Thursday, 2014-12-18

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zanebilion1: yes, it's fine to ask (can't guarantee an answer, obviously ;)00:15
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asalkeldga, internet woes00:22
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Check stack adopt enable before adopting  https://review.openstack.org/13757002:12
asalkeldstevebaker, ^ one of the bugs for k102:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-templates: Break out signalling heat-config-notify command  https://review.openstack.org/14123902:38
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Avoid unnecessary passing of child_params in asg  https://review.openstack.org/14000303:33
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asalkeldbbl, lunch04:01
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14057906:04
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asalkeldhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/137570/07:31
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Qiming"pkg_resources.VersionConflict: SQLAlchemy 0.9.8 is installed but SQLAlchemy<=0.8.99,<=0.9.99,>=0.8.4,>=0.9.7 is required by ['oslo.db']"07:38
Qimingthat is weird ... ^^07:39
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cmysterhad the same thing07:42
cmysterjust ignore07:42
cmysterpycharm hates it as well07:42
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Qimingcmyster, pulled oslo.db and did a 'sudo python setup.py install'07:46
cmysterI just used pip to install SQLAlchemy07:47
Qimingthe problem is no version can satisfy this requirement: <=0.8.99,<=0.9.99,>=0.8.4,>=0.9.707:48
Qiming:P07:48
asalkeldany cores around?07:57
asalkeldhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/137570/07:57
asalkeldneed some +2's please07:57
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shardyasalkeld_: Hey, sorry I missed the meeting yesterday08:07
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shardyI saw your comment re bug 1401929, I'll update that patch today08:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401929 in heat "Overzealous validation of images in empty ResourceGroups" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140192908:07
shardyIt's fine to bump to k208:07
shardyI've been pondering Clint's remark about removing the custom contraint validation from the resource schema's instead08:08
asalkeld_shardy, just had meeting with ttx and had to bump it08:08
shardyasalkeld_: np08:08
asalkeld_cool08:08
shardyasalkeld_: what are your thoughts re his comment re validation in the schema?08:08
asalkeld_shardy, pas-ha was just chatting to me about caching this stuff08:09
shardyhis argument is that we're overreaching by doing early validation before passing the data to the services08:09
shardyI can also see scalability issues, vs just validating at the parameter level08:09
asalkeld_shrug, there are pros and cons08:09
shardye.g 1000 instances == 1000 calls to glance before we've even launched anything08:09
asalkeld_pros, it prevents lots of resource creates to just figure out something was wrong08:10
asalkeld_cons: as you say08:10
asalkeld_caching might help08:10
shardyYeah, maybe caching, but then how do we know when to invalidate it?08:10
asalkeld_once per major action?08:11
shardyYea, that might work, I suppose that is the same as just one per client plugin object really08:11
shardysince we'll create a new one per request08:11
shardyIf we go that way, we'll still need my patch, so I'll go ahead with the tests08:12
asalkeld_ok08:12
shardyI was considering abandoning it and just removing all the custom constraints from the resources, perhaps caching is a better way08:12
asalkeld_yeah08:13
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shardyIt does mean we hard-code an assumption about the image store nova uses, but perhaps that's OK08:13
shardyI was kinda coming around to the view that template authors should be responsible for validating their inputs, but whatever works :)08:14
shardySpamapS: I guess you're asleep, but FYI ^^08:15
asalkeld_shardy, there are template users08:15
asalkeld_not just authors08:15
asalkeld_so grab template and use08:15
asalkeld_so validation i think is a "thing"08:15
shardyasalkeld_: Yeah, but my argument is that all templates, including nested ones, should define the contraint in their parameter definitions08:16
shardyYeah, I can definitely see both sides on this one..08:16
asalkeld_shardy, that is quite a pita08:16
shardyI suppose that is true..08:16
shardyalrighty, I'll revive my patch after I've made some coffee, thanks! :)08:17
asalkeld_later08:17
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cmysterQiming: 0.9.8 does satisfies it, I think I can draw some Venn diagrams to prove it ;)08:29
Qimingcmyster, you mean 0.9.8 <= 0.8.99 ?08:30
cmysterja that might be it, ',' is AND or OR ?08:30
Qiminglooks more like an AND08:31
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cmysterI think it sais between 0.8.4 and 0.8.99 or between 0.9.7 and 0.9.99 and 0.9.8 falls into the second part08:33
cmysterin any case, when you use pip install -r requirements.txt it installs 0.9.8 on a clean system08:33
cmystersays... bah need more coffee08:34
Qimingokay, a quick reinstall of oslo.db solved it08:34
Qimingnow oslo.db wants this, not difficult to understand/satisfy: SQLAlchemy>=0.9.7,<=0.9.9908:35
