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| asalkeld | any guys from hp bangalore? | 00:05 |
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| asalkeld | mmm, maybe a bit early | 00:05 |
| stevebaker | 5:40am, likelyu | 00:07 |
| asalkeld | yeah, I'll wait a bit | 00:08 |
| asalkeld | just want to find out if they have funding to pay for hotels - they said they might be able to do this | 00:08 |
| asalkeld | (which might influence peoples choices) | 00:08 |
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| * asalkeld heads off to webjet.com.au to see how much a flight costs to india | 00:09 | |
| SpamapS | asalkeld: hotels for you to visit them or vice-versa? :) | 00:09 |
| SpamapS | Hotels in Bangalore are really reasonable. HP has a particularly good rate at the Leela Palace. | 00:10 |
| asalkeld | for heaters to have the midcycle there | 00:10 |
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| asalkeld | i thought it would be a good way to include lots of the guys based there | 00:10 |
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| SpamapS | asalkeld: it is 12.5 hours from me.. and I've never experienced worse jet lag. That said, the food and excellent engineering were worth it. ;) | 00:11 |
| asalkeld | paris was 25 hours | 00:11 |
| asalkeld | can't be worse | 00:11 |
| lifeless | 32 for me | 00:11 |
| SpamapS | Oh to get there was 24 hours. I mean 12.5 hours timezonewise | 00:11 |
| asalkeld | o, i see | 00:11 |
| asalkeld | yeah total confusion | 00:12 |
| SpamapS | I will never, ever complain about the length of travel in the presence of our friends from the southern hemisphere. :) | 00:12 |
| asalkeld | :-) | 00:12 |
| lifeless | :) | 00:12 |
| asalkeld | well paris return was ~$2000, and india is ~$1200 | 00:13 |
| SpamapS | In fact the four 9.5 hour flights round-trip weren't nearly as bad as the two weeks of "zomg wtf time does my body think it is now?" | 00:13 |
| asalkeld | will be better for stevebaker and i | 00:13 |
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| asalkeld | i am trying this: http://www.jetlagrooster.com/ | 00:15 |
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| stevebaker | I've had 2 full nights sleep, not feeling too shabby now | 00:16 |
| Qiming_ | lucky stevebaker | 00:17 |
| asalkeld | i woke up at 2am and took sleeping pills - zonk out until 7am | 00:18 |
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| asalkeld | feeling weird but ok | 00:18 |
| Qiming_ | I hope I won't fall asleep on my way walking to the office | 00:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: A collection of small changes to improve usability https://review.openstack.org/130682 | 01:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Failed res no need UpdateReplace which has nested_stack https://review.openstack.org/130107 | 01:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Xiao Xi LIU proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Truncate last_metadata file dumped by cfn-init hook https://review.openstack.org/133407 | 02:30 |
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| elynn | morning guys :) | 02:37 |
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| cmyster | morning | 04:08 |
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| shardy | morning all | 08:41 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: Hey, have you seen stevebaker's software-config-trigger series? | 08:49 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133604/ | 08:49 |
| shardy | I like it, and plan to rebase the decouple-nested series on it, but wanted to make sure you weren't likely to object, given your previous preference for ReST over RPC | 08:50 |
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| shardy | FWIW I think RPC for internal engine-engine communication makes more sense, as we can expose "private" interfaces we don't want to add to the ReST surface | 08:50 |
| shardy | also, less overhead obviously | 08:50 |
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| elynn | Hi guys ~ Anyone have time to review this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127699/ | 09:34 |
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| pas-ha | morning all | 09:41 |
| cmyster | morning btw | 09:48 |
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| inc0 | o/ | 09:53 |
| cmyster | hey inc0 | 09:53 |
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| asalkeld | hi shardy | 10:05 |
| asalkeld | yeah I briefly saw it | 10:05 |
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| asalkeld | (then fell asleep) | 10:05 |
| asalkeld | jetlag... | 10:05 |
