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| stevebaker | zaneb: should I raise the stack-create use-convergence flag in the spec review or the dev list? | 00:15 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, i think it was to be a ml issue | 00:18 |
| stevebaker | it was, I'll write it | 00:18 |
| asalkeld | you see SIGHUP to any heat service causes it to exit :-( | 00:18 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: as a matter of interest, what do other openstack services do on sighup? | 00:24 |
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| asalkeld | aparently nova reloads config | 00:24 |
| asalkeld | https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+bug/1276694 | 00:25 |
| asalkeld | says fix released, but doesn't seem to do the job | 00:26 |
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| stevebaker | swift-proxy-server exits | 00:27 |
| asalkeld | i think that is the default signal response | 00:28 |
| stevebaker | cinder-api dies. | 00:28 |
| asalkeld | from "man 7 signal" SIGHUP 1 Term | 00:29 |
| stevebaker | I don't think it is mandatory for daemons to reload config on SIGHUP but it is a reasonable expectation that it should, and a nice usability thing | 00:29 |
| asalkeld | terminate is the default action if you don't implement it | 00:29 |
| asalkeld | so, yeah sucks to restart your services to reload config/log rotate | 00:30 |
| stevebaker | that is what systemd is for ;) | 00:30 |
| asalkeld | not really | 00:31 |
| asalkeld | it's not going to reload you config for you whilst still providing service | 00:32 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: well, what I mean is that users should always be using their init system to refresh config, and when heat supports it, the systemd unit should have something like ExecReload=/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID | 00:47 |
| stevebaker | http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html | 00:48 |
| asalkeld | o, sure | 00:48 |
| asalkeld | but we need to actually support it | 00:48 |
| asalkeld | (instead of just exiting) | 00:48 |
| asalkeld | but actually most probably use pacemaker instead of systemd | 00:49 |
| asalkeld | a bit weird to have a not-ha cloud | 00:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Wait for all resources to get updated before asserting state https://review.openstack.org/152094 | 01:27 |
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| asalkeld | jamielennox, standalone is broken - only seen when you use constraints | 01:44 |
| asalkeld | jamielennox, i think "session" needs to be private in the keystoneV3 class | 01:45 |
| asalkeld | (or add it to the keystonev2 client | 01:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Add a session to keystoneclient_v2 https://review.openstack.org/152367 | 01:54 |
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| asalkeld | jamielennox, ^ that works for me | 01:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timothy Okwii proposed openstack/heat: fixed typo form dependancy to dependency https://review.openstack.org/152370 | 02:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Enable some unit tests back https://review.openstack.org/150804 | 02:21 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Split instance code into seperate file https://review.openstack.org/139955 | 02:21 |
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| elynn | morning :) | 02:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timothy Okwii proposed openstack/heat: fixed typo from accessable to accessible https://review.openstack.org/152371 | 02:33 |
| stevebaker | any cores about to review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144621/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150366/ | 02:34 |
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| jamielennox | asalkeld: is that not: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151966/ | 02:38 |
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| jamielennox | asalkeld: ideally for places like that we don't actually need the client so we should build the session directly | 02:39 |
| asalkeld | jamielennox, ok - cool that should also do | 02:39 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152094/ | 02:56 |
| asalkeld | finally | 02:56 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: done | 02:59 |
| asalkeld | thx | 02:59 |
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| asalkeld | damn school holidays right in the middle of "release candidate" time | 03:00 |
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| asalkeld | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 03:00 |
| asalkeld | not sure what to do about that | 03:01 |
| stevebaker | delegate? | 03:01 |
| stevebaker | there is no shortage of ex-PTLs | 03:02 |
| asalkeld | yeah, good idea | 03:02 |
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| tiantian | hi, all, would you please to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135823/ and it's sub-patches:) | 03:10 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, is that blueprint wrong (it says implemented) | 03:13 |
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| asalkeld | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/neutron-custom-constraint | 03:13 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, Implements: blueprint apply-neutron-constraints | 03:13 |
| tiantian | this bp just add the constraint, not apply them | 03:13 |
| asalkeld | i see | 03:13 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, is that part of the same spec or seperate | 03:14 |
| asalkeld | (just trying to focus on kilo-2 atm) | 03:14 |
| asalkeld | ok, it's seperate | 03:16 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, i'll tentitively set to k2 | 03:16 |
| tiantian | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135157/ the spec, and target Milestone is k1:( | 03:17 |
