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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Added unit test for unavailable resource https://review.openstack.org/145206 | 00:23 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron subnet constraint https://review.openstack.org/135875 | 01:26 |
openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron router constraint https://review.openstack.org/135880 | 01:30 |
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Qiming | morning! | 01:44 |
Qiming | anyone else suffering from the so many oslo namespace errors recently? | 01:44 |
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asalkeld | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/46495/heat-autoscaling-adaptation-actions-on-existing-servers/ | 03:19 |
asalkeld | hear requests for that enough times | 03:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Qiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Enable resource signals be handled asynchronously https://review.openstack.org/144863 | 03:41 |
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sdake | asalkeld ya that blueprint is money - surprised it hasn't been implemented yet | 04:16 |
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asalkeld | ooo, that time already "Your discount code for OpenStack Summit in Vancouver" | 04:30 |
sdake | hmm I wonder if I have a commit in this cycle | 04:30 |
sdake | too bad stackforge projects don't count | 04:30 |
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sdake | sweet I have a commit in ironic this cycle ;-) | 04:34 |
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asalkeld | what is the list of previous summits? | 04:37 |
asalkeld | trick question | 04:37 |
asalkeld | san diego, portland, hong kong, atlanta, paris - starting to add up | 04:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Qiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Enable resource signals be handled asynchronously https://review.openstack.org/144863 | 04:49 |
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sdake | man that julien guy must work his ass off | 05:47 |
sdake | I work pretty hard, and he has almost double my commits | 05:47 |
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KanagarajM | asalkeld: Angus, could you give your inputs on the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146044/ comment. | 05:57 |
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openstackgerrit | unmesh-gurjar proposed openstack/heat: Return available info for uncreated resource https://review.openstack.org/143425 | 06:00 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/146764 | 06:02 |
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skraynev | Morning | 07:08 |
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cmyster | morning | 07:13 |
cmyster | asalkeld: from the hoody we got in Paris you missed a couple | 07:14 |
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inc0 | good morning | 08:10 |
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Qiming | this oslo namespace warning is really really annoying ... | 08:11 |
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Qiming | any plan to fix it some time? | 08:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Qiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Enable resource signals be handled asynchronously https://review.openstack.org/144863 | 08:29 |
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shardy | morning all | 08:57 |
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Qiming_ | morning, shardy | 09:04 |
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mattt | morning | 09:15 |
cmyster | morning shardy | 09:21 |
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pas-ha | morning all | 09:59 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron subnet constraint https://review.openstack.org/135875 | 10:10 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron subnet constraint https://review.openstack.org/135875 | 10:11 |
openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron router constraint https://review.openstack.org/135880 | 10:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Qiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Enable resource signals be handled asynchronously https://review.openstack.org/144863 | 10:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Move template resource tests to functional https://review.openstack.org/144622 | 11:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: First objects - stack and raw template https://review.openstack.org/146841 | 11:53 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/146764 | 11:55 |
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cmyster | is Martin Luther King day a public holliday ? | 12:18 |
cmyster | zaneb: ^ | 12:19 |
cmyster | hmmm might be too early in the day | 12:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Improve address description by example https://review.openstack.org/148245 | 12:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Chmouel Boudjnah proposed openstack/heat-templates: Install generic latest puppet release repository https://review.openstack.org/146873 | 12:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Remove default for DISTRIBUTED property https://review.openstack.org/147242 | 13:04 |
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jdandrea | sdake: yeah, it isn't. | 13:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move the resource group adopt test to functional https://review.openstack.org/144925 | 13:20 |
openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move ResourceGroup update sequence test to functional https://review.openstack.org/144926 | 13:20 |
openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Unit test name_list and black_list https://review.openstack.org/144927 | 13:20 |
openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Convert parser tests that need nested stacks to unit tests https://review.openstack.org/144929 | 13:20 |
openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move resource group property update tests to functional https://review.openstack.org/144928 | 13:20 |
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jdandrea | cmyster: MLK is observed here in NY/NJ/PA (US) but my son's school district is not closed, and businesses are open. Some school districts are closed though. It varies. | 13:22 |
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cmyster | jdandrea: thanks | 13:23 |
jdandrea | cmyster: np! | 13:23 |
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asalkeld | g'night | 13:25 |
cmyster | nn asalkeld | 13:27 |
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Qiming | hello? | 14:46 |
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Qiming | are people seeing the same annoying 'oslo namespace deprecated ...' message recently as I do? | 14:47 |
sdake | qiming ya that is normal, someone needd sto port the usage of oslo namespace to correct package | 14:52 |
sdake | it went from oslo.messaging to oslo_messaging iirc | 14:53 |
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Qiming | sdake, 'glad' I'm not the only one suffering from this, :P | 14:53 |
sdake | or maybe it was a ddifferent package besiddes that | 14:53 |
sdake | it is being done to all the oslo librarires over time | 14:53 |
sdake | so the warnings will multiply, and multiply | 14:53 |
sdake | sorry agent smith moment there ;) | 14:54 |
Qiming | sdake, in my case, most packages are complaining about oslo, event oslo packages themselves, | 14:54 |
sdake | ya its a real mess | 14:54 |
Qiming | my whole screen is filled with these messages, cannot find where the real error message now | 14:54 |
therve | We need to make the new version the minimal one first | 14:55 |
therve | I don't see in a successful run, FWIW | 14:56 |
Qiming | but we cannot change heat code alone at the moment, right? | 14:56 |
therve | Not until the minimal required version is 1.5.1 | 14:57 |
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Qiming | therve, thanks, then we have to wait, :( | 14:57 |
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sdake | qiming which package is complaining about concurrency? | 15:08 |
Qiming | sdake, no such complaints observed | 15:10 |
sdake | what are the complaints about qiming | 15:10 |
sdake | which package? | 15:11 |
Qiming | oslo.utils, oslo.log, oslo.i18n, oslo.middleware ... | 15:11 |
sdake | cool I'll find someone to fix them then | 15:11 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Enable H202 style check https://review.openstack.org/144757 | 15:11 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Enable H402 style check https://review.openstack.org/144761 | 15:12 |
cmyster | logic test, defining a neutron router works only between an external and an internal nets right ? | 15:12 |
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sdake | cmyster if you define external as the one with the routing flag, I dont think that logic is valid | 15:13 |
sdake | how do you define an edxternal net? | 15:13 |
sdake | I would think you could route multiple internal networks together, but I am not certain | 15:13 |
sdake | they may need the routing flag | 15:13 |
sdake | try stevebaker in 4-5 hrs | 15:14 |
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cmyster | sdake: went to the guy with the original question (he sits next door) he wanted to connect a couple of subnets with a router | 15:15 |
cmyster | should be easy enough | 15:15 |
sdake | cmyster probably best place to ask is #openstack-neutron and phrase in terms of using the neutron rest api | 15:17 |
sdake | they could tell you for certain | 15:17 |
sdake | the rest of the heat devs just guess when it come to nuetron :) | 15:17 |
cmyster | they just did (though not on #) | 15:17 |
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cmyster | I was just wondering 'cause of the external_gateway_info in OS::Neutron::Router whereis the guy here wanted to connect two internal nets which is perfectly OK via neutron http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/l3_workflow.html (3rd row) | 15:21 |
cmyster | but maybe I'll ask stevebaker when he is here as you suggested | 15:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove default for DISTRIBUTED property https://review.openstack.org/147242 | 15:27 |
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zaneb | cmyster: other way around, I think. a Router connects two internal subnets (but not using the external_gateway_info) | 15:32 |
zaneb | also: https://twitter.com/stevebake/status/556991832958046209 so who knows if stevebaker will be in today | 15:32 |
* cmyster Hmmms | 15:33 | |
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cmyster | thanks zaneb, the external property is an optional one anyway. I'll just give it a go and see. | 15:33 |
sdake | therve which has to be updated to 1.5 ? | 15:35 |
therve | sdake, Sorry? | 15:36 |
zaneb | cmyster: afaik you just define a RouterInterface on each subnet, connect them to the router and ignore the external gateway property | 15:36 |
cmyster | exactly what I am working on | 15:36 |