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cmyster0.8.x was good for up until recently, I assume that it would drop in favour of 0.9.x only in such requirments.txt files all over the place08:37
cmysterI rmember having issues with having 0.9.x in vanila Juno08:38
therveQiming, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/052993.html08:40
Qimingtherve, checking08:40
therveIt broke the gate for a while08:40
Qimingah, thanks!08:41
openstackgerritVisnusaran Murugan proposed openstack/heat: Read-only RowProxy wrongly used to set db attributes  https://review.openstack.org/14179408:42
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inc0good morning08:58
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skraynevgood day all09:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Use configured auth for standalone middleware  https://review.openstack.org/14190810:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Change hardcoded attr names in _resolve_attribute  https://review.openstack.org/14249110:12
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shardylol, SQLAlchemy !=0.9.0,!=0.9.1,!=0.9.2,!=0.9.3,!=0.9.4,!=0.9.5,!=0.9.610:34
shardyfail!10:34
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therveno kidding...10:39
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Adds Service table for heat-manage service list  https://review.openstack.org/14272310:45
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Engine updates status periodically  https://review.openstack.org/14272410:45
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: REST API and heat-manage service list  https://review.openstack.org/14272510:45
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Adds CLI heat service-list  https://review.openstack.org/14272710:50
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openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - Resource  https://review.openstack.org/14178811:44
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - UserCreds  https://review.openstack.org/14180111:44
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - RawTemplate  https://review.openstack.org/14104611:44
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: First placeholder for versioned objects  https://review.openstack.org/14039311:44
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - ResourceData  https://review.openstack.org/14105211:44
inc0tox11:45
inc0meh, wrong window;)11:45
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gfidenteguys, just to make sure, when updating a resourcegroup,11:56
gfidentethe count number should be the absolute number of resources of that type, or the increase amount?11:57
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unmeshggfidente: the count should be the absolute number of resources12:22
gfidenteunmeshg, thanks! :)12:23
unmeshgwc12:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Check stack adopt enable before adopting  https://review.openstack.org/13757012:32
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inc0hmm...am I missing something? Is there any call of db_api.event_create anywhere?12:38
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inc0btw I've seen several unused (besides tests) api methods12:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Integration test for remote stack  https://review.openstack.org/14136412:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14057912:53
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openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - Event  https://review.openstack.org/14276913:10
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - WatchRule  https://review.openstack.org/14277013:10
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inc0guys, I need gerrit help >< https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141788/ <- why is merge failed? I try rebasing, merging, doing whatever locally and it works13:41
sdakeshardy does stevebaker have a review up for what you mentioned?13:41
shardyinc0: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/event.py#L8713:41
shardythat's where event_create is used13:41
shardysdake: Yup, sec13:42
shardysdake: there's a summit etherpad about it too13:42
shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/130117/13:42
shardysdake: ^^13:42
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shardyhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-heat-containers13:43
shardysdake: The pdf linked there has a nice summary of the two proposed approaches13:43
shardysome code has started landing, but AFAIK it's not all working yet13:43
shardyinc0: presumably your local master needs a pull to align with what the gate is using13:45
shardyinc0: git checkout master; git pull; git checkout <yourbranch>; git rebase -i origin13:46
shardyinc0: If you're working from local master, you can do git pull --rebase, but working from topic branches is a much better idea13:46
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - Event  https://review.openstack.org/14276913:47
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - WatchRule  https://review.openstack.org/14277013:47
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - Resource  https://review.openstack.org/14178813:47
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - UserCreds  https://review.openstack.org/14180113:47
