwatch wants, apparently). | 00:13 |
| larsks | Not sure how do get the appropriate value in a Heat template. | 00:13 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: do you know? ^ | 00:14 |
| asalkeld | larsks, you don't pass --watch | 00:15 |
| larsks | asalkeld: without --watch, I get a watchrulenotfound error. | 00:15 |
| asalkeld | are you sure that you are using OS::Ceilometer::Alarm? | 00:15 |
| larsks | Positive. Just a sec... | 00:16 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/ceilometer/alarm.py#L168 | 00:16 |
| larsks | Right. | 00:17 |
| larsks | Here's the generated alarm: http://chunk.io/f/5bbf8fc600d8447ea5b6c9b60326f194 | 00:17 |
| larsks | And the watch rule in the watch_rule table as "CEILOMETER_CONTROLLED". | 00:17 |
| larsks | I know I'm hitting the _to_ceilometer() method because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1373140 | 00:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1373140 in heat "_to_ceilometer does not properly handle empty dimensions property" [Medium,Triaged] | 00:17 |
| larsks | ...but I only get that far if I manually pass teh watch name to --watch. | 00:18 |
| asalkeld | larsks, you need the dimesions | 00:18 |
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| larsks | asalkeld: what do they need to be? I wasn't able to find any examples or docs, and the cfn/ examples in heat-templates don't appear to use the dimensions property at all... | 00:19 |
| asalkeld | larsks, maybe you server is not getting the metadata you need | 00:19 |
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| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat-cfntools/blob/master/bin/cfn-push-stats#L256 | 00:20 |
| asalkeld | you see that ^ | 00:20 |
| larsks | Yes. But what metadata is it looking for? And what is supposed to set it? | 00:20 |
| asalkeld | "metering.<something>" - i'll find it for you | 00:20 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/autoscaling.py#L262-L273 | 00:21 |
| asalkeld | this is what the autoscaling does | 00:21 |
| asalkeld | it depends on the alarm you are making | 00:22 |
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| asalkeld | larsks, can you post your template? | 00:22 |
| larsks | asalkeld: Sure. Right now, I was working with an harestarter resource, not an autoscaling group. | 00:22 |
| asalkeld | totally | 00:22 |
| asalkeld | so what happens is: | 00:22 |
| larsks | This is the template: http://chunk.io/f/d0c023058e11411aab001f6562574db7 | 00:22 |
| asalkeld | 1 the server gets created with some metadata (metering....) | 00:23 |
| asalkeld | 2 the sample is received and dimensions > metadata | 00:23 |
| asalkeld | 3 sent to ceilometer | 00:23 |
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| asalkeld | 4 we tell ceilometer to alarm on a rule that matches that metadata | 00:24 |
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| asalkeld | so, to debug: | 00:24 |
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| asalkeld | make sure that your server has the right metadata | 00:25 |
| asalkeld | make sure that you can see the conversion of dimensions > metadata | 00:25 |
| larsks | RIght. So, what is the right metadata? I've been trying to use cfn/F17/WordPress_Single_Instance_With_IHA.template (from heat-templates) as an example, but that uses an explicit --watch and does not set explicit metadata. | 00:25 |
| larsks | (there are not HOT examples using harestarter or cloudwatch alarms) | 00:26 |
| asalkeld | ok, well that might mean you are the first to do this:) | 00:26 |
| asalkeld | I smell a blog post / how to | 00:26 |
| larsks | Given that cfn-push-stats can't auth, and the AWS_CloudWatch_Alarm.yaml template was broken...I think that yes, that may be the case :) | 00:26 |
| larsks | That is actually my primary goal with all this -- producing some documentation on how to put it together. | 00:26 |
| asalkeld | cool | 00:27 |
| larsks | There were some questions on ask.openstack.org that seemed simple, and then...rabbit hole. | 00:27 |
| asalkeld | your dimensions are: | 00:27 |
| asalkeld | AlarmName: server_alarm | 00:27 |
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| asalkeld | so you need server metadata that is "metering.AlarmName = server_alarm" | 00:28 |
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| larsks | So like this? http://chunk.io/f/ff9060f9c33a4787b9f508e32ea7cf71 | 00:29 |
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| larsks | With that metadata: key in the os::nova::server resource, I get a server with what sounds like the appropriate metadata attached... | 00:32 |
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| larsks | ...but "cfn-push-stats --heartbeat" still gets "WatchRuleNotFound: The Watch Rule (Unknown) could not be found. | 00:32 |
| asalkeld | looks about right | 00:33 |
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| asalkeld | ok, let me look | 00:33 |
| larsks | The rest includes the AlarmName dimension...this is the actual request, captured with tcpdump: http://chunk.io/f/2b97168fc42b440ba3a780ad3c6560d4 | 00:34 |
| larsks | Huh, actually I lied...there is no AlarmName there, is there. | 00:35 |
| larsks | So not clear how that request is supposed to get associated with anything. | 00:35 |
| asalkeld | yip | 00:35 |
| asalkeld | it | 00:35 |
