Friday, 2014-11-14

stevebakerhey, lets reimplement Amazon Lambda, then SpamapS can have his javascript ;)00:00
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SpamapSyesssssssssssss00:09
SpamapS<blink>"Billing is metered in increments of 100 milliseconds, making it cost-effective and easy to scale automatically from a few requests per day to thousands per second."00:10
SpamapSstevebaker: you're kidding.. I'm like "heck yah"00:11
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stevebakerit looks interesting00:12
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SpamapSstevebaker: in some ways, to me this is what Mistral should be.00:15
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Integration test for software-config tools  https://review.openstack.org/11371100:22
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Include group argument in calls to create_software_config  https://review.openstack.org/13439900:22
stevebakerneed reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134399/ for a regression00:22
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat-templates: Run testr init if required  https://review.openstack.org/13441100:30
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat-templates: Rename non-template example-container-config.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/13441600:57
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serg_melikyanCan someone help with Docker plugin for Heat?01:58
serg_melikyanjpeeler?01:58
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elynnmorning guys :)02:09
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Correct error message when query domain id  https://review.openstack.org/13389502:17
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Mark stack_domain_admin_password as a secret option  https://review.openstack.org/13411202:40
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Qimingstevebaker?02:52
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Remove KeypairConstraint and FlavorConstraint to nova.py  https://review.openstack.org/13414103:37
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Catch v3 keystone unauthorized error when creating stack  https://review.openstack.org/13389604:12
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/13361506:01
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mc__Is there a possibiliy to combine several alarms to a metaalarm? cant find any data. Blueprint sould be integrated in Havanna?06:08
Qiming_mc__, metaalarm?06:08
mc__alarm1 und alarm2 set in ceilometer. when both threshold are breached,  an action is finally triggered. but not before06:09
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Qiming_mc__, OS::Ceilometer::CombinationAlarm ?06:10
mc__unbelievable. I look for almost an hour in google, but these solution was never proposed. thanks!06:12
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Qiming_stevebaker, around?06:14
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Qiming_anyone can tell me why 'get_attr' is mapped to 'GetAttThenSelect' for 2013-05-23, but is later mapped to 'GetAtt' directly for 2014-10-16?06:19
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Remove KeypairConstraint and FlavorConstraint to nova.py  https://review.openstack.org/13414106:36
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inc0good morning06:48
mc__good afternoon06:50
mc__Qiming_: using CombinationAlarm, I have to delete alarm_action in the included alarms, when they triggered single shouldn't have an action?06:52
Qiming_mc__, my understanding is that you will use a 'combined' alarm actions06:54
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Remove KeypairConstraint and FlavorConstraint to nova.py  https://review.openstack.org/13414107:03
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nanjjhttp://paste.openstack.org/raw/133048/07:09
nanjja small change07:09
nanjjfor heat to select service endpoints07:10
nanjjhave a look and let me know whether it's useful07:11
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inc0shardy, you there?07:15
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat-templates: Add 'name' deployment property to exmaple template  https://review.openstack.org/13446608:19
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shardymorning all08:20
ramishrashardy: Good Morning08:20
shardyinc0: hi, I am now08:20
shardyhey ramishra08:20
nanjjshardy: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/133048/08:21
shardyramishra: nice work on the heat/containers stuff, looks interesting :)08:21
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ramishrashardy: thanks.. I am working on a 'kubelet-py' python library, so that we can use kubelet container agent08:23
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ramishrashardy: which would be good.. early days though08:24
shardyramishra: how will the container scheduling work in that scheme, vs say bringing up a kubernetes cluster?08:27
shardyramishra: effectively you plan to push the container manifest direct to the minions, right?08:27
ramishrashardy: this would be standalone kubelet, not a cluster... stevebaker, thinks we should keep it open to possibly use heat scaling mechanism rather than kubernetes repicationControllers and Services08:29
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ramishrashardy: yes.. that's the initial plan08:29