| asalkeld | let's try focus on this work: https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/kilo-2 | 03:17 |
| tiantian | ok | 03:17 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, i have set it to k2 | 03:17 |
| asalkeld | but might have to move to k3 if it is not reviewed in time | 03:17 |
| asalkeld | those patches are big | 03:18 |
| tiantian | np, set to k3:) | 03:18 |
| asalkeld | ok - it's only next week | 03:18 |
| asalkeld | done - set to k3 | 03:19 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, time is running out for your blueprint - need that spec in | 03:23 |
| asalkeld | (time running out for decouple-nested too :-( ) | 03:23 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: I think kick it to k-3, because I'd like to move the swift polling from the resource to the service, so I'll be finishing it in parallel to bp software-config-trigger (early k-3) | 03:24 |
| asalkeld | ok | 03:25 |
| asalkeld | k3 is going to be busy | 03:25 |
| stevebaker | lets focus on reviews for decouple-nested | 03:25 |
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| stevebaker | *-3 always is for us :/ | 03:25 |
| asalkeld | yeah | 03:25 |
| asalkeld | we also have lots of bugs to review for k2 | 03:26 |
| asalkeld | breakpoints -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146123/ | 03:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Further fix standalone authentication https://review.openstack.org/151966 | 03:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Make the update policy timeout check into a unit test https://review.openstack.org/150366 | 04:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Use "if stack is not None" and not "if stack" https://review.openstack.org/152071 | 04:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add check_adopt_complete to the stack_resource https://review.openstack.org/152072 | 04:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Wait for all resources to get updated before asserting state https://review.openstack.org/152094 | 04:03 |
| asalkeld | oo, nice | 04:06 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, i didn't know stackalytics now had docker and foundry | 04:26 |
| asalkeld | http://stackalytics.com/?metric=commits&project_type=docker-group | 04:26 |
| asalkeld | picking kids up... | 04:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: fixed typo form dependancy to dependency https://review.openstack.org/152370 | 04:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Enable some unit tests back https://review.openstack.org/150804 | 04:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/151853 | 04:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Fix update on failed stack https://review.openstack.org/147463 | 05:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects - Event https://review.openstack.org/149926 | 06:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/152397 | 06:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Catch notfound exception when deleting project https://review.openstack.org/152406 | 06:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects - Snapshot https://review.openstack.org/151556 | 06:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects - Snapshot https://review.openstack.org/151556 | 06:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects - Event https://review.openstack.org/149926 | 06:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Change to basic notification unit tests https://review.openstack.org/152074 | 07:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Remove duplicate heat_autoscaling_group tests https://review.openstack.org/152073 | 07:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move aws nested stack tests to functional tests https://review.openstack.org/144621 | 07:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/heat: Versioned object - SoftwareConfig https://review.openstack.org/152415 | 07:21 |
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| inc0 | good morning | 07:56 |
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| asalkeld | hi folks, just a reminder to focus on reviewing kilo-2 patches: https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/kilo-2 | 08:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects - Snapshot https://review.openstack.org/151556 | 08:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/heat: Versioned object - SoftwareConfig https://review.openstack.org/152415 | 08:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/heat: Versioned object - SoftwareDeployment https://review.openstack.org/152429 | 08:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Change to basic notification unit tests https://review.openstack.org/152074 | 08:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Remove duplicate heat_autoscaling_group tests https://review.openstack.org/152073 | 08:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move aws nested stack tests to functional tests https://review.openstack.org/144621 | 08:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Catch notfound exception when deleting project https://review.openstack.org/152406 | 09:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Skip Stack Adopt integration tests when Stack Adopt is disabled https://review.openstack.org/152205 | 09:03 |
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| pas-ha | morning all | 09:45 |
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| asalkeld | was anyone going to do this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/rich-network-prop | 10:10 |
| asalkeld | it's approved, with no one taking it on | 10:10 |
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| rlt | Hello, i have one question about the autoscalling (with lbaas) onJuno. Is-it possible to realize a autoscalling template with lbaas without reference on another template (like example autoscalling.yaml and lb_server.yaml) ? | 10:37 |