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| elynn | hi asalkeld and pas-ha , do you have time to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127699/? | 10:19 |
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| pas-ha | elynn, will do | 10:20 |
| asalkeld | elynn, one thing straight away | 10:21 |
| asalkeld | please quickly put Co-Authored-by: | 10:21 |
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| asalkeld | ok miquel uploaded the last | 10:22 |
| asalkeld | don't worry | 10:22 |
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| shardy | elynn: A question about publicURL endpoint_type default changing to None | 10:23 |
| shardy | Does that definitely work? | 10:23 |
| shardy | I mean, if it's not passed, many clients default to that, but if we explicitly pass None in the kwargs, does keystone still give us the publicURL endpoint? | 10:24 |
| elynn | shardy, This patch is not mine... I just need this function... | 10:25 |
| elynn | So maybe original author may know why... | 10:25 |
| shardy | elynn: Hmm, okay - but you've tested it? | 10:25 |
| elynn | Yeah, I test it and it's ok. | 10:25 |
| elynn | At least it can work. | 10:26 |
| elynn | Off work now, will online when I got home ;) | 10:27 |
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| asalkeld | [Heat] midcycle meetup venue selection | 10:29 |
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| asalkeld | just sent to the ML ^ | 10:29 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: FWIW I think we (all of openstack) should try to improve remote collaboration | 10:35 |
| shardy | punting all the hard discussions to summit and f2f meetups totally sucks if for whatever reason you can't make them | 10:36 |
| asalkeld | yeah it's very expensive going down this "face to face meetup" | 10:36 |
| shardy | (thanks again for looping me last week btw ;) | 10:36 |
| shardy | looping me in even | 10:36 |
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| asalkeld | like can't people pick up a phone | 10:36 |
| asalkeld | pas-ha, you said "can't make it to india"? | 10:37 |
| shardy | Also, if we've all got way too much work to do, flying long distance and recovering from the travel wipes out a lot of otherwise potentially productive time | 10:38 |
| asalkeld | hp might offer to pay for the hotel | 10:38 |
| asalkeld | shardy, yeah | 10:38 |
| pas-ha | I meant "would prefer not to" :) | 10:38 |
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| asalkeld | ok | 10:39 |
| pas-ha | about the big online meeting - I don't know of a good free crossplatform tool that would allow big video chat | 10:39 |
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| pas-ha | free Skype - no, Google HAngouts - max 15 people | 10:39 |
| pas-ha | WebEx - sucks on Linux | 10:40 |
| asalkeld | I am just not convinced everyone needs to be on the same call | 10:40 |
| pas-ha | does somebody has an alternative to those? | 10:40 |
| asalkeld | do topical stuff | 10:40 |
| asalkeld | feature based | 10:40 |
| shardy | We're using http://bluejeans.com/ which works fine for me on Fedora (with a browser plugin) | 10:41 |
| shardy | I assume that can be arranged to enable external participants too | 10:41 |
| pas-ha | shardy, thanks, will explore | 10:41 |
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| asalkeld | shardy, do you have the latest fedora? | 10:45 |
| shardy | asalkeld: I'm on F20 which is the latest released Fedora | 10:45 |
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| shardy | Not tried the F21 beta yet | 10:46 |
| asalkeld | ok | 10:46 |
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| asalkeld | gnome on ubuntu is a bit wobbly | 10:46 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: I added my preferences based on proximity/flight cost | 10:46 |
| asalkeld | thinking of trying fedora again | 10:46 |
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| asalkeld | ta shardy | 10:46 |
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| shardy | I'm not actually sure if the more expensive options would be approved thus if-need-be | 10:47 |
| shardy | asalkeld: F20 has been totally solid for me | 10:48 |
| shardy | I've been less brave about pre-releases after getting burned a while ago doing an upgrade to an early beta ;) | 10:48 |
| asalkeld | shardy, i might wait for f21 | 10:48 |
| asalkeld | that's a bit of a productivity burn (switching os) | 10:49 |
| martin_____ | Hi - I was wondering if it was possible to query attributes of an entity passed in as a parameter to a heat template. Specifically, I want to query the cidr of a subnet, the id of which is a parameter of my template, and use it to build a security group. I could pass the cidr as a separate parameter, but that's more error prone. | 10:49 |