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shardyramishra: sounds good, I guess if the interface is flexible enough, we could optionally allow folks to do either approach (heat scaling or kubernetes cluster in nested stack)08:30
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shardyasalkeld: Hey, if you're around I wanted to check how you want me to proceed with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131827/08:34
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ckmvishnuinc0: Hi, missed yyour conversation yeserday.08:34
shardyI just set the request_id to None so the client would have the attribute, or heaclient crashes08:34
shardyI was expecting to work out migrating to a proper oslo base-class later, which I assumed would give us the request_id logic you added?08:35
ckmvishnuinc0: We'll be posting code today.08:35
shardyasalkeld: the problem atm is we roll our own HTTPClient but it didn't seem appropriate to fix that in this commit08:35
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inc0_ckmvishnu, hi, sorry I had meeting08:46
inc0_ckmvishnu, are you going to implement it on zane08:46
inc0_s code?08:46
inc0_or heat itself?08:46
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ckmvishnuwe have in in github. away fom openstack for now. had too many rebasing issues08:47
ckmvishnuwe'll submit a single commit08:48
ckmvishnui will be easy to view all convergence-poc related changes08:48
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inc0_ckmvishnu, any chances you could port it to zane's framework? We're working on test cases, this will help us validate all the usecases we'll cover08:49
inc0_and make review much easyier08:50
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ckmvishnuhaven't had time to look at zane's poc. I'll have a look and let you know. but now today.08:51
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ckmvishnunot today08:51
inc0_ckmvishnu, sure, we're still working on test cases, so no worries08:52
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nanjjshardy: hi09:08
shardynanjj: hi09:08
nanjjshardy: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/133048/09:08
nanjjshardy: to make heat respect the region name passed from heat client09:09
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shardynanjj: ok09:11
shardynanjj: have you posted it as a review?09:11
nanjjshardy: is it useful or not?09:11
nanjjshardy: if yes, I will do it09:12
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openstackgerritJun Jie Nan proposed openstack/heat: Make region name configurable  https://review.openstack.org/13285709:15
shardynanjj: is X-Region-Name a standard header respected by other services?09:16
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nanjjshardy: should be no09:19
nanjjshardy: heat is different09:20
nanjjshardy: it's on top of other services09:20
shardynanjj: I'm just tryin to understand why a request header, vs an argument in the request body, or attribute of a resource (like in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53313/)09:21
shardys/tryin/trying09:21
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shardynanjj: but sure, we can discuss in your review, thanks for posting it09:22
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nanjjshardy: added my comments09:32
nanjjinteresting09:33
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nanjjshardy: so if template property is in json format we can support get_file09:40
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Remove KeypairConstraint and FlavorConstraint to nova.py  https://review.openstack.org/13414109:58
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply nova server constraints for resources  https://review.openstack.org/13415110:03
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Do static template validation for nested stacks  https://review.openstack.org/13262510:39
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asalkeldhey shardy10:45
asalkeldshardy, i guess i can fix it10:46
shardyasalkeld: Hey, I don't mind doing it, was just planning to look into it after getting the oslo-sync stuff landed10:46
asalkeldi need to do a bunch of work to fix that bug10:47
shardyAlso the latest mail to the list re oslo graduation seems to indicate the apiclient HTTPClient isn't the thing to move to, as it's now deprecated10:47
asalkeldit's mainly about getting the request id out of the headers10:47
shardynot looked into the openstackclient alternative proposed yet10:47
asalkeldshardy, :-( moving targets10:47
shardyYeah, this oslo stuff is a time-consuming headache as it turns out :(10:48
asalkeldso many of these liaisons now10:48
asalkeldkinda getting in the way of doing things10:49
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shardyasalkeld: Thanks for the +2, let me know if there's anything I can do to help with the proper fix for the request_id10:52
asalkeld_ok10:52
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Increase volumes integration test rescan_timeout  https://review.openstack.org/13450211:12
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Increase volumes integration test rescan_timeout  https://review.openstack.org/13450211:14
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asalkeld_night all12:02
asalkeld_end of g20 public holiday , 6000 police in one city == too much12:03
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in contrib  https://review.openstack.org/13417012:04