| asalkeld | it should get it from the metadata (in cfn-push-stats) | 00:36 |
| larsks | And cfn-push-stats should be getting the metadata by making an api request prior to POSTing the meter, right? | 00:37 |
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| asalkeld | larsks, the metadata should be pulled down by cloud-init / cfn-init | 00:38 |
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| larsks | Okay. Where does that get placed? /var/lib/heat/...? | 00:38 |
| asalkeld | i think it's /var/lib/cloud/ | 00:38 |
| asalkeld | hang on I'll look at cfn-push-stats | 00:39 |
| larsks | The raw user-data goes into /var/lib/cloud/instance/user-data.txt, but the cfn-tools stuff parses that out into /var/lib/heat-cfn-tools. | 00:39 |
| larsks | WHich has these files: cfn-boto-cfg cfn-metadata-server cfn-userdata cfn-watch-server provision-finished | 00:39 |
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| larsks | This is the raw user-data.txt from /var/lib/cloud: http://chunk.io/f/aae1da38e5a94668bd00507e1ab47f46 | 00:40 |
| asalkeld | it needs to pull done nova metadata | 00:41 |
| asalkeld | cache_path='/var/lib/heat-cfntools/nova_meta.json' | 00:41 |
| asalkeld | look there ^ | 00:41 |
| larsks | Yeah, that files is not there (see file list ^^^^) | 00:42 |
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| larsks | (And cfn-push-stats does not appear to make any api requests other than the POST to cloudwatch...) | 00:43 |
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| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat-cfntools/blob/master/bin/cfn-push-stats#L256 | 00:44 |
| asalkeld | that calls this: https://github.com/openstack/heat-cfntools/blob/master/heat_cfntools/cfntools/cfn_helper.py#L1174 | 00:44 |
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| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat-cfntools/blob/master/heat_cfntools/cfntools/cfn_helper.py#L1174 | 00:44 |
| asalkeld | does that path exist? /var/lib/heat-cfntools | 00:45 |
| larsks | Yeah...that's the directory from which I posted the file list a few lines back. | 00:46 |
| larsks | I ran a tcpdump while running cfn-push-stats and I did not see a metadata fetch. | 00:46 |
| larsks | Reading through the code right now... | 00:46 |
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| asalkeld | do you have curl installed? | 00:47 |
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| larsks | Yup. | 00:48 |
| larsks | I can fetch the meta-data.json without a problem. | 00:48 |
| larsks | So, the call to cfn_helper.Metadata('not-used', None) is returning "null". Haven't gotten past that yet... | 00:48 |
| asalkeld | python -m pdb cfn-push-stats | 00:48 |
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| larsks | I'm not familiar with pdb; I was hoping that "break cfn_helper.Metadata" would get me what I want... | 00:50 |
| asalkeld | just step | 00:51 |
| larsks | That seems to step into modules...so I'm currently stepping through "argparse". I don't think that's what we want... | 00:52 |
| larsks | There we go; break send_stats gets me closer. | 00:53 |
| larsks | Okay, stepping through get_tags... | 00:53 |
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| larsks | Hahahaha. | 00:54 |
| larsks | Apparently, it uses "wget" to fetch the metadata? | 00:54 |
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| larsks | Guess what doesn't exist in an F20 cloud image? | 00:55 |
| larsks | asalkeld: https://github.com/openstack/heat-cfntools/commit/8ef88a6e864fa49cdc6dda9b1c701a29e0557253 | 00:55 |
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| stevebaker | larsks: latest release of heat-cfntools switches to curl | 00:55 |
| larsks | stevebaker: Yeah, that's the above commit... | 00:55 |
| larsks | Well, that explains why this hasn't been working. | 00:56 |
| asalkeld | oops | 00:56 |
| larsks | If only cfn-push-stats were written in a language that had a native http module... | 00:56 |
| larsks | So, let me install wget and see how far this gets. | 00:57 |
| asalkeld | larsks, man curl says "-O, --remote-name" | 00:57 |
| asalkeld | -o, --output <file> | 00:57 |
| larsks | Yup. I've just installed wget. | 00:57 |
| asalkeld | s/O/o | 00:57 |
| larsks | So, that gets us a valid metadata fetch (and the /var/lib/heat-cfn-tools/nova_meta.json file exists now). | 00:58 |
| asalkeld | w00t | 00:58 |
| asalkeld | that was hard work:O | 00:58 |
| larsks | And now the request looks better: http://chunk.io/f/072c78d91f784418ab846a8a95910d2b | 00:59 |
| larsks | But... | 00:59 |
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| larsks | WatchRuleNotFound: The Watch Rule (Unknown) could not be found. | 00:59 |
| asalkeld | I can see why | 00:59 |
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| asalkeld | there is more than one dimension | 01:00 |
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| asalkeld | larsks, btw: you are doing awesome work here, well done! | 01:01 |
| larsks | Thanks :). All kinds of excitement... | 01:01 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/watchrule.py#L280-L282 | 01:01 |
| asalkeld | that only gets the first dimension | 01:01 |
| asalkeld | :-( | 01:01 |
| larsks | But we're not getting that far... | 01:02 |
| larsks | The WatchRuleNotFound happens *before* that call, I think. | 01:02 |