sdake | <therve> Not until the minimal required version is 1.5.1 | 15:36 |
cmyster | I'll let you know if interested | 15:36 |
therve | sdake, oslo.messaging | 15:36 |
sdake | zaneb that should work | 15:36 |
sdake | oh righ therve, but the rest of the code base could probably be converted | 15:37 |
therve | sdake, The rest of which code base? | 15:37 |
sdake | heat | 15:37 |
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sdake | oslo.log etc | 15:37 |
sdake | is it just olso.messaging that is complaining? | 15:37 |
therve | sdake, You can't because the oslo.messaging 1.4 doesn't have the oslo_messaging package | 15:37 |
sdake | oslo_log doesn't depend on oslo.messaging | 15:37 |
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sdake | it is possible to convert some of the code base, just not all of it | 15:38 |
therve | I bet the problem is the same with oslo.log | 15:38 |
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sdake | therve cool I'll double check | 15:38 |
sdake | I know we converted oslo.concurrency in magnum and that went ok | 15:38 |
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dims__ | sdake: therve: fyi, we are trying to make sure oslo_log's api looks good by porting nova first and getting it through all the jobs. thats almost done. hoping to get a oslo.log into requirements soon, then it can be used by everyone | 15:42 |
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sdake | dims__ is oslo.log the next to be ported? | 15:42 |
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dims__ | oslo.log is already in pypi, but not in global requirements | 15:43 |
dims__ | yes | 15:43 |
sdake | dims__ do you ahve the nova review handy? | 15:43 |
dims__ | sdake: one sec | 15:43 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Improve address description by example https://review.openstack.org/148245 | 15:43 |
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dims__ | sdake: here's the nova review (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147635/) you will see job failures in that review since oslo.log is not in global. for the actual job runs, see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147641/ | 15:45 |
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sdake | dims__ when will that review make it through the gaet and global requirements be updated? | 15:49 |
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dims__ | sdake: day or two | 15:55 |
dims__ | hopefully | 15:55 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Enable resource signals be handled asynchronously https://review.openstack.org/144863 | 15:56 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Account for nested stack validation in ResourceGroup https://review.openstack.org/145617 | 15:56 |
cmyster | thanks zaneb and sdake it was simpler then I have thought | 15:58 |
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sdake | dims__ thanks :) | 16:03 |
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sdake | hey zaneb I've got a template - the second time I instantiate it | 16:14 |
sdake | neutron blows up during the instantation | 16:14 |
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sdake | complains about a port not being found | 16:15 |
sdake | I suspect you want more data :) | 16:15 |
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cmyster | sdake: regarding that router issue, that guy still couldn't find out the issue on his stack and it weas simply two resources with the same name... I'm gonna guess its a bug here, as only one of the resources was created. | 16:19 |
cmyster | I'm pretty sure that this should be cought up in verification stage? | 16:19 |
shardy | cmyster: I think it's a yaml thing, after parsing heat will only see one resource | 16:23 |
cmyster | shardy: seems like it as only one is created... something minor, but still should be validated IMO | 16:23 |
shardy | cmyster: like I said, it's a yaml thing, so we can't validate it without somehow reimplementing part of the yaml parser | 16:24 |
shardy | by the time we get the data, the yaml parser has already extracted just the last of the dupes and the first one is lost | 16:25 |
shardy | so we've got no way to detect the string-level duplicate key | 16:25 |
sdake | its a shame that doesn't parse error the yaml interpreter | 16:27 |
sdake | or return it as a dict | 16:27 |
sdake | or a list | 16:28 |
sdake | or something reasonable ;) | 16:28 |
cmyster | or yaml | 16:30 |
cmyster | ;) | 16:31 |
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pas-ha | cmyster, that's a long known problem of PyYAML and its C-lib, it has no option to at least warn about the same name redefinition of a key in a map | 17:01 |
pas-ha | it just silently writes it over | 17:01 |
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pas-ha | and yes, I see that somebody has this problem at least ones a month :) | 17:02 |
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zaneb | pas-ha: that's interesting data. I've heard of that bug cropping up a few times, but I didn't realise it was _that_ common | 17:03 |
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pas-ha | zaneb, it is a usual stumble stone when one writes big templates and copy-pastes a lot :) | 17:04 |
zaneb | I believe we could fix it with a bit of work, although it would have to be in python-heatclient | 17:04 |
pas-ha | it seems that's only possible if we implement our own yaml parser | 17:05 |
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shardy | zaneb: AFAIT we'd need to fix it in both heatclient and heat, as passing a string to the API does work | 17:05 |
