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| naohirot | asalkeld: I'm working in Ironic team, so I don't have acquaintance in heat, can you refer me to another core reviewer? | 00:03 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker shardy zaneb pas-ha skranev randallburt therve tspazier | 00:05 |
| asalkeld | naohirot: ^ | 00:05 |
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| naohirot | asalkeld: is jpeerler working in the same time zone? | 00:06 |
| asalkeld | no | 00:06 |
| asalkeld | normally me and stevebaker at this time | 00:07 |
| naohirot | asalkeld: who are working in the same time zone among the core reviewer you just showed? | 00:08 |
| asalkeld | naohirot: same as me? | 00:08 |
| naohirot | asalkeld: ok thanks. | 00:08 |
| naohirot | asalkeld: Yes, I'm in Japan | 00:09 |
| asalkeld | naohirot: i am in brisbane, au and stevebaker is in New Zealand | 00:09 |
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| naohirot | asalkeld: That's good for me in working in heat team :) | 00:10 |
| asalkeld | naohirot: are you going to be doing more work in Heat/ | 00:11 |
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| naohirot | asalkeld: Yeah, I'm currently tightly involved in Ironic, but other colleagues in my company are working in heat. | 00:13 |
| asalkeld | nice | 00:13 |
| naohirot | asalkeld: most of core member in Ironic are in EU, US, so time window is very limited to touch them. | 00:15 |
| asalkeld | naohirot: yes, that is a pain | 00:15 |
| asalkeld | i try stay online mornings and evenings to chat | 00:15 |
| naohirot | asalkeld: that's nice. | 00:16 |
| naohirot | asalkeld: has the wild fire settled down? | 00:17 |
| asalkeld | i believe so | 00:17 |
| naohirot | asalkeld: that's good, I watched tv new at the beginning this year, I think. | 00:18 |
| naohirot | stevebaker: hi | 00:20 |
| naohirot | stevebaker: If you have time, would you please review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143059/ | 00:22 |
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| naohirot | stevebaker: this is just adding 2 lines of code, small change. | 00:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Removed http proxy environment variable so that httpretty can work https://review.openstack.org/143059 | 00:33 |
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| naohirot | stevebaker: thanks ^^^ | 00:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: CLI: Add --all option to output-show command https://review.openstack.org/147299 | 00:40 |
| jdandrea | I brought up a VM with heat (Juno), standalone mode. It connects fine. I'm noticing something odd though. Every other time I use 'heat stack-list' I get "ERROR: The template version is invalid: Template version was not provided" | 00:49 |
| jdandrea | Otherwise I get my list of stacks (currently empty). | 00:49 |
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| asalkeld | jdandrea: i think we now require a version header | 01:00 |
| asalkeld | maybe you don't have one in your template? | 01:00 |
| jdandrea | I'm doing a stack-list. No stacks exist. | 01:01 |
| asalkeld | we that sucks | 01:01 |
| jdandrea | Yep. | 01:01 |
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| asalkeld | jdandrea: can you raise a bug? | 01:02 |
| jdandrea | I can. I'm not convinced it's a bug yet though. | 01:02 |
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| jdandrea | Because I have other VMs for which I'm running Heat/Juno standalone and I don't see this. | 01:03 |
| jdandrea | Wait, I can post something to pastebin ... | 01:03 |
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| jdandrea | asalkeld: http://paste.openstack.org/show/158050/ | 01:05 |
| jdandrea | What do you think? File it regardless? | 01:06 |
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| asalkeld | yeah raise it | 01:09 |
| asalkeld | it should default to something | 01:09 |
| jdandrea | asalkeld: ok | 01:09 |
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| jdandrea | asalkeld: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1411056 | 01:13 |
| asalkeld | thanks jdandrea | 01:13 |
| jdandrea | asalkeld: You're welcome! | 01:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed openstack/heat: Use keystoneclient auth plugins https://review.openstack.org/146368 | 01:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/146690 | 02:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: LB: separate out the FnGetRefId and FnGetAttr tests https://review.openstack.org/146033 | 02:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Implement 'InstanceId' for LaunchConfiguration https://review.openstack.org/133401 | 03:00 |