| shardy | Fedora upgrades (between released versions) have actually worked for me lately, so not too bad | 10:49 |
| shardy | fedup seems to work reasonably well, as to live upgrades via yum, mostly | 10:49 |
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| shardy | martin_____: No, you can only query attributes of resources within the same stack (template) | 10:51 |
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| asalkeld | martin_____, we have some evil plans to make that work | 10:52 |
| martin_____ | shardy: thanks. That's a shame seems like it would be a useful function. | 10:52 |
| asalkeld | the external_resource() thing | 10:52 |
| martin_____ | aslkeld: Great! Kilo? | 10:52 |
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| asalkeld | martin_____, yeah should not be hard to do | 10:53 |
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| martin_____ | asalkeld: I'll look forward to that. Any way I can work around this in juno? | 10:54 |
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| asalkeld | not really, other than passing this stuff in via parameters | 10:55 |
| martin_____ | asalkeld: ok - appreciate the help. | 10:55 |
| asalkeld | martin_____, have a look here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-heat-summit-topics | 10:55 |
| asalkeld | line 40 | 10:56 |
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| asalkeld | martin_____, the idea there is - you put a reference to an external resource and can then use get_attr and get_resource on it. but heat will not update or delete it | 10:58 |
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| martin_____ | asalkeld: sounds like that would do the trick. | 10:59 |
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| asalkeld | ok, i might up the priority on that then | 11:00 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: What was the final outcome of the RPC versioning discussions? Should we be bumping the version now anytime anything gets added? | 11:02 |
| shardy | e.g https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92125/21/heat/rpc/client.py | 11:02 |
| asalkeld | ga, shardy I had some resistence to using versioned objects across rpc | 11:03 |
| asalkeld | (that's what I want) | 11:03 |
| asalkeld | the manual rpc thing is, well too manual | 11:04 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Does the manual thing even solve the problem? | 11:04 |
| asalkeld | shardy, what we need is a howto | 11:04 |
| shardy | e.g if we bump the version, and change the call's to contain a "version", I'm still not really clear if anything works on upgrade, or if the call will just fail if it hits an engine with the wrong version | 11:05 |
| asalkeld | shardy, if we are upgrading engines seperately to each other they need to be able to talk to older versions of them selves | 11:05 |
| shardy | E.g stevebaker asked for magic strings in the RPC calls here: | 11:05 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115732/13/heat/rpc/client.py | 11:05 |
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| shardy | it's not clear to me if that actually solves the upgrade problem or just better documents the requirement | 11:05 |
| asalkeld | mmm, not sure | 11:06 |
| martin_____ | asalkeld: re upping priority - that would be much appreciated. | 11:06 |
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| asalkeld | the way versioned objects work is quite neat | 11:06 |
| asalkeld | if the version number is larger that what it knows it just forwards it | 11:06 |
| asalkeld | (hoping the next engine that picks it up can deal with it) | 11:07 |
| shardy | asalkeld: I don't really mind how we do it, I just think if we're moving to the overhead of versioning, it should solve the upgrade problem | 11:07 |
| shardy | otherwise, what's the point | 11:07 |
| shardy | Ah, I see | 11:07 |
| pas-ha | AFAIR we settled on just bumping RPC version in RPC calls, but we need those version translation hacks for the DB stuff | 11:07 |
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| shardy | but we can't solve the problem where an API has a version which is below what all the engines have (or ahead I guess?) | 11:08 |
| shardy | So we'd have to upgrade half the engines, then all the API's then the rest of the engines? | 11:08 |
| asalkeld | shardy, yeah - you would need at lest one new engine | 11:08 |
| shardy | pas-ha: I'm fine with bumping, but with the code we currently have, I'm not clear it actually solves the problem | 11:09 |