zaneb | ok, we can do both. I think they share code anyway | 17:06 |
zaneb | pas-ha: you can customise PyYAML in various ways | 17:06 |
shardy | zaneb: Yeah, I assumed it'd be quite hard and/or a big maintenance burden, if we have to override/subclass the yaml parser | 17:06 |
zaneb | including specifying alternate types for it to use | 17:06 |
zaneb | it's not pretty | 17:06 |
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zaneb | but if people are running into it this often... | 17:07 |
shardy | zaneb: cmyster raised https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1412498 | 17:07 |
shardy | feel free to add specifics if you think we can validate it | 17:07 |
zaneb | I'm thinking we would parse it twice - once to check for errors and once using the standard way to actually use it | 17:07 |
shardy | documenting "don't do that" seems a pretty valid approach too though, given that presumably everything everywhere which consumes yaml has the same issue | 17:08 |
shardy | I found a pyyaml bug which was closed won't fix 6 years ago.. | 17:08 |
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zaneb | shardy: really? hard to believe that could ever be a desirable property of a YAML parser :/ | 17:12 |
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shardy | http://pyyaml.org/ticket/128 | 17:13 |
shardy | actually, not closed, but recent comments just suggest some online gambling as the fix | 17:14 |
shardy | "JSON's RFC4627 requires that mappings keys merely “SHOULD” be unique" | 17:14 |
shardy | "I'm surprised to see that this problem has been pending, unresolved, for five years by now. I'm not familiar at all with libyaml maintenance. Likely that releases do not occur often?" | 17:16 |
shardy | lol! | 17:16 |
zaneb | there's some superb Markov generator spam in that thread too | 17:18 |
zaneb | "He is since revered as a front taste, duck and education, but he is best known for the monogamous foot which bears his preparation." | 17:18 |
zaneb | shardy: I added a comment to cmyster's bug, thanks | 17:20 |
shardy | zaneb: thanks | 17:20 |
zaneb | I may have some code lying around that might help remind me how to actually do it | 17:20 |
sdake | shardy online gambling can fix anything ! | 17:24 |
ryansb | guess we can just close all the bugs then. | 17:26 |
ryansb | and go play poker | 17:26 |
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sdake | dont forget the cigars! | 17:31 |
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sdake | hey guys, hongbin hs reported heat devstack is busted | 19:32 |
sdake | could someone take a look? | 19:32 |
sdake | hs/has | 19:33 |
ryansb | on the ML? | 19:33 |
sdake | on irc a few minutes ago | 19:33 |
sdake | I assume he will add a log here shortly :) | 19:33 |
hongbin | I ran master devstack by specifying stable/juno heat | 19:33 |
sdake | in a paste | 19:33 |
hongbin | here is the error | 19:33 |
hongbin | Failed to find roles ['heat_stack_owner'] for user 326910c6ec784728b2ba6eae31f33220 | 19:33 |
hongbin | it is on h-eng | 19:33 |
sdake | hongbin did you try heat master? | 19:35 |
hongbin | I can try that | 19:35 |
sdake | that would be ideal | 19:35 |
sdake | that way we would know if heat changed in some incompatible way | 19:35 |
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sdake | or if devstack did ;) | 19:35 |
sdake | ryansb here is my localrc that hongbin I think is using http://paste.fedoraproject.org/171549/21696206 | 19:36 |
hongbin | yes, I was using it. | 19:37 |
sdake | hongbin I am using commit 817e9b637a0d5edc46e5654c94388ac834e22203 of devstack with a master checkout of the rest of the packages | 19:37 |
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ryansb | looks like since then we've changed some things about how roles get assigned http://paste.fedoraproject.org/171555/96803142/ | 19:47 |
ryansb | seems to be the only related heat change | 19:48 |
stevebaker | morning! | 19:50 |
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ryansb | morning | 19:52 |
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sdake | hongbin what I would suggest is to tell folks to revert whatever change that was in devstack that did that | 19:58 |
sdake | unfortunately git blame is not all thathelpful on deletes | 19:58 |
hongbin | k | 19:59 |
hongbin | I am trying to stack heat master | 19:59 |
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ryansb | hongbin: waiting for stack.sh to run, please hold | 20:14 |
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hongbin | k | 20:14 |
BillArnold | is there a way to configure heat/policy.json so that the admin can introspect on other users' heat stacks? | 20:16 |
hongbin | sdake ryansh: I change Heat repo from stable/juno to master. The error is not there anymore. (my localrc http://paste.fedoraproject.org/171573/42169872/) | 20:19 |
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ryansb | hm, odd | 20:36 |
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sdake | hongbin that is because devstack had a change as linked above that busted heat stable/juno support | 21:16 |
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asalkeld | morning | 21:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add "tags" column to stack table https://review.openstack.org/143734 | 22:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add a "tags" parameter to stack-create https://review.openstack.org/143908 | 22:27 |
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asalkeld | off on an errand, bbl | 22:59 |
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