Friday, 2014-10-03

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jogohttp://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#137086501:21
jogowe are still seeing hits for that even though its marked as fixed01:21
jogoSpamapS: ^01:22
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: HOT for IIS with Drupal  https://review.openstack.org/12020202:17
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openstackgerritMike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Spec for balancing scaling groups across AZs  https://review.openstack.org/10590702:53
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Remove cinder-keystone-setup script  https://review.openstack.org/12561503:13
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Provide support status info for some resources  https://review.openstack.org/11911003:16
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Add current_size attribute for OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup  https://review.openstack.org/12306603:27
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Hard delete backup stack after successful update.  https://review.openstack.org/11198603:27
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asalkeld_https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure04:00
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asalkeld_bug pruning :-(04:16
asalkeld_hard work04:16
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed a change to openstack/heat: Provide support status info for OS::Glance::Image  https://review.openstack.org/12587404:46
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skraynevmorning06:54
skraynevasalkeld_ hey06:54
asalkeld_hi skraynev06:54
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* asalkeld has being bug pruning today06:55
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asalkeldreally unrewarding button pushing06:56
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OSprofiler integration into Heat  https://review.openstack.org/11811506:56
skraynevzaneb: if you have couple minutes could you take a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117473/06:59
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Improve error for custom resource  https://review.openstack.org/12558507:04
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pas-hamorning all07:12
asalkeldhi pas-ha07:12
skraynevmorning pas-ha07:13
sdake_asalkeld you get karma each time you push a butotn07:15
sdake_doesn't that make it worth it?07:15
asalkeldmaybe if it was a sip of beer07:15
asalkeld:-)07:15
asalkeldthat would be a popular job07:15
sdake_i don't find launchpad produces very good metrics of effort07:17
asalkeldyeah, i dont' think anyone looks at that karma thing07:18
sdake_so I added a gate07:18
asalkeldto you house?07:18
sdake_it was fun!07:18
sdake_I am going to mkae a container gate next07:18
sdake_that will be harder07:18
sdake_asalkeld did you drop off solum07:19
asalkeldyar07:19
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make sure that AutoScalingGroup depends on the launch config  https://review.openstack.org/12525107:24
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sdake_boy launchpad is dumb07:44
sdake_submit a bug - fails - submit again, two bugs07:44
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asalkeldbbl: supper/weekend07:50
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shardymorning all07:58
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sdake_hey shardy08:05
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my_openstack_usehello08:24
my_openstack_useI'm trying to get a custom heat notification listener to work08:25
my_openstack_useI need to configure heat in heat.conf for it to work08:26
my_openstack_useIf I change notification_driver to nova.openstack.common.notifier.rpc_notifier it works08:26
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my_openstack_usebut it doesn't work with notification_driver = heat.openstack.common.notifier.rpc_notifier08:27
my_openstack_usewhat does that mean?08:27
my_openstack_usehow are they different?08:28
shardymy_openstack_use: have you diffed them?  Possibly the nova oslo notifier code is newer, we might need to update ours08:29
my_openstack_useI'm not sure where are the sources08:29
shardymy_openstack_use: how did you install openstack?08:30
my_openstack_usedevstack08:30
shardyThe sources will probably be in /opt/stack/ then08:31
shardyOr wherever you specified in your localrc08:31
my_openstack_useshardy: Ok, let me check08:31
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shardyActually - therve, are we using oslo.messaging for all notifier stuff now?08:34
shardy:q08:34
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therveshardy, Yeah08:37
therveIt should work when you specify heat.openstack.common.notifier.rpc_notifier08:38
my_openstack_useshardy: I've grepped /opt/stack/nova and /opt/stack/heat and I've noticed a difference in egg-info/entry_points.txt files08:38
my_openstack_usehttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4mepNKs508:39
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thervemy_openstack_use, It should be present in heat entry points as well, if you use a recent enough heat version08:40
my_openstack_useno, I don't08:40
my_openstack_usetherve: and it is not08:40
therveYou don't what?08:41
my_openstack_usetherve: I am using July's version08:41
therveOK, you should update then08:41
my_openstack_usetherve: it is a sensitive matter right now08:42