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - RawTemplate  https://review.openstack.org/14104613:47
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: First placeholder for versioned objects  https://review.openstack.org/14039313:47
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - ResourceData  https://review.openstack.org/14105213:47
sdakegit pull --rebase will do the job13:48
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inc0ok...let see what will gerrit do now13:48
inc0and I am working on topic branches13:48
inc0thank you shardy, sdake13:49
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openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed openstack/heat: Fix doc generation for contrib resources  https://review.openstack.org/14279214:14
openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed openstack/heat: Re-enable doc generation for contrib plugins  https://review.openstack.org/14279314:14
openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed openstack/heat: Remove warnings when generating docs  https://review.openstack.org/14279414:14
openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed openstack/heat: Fix doc generation for Rackspace::Cloud::Network  https://review.openstack.org/14279514:14
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skraynevguys sorry for the some kind of commercial, could you look this patch related with Heat, IMO we really need in some UI improvements : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134591/14:24
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skraynevsome explanation: it's patch for one new panel in Horizon for Heat14:27
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Improve Property error msg for properties validate  https://review.openstack.org/12715015:01
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Change Nova::FloatingIPAssociation resource's id  https://review.openstack.org/13762815:02
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add attributes to Nova::FloatingIPAssociation res  https://review.openstack.org/13837015:02
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Change Neutron::FloatingIPAssociation res's name  https://review.openstack.org/13779915:02
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add attributes to Neutron::FloatingIPAssociation  https://review.openstack.org/13837615:03
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add attributes to RouterInterface resource  https://review.openstack.org/13833515:03
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add property 'router' to RouterInterface  https://review.openstack.org/13958715:04
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add property 'port' to RouterInterface  https://review.openstack.org/14105315:13
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shardyHmm, anyone seeing python-neutronclient 2.3.11.dev1.g6913e3f is installed but python-neutronclient<3,>=2.3.6 is required by []15:54
shardyand similar errors for various clients?15:54
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shardydevstack, pulled latest everything15:55
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openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed openstack/heat: Fix NetworkInUse when deleting RS Cloud::Network  https://review.openstack.org/14190216:30
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jdandreaIs there any way to instigate replacement of a resource (and its dependencies) *without* updating its name/properties? (Imagining a resource-replace API. Pros/cons?)16:34
shardyjdandrea: No, the big disadvantage is you'll end up replacing the resource, and all of the things which depend on it16:37
shardyThat is the major problem with HARestarter, which basically does what you describe16:37
shardyit's quite easy to destroy way more than you expected16:37
jdandreashardy: Yeah, I was thinking about *exactly* that ...16:37
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jdandreaI mean, today, I can change the *name* of a resource, or perhaps it's SSH key, and instigate a replacement as well. Doe sthat also replace the things which depend upon it?16:38
jdandreas/it's/its16:38
shardyjdandrea: Yes, which is why we support in-place (non replacement) updates wherever possible16:39
jdandreashardy: Right, such as a Nova server's admin_pass.16:39
jdandreaIf I *accepted* that replacement includes dependencies, though, I could do that today by changing the name of a resource and issuing an update.16:40
shardyjdandrea: Yes, or using HARestarter (not really advocating the latter)16:41
jdandrea*nods* I'm avoiding it. :)16:41
jdandreaBasically, I've been asked to think about how I might replace a resource on-demand (in this case a server), for whatever reason. It's almost always a server with a volume/attachment, and therein lies the problem.16:44
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jdandrea"No! We want that volume!" Oops.16:44
sdakeshardy can you apply to the pkgdb to be added to heat-cfntools16:44
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jpeeleryikes this bug has been forgotten about - https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/140131716:47
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401317 in heat "resource group property validation failing in nested stack" [High,New]16:47
jpeelerzaneb: i assume we want that in the release if possible ^16:49