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| larsks | I have an open('/var/tmp/heat.log', 'w') at the beginning to _to_ceilometer(), and it's not getting triggered. | 01:03 |
| stevebaker | larsks: to be honest I consider heat-cfntools to be for cfn compatiblility only (and cfn-push-stats isn't even a cfn compat tool). We're likely better off writing a new push-stats tool and deploying as a diskimage-builder element | 01:04 |
| larsks | stevebaker: I am...largely okay with, I guess. This all started because I was trying to tackle a simple "how do I use harestarter" sort of document. | 01:04 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker, sure - but we have code there and it should really work | 01:05 |
| larsks | My conclusion so far is, "don't", or "pass the AlarmUrl from the harestarter resource to an external monitoring tool like nagios, etc" | 01:05 |
| asalkeld | larsks, it's the same issue | 01:05 |
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| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/watchrule.py#L384-L386 | 01:06 |
| asalkeld | well 2 patches should fix it: one to cfntools and one to Heat | 01:06 |
| larsks | Is this fix here to iterate over Dimensions and build a merged dictionary? | 01:07 |
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| larsks | Or should Dimensions not be a list to begin with? | 01:08 |
| asalkeld | larsks, i can fix the heat part if you want | 01:09 |
| larsks | asalkeld: This is the value of stats_data in that function: http://chunk.io/f/5e197c697bfb4b56a59abd23a894a929 | 01:10 |
| larsks | It looks as if Dimensions[0] would actually be correct, right? | 01:10 |
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| asalkeld | mmm, maybe - Just adding a unit test with that data | 01:12 |
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| larsks | asalkeld: Okay, help me out here: in rule_can_use_sample, if wr.state == wr.CEILOMETER_CONTROLLED, it's looking in wr.rule['matching_metadata'] for the dimensions. That key is empty; the dimensions are in stats_data. | 01:19 |
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| larsks | Or is matching_metadata there supposed to be set in the *template*? | 01:19 |
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| asalkeld | we need to look at the cloudwatch resource to see how it is converted | 01:20 |
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| larsks | The template is setting AlarmName: server_alarm, but maybe that isn't getting converted correctly... | 01:20 |
| larsks | Right. | 01:20 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/etc/heat/templates/AWS_CloudWatch_Alarm.yaml#L86 | 01:21 |
| larsks | In the template (/etc/heat/templates/AWS_CloudWatch_Alarm.yaml)... | 01:21 |
| asalkeld | yip | 01:21 |
| larsks | matching_metadata is set like this: | 01:21 |
| larsks | "Fn::MemberListToMap": [Name, Value, {Ref: Dimensions}] | 01:21 |
| larsks | And "Dimensions" is a CommaDelimitedList. | 01:21 |
| asalkeld | http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSCloudFormation/latest/UserGuide/aws-properties-cw-dimension.html | 01:22 |
| asalkeld | so this is wrong: | 01:23 |
| asalkeld | Dimensions: | 01:23 |
| asalkeld | - AlarmName: server_alarm | 01:23 |
| larsks | Or is the template wrong? Because it declares Dimensions as a list...should it actually be a mapping? | 01:23 |
| larsks | No, wait, look at the example on that page... | 01:23 |
| asalkeld | should be: Dimensions: [{Name: AlarmName, Value: server_alarm}] | 01:23 |
| larsks | Oh, I see, Name: and Value: | 01:24 |
| larsks | Right. Let's try that. | 01:24 |
| asalkeld | dimensions are weird | 01:24 |
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| larsks | ...recreating stack... | 01:24 |
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| larsks | Hmmm....Resource CREATE failed: HTTPBadRequest: HTTPBadRequest (HTTP 400) ERROR Unknown argument: "AlarmName": unrecognized field in query: | 01:26 |
| asalkeld | lets see the template | 01:27 |
| larsks | This is the template with updated Dimensions: http://chunk.io/f/9ec176cc5bbf42f5930cc54a61adad16 | 01:27 |
| asalkeld | try putting {} around the Name value | 01:28 |
| larsks | The format I have and the format you have are syntactically identical... | 01:28 |
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| larsks | ...but, assuming you would ask that, I tried. Same error. | 01:28 |
| larsks | http://chunk.io/f/a72ab435b5534d5a9dfd1a5a6755753a | 01:29 |
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| larsks | The full error is: 2014-09-23 21:28:18.735 11883 TRACE heat.engine.resource Error: Resource CREATE failed: HTTPBadRequest: HTTPBadRequest (HTTP 400) ERROR Unknown argument: "AlarmName": unrecognized field in query: [<Query u'AlarmName' eq u'server_alarm' Unset>], valid keys: set(['end', 'start', 'metaquery', 'meter', 'project', 'source', 'user', 'start_timestamp_op', 'resource', 'end_timestamp_op', | 01:30 |
| larsks | 'message_id']) | 01:30 |
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| asalkeld | that's a conversion issue (from dimensions to ceilometer query) | 01:31 |
| asalkeld | I am trying this myself now | 01:31 |
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| larsks | What's the easiest way to find the origin source of that exception? It seems to be masked in the traceback in the file... | 01:33 |
