Friday, 2015-01-02

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sdakehey asalkeld00:46
sdakeI got neutron working ;-)00:46
asalkeldhi sdake - nice00:55
asalkeldso write up a blog/howto00:55
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sdakeasalkeld https://review.openstack.org/14466301:37
sdakeasalkeld I'm pretty sure that was the problem I was stuck with01:42
sdakeI'm probably going to make a recommendation to use the MASQUERADE IP rule after that change merges01:42
sdakeI just want to do them one at a time make sure the firewalld thing gets in01:42
sdakebecause that seriously blocked me for a long long long time01:42
sdakeasalkeld blog seems like late to the party01:46
sdakeI think everyone *else* has managed to  beat neutron + devstack into submission if they wanted the integration01:46
sdakealthough I have a super deep understanding of neutron now which could be helpful for other folks01:47
asalkeldok, well that works too01:54
asalkeldwhat is ufw?01:55
sdakeuncomplicated firewall01:55
sdakeI think its ubuntu's firewalld clone01:55
sdakeI'm unclear if its installed by default01:55
sdakesince I haven' trun ubuntu in a long long time01:55
asalkeldi am01:55
sdakeyup01:56
asalkeldhar, shows how much i use that01:56
sdakeI like fedora because I know how to fix anything when something goes wrong01:56
sdakeand it has a fast upgrade lifecycle - every 6 mo01:56
sdakeI feel lost inside ubuntu re package managers etc01:56
asalkeldit's nice for basic stuff, just had lots of interuption with it (devstack related)01:57
sdakeyup devstack dev on fedora is not ideal01:57
sdakebecause everyone develops on ubuntu, so the devstack support is not usually good01:57
sdakebut that has changed now i think01:57
sdakelots of red hatters use fedora now so devstack usually stays in good health01:58
asalkeldexcept for neutron it seems01:58
sdakeya I think most people donm't roll with neutron but use nova networking01:59
sdakemaybe not most, but probably many :)01:59
sdakeI was using nova networking until dec 31, 201401:59
sdakeso... :)01:59
sdakenow I'm in for neutron01:59
sdakeasalkeld do you stream music in some way?02:04
sdakehave a dedicvated box, or use software?02:04
asalkeldnope02:05
asalkeldwhy would i need to do that?02:05
sdakeI've got a pretty sweet hifi stereo setup02:05
sdakebut I want lazy-man less good sounding setup02:05
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sdakeso I can switch between either stream or manual LP changing02:05
sdakerobyn bought us KEF LS50 monitors for chirstmas02:06
sdakeboy do they rock02:06
asalkeldi have one of these: http://www.marshallheadphones.com/speakers/stanmore/stanmore-black/02:06
asalkeldand connect to tv or play via bluetooth from my phone02:07
sdakeyup you showed me last year when I got my project record02:07
sdakeso you stream off your phone then02:07
asalkeldi connect to it as a bluetooth speaker (yes)02:07
sdakeinteresting02:08
asalkeldreally simple and the sound is good enough for me02:08
sdakeI wonder if I could use my computer to stream bluetooth02:08
asalkeldsure, i do that too sometimes02:08
sdakerather then phone02:08
sdakethere is some lossless stremaing service I'd like to use02:09
sdakeits like 20$ a mo02:09
sdakebut it doesn't use mp302:09
sdakeits basically cd quality streaming02:09
sdakeI find mp3s to be a bit harsh, especially atthe high end of the response curve02:10
asalkeldshrug, i just buy music - it's super cheap02:10
sdakeI don't like ripping and managing all the music02:10
sdakealthough I have been building up a lp collection02:10
sdakerecord player sounds so much better then digital music, but digital musc is way more convenient02:11
asalkeldhttp://www.mp3va.com/ (mp3 -  which you don't like)02:11
sdakeso I want both models02:11
sdakeI don't mind mp3, just isn't ideal02:11
asalkeld$1/album02:11
sdakewow thats cheap02:11
sdakeI typically buy lps on amazon, and then thye give you free access to the mp3s02:11
sdakewhich is cool02:12
sdakethat marshall thing looks pretty sweet, 400 USD for bluetooth streaming02:13
sdakesuper cheap02:13
sdakemarshall is a nice brand as well02:13
asalkeldand it's handy too, very moblie02:14
asalkeldsince the amp and speakers are together02:14
sdakeright02:14
asalkeldeasy to pickup and take with somewhere02:14
sdakemy cousin has a similar thing made by beatsx02:15
sdakebut beats products sound like crap02:15
sdakenice thing about the marshall is it looks like it has other inputs as well for lps/etc02:15
sdakethe beats bluetooth speaker is good enough for its purpose - really portable music02:16
asalkeldok, time to get some food and take a break02:16
asalkeldbrb02:16
sdakeenjoy02:16
sdakei'm actually off for the night02:17
sdakesee you later02:17
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asalkeldall quiet here08:00
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asalkeldlater all08:25
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shardymorning all09:12
f13omorning09:18
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pas-hamorning all :)09:35
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Add PurgeOnDelete property to OS::Swift::Container  https://review.openstack.org/14447610:57
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Cleanup heat/openstack/common  https://review.openstack.org/14473811:58
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Use oslo.config generator  https://review.openstack.org/14241812:14
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pas-hatherve`, ping12:45
therve`Yo12:46
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pas-haquestion on openstack-common.conf12:46
pas-hawe have fileutils that is required by openstack/common/policy.py but we do not track it12:46
pas-hashould we? or there is some magic happening during sync?12:47
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pas-hae.g. versionutils is used only in openstack/common/middlware/request_id, and we do track both..12:48
therveThere ought to be, I think? The incubator manages dependencies I believe12:48