| jamielennox | is there a reason that i'd be getting the gate errors in http://logs.openstack.org/68/146368/5/check/check-heat-dsvm-functional-mysql/2381831/logs/devstack-gate-post-test-hook.txt.gz | 03:08 |
| jamielennox | I can't see why only this test fails on only this gate job is related to my patch - is it somethingk nown? | 03:09 |
| angussalkeld | looking jamielennox | 03:12 |
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| angussalkeld | jamielennox: is this stuff compatible with your context changes: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/remote_stack.py#L102-L124 | 03:19 |
| angussalkeld | ok, taking a late lunch bbl | 03:20 |
| angussalkeld | nandos time | 03:20 |
| jamielennox | angussalkeld: i'll start there, but it should be | 03:20 |
| jamielennox | nice - other than it's too hot to be outside | 03:20 |
| angussalkeld | phew, yeah - but my aircon is broken | 03:21 |
| angussalkeld | so - shrug, just keep sweating | 03:21 |
| jamielennox | ugh - how have you survived the last few weeks | 03:21 |
| angussalkeld | tough, estate agents have a long holiday | 03:22 |
| angussalkeld | (broke before xmas) | 03:22 |
| angussalkeld | later | 03:22 |
| jamielennox | i feel around here that falls under the 'emergency repairs' thing where you can just do it and charge them later | 03:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed openstack/heat: Use keystoneclient auth plugins https://review.openstack.org/146368 | 03:41 |
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| cmyster | morning | 03:58 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Implement 'InstanceId' for autoscaling group https://review.openstack.org/133905 | 04:00 |
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| cmyster | angussalkeld: There ? | 04:36 |
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| cmyster | hmmm | 05:11 |
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| cmyster | I was creating a stack and it failed creation due to a duplaicate nova keypair. I deleted the keypair and tried a stack-update, shouldn't that 'fix' the stack ? | 05:12 |
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| angussalkeld | cmyster: here | 05:35 |
| angussalkeld | just picking kids up | 05:35 |
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| angussalkeld | redhatters: http://osdir.com/ml/general/2015-01/msg15638.html | 05:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/146764 | 06:01 |
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| cmyster | angussalkeld: yup | 06:02 |
| cmyster | and also, if you are still working on updates: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1411103 | 06:03 |
| angussalkeld | looking | 06:03 |
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| cmyster | not even sure floating_network was ready in icehouse... therve added it to that template back in May 2014 | 06:12 |
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| cmyster | thanks angussalkeld | 06:17 |
| cmyster | again its my WIP test that is picking up these things... | 06:17 |
| angussalkeld | yeah, that's good | 06:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed openstack/heat: Use auth plugins for domain client and admin client https://review.openstack.org/147391 | 06:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed openstack/heat: Convert cinder to use auth plugin https://review.openstack.org/147392 | 06:19 |
| * cmyster wonders... | 06:20 | |
| cmyster | shardy might be interested in that one as well as well, IIRC he had a close run with this issue in triplo | 06:21 |
| cmyster | or something close to it | 06:21 |
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| jamielennox | JENKINS PASS! | 07:02 |
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| shardy | morning all | 08:35 |
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| tspatzier | morning shardy | 08:37 |
| tspatzier | shardy: I inherited bug #1404360 from you when I did this little docs sync based asalkeld's manuals update | 08:38 |
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| tspatzier | do you know if there is anything else to be done for this bug, or can we close it. From your description it looks like it should be addressed | 08:39 |