| asalkeld | so that is when the ceilometer alarm is created | 01:34 |
| asalkeld | just print out the kwargs going into ceilometer | 01:34 |
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| larsks | Here? /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/engine/stack_resource.py | 01:36 |
| larsks | I meant: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/ceilometer/alarm.py#L157 | 01:36 |
| larsks | (sorry, bad paste) | 01:36 |
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| asalkeld | yip just print out props | 01:38 |
| larsks | This is props: http://chunk.io/f/a9f80a9a0b404943a996d451e3218052 | 01:38 |
| asalkeld | that actually good quite good | 01:41 |
| larsks | should that actually look something metadata.user_metadata.AlarmName? | 01:42 |
| larsks | That's what I see in other examples. | 01:42 |
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| larsks | E.g. https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml#L122 | 01:43 |
| asalkeld | maybe, it's been a while | 01:43 |
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| larsks | Which matches from line 74 in that file: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml#L74 | 01:43 |
| larsks | But there is some sort of magical transformation going on there. | 01:44 |
| larsks | metering.stack --> metadata.user_metadata.stack | 01:44 |
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| asalkeld | yeah, we might need to do that in the _to_ceilometer() | 01:44 |
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| larsks | That's the wrong place, isn't it? _to_ceilometer() is called via cfn-push-stats, but we're instantiating the alarm in engine/resources/ceilometer/alarm.py...isn't the problem on that side? | 01:47 |
| larsks | That is, we need to fix how we're calling ceilometer().alarms.create(**props) | 01:47 |
| larsks | Or maybe we fix this in /etc/heat/templates/AWS_CloudWatch_Alarm.yaml? | 01:49 |
| asalkeld | yes, you right | 01:50 |
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| larsks | Can we fix this just in the template? I guess we have to do some sort of transformation on the "Name" value. | 01:52 |
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| asalkeld | larsks, it is converted | 01:54 |
| asalkeld | memberlist to map | 01:54 |
| larsks | asalkeld: right, but we we need to transform, e.g., "AlarmName" into "metadata.user_metadata.AlarmName". Or not? | 01:55 |
| asalkeld | i am still getting a ceilometer alarm create exception | 01:55 |
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| larsks | asalkeld: I'm running out of steam, I think. At least we've identifed a problem. Errr, number of problems, I think. | 02:01 |
| asalkeld | yip, I'll keep having a look | 02:01 |
| asalkeld | at least to be able to create the alarm | 02:01 |
| larsks | Remind me, other than the issue we have right now with Dimensions/matching_metadata mapping, were there things that needed fixing in cfn-push-stats and heat? | 02:01 |
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| asalkeld | larsks, fix the -o option to curl | 02:06 |
| asalkeld | (in cfn-push-stats) | 02:06 |
| larsks | asalkeld: Can I just make cfn-push-stats use urllib? | 02:07 |
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| larsks | It looks like the call to "curl" is already fixed. | 02:08 |
| larsks | (in heat-cfntools master) | 02:08 |
| asalkeld | ok | 02:08 |
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| larsks | Thanks again for all your help on this. Let me know if you get things working... | 02:11 |
| asalkeld | ok, bbl - getting lunch | 02:13 |
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| pas-ha | morning all | 07:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Do not attempt a stack update when it is deleting https://review.openstack.org/123651 | 07:24 |
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| unmeshg | Hi, curious to know the reasons of having flavor resource in contrib and not a core resource | 09:12 |
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| pas-ha | unmeshg, because it is admin-only | 09:32 |
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| pas-ha | and thus useless for ordinary users, causing confusion | 09:34 |
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| pas-ha | so if a cloud admin thinks he needs it, s(he) must specifically choose to deploy it | 09:35 |
| unmeshg | ok, got it | 09:35 |
| unmeshg | thanks | 09:35 |
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| bdossant | hi! is it possible to trigger a scale up policy using the resource-signal cmd? | 09:43 |
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| Qiming | bdossant, yes | 09:43 |
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| bdossant | can you show me some examples? | 09:44 |
| bdossant | some web page or something? | 09:44 |
| bdossant | ive been googling but without luck | 09:44 |
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| Qiming | bdossant, I don't think there is document/example on this | 09:45 |
| bdossant | so for example, i should use like this "heat resource-signal scale_lb WebServerScaleDownPolicy -D " | 09:46 |
| bdossant | ? | 09:46 |
| bdossant | and then put some json data after right? | 09:46 |
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| Qiming | bdossant, right | 09:46 |
