Monday, 2015-01-19

openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/heat: Convert some clients to use auth plugin  https://review.openstack.org/14739200:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Added unit test for unavailable resource  https://review.openstack.org/14520600:23
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron subnet constraint  https://review.openstack.org/13587501:26
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron router constraint  https://review.openstack.org/13588001:30
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Qimingmorning!01:44
Qiminganyone else suffering from the so many oslo namespace errors recently?01:44
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asalkeldhttps://ask.openstack.org/en/question/46495/heat-autoscaling-adaptation-actions-on-existing-servers/03:19
asalkeldhear requests for that enough times03:19
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Enable resource signals be handled asynchronously  https://review.openstack.org/14486303:41
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sdakeasalkeld ya that blueprint is money - surprised it hasn't been implemented yet04:16
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asalkeldooo, that time already "Your discount code for OpenStack Summit in Vancouver"04:30
sdakehmm I wonder if I have a commit in this cycle04:30
sdaketoo bad stackforge projects don't count04:30
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sdakesweet I have a commit in ironic this cycle ;-)04:34
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asalkeldwhat is the list of previous summits?04:37
asalkeldtrick question04:37
asalkeldsan diego, portland, hong kong, atlanta, paris - starting to add up04:41
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Enable resource signals be handled asynchronously  https://review.openstack.org/14486304:49
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sdakeman that julien guy must work his ass off05:47
sdakeI work pretty hard, and he has almost double my commits05:47
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KanagarajMasalkeld: Angus, could you give your inputs on the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146044/ comment.05:57
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openstackgerritunmesh-gurjar proposed openstack/heat: Return available info for uncreated resource  https://review.openstack.org/14342506:00
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14676406:02
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skraynevMorning07:08
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cmysterasalkeld: from the hoody we got in Paris you missed a couple07:14
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inc0good morning08:10
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Qimingthis oslo namespace warning is really really annoying ...08:11
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Qimingany plan to fix it some time?08:14
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Enable resource signals be handled asynchronously  https://review.openstack.org/14486308:29
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shardymorning all08:57
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Qiming_morning, shardy09:04
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cmystermorning shardy09:21
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pas-hamorning all09:59
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron subnet constraint  https://review.openstack.org/13587510:10
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron subnet constraint  https://review.openstack.org/13587510:11
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron router constraint  https://review.openstack.org/13588010:12
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Enable resource signals be handled asynchronously  https://review.openstack.org/14486310:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Move template resource tests to functional  https://review.openstack.org/14462211:00
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openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: First objects - stack and raw template  https://review.openstack.org/14684111:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14676411:55
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cmysteris Martin Luther King day a public holliday ?12:18
cmysterzaneb: ^12:19
cmysterhmmm might be too early in the day12:19
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Improve address description by example  https://review.openstack.org/14824512:51
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openstackgerritChmouel Boudjnah proposed openstack/heat-templates: Install generic latest puppet release repository  https://review.openstack.org/14687312:55
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Remove default for DISTRIBUTED property  https://review.openstack.org/14724213:04
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jdandreasdake: yeah, it isn't.13:20
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move the resource group adopt test to functional  https://review.openstack.org/14492513:20
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move ResourceGroup update sequence test to functional  https://review.openstack.org/14492613:20
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Unit test name_list and black_list  https://review.openstack.org/14492713:20
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Convert parser tests that need nested stacks to unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/14492913:20
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move resource group property update tests to functional  https://review.openstack.org/14492813:20
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jdandreacmyster: MLK is observed here in NY/NJ/PA (US) but my son's school district is not closed, and businesses are open. Some school districts are closed though. It varies.13:22
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cmysterjdandrea: thanks13:23
jdandreacmyster: np!13:23
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asalkeldg'night13:25
cmysternn asalkeld13:27
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Qiminghello?14:46
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Qimingare people seeing the same annoying 'oslo namespace deprecated ...' message recently as I do?14:47
sdakeqiming ya that is normal, someone needd sto port the usage of oslo namespace to correct package14:52
sdakeit went from oslo.messaging to oslo_messaging iirc14:53
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Qimingsdake, 'glad' I'm not the only one suffering from this, :P14:53
sdakeor maybe it was a ddifferent package besiddes that14:53
sdakeit is being done to all the oslo librarires over time14:53