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ryansbhey, does anyone else here run devstack in a vm?17:16
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Remove deprecated prop from Neutron::FloatingIP  https://review.openstack.org/14284817:17
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larsksryansb: occasionally...17:22
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add property 'router' to Neutron::VPNService  https://review.openstack.org/13958817:22
ryansbDo you have a copy of your local.conf? I'm having trouble w/ nova17:24
larsksMy devstack env isn't up right now.  Give me a couple minutes to fix that...17:27
ryansbkk, much appreciated.17:27
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larsksryansb: This is my local.conf: http://chunk.io/f/b05067b3eeed489796b82a12ba2a099917:51
larsksI can successfully boot a nova instance.  I had to fiddle permissions on my home directory to make sure nova could access the disk images.17:51
ryansbkk, thanks. That's almost what I have, it must be something I added recently then.17:54
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larsksshardy: (et al) If someone is unable to use the 'openstack' unified client, is there another tool for creating the heat keystone domain?18:34
larsksI pointed someone at http://hardysteven.blogspot.com/2014/04/heat-auth-model-updates-part-2-stack.html, but python-openstackclient in rhel-osp 5 appears to be broken.18:35
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jpeelerlarsks: isn't that what heat-keystone-setup-domain is for?18:42
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larsksI found 'create_heat_domain' in the heat sources.  Where does heat-keystone-setup-domain come from?18:44
larsksOh look, it's in a package.18:45
larsks Nice.18:45
jpeeleryes18:45
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funzolarsks: jpeeler: that person is me18:46
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funzoalso, I ran heat-keystone-setup-domain and it just outputs the config values I already have in my heat.conf18:47
larsksfunzo: Also, see my last message to you....18:47
funzoalso, I have no domain table in the heat mysql db.18:47
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larsksfunzo: that would be the topic of my last message :)18:47
funzolarsks: oh18:47
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funzohaha18:47
funzojpeeler: I do have a heat domain already set up in there18:48
funzo 988df7683aba46ec87baff32e2a9f9a6 | heat    |       1 | {"description": "Contains users and projects created by heat"}18:48
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funzothough heat still can't create resources due to 40118:48
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jpeelerfunzo: do you have the heat_stack_user role?18:51
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* jpeeler does not have much experience in this area18:51
funzo| ee2264557900443aac4c7db71b81cb01 | heat_stack_owner |18:52
funzo| 91d3f7abaa0c46c9b3f7660fe8d93300 | heat_stack_user18:52
funzoyep18:52
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funzojpeeler: http://fpaste.org/161072/14189288/18:53
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jpeelerfunzo: what does your heat.conf look like?18:56
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funzojpeeler: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/161077/18929303/19:01
funzojpeeler: thanks for your time19:03
jpeelerdon't thank me yet...19:04
jpeelerwhat is keystone tenant-list show?19:04
funzojpeeler: http://fpaste.org/161079/18929524/19:05
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therve20:18
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maishskgood evening20:37
maishskI see that OS::Heat::HARestarter is supposed to be deprecated20:37
maishskwhat should be used instead?20:38
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larsksmaishsk: I don't know for sure, but this thread may be of interest: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/046217.html20:59
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maishsklarsks: Thanks - I have read that - but I was wondering what the plan is - and how long until a new method is implemented?21:00
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jdandreaTrying the software config example in heat-templates. The recommended fedora image doesn't have a scripts-user module. http://paste.openstack.org/show/152901/ Is there another fedora image out there with the latest modules?21:17
jdandrea(Will build my own, but if one is already readily available I'll use it.)21:17
stevebakerjdandrea: there is no recommended image, you need to build your own21:20
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jdandreastevebaker: Ok. Was looking at https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-templates/wordpress/WordPress_software-config_1-instance.yaml#L3221:20
jdandreaAh, and they have to have elements built in, got it.21:20
jdandreaOk. Will build ...21:21
stevebakerjdandrea: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot/software-config/elements http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/hot-guide.html21:22
jdandreastevebaker: Ha! Turns out I did this already. Silly me.21:23
* jdandrea glance image-list is your friend21:23