| Qiming | bdossant, if you are doing this in a python program, you can refer to this: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat-templates/tree/hot/software-config/elements/heat-config/os-refresh-config/configure.d/55-heat-config#n95 | 09:47 |
| bdossant | no actually i wanted to use the command line | 09:49 |
| Qiming | also, this handle_signal function can help understand what are the JSON contents that will be consumed: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/engine/resources/openstack/scaling_policy.py#n106 | 09:49 |
| Qiming | command line should be okay | 09:50 |
| bdossant | maybe i just need to know the json format for input | 09:50 |
| bdossant | thanks | 09:50 |
| Qiming | bdossant, in the comments | 09:50 |
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| bdossant | Qiming: Thanks it worked | 10:06 |
| bdossant | something like this: heat --debug resource-signal scale_lb WebServerScaleDownPolicy -D '{"alarm_id": "c7a1350d-c725-4a58-a5ce-4d8dbd3b98b8", "previous": "ok", "current": "alarm", "reason": "..."}' | 10:06 |
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| pas-ha | Qiming, do you happen to know if nanjj intends to pick up his https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109923/ ? the last activity was over a month ago... | 10:28 |
| pas-ha | and I have a better implementation but am hesitant to take over | 10:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/123699 | 11:34 |
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| Putns | Hi, i have a newbie question concerning HOT syntax - what is the correct way to write lists in it? The documentation doesn't seem to explicitly explain this | 12:05 |
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| asalkeld | Putns, it's yaml | 12:08 |
| asalkeld | list_name: | 12:08 |
| asalkeld | - | 12:08 |
| asalkeld | - item1 | 12:08 |
| asalkeld | - item2 | 12:08 |
| asalkeld | etc... | 12:08 |
| Putns | ah, yes, i see | 12:09 |
| Putns | thanks | 12:09 |
| asalkeld | http://www.yaml.org/start.html | 12:09 |
| Putns | yes, i was being stupid | 12:10 |
| Putns | thanks again | 12:10 |
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| mkulke | hello, is it possible to assign a floating ip resource to an instance? | 12:16 |
| mkulke | in the samples i found, the floating ip is always set to a port | 12:16 |
| mkulke | currently i use: networks: | 12:18 |
| mkulke | - network: {get_resource: fixed_network} | 12:18 |
| mkulke | to assign networks to instances | 12:18 |
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| jdandrea | mkulke: Were you looking at this example perchance? https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/servers_in_new_neutron_net.yaml | 12:33 |
| jdandrea | (That's how I've always tied floating IPs to Server instances.) | 12:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add an option to disable cloud watch lite https://review.openstack.org/123039 | 12:43 |
| asalkeld | therve, are you about? | 12:43 |
| therve | asalkeld, Hey | 12:44 |
| asalkeld | o, hi | 12:44 |
| asalkeld | just a question about ceilometer alarming | 12:44 |
| asalkeld | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1373247 | 12:44 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1373247 in heat "Cloud watch alarms don't work via Ceilometer" [Undecided,New] | 12:44 |
| asalkeld | I have always thought we need "metering.bla" | 12:45 |
| asalkeld | but you have "user_metadata.bla" | 12:45 |
| asalkeld | where did you get that from the "user_metadata" | 12:45 |
| therve | Hum | 12:46 |
| asalkeld | the way i thought it worked was nova you grab any metadata that had "metering" at the begining | 12:46 |
| therve | Note that I didn't add user_metadata in that patch | 12:46 |
| asalkeld | and send that on to ceilometer | 12:47 |
| asalkeld | really, ok - my bad | 12:47 |
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| asalkeld | no worries therve, I'll dig a bit more | 12:48 |
| therve | asalkeld, AFAICT, if you put "metering.foo" in nova metadata | 12:48 |
| therve | You get 'metadata.user_metadata.foo' in ceilometer | 12:48 |
| asalkeld | serious? - that's messed up | 12:48 |
| therve | Why? | 12:49 |
| asalkeld | well you put one thing in and it changes | 12:49 |
| asalkeld | i'd expect it to stay the same | 12:49 |
| therve | The same as? | 12:50 |
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| asalkeld | so if i put in "metering.X", i'd expect to be able to search for "metering.X" | 12:50 |
| asalkeld | but you are saying i'd need to search for "user_metadata.X" | 12:51 |
| asalkeld | that's not easy to guess | 12:51 |
| therve | Presumably you shouldn't guess and find the documentation instead :) | 12:51 |
| asalkeld | most only read docs as a matter of desperation | 12:52 |
| asalkeld | (maybe that's just me) | 12:52 |
| asalkeld | :-O | 12:52 |
| jdandrea | Naive question: Why *isn't* it consistent? | 12:52 |
| asalkeld | not sure, we need to ask on #openstack-metering | 12:53 |
| * jdandrea nods | 12:53 | |
| therve | jdandrea, Consistent with what? :) | 12:54 |
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| jdandrea | metadata: {"metering.stack": {get_param: "OS::stack_id"}} ... and matching_metadata: {'metadata.user_metadata.stack': {get_param: "OS::stack_id"}} - The keys don't match up. Why? (Answer: We need to ask on #openstack-metering) | 12:55 |