my_openstack_usetherve: it there any potential damage from using the nova's driver for some time?08:42
therveNo idea.08:43
therveUsing some random heat version from july is not a great idea though.08:43
my_openstack_usetherve: We are planning on moving to stable from master08:44
my_openstack_usetherve: does stable have the heat driver?08:44
my_openstack_use*branch08:44
therveproposed/juno does, not stable/icehouse though08:45
my_openstack_usetherve: So, we'll be stuck using nova's driver for now?08:47
thervemy_openstack_use, Or just use the right driver? IE messaging.08:47
goobljatherve: we have script that listens rabbitmq with a help of kombu library...08:49
thervegooblja, And?08:50
goobljatherve: if we use messaging then notifications dont show in the queue08:51
thervegooblja, Presumably it should be exactly the same08:51
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my_openstack_usetherve: let me try08:52
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my_openstack_usetherve: yes, it appears to work!08:55
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goobljayes Big Thx :)08:55
therveCool08:56
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my_openstack_usetherve: so is 'messaging' the best driver for allowing components to listen to each other's notifications?08:56
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thervemy_openstack_use, AFAIK it's used for publishing notifications, not listening08:57
my_openstack_useoh, I see08:58
my_openstack_usetherve: I guess this works for us08:59
my_openstack_usetherve: thanks a lot for you help08:59
therveThere is a messagingv2 driver, but I don't know the differences08:59
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my_openstack_usetherve: we might look into it, thanks09:07
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enable breaking test for adopt operation  https://review.openstack.org/12591209:22
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anantazaneb o/11:03
anantathe stack create/update timeout is commented by default in heat config, and I think we should uncomment it and give some value by default11:05
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shardyananta: You can do that if you wish, all config options are commented by default11:06
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shardystack_action_timeout=360011:06
shardyThe default is 3600, as illustrated by the sample config11:07
anantayeah, but it is commented and I am not sure if that is enough time in provisioning stacks in production11:07
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shardyananta: Like I said, you can give it whatever value you like (either globally or per-stack)11:08
shardyIt's not something we need to change upstream11:08
shardyAlso, the current default aligns with the default keystone token expiration, so IMO it's a sane starting point11:10
anantaok, i was thinking about uncommenting it by default in upstream...IMHO, people using heat directly may not be that much aware of consequences of not giving a default timeout value11:11
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shardyananta: uncommenting it will do nothing, it already has a default11:11
anantaoh! but for some reason my devstack shows timeout as null in DB :(11:13
anantashardy: I have all defaults though11:13
shardyThat probably just means you didn't pass a per-stack timeout11:13
anantaok, got it!11:14
anantashardy: thankyou!11:14
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Improve error for custom resource  https://review.openstack.org/12558511:29
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Use host information passed while starting service  https://review.openstack.org/11940511:37
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ikke-tguys, help needed regarding heat12:04
ikke-twhile trying to setup heat domain:12:04
ikke-t"openstack ... domain create heat ..." returns:12:04
ikke-ti get ERROR: cliff.app No connection adapters were found for 'ip:5000/v3/domains'12:04
ikke-tso how to create the v3 endpoint?12:05
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Putnsip is replaced by the IP of the node, that has the identity service running on it, right?12:07
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ikke-tPutns, should i create another endpoint like the normal 5000/v2.0 , replacing the v2.0 with v3?12:11
ikke-tor should I replace it?12:11
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ikke-ti fear the replacement will screw up the old interfaces12:12
Putnsi didn't have to create a new endpoint12:12
shardyikke-t: No, you don't want duplicate endpoints - the easiest way is to specify --os-url to openstackclient12:12
shardyin theory keystone should now work with unversioned endpoints, but I've not yet tried it12:12
shardyhttp://hardysteven.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/heat-auth-model-updates-part-2-stack.html12:12
ikke-ti'm doing it  now like that:12:13
ikke-topenstack --os-token ${ADMIN_TOKEN} --os-url=${IDENTITY_IP}:5000/v3 --os-identity-api-version=3 domain create heat --description "Owns users and projects created by heat"12:13
openstackgerritJan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/heat: Convert bool/int values into string for string properties  https://review.openstack.org/12535612:13
ikke-tand it complains about the  ERROR: cliff.app No connection adapters were found for 'ip:5000/v3/domains'12:13
ikke-twhat the heck is that?12:13
shardyikke-t: and your ${IDENTITY_IP} is like http://192.168.0.55 or something right?12:13
ikke-tyes12:14