sdakeso the warnings will multiply, and multiply14:53
sdakesorry agent smith moment there ;)14:54
Qimingsdake, in my case, most packages are complaining about oslo, event oslo packages themselves,14:54
sdakeya its a real mess14:54
Qimingmy whole screen is filled with these messages, cannot find where the real error message now14:54
therveWe need to make the new version the minimal one first14:55
therveI don't see in a successful run, FWIW14:56
Qimingbut we cannot change heat code alone at the moment, right?14:56
therveNot until the minimal required version is 1.5.114:57
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Qimingtherve, thanks, then we have to wait, :(14:57
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sdakeqiming which package is complaining about concurrency?15:08
Qimingsdake, no such complaints observed15:10
sdakewhat are the complaints about qiming15:10
sdakewhich package?15:11
Qimingoslo.utils, oslo.log, oslo.i18n, oslo.middleware ...15:11
sdakecool I'll find someone to fix them then15:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Enable H202 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14475715:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Enable H402 style check  https://review.openstack.org/14476115:12
cmysterlogic test, defining a neutron router works only between an external and an internal nets right ?15:12
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sdakecmyster if you define external as the one with the routing flag, I dont think that logic is valid15:13
sdakehow do you define an edxternal net?15:13
sdakeI would think you could route multiple internal networks together, but I am not certain15:13
sdakethey may need the routing flag15:13
sdaketry stevebaker in 4-5 hrs15:14
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cmystersdake: went to the guy with the original question (he sits next door) he wanted to connect a couple of subnets with a router15:15
cmystershould be easy enough15:15
sdakecmyster probably best place to ask is #openstack-neutron and phrase in terms of using the neutron rest api15:17
sdakethey could tell you for certain15:17
sdakethe rest of the heat devs just guess when it come to nuetron :)15:17
cmysterthey just did (though not on #)15:17
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cmysterI was just wondering 'cause of the external_gateway_info in OS::Neutron::Router whereis the guy here wanted to connect two internal nets which is perfectly OK via neutron http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/l3_workflow.html (3rd row)15:21
cmysterbut maybe I'll ask stevebaker when he is here as you suggested15:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Remove default for DISTRIBUTED property  https://review.openstack.org/14724215:27
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zanebcmyster: other way around, I think. a Router connects two internal subnets (but not using the external_gateway_info)15:32
zanebalso: https://twitter.com/stevebake/status/556991832958046209 so who knows if stevebaker will be in today15:32
* cmyster Hmmms15:33
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cmysterthanks zaneb, the external property is an optional one anyway. I'll just give it a go and see.15:33
sdaketherve which has to be updated to 1.5 ?15:35
thervesdake, Sorry?15:36
zanebcmyster: afaik you just define a RouterInterface on each subnet, connect them to the router and ignore the external gateway property15:36
cmysterexactly what I am working on15:36
sdake<therve> Not until the minimal required version is 1.5.115:36
cmysterI'll let you know if interested15:36
thervesdake, oslo.messaging15:36
sdakezaneb that should work15:36
sdakeoh righ therve, but the rest of the code base could probably be converted15:37
thervesdake, The rest of which code base?15:37
sdakeheat15:37
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sdakeoslo.log etc15:37
sdakeis it just olso.messaging that is complaining?15:37
thervesdake, You can't because the oslo.messaging 1.4 doesn't have the oslo_messaging package15:37
sdakeoslo_log doesn't depend on oslo.messaging15:37
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sdakeit is possible to convert some of the code base, just not all of it15:38
therveI bet the problem is the same with oslo.log15:38
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sdaketherve cool I'll double check15:38
sdakeI know we converted oslo.concurrency in magnum and that went ok15:38
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dims__sdake: therve: fyi, we are trying to make sure oslo_log's api looks good by porting nova first and getting it through all the jobs. thats almost done. hoping to get a oslo.log into requirements soon, then it can be used by everyone15:42
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sdakedims__ is oslo.log the next to be ported?15:42
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dims__oslo.log is already in pypi, but not in global requirements15:43
dims__yes15:43
sdakedims__ do you ahve the nova review handy?15:43
dims__sdake: one sec15:43
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Improve address description by example  https://review.openstack.org/14824515:43
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dims__sdake: here's the nova review (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147635/) you will see job failures in that review since oslo.log is not in global. for the actual job runs, see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147641/15:45
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sdakedims__ when will that review make it through the gaet and global requirements be updated?15:49
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dims__sdake: day or two15:55
dims__hopefully15:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Enable resource signals be handled asynchronously  https://review.openstack.org/14486315:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Account for nested stack validation in ResourceGroup  https://review.openstack.org/14561715:56
cmysterthanks zaneb and sdake it was simpler then I have thought15:58
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sdakedims__ thanks :)16:03
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sdakehey zaneb I've got a template - the second time I instantiate it16:14
sdakeneutron blows up during the instantation16:14
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sdakecomplains about a port not being found16:15
sdakeI suspect you want more data :)16:15
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cmystersdake: regarding that router issue, that guy still couldn't find out the issue on his stack and it weas simply two resources with the same name... I'm gonna guess its a bug here, as only one of the resources was created.16:19