| jdandrea | It's right there: "matching_metadata" | 12:55 |
| therve | It seems fairly consistent to me. | 12:55 |
| * jdandrea shakes head | 12:56 | |
| asalkeld | therve, the problem is if you use an agent to add samples it doesn't change | 12:56 |
| asalkeld | so if i add metering.X ceilometer just records that | 12:56 |
| asalkeld | IMO that's confusing | 12:57 |
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| therve | Sorry I don't understand. agent, samples? | 12:57 |
| therve | What doesn't change? | 12:57 |
| asalkeld | therve, cfn-push-stats | 12:58 |
| asalkeld | or using ceilometer client directly | 12:58 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/compute/util.py#L34 | 13:00 |
| therve | SO yeah it does exactly what I expected it to do | 13:01 |
| asalkeld | it makes things really messy | 13:01 |
| asalkeld | also that reservered_metadata_namespace should not be configurable | 13:02 |
| asalkeld | (Heat can't read that option) | 13:02 |
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| therve | Over configurability is an issue | 13:06 |
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| asalkeld | for sure | 13:07 |
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| therve | But the prefix behavior makes sense to me. If it stayed right there, you'd have the feeling other metadata is available, but it's not. | 13:09 |
| asalkeld | shrug, it really surprised me | 13:10 |
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| asalkeld | g'night all - getting late | 13:15 |
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| mkulke | jdandrea, yeah thanks. | 14:26 |
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| jdandrea | mkulke: You're welcome. Did that help? | 14:27 |
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| mkulke | jdandrea: kindof :) | 14:28 |
| mkulke | i was hoping i could attach that floating ip to the instance directly | 14:28 |
| mkulke | not via a port | 14:28 |
| jdandrea | Yeah, I was trying to better understand that. I've always had to use ports in conjunction with floating IPs that way. I never thought there was another way. | 14:29 |
| mkulke | it's even this way in horizon | 14:31 |
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| larsks | Part of the issue is that floating ips are not associated with *instances*. An instance can have multiple fixed ips, and each fixed ip can be associated with a different floating ip...and since fixed ips are assigned to ports (in neutron), this is where you have to associate the floating ips, too. | 14:32 |
| mkulke | i guess i am spoiled by the shortcut in my config: "networks: [network: {get_resource: fixed_network}] | 14:32 |
| mkulke | yeah, i understand the technical reasons | 14:33 |
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| mkulke | what if there are no floating ips allocated for the project, btw? | 14:34 |
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| radez | stevebaker: ping | 14:36 |
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| radez | When I call back into cfn to report my waitcondtion I get this error | 14:37 |
| radez | <ErrorResponse><Error><Message>User is not authorized to perform action</Message><Code>AccessDenied</Code><Type>Sender</Type></Error></ErrorResponse> | 14:37 |
| radez | anyone know what access I don't have in place | 14:38 |
| radez | ? | 14:38 |
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| jdandrea | Good question. I've never tried to find out, but my guess is it will fail. | 14:39 |
| jdandrea | (that was for mkulke) | 14:39 |
| mkulke | i'll try that now :) | 14:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Persisting dependency graph & resource versioning. https://review.openstack.org/123749 | 14:50 |
| jdandrea | As I'm being good and avoiding HARestarter like the plague, is there some other way to "restart" a resource, in particular a Server, via Heat? (Suspecting no.) If not, does anyone know of other alternatives? | 14:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Persisting dependency graph & resource versioning. https://review.openstack.org/123749 | 15:20 |
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| DaveJ_ | Hi Guys - could anyone offer some advice on my autoscaling group: http://pastebin.com/t7YqN4a5 | 15:27 |
| DaveJ_ | I want specify the port, but get_resource can't seem to find my_port. I'm assuming it's because it's nestled in the AutoScalingGroup | 15:28 |
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| DaveJ_ | is there a way to reference these, some sort of namespcaing ? | 15:28 |
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| therve | DaveJ_, You can't create a group like that | 15:42 |
| therve | DaveJ_, You need a separate template with your scaling unit | 15:42 |
| therve | See https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml#L68 | 15:42 |
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| DaveJ_ | therve: Thanks, already looked at that, although it didn't really help. I have no problem when I use an external template, but I was wanting to include everything inline, to avoid hosting extra files | 15:54 |
| therve | DaveJ_, You can't do that. | 15:55 |