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| inc0 | good morning | 08:40 |
| shardy | tspatzier: Yup, I think it's complete, sorry I forgot to reply to your comment yesterday | 08:40 |
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| tspatzier | shardy: np. I can update the bug. | 08:41 |
| shardy | tspatzier: thanks! | 08:41 |
| shardy | cmyster, asalkeld: replied re the floating_network thing, it's a docs/schema bug, will post a patch updating SupportStatus shortly | 08:46 |
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| cmyster | morning shardy, thanks | 08:47 |
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| shardy | Hrm, property support status isn't being built in our docs anymore.. | 09:13 |
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| shardy | bug #1376868 indicates it never has, so my memory must be wrong | 09:20 |
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| inc0 | is this normal behaviour? I get unexpected method call from mox. I add MultipleTimes() and it keeps throwing same error, I add new line with stubbing Stack.load, and I get brand new error, which actually makes sense | 09:29 |
| inc0 | is it me or it seems MultipleTimes doesn't work? | 09:29 |
| shardy | inc0: can you paste the code somewhere? | 09:30 |
| shardy | MultipleTimes definitely does work, but mox is really confusing when you do things wrong | 09:30 |
| inc0 | give me a second | 09:30 |
| shardy | inc0: FWIW, when I get in this situation I tend to comment all the stubs and reintroduce them one by one until I spot my mistake | 09:31 |
| shardy | inc0: also, note that stubbing va mox is preferred for new code | 09:31 |
| shardy | mock I mean | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: First objects - stack and raw template https://review.openstack.org/146841 | 09:32 |
| inc0 | this patchset + nosetests heat/tests/test_engine_service.py:SnapshotServiceTest.test_restore_snapshot | 09:32 |
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| inc0 | these are old tests | 09:33 |
| cmyster | inc0: no ł in gerrit ? | 09:35 |
| cmyster | hi BTW | 09:35 |
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| inc0 | hello cmyster , nope, Polish letters are pain | 09:36 |
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| inc0 | I avoid them by default now | 09:36 |
| cmyster | at least they are under latin... | 09:36 |
| inc0 | hehehe true | 09:37 |
| cmyster | and from left to rught :) | 09:37 |
| inc0 | well, top to bottom still works | 09:37 |
| cmyster | right*... more coffeee | 09:37 |
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| inc0 | brb, daily | 09:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Add support status to docs for properties https://review.openstack.org/147434 | 09:43 |
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| pas-ha | morning all | 10:11 |
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| jamielennox | shardy: hey when you have a minute i got https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146368/ passing gate, can you have a look and sanity check it for me | 10:37 |
| shardy | jamielennox: sure, will do | 10:37 |
| shardy | yay, all green :) | 10:37 |
| jamielennox | full review is good, but even just to make sure i'm not doing something stupid | 10:37 |
| jamielennox | i'll be around for 30min or so to discuss if you need/see anything | 10:38 |
| shardy | jamielennox: it's a shame so much is going into the context vs the keystone client plugin | 10:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Remove default for DISTRIBUTED property https://review.openstack.org/147242 | 10:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kuznetsova proposed openstack/heat: Remove now unneed functional tests https://review.openstack.org/147454 | 10:39 |
| jamielennox | shardy: it's not actually that much, there's that plugin which i have proposed already for ksc | 10:39 |
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| jamielennox | but in general there's some reorganizing but for those plugins we can get to use a pluigin directly it'll be simpler | 10:41 |
| jamielennox | also there is the problem of handling new and older versions | 10:41 |
| jamielennox | if i could restrict heat to only using auth_token > 1.3 then a whole bunch of stuff could be cleared out | 10:41 |
| * cmyster nods | 10:42 | |
| shardy | jamielennox: Ok, looks generally good, I'll give a more full review later | 10:42 |