| shardy | Or does oslo.messaging do the forwarding thing for us already? | 11:09 |
| pas-ha | yes, that came to my mind too - do we have a retry logic in callers to try to call other RPC endpoints when the first one refuses the version being asked for? | 11:10 |
| asalkeld | shardy, no it doesn't do that for you | 11:10 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: If versioned objects do, lets do that then | 11:11 |
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| shardy | I just don't see the point of -1ing every review which touches the RPC intefaces for version bumps if it doesn't solve any problem | 11:12 |
| asalkeld | agree | 11:12 |
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| inc0 | if you talked about mid cycle - I'm up for online meeting, will be much more likely for me (and other from my team) to attend | 11:21 |
| inc0 | any travel would need to be planned in advance | 11:22 |
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| pas-ha | Meeting? | 12:01 |
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| Qiming__ | no meeting? | 12:06 |
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| pas-ha | do we have a #openstack-meetings today? | 12:07 |
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| asalkeld | pas-ha, doh | 12:16 |
| asalkeld | did we just miss the heat meeting? | 12:17 |
| asalkeld | shardy, ^ | 12:17 |
| asalkeld | i am a zombi | 12:17 |
| pas-ha | I'm from my phone now, otherwise I could've started it.. | 12:18 |
| asalkeld | no biggie, not too many people jumping up and down | 12:18 |
| asalkeld | Qiming__, ooops sorry my bad | 12:18 |
| Qiming__ | np, :) | 12:19 |
| asalkeld | ok, night all | 12:21 |
| asalkeld | crazy, missing the meeting - blush | 12:21 |
| Qiming__ | g'night | 12:21 |
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| zaneb | shardy: so did I miss the Heat meeting already? | 12:38 |
| zaneb | here I was thinking I was half an hour early, but actually daylight savings ended while I was away in France :( | 12:38 |
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| inc0 | will meeting occur today? | 13:04 |
| Qiming | inc0, no | 13:04 |
| ryansb | inc0: if you're like me, you missed it by an hour | 13:04 |
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| inc0 | well, meh | 13:05 |
| ryansb | I forgot UTC doesn't do daylight savings, and the meeting was in fact at 7am EST (instead of 8am EDT) | 13:05 |
| inc0 | ah, wonderful | 13:06 |
| inc0 | so its ended already? did anyone move convergence topic there? | 13:06 |
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| pfreund_ | I would like to be sure of something before creating a request on launchpad. If I create a Nova::Server with heat, is it possible to retrieve the name of the instance (with the -xxxxxxxx) with heat cli ? | 13:07 |
| pfreund_ | Is it something that should be in resource-show output ? | 13:08 |
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| ryansb | inc0: yes. It's alright, I made the exact same mistake. Time zones are hard. | 13:09 |
| Qiming | pfreund_, yes, resource_name | 13:09 |
| inc0 | especially if your callendar is oblivious to it | 13:10 |
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| pfreund_ | Qiming: you mean if you give "Name" parameter | 13:10 |
| pfreund_ | but if you don't ? | 13:10 |
| Qiming | pfreund_, it will give you a generated name? | 13:11 |
| pfreund_ | (If you give Name parameter in the template for the server ressource) | 13:11 |
| pfreund_ | nop | 13:11 |
| pfreund_ | ot maybe I'm not up to date | 13:11 |
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| pfreund_ | Qiming: resource_name is the generated name for you ? | 13:12 |
| Qiming | pfreund_, let me check | 13:12 |
| Qiming | pfreund_, resource_name is the name you give the OS::Nova::Server | 13:13 |
| pfreund_ | so the generated name ? | 13:14 |
| Qiming | pfreund_, but you can get the name you assigned to the Server by { get_attr: [Server, name] } | 13:14 |
| inc0 | hmf, no logs after meeting? | 13:14 |
| inc0 | did it actually happen?;) | 13:15 |
| Qiming | inc0, it didn't happen | 13:15 |
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| pfreund_ | Qiming: I have lot of ways to retrieve this name that's not a problem, but I think I should be able to retrieve it by heat, not with a output or with nova cli | 13:15 |
| inc0 | aw, thats why;) thanks Qiming | 13:15 |
| Qiming | daylight saving is causing some confusion | 13:15 |
| inc0 | it does | 13:15 |
| inc0 | anyway, calendar updated, lunch time it is then;) | 13:16 |
| inc0 | cya in a bit | 13:16 |