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| therve | Either you have one resource in your group, or you use an external file | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jose Castanos proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Software config hook for configuring with Chef-Solo https://review.openstack.org/80229 | 16:00 |
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| DaveJ_ | therve: Thanks | 16:06 |
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| AJaeger_ | heat cores, could you import translations, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120004/ | 17:46 |
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| DanyC | hi all - i have a prob which i'm trying to solve on IceHouse. I'm creating a stack by defploying 2 instances. Now i need during the instance creation to generate the ssh keys on each instance and then transfer between both instances so i can have passwordless ssh between them. | 18:06 |
| DanyC | Does anyone has any idea how i can do this via HEAT? I know i can do that by injecting some bash script into user_Data however that will only sort out the key generation and not the transfer - since will ask me for a password | 18:07 |
| DanyC | i read about cloud config but not sure i can generate most importantly how to transfer it to the toher instance | 18:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Add a required 'args' to do_list() https://review.openstack.org/123627 | 18:12 |
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| zaneb | SpamapS: if you bring the sombrero, I will wear it at summit ;) | 18:48 |
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| SpamapS | zaneb: sorry, harlowja already beat you to it https://www.dropbox.com/s/mvimdrf8q2eq3mn/joshtalk.png?dl=0 | 18:56 |
| harlowja | :-P | 18:56 |
| harlowja | we can share it, ha | 18:56 |
| zaneb | oh man, there's no competing with that | 18:56 |
| zaneb | I'll just stick to my fedora | 18:57 |
| harlowja | ha | 19:00 |
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| SpamapS | zaneb: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j6wms2iq6bkpkdz/ZaneTalk.png?dl=0 | 19:06 |
| zaneb | lol | 19:06 |
| zaneb | I really wish that little footer that openstack-dev inserts into every email included a link to that message in the web archive | 19:12 |
| zaneb | I feel like I spend half my day looking those up | 19:12 |
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| ryansb | that would be awesome | 19:30 |
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| stevebaker | radez_g0n3, pong | 19:33 |
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| radez | stevebaker: found my issue, it was an haproxy infront of keystone issue. | 19:43 |
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| stevebaker | radez, good. still getting the cfn auth fail? | 19:54 |
| radez | stevebaker: nope, I foudn that issue too... the cfn url was misconfigured. it had ec2tokern in it and heat was appending it again so the url was ec2token/ec2token which got a 404 | 19:56 |
| radez | [root@broker ~]# service activemq status | 19:57 |
| stevebaker | heh | 19:57 |
| radez | oops, sry | 19:57 |
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| pas-ha | meeting? | 20:01 |
| ryansb | yup | 20:02 |
| stevebaker | zaneb, yo | 20:02 |
| zaneb | o hai | 20:02 |
| zaneb | started | 20:02 |
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| DanyC | I've asked a question earlier but i lost connection hence appologize asking again. | 20:09 |
| DanyC | In IceHouse, i'm creating via HEAT a stackw ith 2 instances which needs to have passwordless ssh between them. Anyone can suggest if/ how to achieve that via HEAT to a) generate the key on each instance and b) transfer the keys between each instance? | 20:11 |
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| DanyC | anyone can help with any answer, suggestion? Can be done or it can't ? Thx | 20:15 |
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| pas-ha | DanyC, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Nova::KeyPair | 20:28 |
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| pas-ha | not sure it was in Icehouse though, most probably yes | 20:29 |
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| pas-ha | you could try create the keys, ref them as keys for your servers and use get_attr: [serverA, private_key] to inject the key content with cloud-init | 20:30 |
| pas-ha | i.e with user_data of the server, like with OS::Heat::CloudConfig etc | 20:31 |
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| DanyC | pas-pa: many thanks for the direction. Will give it a go! | 20:32 |
| DanyC | pas-ha: sorry for the typo | 20:33 |
| pas-ha | DanyC, np | 20:33 |
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| pas-ha | asalkeld, still trying to parse. our default.yaml maps AWSCloudWatchAlarm to CWLiteAlarm, yes? | 21:01 |
| asalkeld | yes | 21:02 |
| asalkeld | but deployers need to change that | 21:02 |
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| asalkeld | we should change the default | 21:02 |
| asalkeld | maybe I'll add that to the patch | 21:02 |
| pas-ha | ok, got it. but as I said I will try to check with services team about there knowledge of the cloud zoo out there :) | 21:03 |
| asalkeld | ok, let me know | 21:03 |
| pas-ha | s/there/their | 21:03 |
| pas-ha | sure | 21:03 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, this reliance on tempurl's - is swift installed on most clouds? | 21:24 |