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/common  https://review.openstack.org/13417312:16
pfreund_I see something strange on my OpenStack (Helion). I launch a nova server (boot from cinder) from a heat template. Then I do 'nova image-create' and just after 'nova image-delete' on the instance. When I try to delete the stack, stack is in DELETE_FAILED status, the error is "Invalid volume: Volume still has 1 dependent snapshots (HTTP 400)". Am I doing12:17
pfreund_something stupid, or is it a real problem ? There is no snapshot anymore afiter image-delete.12:17
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/db  https://review.openstack.org/13417412:24
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/engine/resources  https://review.openstack.org/13418712:28
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/tests  https://review.openstack.org/13418912:37
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zanebpfreund_: sounds like a Nova question13:20
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viktorsskraynev: hi! Please look at patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127536/ which improve synchronization between SQLA models and tables in DB, when you'll have a time. Thanks!13:42
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openstackgerritRob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Support vnic_type in OS::Neutron::Port  https://review.openstack.org/12935313:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: Move to oslo.serialization  https://review.openstack.org/13182614:39
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cmysterzaneb: there ?14:51
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cmysteranywho, I have suspended a stack that created a neutron resource. the networks are all up and active. is this BOF ?14:52
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shardycmyster: none of the neutron resources yet implement handle_suspend, so that's expected14:53
shardyIf a resource doesn't explicitly handle suspend, we do nothing14:53
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cmysterrgr14:54
cmysterpersonslly I wold have expected them to go down just like Nova servers.14:55
cmysterand would14:55
shardycmyster: Yeah, that might be nice, but nobody's got around to implementing it yet14:56
cmysterin heat or on neutron ?14:56
shardyIn heat14:56
cmystergotcha14:56
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zanebcmyster: o/14:57
cmyster\o14:58
zanebah, looks like y'all figured it out already14:58
cmysterindeed14:58
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elynn_Hi guys :)14:58
cmysterI think I'll go ahead an open a bug here. I think that suspend should be mapped in this case14:58
cmysterheya14:58
elynn_shardy, zaneb , Do you have time to approve this patche https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134112/?14:59
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: RandomString use uuid resource_id not the actual string  https://review.openstack.org/13455715:11
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: RandomString don't skip superclass validation  https://review.openstack.org/13455815:11
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matttis it possible to create a user_data script which contains information about the server itself (IP addresses etc.)15:16
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cmystermattt: depends, can you explain more ?15:19
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matttcmyster: i'd like to take IPs from different attached networks and create some configurations, the problem is i'm getting a circular dependency error creating the stack15:20
matttcmyster: presumably because i'm trying to refer to data which doesn't yet exist (since the server hasn't been booted yet)15:21
cmystermattt: exactly15:21
matttcmyster: what is the suggested work flow here?  just scrape the data from the booted instance itself (via the script we inject), or is there some more cleaner way to handle this?15:22
jasondmattt: i don't think there's a cleaner way15:23
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matttjasond: ok just wanted to check ... new to heat and i'm trying to wrap my head around it15:24
matttthanks guys15:24
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jasondmattt: maybe something like this would work http://dunsmor.com/pastebin/1415978729.txt15:25
cmystermattt: I have experimented with assigning a static IP onto a server. not that difficult if you know everything to know beforehand. so set it, restart it, cross yer fingers and hope it workd15:26
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matttjasond: if i'm reading that correctly you're referring one server to another15:28
matttwhich works ok15:28
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matttcmyster: that's kinda what i'm trying to do ... so how did you get the assigned IP into the instance?15:29
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cmysterI knew what my network is going to be because I have created that as well. I knew the ranges, so I have set it with a set of seds and then restarted the server15:31
matttcmyster: that's true, i could assign just any IP from the range presumably15:33
cmystermattt: if you know exactly how to set it, then it can work. it did not work 100% for me15:34
cmystersometimes it has15:34