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| shardy | jamielennox: I'd envisaged most of the stuff in heat_keystoneclient moving to a plugin under heat/heat/engine/clients/os | 10:43 |
| shardy | is that the direction you're headed? | 10:43 |
| jamielennox | shardy: cool, that's all i was looking for now, just want to make sure i had the right idea | 10:43 |
| jamielennox | shardy: right | 10:43 |
| jamielennox | heat will probably still need some v2/v3 abstraction | 10:43 |
| shardy | jamielennox: Yeah, I expected just two plugins | 10:43 |
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| shardy | we've already moved the v2 shim to contrib | 10:44 |
| jamielennox | but once auth is seperated from clients in general keystone will work just like any other client | 10:44 |
| shardy | so everything in the main tree can be v3 only | 10:44 |
| jamielennox | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147392/ | 10:44 |
| cmyster | that includes tests ? | 10:44 |
| jamielennox | it doesn't look like much, but its on the way | 10:44 |
| cmyster | integrationtests that is | 10:44 |
| shardy | cmyster: what includes tests? | 10:44 |
| jamielennox | cmyster: i've tried fairly hard not to change anything | 10:44 |
| cmyster | authenticating | 10:44 |
| jamielennox | generally even the methods are exactly the same as some plugins live out of tree | 10:45 |
| shardy | cmyster: I'm talking about our requirements for keystone API version v3, not v3 vs v2 auth_tokens | 10:45 |
| jamielennox | so whilst its been srearranged the old tests will work | 10:45 |
| shardy | several of our features just don't work with v2 (trusts, domains) so we need v3 for the main tree | 10:45 |
| cmyster | shardy: something completely different, did you see the bug I posted ~4h ago ? | 10:47 |
| shardy | cmyster: probably we'll need to refactor https://github.com/openstack/heat/tree/master/contrib/heat_keystoneclient_v2 in a similar way to the in-tree heat_keystoneclient | 10:47 |
| jamielennox | shardy: right - i think that other than auth (maybe including) if there is no keystone v3 we just don't let heat work at all | 10:47 |
| shardy | the maintenance overhead involved with supporting v2 is annoying, but some folks say they still need it | 10:47 |
| jamielennox | shardy: how much support is there for v2/ | 10:48 |
| shardy | jamielennox: Yeah, that's already the case unless you configure that v2 shim | 10:48 |
| jamielennox | ok | 10:48 |
| shardy | jamielennox: we moved that plugin above to contrib to send the message it's only partially supported | 10:48 |
| jamielennox | ah - that's why you do the whole clients('keystone') thing like that | 10:48 |
| jamielennox | makes sense for others but it was a bit weird when keystone was doing your auth | 10:49 |
| shardy | Yeah, we needed everything including the keystoneclient wrapper to be pluggable | 10:49 |
| jamielennox | is keystone the only client that has such different interfaces between versions? | 10:49 |
| shardy | Originally I just ripped out v2 support and there was some considerable outcry ;) | 10:49 |
| shardy | hence the v2 shim | 10:50 |
| jamielennox | i understand for auth | 10:50 |
| shardy | jamielennox: Yeah, for everything else it should be transparent | 10:50 |
| shardy | it's only because we're reliant on some v3 only features, which don't make sense for the v2 shim | 10:50 |
| jamielennox | that sucks, but i guess it's the one with the most significant difference beteween api versions at this time | 10:51 |
| shardy | in most other clients we don't care much about the version, and neither do most deployers AFAICT | 10:51 |
| shardy | it's just that some major deployers aren't actually using keystone that we're stuck with the v2 shim | 10:51 |
| jamielennox | oh - rax .. | 10:51 |
| shardy | yup | 10:52 |
| jamielennox | does rax allow user creation etc via the API? | 10:52 |
| jamielennox | project creation etc? or is it kind of read only mode? | 10:53 |
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| shardy | jamielennox: I'm not sure, but the v2 shim (which they implemented) supports e.g create_stack_user | 10:53 |
| shardy | so I assume so, I'm not clear on the details tbh | 10:53 |
| shardy | jamielennox: if we're going to conderably rework this we should probably chat to randallburt and the other rax guys to work out a way of not breaking them in the process | 10:54 |
| jamielennox | shardy: i'm up for that | 10:54 |
| shardy | and/or get them to help refactor the v2 shim | 10:55 |