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| Qiming | pfreund_, I'm afraid that is not what Heat can do | 13:17 |
| pfreund_ | Qiming: but it's Heat which generate this name right ? | 13:18 |
| pfreund_ | heat can do that but should am I right ? | 13:19 |
| pfreund_ | can't do sorry | 13:19 |
| Qiming | yes, pfreund_, Heat will respect the name the template has assigned to a server | 13:19 |
| Qiming | if the template didn't do this, Heat will generate a name, with random characters | 13:20 |
| Qiming | heat resource-show is a generic command which meant to be applicable to any resource types, not just OS::Nova::Server | 13:21 |
| pfreund_ | but actually the resource name is wrong in resource-show output if you let heat generate the name with random characters | 13:22 |
| Qiming | if you really need that name, you are supposed to do a get_attr and expose the value via output | 13:22 |
| pfreund_ | yes... | 13:23 |
| shardy | zaneb: AFAIK the meeting didn't happen (I waited for a while but nobody was around, so I went for lunch) | 13:24 |
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| ryansb | shardy: it seems everyone forgot about daylight savings. | 13:35 |
| shardy | ryansb: Aha | 13:36 |
| ryansb | (including me) | 13:36 |
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| pfreund_ | Qiming: I reported bug 1391888 | 13:40 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1391888 in heat "resource-show gives a wrong resource_name when using generated names" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1391888 | 13:40 |
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| pfreund_ | shardy: should I create a new bug in launchpad for our discussion 2 weeks ago about the 100 stack limit per tenant ? | 13:50 |
| shardy | pfreund_: Yes, please do, including the use-case | 13:51 |
| pfreund_ | ok | 13:51 |
| shardy | arguably it's a feature request, but lets just capture it somewhere for now | 13:51 |
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| pfreund_ | I created bug 1391898. I know that there is larger discussion about quotas in heat, but here is a capture :) | 14:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1391898 in heat "100 stack per tenant limit should be a quota" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1391898 | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat code https://review.openstack.org/133977 | 15:20 |
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| cmyster | shardy: there ? | 15:59 |
| shardy | cmyster: hi | 15:59 |
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| * cmyster has mixed feeling about wayland and F21... but still in beta | 16:00 | |
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| cmyster | just wondered about wayland... | 16:03 |
| cmyster | personally I have a pc with a slackware on it so I never have issues like 'crashes' | 16:03 |
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| Sventek | good morning. I have a working template in heat/openstack, but am now trying to run it against AWS. the problem that keeps popping up in the logs (or when I run cfn-init manually) is: Exception: invalid metadata. I have searched all around, last resort is asking here. Any info on how to troubleshoot this error would be greatly appreciated | 16:03 |
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| zaneb | Sventek: you're running the Amazon cfn-init (not the one from heat-cfn-tools)? | 16:06 |
| cmyster | Sventek: may we see the template? maybe something is wrong with it | 16:06 |
| Sventek | hmm. lemme see something. I am running the one from heat-cfn-tools | 16:06 |
| zaneb | Sventek: it's probably looking in the wrong place for the metadata. You should run Amazon's tools on AWS | 16:07 |
| Sventek | this is not the same as the AWS one? is there a different package or something? the template is a monster, and I'd have to really make sure it's sanitized. but, this kind of points me in a new direction. what is the amazon tool needed? sorry, new to AWS. as I stated. this works wonderfully in openstack | 16:08 |
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| Sventek | I've currently got this package installed (centos): heat-cfntools-1.2.6-4.el6.noarch | 16:10 |
| Sventek | admittedly not AWS (says heat right in it) | 16:10 |
| zaneb | so the original cfn-init is part of a package called aws-cfn-bootstrap. I believe AWS images have e.g. a yum repo installed by default that allows you to install them in the userdata before running cfn-init | 16:10 |
| Sventek | checking now. thx | 16:11 |
| cmyster | bbl | 16:11 |
| ryansb | The Amazon linux instances should have cfn-init by default | 16:12 |