| asalkeld | can we rely on it | 21:24 |
| asalkeld | (being there) | 21:24 |
| asalkeld | or is just going have to be an option | 21:24 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: it would be an option, like the cfn api, heat api, zaqar (or ssh ;) | 21:27 |
| asalkeld | ok | 21:27 |
| stevebaker | rather an option like cloudwatch api, ceilometer api | 21:27 |
| asalkeld | i was just hoping we wouldn't need too many options | 21:27 |
| stevebaker | it solves all the auth issues though | 21:28 |
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| asalkeld | would it be too harsh to say "to use heat standalone, the cloud you are talking *must* have swift" | 21:42 |
| asalkeld | it would be good to know what the swift install rates were like | 21:42 |
| stevebaker | well, "to use heat standalone without swift requires network access from your clouds servers to heat, which may be impractical" | 21:44 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: our docs should be able to explain all the options and tradeoffs | 21:47 |
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| asalkeld | ok, well let's not make more options than we really need | 21:48 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The openstack-infra/config repo will be frozen for project-configuration changes starting at 00:01 UTC. If you have a pending configuration change that has not merged or is not in the queue, please see us in #openstack-infra. | 21:57 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add an option to disable cloud watch lite https://review.openstack.org/123039 | 22:27 |
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| stevebaker | crikey, somebody vote zaneb on to the TC already! ;) | 22:41 |
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| asalkeld | isn't he doing that him self? | 22:47 |
| asalkeld | :-O | 22:47 |
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| asalkeld | but i do agree that our main use case is not just described by wordpress | 22:48 |
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| zaneb | guys, if y'all have an opinion weigh in, because this stuff pretty much gets decided on the basis of who is noisiest on the ML | 22:50 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: dude, *reading* those threads is taking up enough of my time | 23:01 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: you're telling me | 23:02 |
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| * zaneb has been working on that email since Friday | 23:02 | |
| ryansb | O.o | 23:02 |
| stevebaker | I'm going to guess this won't be ready for rc1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1289560 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90109/1 | 23:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1289560 in heat "Missing template version breaks template parsing" [Medium,In progress] | 23:05 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: I have an action item to re-read that and work out what still needs to be done | 23:06 |
| stevebaker | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1300830 looks more like a feature | 23:06 |
| zaneb | but 'no' is probably a good bet ;) | 23:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1300830 in python-heatclient "stack abandon should have a dry run option" [Medium,In progress] | 23:06 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: I'd call it more of a "stack abandon is irretrievably broken without this" | 23:07 |
| zaneb | and will have to be a "tech preview" _again_ as a result | 23:07 |
| stevebaker | yep | 23:08 |
| zaneb | we should probably add a config option and disable it by default | 23:08 |
| stevebaker | disable abandon? | 23:08 |
| zaneb | yes | 23:08 |
| stevebaker | it would still be useful if you have no intention of adopting | 23:08 |
| zaneb | it's not safe | 23:09 |
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| stevebaker | A review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122274/ can close https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1304743 | 23:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1304743 in heat "Exceptions Error and ResourceFailure cannot be serialized over RPC" [Medium,In progress] | 23:10 |
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| zaneb | done | 23:12 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: why don't you just test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117076/3 with a list? that py26 stuff is hairy | 23:21 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, mmm well it's not really testing the use case | 23:23 |
| asalkeld | it was {some_func()] | 23:24 |
| asalkeld | and that returned a string instead of a dict | 23:24 |
| asalkeld | with py26 it's just different | 23:24 |
| asalkeld | and I care less about 26 as we will soon remove support for it | 23:25 |
| asalkeld | i believe this coming cycle | 23:25 |
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| zaneb | \o/ | 23:31 |
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| gus | if I update a resourcegroup, it looks like heat nukes the entire set of sub-resources at once. Is there any way to have that be a rolling update? | 23:39 |
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| asalkeld | gus not sure | 23:54 |
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