| jamielennox | so at the moment (and in general) my main concern is seperating auth from CRUD | 10:55 |
| jamielennox | i don't think i break rax although i know they did do a v2 auth that has some weird params | 10:55 |
| jamielennox | i'll try and help remove the shim, but my main goal is to not have every project have to mess with their own auth manipulation and contexts | 10:56 |
| shardy | jamielennox: Yeah, I was more thinking if/when we refactor interfaces such that the v2 plugin doesn't match the new interface | 10:56 |
| shardy | jamielennox: great, thanks for picking this up, it's been on my todo list but it's excellent to have you help with it :) | 10:57 |
| shardy | jamielennox: If you can consider https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1306294 as you go that would be even more awesome | 10:58 |
| shardy | We need a way to switch to the stored (trust) context and reauth before a token expires | 10:58 |
| shardy | AFAIK TripleO are working around that by extending the token expiry in keystone atm (to 4 hours) | 10:59 |
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| shardy | but it'd be great to have a way to switch sessions when we get close to expiry | 10:59 |
| jamielennox | i was doing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142967/ and when i investigated the issue found heat really needed more of a priortiy | 10:59 |
| jamielennox | shardy: that should work fine so long as the heat process has what it needs to re-authenticate | 11:00 |
| jamielennox | i'm not sure how thread safe the re-auth is though - how does heat do it? | 11:01 |
| shardy | jamielennox: last time I looked at testing this, I wanted a non-global way to override the default token expiry, really I wanted to e.g specify a short timeout on the POST to get the token, but I couldn't see a way to do it | 11:01 |
| shardy | jamielennox: atm, it doesn't, hence the bug :) | 11:01 |
| shardy | we just take the token in the context and use it for the duration of the stack operation | 11:02 |
| shardy | so when it expires, everything breaks | 11:02 |
| shardy | even if the user provides a username and password in the context | 11:02 |
| shardy | and despite the fact that we've created a trust, so the heat service user could, in theory impersonate the user making the request to complete the operation | 11:02 |
| shardy | initially, I was uncomfortable with the idea of defeating token expiry via trusts, but ayoung seemed to think it was OK | 11:03 |
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| shardy | really, it seems to defeat the purpose of token expiry if any service can delegate all your roles and impersonate you forever | 11:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Prevent hangig in DELETE_IN_PROGRESS https://review.openstack.org/147461 | 11:03 |
| shardy | but, we need that functionality, so what can you do ;) | 11:04 |
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| pas-ha | shardy, but that's why trusts are better - they can be easily revoked AFAICT | 11:07 |
| pas-ha | so if some service starts to exhibit malicious behaviour - it can be quickly disabled | 11:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Fix update on failed stack https://review.openstack.org/147463 | 11:09 |
| angussalkeld | cmyster: ^ | 11:09 |
| shardy | pas-ha: Yeah I guess that's true, in practice that's probably impossible for users though, as they have no knowledge of the delegation that happens | 11:09 |
| shardy | pas-ha: I guess it gives a bit more control to service providers though | 11:09 |
| pas-ha | yep, exactly | 11:10 |
| shardy | it's definitely better than storing a password :-O | 11:10 |
| pas-ha | so true :) | 11:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kuznetsova proposed openstack/heat: Remove now unneed functional tests https://review.openstack.org/147454 | 11:10 |
| shardy | I just wonder if a lot of our problems would be solved if we instead had optional non-expiring tokens, which could be scoped to a specific service | 11:10 |
| angussalkeld | Anastasia: thanks for that patch | 11:11 |
| inc0 | angussalkeld, why the name change?:) | 11:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kuznetsova proposed openstack/heat: Remove now unneeded functional test https://review.openstack.org/147454 | 11:12 |
| angussalkeld | inc0: client got confused | 11:13 |
| angussalkeld | i have to use webchat :-O | 11:13 |
| shardy | irssi ftw ;) | 11:13 |
| angussalkeld | i am on mobile broadband atm | 11:13 |