| zaneb | Sventek: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSCloudFormation/latest/UserGuide/cfn-helper-scripts-reference.html | 16:12 |
| Sventek | this is a custom image. I tried against the community also. lemme check that link. thx zane. | 16:12 |
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| Sventek | ok. i looks like you're right. not looking the the correct place for metadata: | 16:15 |
| Sventek | WARNING [2014-11-12 16:14:49,077] Unable to retrieve remote metadata : No credentials! | 16:15 |
| Sventek | WARNING [2014-11-12 16:14:49,077] Unable to open local metadata : /var/cache/heat-cfntools/last_metadata | 16:15 |
| Sventek | WARNING [2014-11-12 16:14:49,077] Unable to open local metadata : /var/lib/heat-cfntools/cfn-init-data | 16:15 |
| Sventek | ERROR [2014-11-12 16:14:49,077] Unable to read any valid metadata! | 16:15 |
| Sventek | ERROR [2014-11-12 16:14:49,078] Error processing metadata | 16:15 |
| Sventek | lemme see where it is and try to adjust in the cloud.cf | 16:15 |
| Sventek | g | 16:15 |
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| Sventek | ok/ so error was in running the cfn-init still (in AWS and not in openstack). things are creating properly now | 16:46 |
| Sventek | bummer I can't use identical tempaltes | 16:46 |
| Sventek | but it seems in AWS it's totally un-needed | 16:46 |
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| zaneb | yeah, you're never going to be able to run with same templates + same images (unless you do some detection of which IaaS you are on) because AWS and OpenStack just work differently | 16:53 |
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| ari____ | I want to pass a list as a parameter to heat config template (the resource of OS::Heat::SoftwareConfig), the config is supposed to be installing mysql cluster with the list containing the server ips | 17:26 |
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| ari____ | How can I get the substitution of ip addresses to config script from the list ? | 17:27 |
| ari____ | I don't want to have N config resources for a server of N clusters | 17:28 |
| ari____ | Any way I can achieve that using a list/iterating through the list? Is there any intrinsic functions that will allow us do that? | 17:29 |
| ari____ | In the template | 17:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Support vnic_type in OS::Neutron::Port https://review.openstack.org/129353 | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Use RPC directly for software config operations https://review.openstack.org/133604 | 18:55 |
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| stevebaker | ari____: what resource are you using to define your cluster> | 19:04 |
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| ari____ | It is essentiallytwo Nova servers | 19:07 |
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| ari____ | for now | 19:07 |
| ari____ | actually it is SoftwareDeoployment | 19:07 |
| ari____ | resource type | 19:07 |
| ari____ | and the nova server as the server | 19:08 |
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| stevebaker | ari____: so you have 2 servers and you want to get a list of both IP addresses to both servers? | 19:15 |
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| ari____ | so I already pass the list as a parameter to the config template (using software config resource), my issue is inside my config script I need to substitute the ip address for each of the server, something like "mysql GRANT ALL PRIVLIEGES ON $DBUSER$<Here I want server 0 IP> .* @$<Here I want the server 2 IP>" | 19:21 |
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| ari____ | Is there any intrinsic function to iterate through the list? | 19:21 |
| ari____ | I see Fn::Select | 19:21 |
| ari____ | but I might not know how many servers I might have | 19:22 |
| ari____ | in the list | 19:22 |
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| FL1SK | Is there a way to generate a random name with Prefix of Server- for a heat stack OS::Nova::Server | 19:27 |
| FL1SK | thoughts on havinig it autoscale with names server{0..8} | 19:28 |
| FL1SK | something like that | 19:28 |
| FL1SK | anyone | 19:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Always recurse updates into nested stacks https://review.openstack.org/134036 | 19:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Make ResourceGroup updates update nested stacks https://review.openstack.org/134037 | 19:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Brown proposed openstack/heat: Add a preview endpoint for stack updates https://review.openstack.org/122473 | 19:31 |