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jdandreastevebaker: I tried creating a brand new fedora image using those instructions. Worked fine. However, I still get that "failed to run module scripts-user" up on the server in cloud-init-output.log (?).21:56
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stevebakerjdandrea: looks like a benign error which can be ignored21:59
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jdandreastevebaker: Ok, good. Meanwhile, SoftwareDeployment never gets the signal. (Revisiting this from a few months ago.) Following your diagnostics tips from a prior chat ...22:03
* jdandrea is using keystone v3. IP/service is reachable from the VM ...22:03
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stevebakerjdandrea: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/42657/how-to-debug-scripts-at-heats-softwareconfig-resource/22:06
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jdandreastevebaker: Yup. That's what I'm using.22:07
jdandreaI think I'm getting in too late though.22:08
jdandreahttp://paste.openstack.org/show/152907/22:08
stevebakerjdandrea: you're not specifying --force22:09
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jdandreastevebaker: Ah.22:12
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jdandreahttp://paste.openstack.org/show/152908/22:13
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stevebakerjdandrea: [2014-12-18 22:12:54,111] (heat-config) [WARNING] Skipping config 12372377-b3a9-4493-9a3b-6baea86be4e8, already deployed22:14
stevebaker[2014-12-18 22:12:54,111] (heat-config) [WARNING] To force-deploy, rm /var/run/heat-config/deployed/12372377-b3a9-4493-9a3b-6baea86be4e8.json22:14
jdandreaYep. I missed it again, didn't I. :)22:14
jdandreaI have to get in there and stop it sooner.22:14
stevebakerjdandrea: nope, rm the file and run os-collect-config again22:14
jdandreaOh!22:15
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jdandreaStaring me in the face. >.<22:15
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jdandreastevebaker: Ta-dah. http://paste.openstack.org/show/152909/22:20
jdandreaLooks like something's going on with heat-config-notify (?).22:20
stevebakerjdandrea: ug, you found a bug in heat-config-notify22:21
jdandreaI have that habit. :(22:21
stevebakerweird it works for me22:21
jdandreaWould other files be of help (from this VM)?22:21
stevebakerjdandrea: I'll put together a fix, but do see if you get further you could hack heat-config-notify init_logging to return log22:23
jdandreastevebaker: I'm on it.22:24
stevebakerjdandrea: ah, my image is old22:25
jdandreawhew. ok22:25
jdandreaI grabbed the latest from git when I built this image.22:25
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jdandreastevebaker: Hmm. When I trace (loading the json file vs using stdin), sigurl is not null.22:36
jdandreaBut I do still get the error.22:36
stevebakerjdandrea: the problem is that log is null because init_logging doesn't return log22:37
jdandreaOh!22:37
jdandreaRight.22:37
jdandrea... and it works.22:38
jdandreaSo that's all it was.22:39
jdandreaNow it works.22:40
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat-templates: WIP heat-config-kubelet  https://review.openstack.org/14088722:44
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat-templates: Fix broken heat-config-notify  https://review.openstack.org/14292122:44
jdandreaEasiest code review ever. :)22:45
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asalkeldmy internet is going to be dodgy today22:52
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stevebakerasalkeld: enough bandwidth for a brown-paper-bag review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142921/122:57
asalkeldi'll look22:57
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asalkeldstevebaker, i bashed it in22:59
stevebakerta23:00
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asalkeldbreaky time brb23:05
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jdandreastevebaker: Well, we're closer. I created a new image and tried again. It seems as though I still have to instigate/force the deployment. Once I do that, it works in very short order, but only for the first of two SoftwareDeployments.23:06
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stevebakerhmm23:07
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jdandreahttp://paste.openstack.org/show/152911/ - the first deployment went off very quickly once I kicked it off.23:08
jdandreaWaiting to see what happens with the second one.23:08
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jdandrea(also, I restarted os-collect-config)23:11
jdandreaBut signaling DOES work for the first deployment! :)23:12
jdandreastevebaker: It went to completion. Going to try again and this time I'll leave it be.23:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-templates: Fix broken heat-config-notify  https://review.openstack.org/14292123:17
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jdandreastevebaker: The deployment went to completion without me doing a thing. WP claims it can't establish a DB connection, but I'll look at that later.23:22
jdandreaHeading home. g'night!23:23
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jdandreastevebaker: Actually, I tried using the password generated by heat. I get access denied for user admin on localhost. Will revisit later ...23:26
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