| angussalkeld | irc port closed | 11:13 |
| inc0 | yeah, those lazy developers made mistake again;) | 11:14 |
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| another_angus | this any better inc0 | 11:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tetiana Lashchova proposed openstack/python-heatclient: [DO NOT MERGE] Remove Python 2.6 classifier https://review.openstack.org/147467 | 11:15 |
| inc0 | as long as you can do as much more reviews as you have aliases, then no | 11:16 |
| jamielennox | shardy: i tend to agree, trusts are a hack around what was supposed to be an actual security measure | 11:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Add support status for network/subnet neutron properties https://review.openstack.org/147468 | 11:16 |
| jamielennox | shardy: if i had any idea how to do it properly i would | 11:16 |
| jamielennox | the only thing i've got is to go for a AWS style not expiring signature | 11:16 |
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| shardy | jamielennox: Yeah, that was what I hoped we'd get from oauth, only there's no way to disable expiry :( | 11:17 |
| shardy | which essentially makes it useless for our in-instance use-case | 11:17 |
| shardy | we've ended up pushing stuff via swift instead, so we can use their tempurl's | 11:18 |
| jamielennox | so there is the thing at the moment where you specify both an X-Auth-Token and a X-Subject-Token | 11:18 |
| jamielennox | i'm kind of hoping (i | 11:18 |
| jamielennox | m not sure) but it might be sufficient that if X-Service-Token is valid then we don't expiry check the X-Auth-Token | 11:19 |
| jamielennox | there's a whole bunch of policy stuff around that which i haven't explored sufficiently yet | 11:19 |
| shardy | ooh, that would certainly be interesting for the trusts use-case | 11:20 |
| shardy | probably won't solve the in-instance one though | 11:20 |
| jamielennox | yea, there are just so many cases that fall either way though - in some places it works, not in others | 11:21 |
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| jamielennox | well the X-Service-Token would be the user from auth_token middleware and capable of re-auth | 11:21 |
| shardy | Really we need a robust native pre-signed URL feature, similar to tempurl and ec2token signatures, but available openstack wide | 11:21 |
| shardy | lots of services have requirements for restricted "webhook" style requests | 11:22 |
| jamielennox | shardy: would they be a one-off url? | 11:22 |
| jamielennox | single use auth? | 11:22 |
| shardy | jamielennox: One-time auth wouldn't work for us, for some use-cases (e.g WaitConditions) a specific count might though | 11:23 |
| jamielennox | in so many ways its the exact same use case as trusts, we just need to add some more security around them | 11:23 |
| jamielennox | trusts have a count | 11:23 |
| jamielennox | but none of this really matters because heat is what is creating the trust/hook | 11:24 |
| shardy | Really we'd need a way to do the exact same thing you can with ec2token signing, e.g provide non-expring access to a specific API resource | 11:24 |
| shardy | jamielennox: Yeah, trusts aren't really used at all for the in-instance auth, that's the domain users stuff | 11:24 |
| jamielennox | shardy: that == trusts but tied to a resource_id - which we could do | 11:24 |
| shardy | we just create users in a different domain then deploy a random password in the instance | 11:25 |
| shardy | (or use ec2token signing via the CFN API, or bounce data via swift using tempurls) | 11:25 |
| jamielennox | we can already restrict roles, but with all this stuff being deploment specific it's almost impossible for people to configure | 11:25 |
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| shardy | jamielennox: Yeah, a way to trust someone to access just a specific API resource would be good | 11:26 |
| shardy | we'd still really need non-expiring tokens or signed requests to avoid deploying passwords though | 11:27 |
| jamielennox | shardy: so maybe this is where policy around X-Service-Token might work | 11:27 |
| jamielennox | one of the main goals is around services storing stuff in swift | 11:27 |
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| jamielennox | so if cinder creates an image in swift on behalf of a user we want the user to own it but not be able to delete it directly | 11:27 |