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| pscheie | Can anyone confirm that the example given in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Heat::ResourceGroup actually works? | 19:50 |
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| pscheie | I just spun up a stack using this template: http://paste.openstack.org/show/132502/ | 19:51 |
| pscheie | But the instances are both named memcached_%index%, that is, no value seems to be assigned to %index%. | 19:52 |
| pscheie | Or more precisely, it's treating %index% as a literal string rather than as a variable. | 19:52 |
| shardy | pscheie: what version of heat? | 19:52 |
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| shardy | The index stuff was new for Juno IIRC | 19:53 |
| pscheie | shardy, icehouse | 19:53 |
| pscheie | shardy, so the statement in the doc that says "Available since 2014.1 (Icehouse)." is incorrect, then? | 19:54 |
| shardy | pscheie: that's referring to the resource type, the index_var property was added later, IIRC | 19:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Brown proposed openstack/heat: Add a preview endpoint for stack updates https://review.openstack.org/122473 | 19:55 |
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| shardy | Really, we need stable branches for the template_guide, and/or to have per-property "Available since" hints | 19:55 |
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| pscheie | ah, ok. Hmm. Nuts. | 19:56 |
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| stevebaker | ari____: I'm back | 19:59 |
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| stevebaker | shardy: property schema items already have a support_status field, we just need to populate it and get the generated docs to use it | 20:00 |
| stevebaker | shardy: gpocentek did the resource ones | 20:01 |
| shardy | stevebaker: Ah, awesome, I thought it was only per-resource | 20:01 |
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| shardy | stevebaker: Hey, I've been speaking with lsmola again today about bug #1389178 | 20:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1389178 in heat "heat stack-update failure when scaling resource group" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1389178 | 20:03 |
| stevebaker | ari____: heat isn't currently aimed at arbitrary data->text transformation. You need to use some form of templating to generate your config files on your server. It sounds like you're using a custom image with the software-config hooks in it already, so you could use os-apply-config, which was written exactly for this task | 20:03 |
| shardy | He tested just putting update_allowed=True in the schema, and hit signal issues | 20:03 |
| stevebaker | shardy: yup. | 20:03 |
| shardy | stevebaker: Do you need any help or have you got it in hand? | 20:03 |
| stevebaker | I haven't looked into it yet, but it may need a custom handle_update | 20:04 |
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| shardy | stevebaker: Ok, it's a blocker for Tuskar adding nodes via TripleO so let me know if I can do anything to help out | 20:05 |
| stevebaker | shardy: cmyster was going to look at writing a functional test for SoftwareDeployments, but I might have to write a quick one just to replicate this | 20:06 |
| ari____ | stevebaker can you elaborate more on use some ofrm of templating? Do you mean using nested templates? | 20:07 |
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| ari____ | I am not using any hooks...just a simple config in OS::Heat::SoftwareConfig resource | 20:08 |
| shardy | stevebaker: Sounds like a plan | 20:08 |
| shardy | stevebaker: what happens when you update a stack containing a deployment (singular) resource, does it go into UPDATE_IN_PROGRESS and expect a signal even if the SoftwareConfig referenced hasn't changed? | 20:09 |
| shardy | That was where I started getting a bit confused looking at things earlier | 20:10 |
| shardy | stevebaker: If the answer is yes, then we may have to consider that ref https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134037/ which I just posted | 20:14 |
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| shardy | Time to grab some food, bbiab | 20:16 |
| FL1SK | shardy: is there a way to randomize with just like 5 numbers the OS::Nova::Server name: attribute | 20:17 |
| FL1SK | like server_name-suffix | 20:17 |
| FL1SK | was thinking of using the randomnumber gen, but I can't pair that with a name | 20:18 |
| FL1SK | or can I | 20:18 |
| FL1SK | I suppose I would have to hard code the name | 20:18 |
| FL1SK | nope | 20:23 |