cmysterI'm pretty sure that this should be cought up in verification stage?16:19
shardycmyster: I think it's a yaml thing, after parsing heat will only see one resource16:23
cmystershardy: seems like it as only one is created... something minor, but still should be validated IMO16:23
shardycmyster: like I said, it's a yaml thing, so we can't validate it without somehow reimplementing part of the yaml parser16:24
shardyby the time we get the data, the yaml parser has already extracted just the last of the dupes and the first one is lost16:25
shardyso we've got no way to detect the string-level duplicate key16:25
sdakeits a shame that doesn't parse error the yaml interpreter16:27
sdakeor return it as a dict16:27
sdakeor a list16:28
sdakeor something reasonable ;)16:28
cmysteror yaml16:30
cmyster;)16:31
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pas-hacmyster, that's a long known problem of PyYAML and its C-lib, it has no option to at least warn about the same name redefinition of a key in a map17:01
pas-hait just silently writes it over17:01
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pas-haand yes, I see that somebody has this problem at least ones a month :)17:02
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zanebpas-ha: that's interesting data. I've heard of that bug cropping up a few times, but I didn't realise it was _that_ common17:03
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pas-hazaneb, it is a usual stumble stone when one writes big templates and copy-pastes a lot :)17:04
zanebI believe we could fix it with a bit of work, although it would have to be in python-heatclient17:04
pas-hait seems that's only possible if we implement our own yaml parser17:05
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shardyzaneb: AFAIT we'd need to fix it in both heatclient and heat, as passing a string to the API does work17:05
zanebok, we can do both. I think they share code anyway17:06
zanebpas-ha: you can customise PyYAML in various ways17:06
shardyzaneb: Yeah, I assumed it'd be quite hard and/or a big maintenance burden, if we have to override/subclass the yaml parser17:06
zanebincluding specifying alternate types for it to use17:06
zanebit's not pretty17:06
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zanebbut if people are running into it this often...17:07
shardyzaneb: cmyster raised https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/141249817:07
shardyfeel free to add specifics if you think we can validate it17:07
zanebI'm thinking we would parse it twice - once to check for errors and once using the standard way to actually use it17:07
shardydocumenting "don't do that" seems a pretty valid approach too though, given that presumably everything everywhere which consumes yaml has the same issue17:08
shardyI found a pyyaml bug which was closed won't fix 6 years ago..17:08
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zanebshardy: really? hard to believe that could ever be a desirable property of a YAML parser :/17:12
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shardyhttp://pyyaml.org/ticket/12817:13
shardyactually, not closed, but recent comments just suggest some online gambling as the fix17:14
shardy"JSON's RFC4627 requires that mappings keys merely “SHOULD” be unique"17:14
shardy"I'm surprised to see that this problem has been pending, unresolved, for five years by now. I'm not familiar at all with libyaml maintenance. Likely that releases do not occur often?"17:16
shardylol!17:16
zanebthere's some superb Markov generator spam in that thread too17:18
zaneb"He is since revered as a front taste, duck and education, but he is best known for the monogamous foot which bears his preparation."17:18
zanebshardy: I added a comment to cmyster's bug, thanks17:20
shardyzaneb: thanks17:20
zanebI may have some code lying around that might help remind me how to actually do it17:20
sdakeshardy online gambling can fix anything !17:24
ryansbguess we can just close all the bugs then.17:26
ryansband go play poker17:26
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sdakedont forget the cigars!17:31
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sdakehey guys, hongbin hs reported heat devstack is busted19:32
sdakecould someone take a look?19:32
sdakehs/has19:33
ryansbon the ML?19:33
sdakeon irc a few minutes ago19:33
sdakeI assume he will add a log here shortly :)19:33
hongbinI ran master devstack by specifying stable/juno heat19:33
sdakein a paste19:33
hongbinhere is the error19:33
hongbinFailed to find roles ['heat_stack_owner'] for user 326910c6ec784728b2ba6eae31f3322019:33
hongbinit is on h-eng19:33
sdakehongbin did you try heat master?19:35
hongbinI can try that19:35
sdakethat would be ideal19:35
sdakethat way we would know if heat changed in some incompatible way19:35
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sdakeor if devstack did ;)19:35
sdakeryansb here is my localrc that hongbin I think is using http://paste.fedoraproject.org/171549/2169620619:36
hongbinyes, I was using it.19:37
sdakehongbin I am using commit 817e9b637a0d5edc46e5654c94388ac834e22203 of devstack with a master checkout of the rest of the packages19:37
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ryansblooks like since then we've changed some things about how roles get assigned http://paste.fedoraproject.org/171555/96803142/19:47
ryansbseems to be the only related heat change19:48
stevebakermorning!19:50
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sdakehongbin what I would suggest is to tell folks to revert whatever change that was in devstack that did that19:58
sdakeunfortunately git blame is not all thathelpful on deletes19:58
hongbink19:59
hongbinI am trying to stack heat master19:59
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ryansbhongbin: waiting for stack.sh to run, please hold20:14
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hongbink20:14
BillArnoldis there a way to configure heat/policy.json so that the admin can introspect on other users' heat stacks?20:16
hongbinsdake ryansh: I change Heat repo from stable/juno to master. The error is not there anymore. (my localrc http://paste.fedoraproject.org/171573/42169872/)20:19
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ryansbhm, odd20:36
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sdakehongbin that is because devstack had a change as linked above that busted heat stable/juno support21:16
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asalkeldmorning21:35
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add "tags" column to stack table  https://review.openstack.org/14373422:23
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add a "tags" parameter to stack-create  https://review.openstack.org/14390822:27
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asalkeldoff on an errand, bbl22:59
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