| jamielennox | so if cinder creates an object for you it uses both X-Auth-Token and X-Service-Token and so you would also need both tokens to delete it | 11:28 |
| shardy | that will be fun when cinder has a bug and fails to clean something up ;) | 11:28 |
| shardy | Yeah, heat could do a similar thing with all the resource it creates | 11:28 |
| jamielennox | shardy: sure - but it's pretty much the same as now | 11:28 |
| jamielennox | i think it's cinder where you have the choice if you want to deploy it in the user's container or in a cinder specific container | 11:29 |
| jamielennox | i don't know how it would work yet, but it's something to explore | 11:30 |
| jamielennox | because in heat's case you wouldn't necessarily want to require the X-Auth-Token to do cleanup | 11:30 |
| shardy | Yup, definitely interesting to keep thinking about it | 11:31 |
| jamielennox | anyway - thanks for checking out that auth patch, i'd like to push that through quickly let it settle a while in testing before release | 11:32 |
| shardy | jamielennox: np, I'll review properly this afternoon and probably pull your patches locally to test things a bit | 11:33 |
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| inc0 | angussss, tomorrow (your tomorrow) I think we could start reviewing this patch | 11:39 |
| inc0 | I would appreciate any input | 11:40 |
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| Tango | zaneb: Thanks Zane, want to ask him about the patches for Docker | 18:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add support status for network/subnet neutron properties https://review.openstack.org/147468 | 18:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove keypairs from test_instance_group.py https://review.openstack.org/147136 | 20:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Mistral::Workflow for Mistral workflows https://review.openstack.org/147645 | 20:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Brown proposed openstack/heat-cfntools: Support dnf when specified or yum is missing https://review.openstack.org/142512 | 21:09 |
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| jdandrea | Has this ever happened to anyone? Snapshot a VM. Save image to a qcow2 file. Copy it to another cluster. Add the image. Boot a VM from it ... but it seems to be the WRONG image. I'm using UUIDs all the way through. It's like a Twilight Zone episode. | 21:16 |
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| larsks | jdandrea: wrong image...like, it boots, but not into the environment you expected? | 21:20 |
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| jdandrea | Correct. It's *slightly off* ... | 21:22 |
| jdandrea | Trying again. I have someone watching this time so you KNOW it's gonna work now. ;) | 21:22 |
| larsks | :) | 21:22 |
| ryansb | can confirm: when other people are watching, things work great. | 21:24 |
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| jdandrea | Sometimes I break the mold. :-p | 21:25 |
| larsks | \o/ | 21:25 |
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| cphrmky | can anyone point me to a reference implementation of how to use heat with Chef ? | 21:27 |
| ryansb | cphrmky: yeah, 1 second | 21:27 |
| ryansb | hrm, there's not a chef example in here | 21:28 |
| sdake | jdandrea if you do that you need to squash the qcow2 iamge | 21:28 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80229/ | 21:28 |
| ryansb | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot/software-config/example-templates | 21:28 |
| shardy | ryansb: AFAIK it's still in progress | 21:28 |
| sdake | jdandrea look into qemu-img ocmmand "commit" | 21:29 |
| ryansb | ah, I thought it was in juno, but I could be wrong since I've never used it | 21:29 |
| jdandrea | sdake: Squash it if I do what? | 21:29 |
| jdandrea | sdake: Ooh. | 21:29 |
| shardy | ryansb: Heat supports it, it's the in-instance hook we don't yet have | 21:29 |
| ryansb | ah, gotcha. | 21:30 |
| shardy | I'm not really sure what the status is, has gone a bit quiet on that review lately.. | 21:30 |
| jdandrea | sdake: Is it getting some prior version somehow? | 21:30 |
| cphrmky | ryansb shardy thanks for the info, sounds like there's nothing available that's complete at any ratge | 21:30 |
| cphrmky | rate* | 21:30 |
| sdake | yes, qemu has links to old images | 21:30 |
| sdake | rather qcow2 | 21:30 |
| sdake | you need to use commit to save the latest bits | 21:31 |
| jdandrea | sdake: Innnnteresting. | 21:31 |