thervefileutils is up to date at least12:49
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pas-haok, I'll leave it as is then for now12:49
therveShould be easy to check12:50
thervepas-ha, https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/update.py#L323 yeah12:52
pas-haok, cool12:53
therveThat's good, because that means we only put stuff heat depends on in the conf file12:53
therveSo presumably we should remove versionutils12:53
pas-hayep, although we'll remove middleware in the end of kilo or start of L I presume as it is deprecated12:54
pas-habtw, I have a branch that updates us to fresher hacking (latest 0.9.5, we are capped by <0.9 now). 10 commits :( would you think its worth reviewers time?13:00
therveDepends if the new rules are useful or not :)13:06
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pas-hawell, at least (from what have failed) the really useful one is that checks for shadowing of imports and the like by loop variables13:10
therveIt could be useful13:14
pas-haok, I'll push it to review while we are in a quiet time / holidays, might get merged without too many rebases :)13:15
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shardytherve: We can't remove versionutils until after kilo as it's used here:14:22
shardyhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/openstack/common/middleware/request_id.py14:22
therveshardy, I mean remove it from openstack-comming.conf14:23
thervecommon14:23
shardytherve: Oh, I see, yeah we could do that :)14:23
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Update oslo-hacking and disable failing checks  https://review.openstack.org/14474914:33
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable E122, E126 and E128 style checks  https://review.openstack.org/14475014:33
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H101 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14475114:33
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable E265 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14475214:33
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable F402 and F812 style checks  https://review.openstack.org/14475314:33
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable E251 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14475414:33
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H233 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14475514:33
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H305 and H307 style checks  https://review.openstack.org/14475614:33
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H202 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14475714:33
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H904 style checking rule  https://review.openstack.org/14475814:33
pas-ha^ let's write some cleaner and safer code in new year :)14:34
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H402 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14476114:49
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Update oslo-hacking and disable failing checks  https://review.openstack.org/14474915:41
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H101 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14475115:41
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable E122, E126 and E128 style checks  https://review.openstack.org/14475015:41
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H402 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14476115:41
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H305 and H307 style checks  https://review.openstack.org/14475615:41
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H202 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14475715:41
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H904 style checking rule  https://review.openstack.org/14475815:41
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable E265 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14475215:41
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable F402 and F812 style checks  https://review.openstack.org/14475315:41
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable E251 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14475415:41
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H233 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14475515:41
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Don't eagerly validate StackResource objects  https://review.openstack.org/14476615:44
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Gracefully fail to delete nonempty S3 Bucket  https://review.openstack.org/14477917:23
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pas-hahave a nice weekend all :)17:25
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jdandreaAnyone getting grief installing heat (master branch) under devstack? http://paste.openstack.org/show/155425/20:30
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Make StackResource less strict on initial validation  https://review.openstack.org/14476621:25
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Add a strict_validate flag to Stacks  https://review.openstack.org/14480421:25
sdakejdandrea new setup tools is released - and it busts things21:28
sdakeI'm not sure what  the solution is21:28
sdakethe gate is also busted atm :(21:28
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sdakeyou might try installing an older version of setuptools21:28
jdandreasdake: Aye. Keeping taks on #openstack-infra. I could go to an older setuptools, mhm.21:32
jdandreas/taks/tabs21:32
jdandreatx!21:33
sdakesure21:33
sdakeenjoy :)21:33
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openstackgerritMiguel Grinberg proposed openstack/heat-specs: "for_each" function for HOT templates  https://review.openstack.org/14084922:55
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sdakeanyone running ubuntu, is ufw enabled by default?23:14
sdakeand how are services disabled in ubuntu?  service ufw disable ?23:15
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