| FL1SK | i guess you can't map values | 20:23 |
| FL1SK | is there a solution | 20:23 |
| FL1SK | maybe a resrouce for this purpose | 20:23 |
| stevebaker | shardy: the deployment will go to IN_PROGRESS if (config or server changes) and UPDATE in actions | 20:29 |
| stevebaker | shardy: default actions is [CREATE, UPDATE] | 20:29 |
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| stevebaker | shardy: and if config changes that results in a new config UUID, which should be enough to trigger server refresh | 20:30 |
| stevebaker | FL1SK: why can't you use the default randomish server name? | 20:33 |
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| FL1SK | stevebaker: I can... just making it better readable by people that want it pretty | 20:34 |
| FL1SK | I am thinking of using the OS::Heat::RandomString and coming up with some kind of Character Sequence | 20:35 |
| FL1SK | lol | 20:35 |
| FL1SK | that might do | 20:35 |
| stevebaker | FL1SK: If you're using ResourceGroup on Juno heat then you could use %index% too | 20:36 |
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| FL1SK | oh nice | 20:37 |
| FL1SK | thanks stevebaker | 20:37 |
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| shashankhegde | Hello | 20:46 |
| shashankhegde | I am trying to bring up a stack with two VMs connected to a network using the template: http://paste.openstack.org/show/132503/ | 20:47 |
| shashankhegde | I see that the network is created and the VMs are spawned | 20:47 |
| shashankhegde | But the network is not really plumbed correctly | 20:47 |
| shashankhegde | In neutron's ML2 plugin, the create_port does not contain the details of the host on which the VM is spawned | 20:48 |
| shashankhegde | Any idea why this info is missing? | 20:48 |
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| stevebaker | shashankhegde: if you can replicate by making nova and neutron calls then there is not much heat can do | 20:58 |
| shashankhegde | stevebaker: Sorry, I am new to heat. When a VM needs to be spawned, heat uses nova Apis to spawn it, right? | 21:00 |
| shashankhegde | Nova then decides on the VM placement and plugs the VM port into the specified network | 21:00 |
| shashankhegde | Or is heat plugging the port into the network? | 21:01 |
| stevebaker | shashankhegde: you're defining a port resource, so heat is doing a neutron create port, and specifying the port ID in the nova boot call | 21:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Brown proposed openstack/heat: Add a preview endpoint for stack updates https://review.openstack.org/122473 | 21:04 |
| shashankhegde | stevebaker: I see. But this is the only way to plug a VM port into a network, right? | 21:05 |
| stevebaker | shashankhegde: you can let nova create the port by replacing your - port: { get_resource: instance1_port } with - network: {get_resource heat_network_01} | 21:06 |
| stevebaker | shashankhegde: and deleting your port resource | 21:07 |
| shashankhegde | stevebaker: Oh, ok. Let me try that | 21:07 |
| shashankhegde | Thanks! | 21:07 |
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| shashankhegde | stevebaker: It works! Thanks for the info. | 21:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Brown proposed openstack/heat: Add a preview endpoint for stack updates https://review.openstack.org/122473 | 21:14 |
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| shardy | stevebaker: Thanks for the info re updates, makes sense now | 21:18 |
| shardy | FL1SK: If you can't use index/ResourceGroup, you can use OS::Heat::RandomString to format the name property | 21:18 |
| shardy | You just have to use str_replace to define the format string: | 21:18 |
| shardy | http://paste.fedoraproject.org/150214/41582704 | 21:18 |
| FL1SK | ah cool shardy | 21:20 |
| FL1SK | thanks | 21:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Pass status reason when trove misbehaves https://review.openstack.org/131563 | 22:08 |
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| asalkeld | morning | 22:21 |
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| wenlock | hi, new user question. I want to try out heat, must I have a local installation of openstack, or can i use a pre-existing openstack , like hpcloud? | 23:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Fish proposed openstack/heat: Use environment file in template-validate https://review.openstack.org/134080 | 23:40 |
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| stevebaker | wenlock: it would be easiest just to run something like devstack locally | 23:55 |
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