| jdandrea | So when do I do this? After what point in the OS workflow (using CLI). | 21:31 |
| sdake | atleast that is what I do with qemu-img | 21:31 |
| sdake | I will givey ou an example of when I dot his | 21:31 |
| sdake | I boot an image using nova boot | 21:31 |
| jdandrea | sdake: ok | 21:31 |
| sdake | I then modify it using "rpm-ostree upgrade" | 21:31 |
| sdake | I then sync the filesystem | 21:31 |
| sdake | i then use nova stop to stop the image | 21:31 |
| sdake | then I find the image on the harddisk in the instances directroy | 21:32 |
| ryansb | cphrmky: sorry, you can use cloud-init scripts to get chef going, so it's possible | 21:32 |
| sdake | and use qemu-img commit to save to a new qcow2 | 21:32 |
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| sdake | that is how I've done it before4, not sure how you would fit it into your particular workflow | 21:32 |
| jdandrea | sdake: So taking a snapshot doesn't necessarily get you what was being used at that moment? | 21:32 |
| sdake | I dont know anything about snapshots sorry | 21:32 |
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| jdandrea | sdake: Ahhh. That's a nova thing (and glance, by extension). | 21:33 |
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| jdandrea | sdake: Whenever I've used snapshots they always give me a current image. | 21:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Brown proposed openstack/heat-cfntools: Support dnf when specified or yum is missing https://review.openstack.org/142512 | 21:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/146690 | 21:43 |
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| jdandrea | Ok, this is so Twilight Zone. The file that I'm seeing change, incidentally, is a localrc file (in /data/devstack). The TIME of the change is right around when I log in, and bashrc/profile for ec2-user show no evidence of foul play. | 21:58 |
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| jdandrea | I think I've got it. | 22:00 |
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| jdandrea | When the snapshot is used to boot a VM, and that VM was previously created with a cloud-init script ... | 22:00 |
| jdandrea | ... does that script get re-invoked? | 22:00 |
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| jdandrea | I'm betting YES. | 22:01 |
| jdandrea | Maybe I just boot with a forced, blank cloud-init script. | 22:02 |
| jdandrea | Can I use nova to do that or would I ... use heat? ;) | 22:05 |
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| asalkeld | morning | 22:24 |
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| jamielennox | asalkeld: are you able to explain shardy's comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146368/6/heat/common/heat_keystoneclient.py a bit further? (assuming that shardy is not here) | 23:16 |
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| asalkeld | looking jamielennox | 23:18 |
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| asalkeld | jamielennox: yeah, he seems to explain it well | 23:20 |
| asalkeld | what more do you need? | 23:20 |
| jamielennox | asalkeld: so my main thought is i'm not sure how i've changed anything | 23:20 |
| asalkeld | i see | 23:21 |
| jamielennox | by creating the auth plugin (which i removed) you add an X-Auth-Token to the request that is made | 23:21 |
| jamielennox | however that header is ignored during the auth process | 23:21 |
| asalkeld | so you have removed the ....Password(user_domain_name=self.stack_domain) | 23:22 |
| asalkeld | where does that happen now | 23:22 |
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| asalkeld | jamielennox: i guess he thinks that creating a new session as that user in needed for that post to work | 23:27 |
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| jamielennox | asalkeld: so in terms of background session works similar to a requests.Session, it's a transport and if you give it an auth plugin it will auth and automatically add the X-Auth-Token header to requests you make | 23:29 |
| asalkeld | ok, maybe it's a misunderstand of shardy's | 23:29 |
| jamielennox | actually, there is explicitly the call to authenticated=False so that won't happen | 23:30 |
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| jamielennox | asalkeld: ok i'll leave a comment and take it up with him later | 23:33 |
| jamielennox | thanks | 23:33 |
| jamielennox | just thought i might be missing something | 23:33 |
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