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shardymattt: Some of the dynamically assigned data is available at runtime via the nova metadata service15:42
shardyhttp://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_metadata-service.html15:42
shardySo it depends exactly what data you need15:42
shardyIf it exists in the metadata you can reference that via curl or whatever in your user-data15:43
shardyI think cloud-init actually stores a snapshot of the data in the filesystem as well, but I forget exactly where15:43
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therveshardy, It's not "dynamic" IIRC15:44
matttshardy: cloud drive stores it in filesystem no ?15:44
matttshardy: but you are right!  forgot about metadata15:44
shardytherve: I thought the arbitary key/value pairs available via the native coule be updated, but I may be wrong15:45
shardyvia the native metadata service15:45
shardytherve: I think you're right about the ec2 metadata15:45
therveThere is a bug opened in heat about that :)15:45
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shardytherve: heh, I thought I read it somewhere ;)15:45
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therveLet me test it, I have VMs for once15:46
cmystershardy: where does the data come from15:46
cmyster??15:46
cmysterdat enter key15:46
cmysterbecause if if it derives from neutron then it may or may not be the IP15:47
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pfreund_zaneb: indeed it was a nova problem sorry. nova image-create creates a snapshot, but nova image-delete does not delete it. The problem was between the screen and the chair.15:48
therveshardy, You're right the json one can be updated15:51
matttis there a way to include a file as a template which is rendered through str_replace ?15:51
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cmystermattt: not sure I understand what you are trying to do here15:53
matttcmyster: i guess that makes two of us :P15:55
cmystermattt: but take a look here, it might give you an idea ;) https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-templates/example-docker-template.yaml15:56
cmystermatt this uses software config and it can use other things like scripts.15:57
cmystermattt: *15:57
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cmysterand with that in mind15:58
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shardymattt: Yes, you can do something like this:15:59
shardyhttp://paste.fedoraproject.org/150819/1598077215:59
shardyYou might also want to look at SoftwareConfig resources as they do inline substitution of inputs for you16:00
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matttshardy: perfect, that's what i am after16:00
matttthank you16:00
shardyhttps://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-templates/example-script-template.yaml16:00
shardyThat's a shell script example of the SoftwareConfig approach16:01
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matttshardy: looking, thanks !16:01
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pfreund_what is the equivalent of mapping section in hot format please ?16:02
pfreund_does it exist ?16:02
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shardypfreund_: No, it's been discussed, but parameters defined in the environment are the preferred alternative16:03
shardypfreund_: discussion here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117806/16:05
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pfreund_shardy: thx16:12
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Deprecate HARestarter resource type  https://review.openstack.org/12182416:27
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zanebtrying to remember the last time I submitted a patch...16:28
zanebI did a review today too!16:29
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shardyDoes anyone know the status of the stack-breakpoint work?16:31
shardyhttp://specs.openstack.org/openstack/heat-specs/specs/juno/stack-breakpoint.html16:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Mark stack_domain_admin_password as a secret option  https://review.openstack.org/13411217:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Remove validation of nested stack for preview  https://review.openstack.org/13434317:26
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat-templates: Enable script hook to handle Json input  https://review.openstack.org/13460717:34
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serg_melikyanWhat is the obvious reason why cfn-userdata maybe empty?18:32
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gokrokveserg_melikyan: What is used for metadata service? EC2 metadata API or ConfigDrive?18:35
serg_melikyangokrokve: EC2 metadata API, I suppose18:35
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gokrokveserg_melikyan: Heat sends user data inside multi-part message parsed by special python script sent passed via metadata server.18:36
gokrokveIf this part-handler does not work, cfn-userdata will be empty18:37
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serg_melikyanI checked cloud-init metadata content - cfn-userdata section is empty18:40
serg_melikyanhttps://gist.github.com/larsks/7864119#file-heat-user-data-txt-L9918:43