shardy(e.g an IP matching the identity endpoint in the catalog12:14
ikke-tuups, missing the http12:14
ikke-tthere's the reason, thanks shardy!12:14
shardyikke-t: np - you might consider raising an openstackclient bug so they can improve that error message :)12:15
ikke-tshardy, i'm actually doing the same with this guide: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_OpenStack_Platform/5/html/Installation_and_Configuration_Guide/sect-Configure_the_Orchestration_Service.html12:17
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shardyikke-t: ah, cool - those docs were derived from my blog post so it's the same steps :)12:19
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ikke-tyep, I was first reading your blog, thank you, and then thought I try it with the $vendor supported way12:23
ikke-twhich is the same12:23
ikke-tand you blog actually warns about that right before the command :)12:24
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pas-hacan I assign an AWS WaitCondition to each member of the AWS Autoscaling group?12:49
pas-haI have a load balanced scaling group and instances take quite long to install an app after they are create_complete12:49
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pas-haso I would like to have a composite resource inside the AWS autoscaling group consisting of the instance and wait condition (and handle). Is it possible?12:51
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skraynevpas-ha: I think yes, but I had never tested it.12:53
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shardypas-ha: aren't you describing a nested stack containing an instance, a wait condition and a waitcondition handle?12:55
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shardyThat is possible via the OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup resource, but not the AWS one AFAIK12:55
shardyas you can only launch instance resources via the AWS ASG12:56
pas-hashardy, that's what I also found out. But it seems I'm forced to use the AWS ASG at the moment12:56
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pas-haas I have to use AWS LB (nova-network, arrgh..), and it seems only AWS SG auto-updates the load balancer itself12:59
sdakezaneb you can go ahead and delete our 1:1 if you like13:00
shardypas-ha: one way would be to override the SCALED_RESOURCE_TYPE in the autoscaling group environment, but I don't think there's any non-code-hacking way to do that13:00
pas-hayep, also cam to my mind.13:01
zanebsdake: I thought I did13:01
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zanebsdake: or rather, I changed the end date of the series to some time in the past13:01
sdakezaneb ok hopefully that doesn't bust zimbr a;)13:02
zaneb:D13:02
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skraynevzaneb: I will added my aim for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117473/13:12
skraynevI will be happy, if you find a couple minutes to read ;)13:13
zaneblooking...13:13
sdakezaneb for futuree refernfce, yo ucan right click, select "series" select delete13:13
zanebsdake: I know, but the SW engineer in me can't stand to rewrite history ;)13:14
zanebsdake: I actually forgot that I was the one who set it up and that it would send you an update, otherwise I probably would have just deleted it13:15
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zanebskraynev: I totally agree with your motivation. I'm sure the documentation can certainly be improved13:16
skraynevzaneb: will be enough docs changes in existing patch (of course, code changes I will remove according to you comment) or will be good to add something else?13:18
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zanebskraynev: it's hard to say because the current change is really confusing. You've got handle_delete_backup and handle_delete_snapshot the wrong way around in some cases but not others13:21
skraynevzaneb: ok, will update patch and then will decide ;)13:22
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FirespiritHi all, I tried to run some powershell code with heat template but it's don't seem to work. Where i can get log to understand why it's not working or who can help me with that?13:48
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Clarify snapshot deletion methods  https://review.openstack.org/11747315:02
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FirespiritHi all, I tried to run some powershell code with heat template but it's don't seem to work. Where i can get log to understand why it's not working or who can help me with that?15:35
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uberjFirespirit: can you log into the machine where it was supposed to be ran?15:48
uberjI usually do that and then run os-refresh-config15:49
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uberjzaneb: https://github.com/uberj/heat-standalone/blob/master/heat.yaml18:36
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Clean up signalling events after stack updates  https://review.openstack.org/12572319:45
openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Don't send multiple update-cancel messages to an event  https://review.openstack.org/12604619:45
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jdandreazaneb: I finally posted the steps to reproduce that handle_update() problem I'm seeing, with a minimal test case plugin and templates (zip).20:01
jdandreahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/137730620:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1377306 in heat "stack update from cli landing in resource plugin's handle_create() method" [Undecided,New]20:01