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| therve | rlt, I don't think so. | 10:43 |
| therve | Possibly if you use the AWS autoscaling group | 10:43 |
| rlt | Ok thanks therve. | 10:44 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: oops, it's mine. I wanted to start it, but was stopped other activities. | 10:47 |
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| asalkeld | np skraynev | 10:48 |
| skraynev | but I remember it :) | 10:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add all dotfiles to the list of pep8 exceptions https://review.openstack.org/150237 | 11:02 |
| asalkeld | ok obsoleted ~ 40 blueprints *only* 186 left | 11:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Skip Stack Adopt integration tests when Stack Adopt is disabled https://review.openstack.org/152205 | 11:14 |
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| asalkeld | g'night all | 11:25 |
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| pas-ha | looks like we have some problem with py34 gate on heatclient. can someone verify it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150745/2 | 12:09 |
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| therve | We switch from 3.3 yesterday I believe | 12:21 |
| therve | The errors look weird though | 12:21 |
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| therve | pas-ha, Reproduced locally | 12:28 |
| pas-ha | urgent fix needed | 12:28 |
| pas-ha | or the gate is blocked | 12:29 |
| pas-ha | most probably some unicode stuff | 12:29 |
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| therve | pas-ha, Difference in behavior of the json module | 12:34 |
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| therve | pas-ha, ^^^ | 12:44 |
| therve | Other corse if you can look at the patch | 12:44 |
| pas-ha | therve, thanks | 12:45 |
| therve | I pinged Jeremy for the potential issue | 12:45 |
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| pas-ha | therve, merging | 13:30 |
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| Xacs | Hi experts. Is there any success story of using heat stack(service/instance/application level) high availability in real openstack production environment? | 14:32 |
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| pm90_ | Xacs: are you asking for openstack deployments in production? | 14:41 |
| Xacs | pm90_: Yes, exactly | 14:42 |
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| pm90_ | Xacs: Rackspaces' cloud orchestration service is basically heat + a few custom patches (well, maybe a bit more than that). I know that others (HP, Mirantis etc.) also use Heat | 14:43 |
| pm90_ | for cloud orchestration | 14:43 |
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| Xacs | pm90_: Yes. But as I read in the heat/HA page(https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/HA), one of the feature provided by heat is control the availability in three levels: 1- stack 2- instance 3- Service. My question is : Is this feature works well and be production ready or not? | 14:47 |
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| pm90_ | Xacs: Not sure, but I think so. I hope someone else can answer that for you. | 14:52 |
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| Xacs | pm90_: Thanks for your responses. | 14:56 |
| pas-ha | Xacs, from service perspective Heat is more or less HA as you can have multiple engines/apis running on different controller hosts | 14:56 |
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| pas-ha | not sure though how we handle IN_PROGRESS stacks if the engine that was executing them dies. Most probably they are not automagically picked up by another engine | 14:57 |
| therve | pas-ha, I think the question is about HA of deployed applications, not HA of heat | 14:58 |
| Xacs | therve: Yes, Exectly. Thanks therve | 14:59 |
| therve | Xacs, That page doesn't map anything that Heat does | 14:59 |
| therve | (like pretty much anything in the wiki) | 14:59 |
| pas-ha | then Resource/Scaling groups of app-bearing instances. When convergence comes might get autohealing as well | 15:00 |
| therve | Xacs, Heat doesn't really provide much do t | 15:00 |
| therve | Xacs, Heat doesn't really provide much do to help doing HA | 15:00 |
| therve | Scaling group is somewhat a way | 15:00 |
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| therve | But you can deploy an HA infrastructure using Heat | 15:01 |
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| Xacs | therve: I am looking for the best way of stateful instance high availability and fail-over mechanism in openstack. I asked about it here(https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/59964/openstack-instance-high-availabilityhow-to-make-pets-vm-highly-available/). And I encountered with this feature in heat. | 15:03 |
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| pas-ha | Xacs, first of all do not try HARestarter however nice that name sounds ;) | 15:08 |
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| Xacs | pas-ha: Yes, I think it was deprecated. | 15:08 |
| therve | Xacs, http://blog.russellbryant.net/2014/10/15/openstack-instance-ha-proposal/ is interesting | 15:09 |
| Xacs | therve: Just checking | 15:10 |
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| pm90_ | vijendar: do you know how db migrations are done in fusion? | 15:26 |
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| pm90_ | oops, wrong channel :) | 15:26 |
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| Xacs | therve: Thanks, It was very useful article. I think the most straightforward instance HA method in openstack, is what explained in this article in detail(It also outlined in my post at ask.openstack.org). | 15:34 |
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