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larsksserg_melikyan: did you specify any user data in your heat template?18:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Clarify ResourceGroup properties support status  https://review.openstack.org/13424120:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in contrib  https://review.openstack.org/13417020:45
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openstackgerritJeff Peeler proposed openstack/heat: Fix incorrect ca argument for heat ceilometer client  https://review.openstack.org/13415821:03
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Handle 404 and 409 response when deleting containers  https://review.openstack.org/13465421:19
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Handle 404 and 409 response when deleting containers  https://review.openstack.org/13465422:09
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matttis it possible to have a heat template compile a few different templates together as user_data?22:13
mattti have a bunch of different servers that need different things run via cloud-init, but i don't want to maintain a big single script for each22:14
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jasond`mattt: use various combinations of "curl http://scripthost/script1 | bash"?22:17
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matttjasond`: looks like i could have gotten away with OS::Heat::SoftwareDeployments, but it's not available on the openstack install i'm using :(22:18
jasond`mattt: i haven't used it much because of the in-instance agents requirement22:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-specs: Detailed Resource Show  https://review.openstack.org/12197922:21
matttjasond`: yeah that curl way may be the best22:22
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ari_Is there anyway I can update the output/parameter in heat database using the db_api? I was asking here yesterday how to associate metadata with a stack and for PM decision we cant add parameter to all hte existing templates shipped to the customer22:27
ari_any idea if there is any other way I can store a value associated with a stack in the heat database that I can later retrieve?22:27
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zanebari_: other than the name, no22:41
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ari_If I modify the Stack class in the models.py in sqlalchemy to have an additional column would that break other places?22:44
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sjmc7ari_ - you'd have to add a migration too22:52
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sjmc7but changing db schema is not something to do lightly22:52
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ari_sjmc7: can you elaborate please? migration of the db_sync22:56
sjmc7look in db/sqlalchemy/migrate_repo/versions22:56
sjmc7migrations allow an existing installation to update its DB schema22:57
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zanebyep, and if you add a new one everything will go to hell in a handbasket when you try to upgrade22:58
sjmc7:)22:58
sjmc7you have such a way with words22:58
zaneblol22:59
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sjmc7ari_ - what are you trying to add?22:59
zanebthat's a common expression where I'm from22:59
sjmc7i'm also a subject of her majesty22:59
zanebah :)23:00
zanebhe's trying to add a metadata api23:00
sjmc7ah. would a separate table make more sense?23:00
sjmc7less handbaskets?23:00
zanebwell the problem with migrations is that they're linear. so if you use up the next number, when you upgrade you'll skip a migration23:02
randallburtthere's that word again23:02
zaneband then... handbaskets23:03
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ari_ahh so I have to add a new class for the new column in the migration with the next entry 047?23:06
ari_but then as zaneb said I will miss migration 047, right?23:07
ari_Are those migrations going to happen in kilo or you guys have it more often?23:08
ari_the one 047 lets say23:08
ari_then I will be in handbasket again when the kilo is out :)23:09
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ari_how would I go with a separate table then? Use the stack id as the key23:15
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jlkhey all. I'm trying to figure out which heat process reads which heat config files, for the sake of restarts on change. Can somebody help me dig into this?23:15
sjmc7jlk - they all read heat.conf, the api reads api-paste.ini23:18
ari_or should I just use a number really high?23:18
ari_does ithave to be sequential?23:19
sjmc7policy.json should only be the api but i don't know if that's def the case23:19
sjmc7err.. that might be inaccurate. the cw and cfn processes likely use policy.json too23:21
jlk"cw" ?23:21
sjmc7cloudwatch23:21
jlkah, not sure we're running that service23:21
jlkwe just have api, api-cfn, and engine23:21
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sjmc7policy.json should get re-read when it's changed23:23
sjmc7changes to heat.conf require service restarts across the board23:23
jlkdefine "should get re-read when it's changed"23:23
jlkis something watching the file and re-reading it constantly, or do you mean an external actor to the service should cause the service to restart ?23:23
sjmc7if you watch the api logs when you make a change, you'll see a log message indicating it's re-parsing the policy definitions23:24
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