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* jdandrea is hoping it's pilot error, but hasn't found evidence to that effect just yet.20:01
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ryansbuberj: that's really cool, don't forget to add a license ;)20:04
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stevebakerzaneb: Am I missing something? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125989/20:30
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uberjryansb: what is the openstack licence of choice?20:33
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zanebstevebaker: wow, what an incredibly dickish change to the bug headline20:34
zanebuberj: Apache SL 2.020:35
ryansbuberj: I believe everything* is under Apache 2.020:35
stevebakerzaneb: fancy doing a revert which includes a skip?20:35
ryansb*all core components I've seen use this license, though I have not checked all licenses across all projects.20:36
zanebryansb: it's mandatory in the Foundation bylaws20:37
ryansbzaneb: thanks20:38
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zanebstevebaker: go ahead ;)20:41
zanebI changed the bug report back20:42
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stevebakerI'd rather go snowboarding20:42
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zanebstevebaker: ah, forgot you're still not really here20:45
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jdandreaDid someone mention snowboarding? :)20:54
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Docs - update JEOS building instructions  https://review.openstack.org/12607121:01
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Revert "Hard delete backup stack after successful update."  https://review.openstack.org/12608421:57
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pas-hazaneb, ping22:04
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openstackgerritJacques Uber proposed a change to openstack/heat: update docs to use correct stack list command  https://review.openstack.org/12608822:14
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zanebpas-ha: pong22:22
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pas-haabout those cancel-updates - thank you for cleaning them up. BTW I start to wonder if we really need a list of events associated with stack_id..22:23
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pas-haAFAIU there is only one "action" being executed on a particular stack - we have locks and everything.22:24
pas-haAs it is done now there may be many events created for the stack, but signalling is occuring only to all  of them together22:25
zanebI think in practice we're only able to create one at a time22:25
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pas-haDo you think with convergence (that I had in mind with making it a list) there will be a several actions being run on a articular stack?22:26
zanebyes, we will have multiple updates running at a time22:27
zanebso the implementation will have to change completely22:28
pas-haAnd might we need then to send a signal to a single "worker" chewing on the stack  and not al the others?22:28
zanebthere won't be a worker chewing on the stack in convergence22:28
zanebeach resource gets its own worker22:28
uberjhmm, how do I map a persons launchpad name to an IRC nick22:28
uberj?22:28
uberjthere needs to be an api for that22:28
pas-hauberj, ask said person to fill that field in their LP profile22:29
zanebuberj: there's s space to list it on your profile22:29
zanebIRC:    zaneb on irc.freenode.net22:29
uberjhttps://launchpad.net/~jan-provaznik22:30
zanebuberj: you can't force people to fill them in though ;)22:31
pas-hazaneb, but there still will be a dispatcher that disassembles the dep-graph and assigns workers. this dispatcher must then be responsible for killing etc those workers too22:31
pas-haright?22:31
uberjzaneb: do you know the guy?22:31
zanebnope22:31
zanebuberj: apparently he is one of my colleagues ;)22:31
uberjhaha22:31
* pas-ha off to read the specs22:32
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zanebpas-ha: when a resource is ready to do something, we'll put a message on a queue and a worker will pick it up22:32
zanebthere's no scheduling and no global view22:33
uberjoh, jprovazn is his irc nic. he joins this channel periodically22:33
uberjmust not have an irc bouncer22:33
uberjhe must have a life22:33
pas-hazaneb, so there will be a way to say "whoever doing smth with this resource - stop it"?22:34
zanebpas-ha: the real question is "what do we roll back _to_ when multiple updates are in progress?"22:34
zanebpas-ha: we'll just issue an update with whatever template we want to roll back to, but see above ^22:35
pas-haSo there would be resource versions of sort, right? If the error happens in the resource _and_ there is a resource with bigger version registered - do nothing22:37
pas-halet the next guy handle it22:37
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zanebyes, pretty much22:38
zanebdetails are sketchy at this stage ;)22:38
pas-hasure. main idea is not to reimplement git :)22:39
pas-haor vice versa? ;)22:39
zanebhopefully the amount of history we need to hang on to will be finite ;)22:40
pas-hazaneb, thanks for the chat and g'night all :)22:40
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FirespiritDoes OS::Neutron::Firewall can be use to disable windows firewall?23:49

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