Tuesday, 2015-02-17

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stevebakerlipinski: isn't block_device_mapping only for boot-from-volume?00:34
lipinskistevebaker: I'm not sure to be honest.00:35
lipinskiWe used to use both - block_device_mapping and a VolumeAttachment.  Things worked fine, but then some users took our templates to Juno and said they didn't work because of this.00:36
lipinskiNow, with trying to boot from volume, there is block_device_mapping_v2 - which is undocumented as far as I can tell.  So, now I'm really confused.00:36
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stevebakerlipinski: there has been no python-novaclient release yet which includes block_device_mapping_v200:43
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lipinskiok, then I guess I'm confused.  Christoph mentioned that it worked in IceHouse in bug 135862400:49
openstackbug 1358624 in heat "Config Drive not created when boot from volume" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1358624 - Assigned to Deliang Fan (vanderliang)00:49
lipinskiBecause of that comment, my management has asked us to hand-patch our IceHouse environment to make it so we can boot VMs from a cinder volume with Heat.00:49
lipinskiBut, that leads me down the rabbit hole of bdm vs bdm_v2 vs VolumeAttachment, and trying to get that to work.00:49
lipinskiI guess since the patch is not yet approved, I'll have to push back to mgmt.  I'm somewhat stuck here without a solution for booting a VM from a Cinder Volume in Heat on IceHouse.00:50
stevebakerlipinski: can you do it from nova? If you can't then heat is not the problem. If you can then you could debug the nova call and figure out why the heat one is different00:58
stevebakerblock_device_mapping_v2 is so new it must be not related to your icehouse situation00:59
lipinskiMy problem is bug 135862401:00
openstackbug 1358624 in heat "Config Drive not created when boot from volume" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1358624 - Assigned to Deliang Fan (vanderliang)01:00
lipinskiThe title is misleading01:00
lipinskiI Want to create a Cinder volume based on an image.  And, create a VM which uses that Volume.01:00
lipinskiCreating the volume is no problem.  It is that it won't attach to the VM.01:01
lipinskiFrom what I can tell, the problem is Heat not sending the dest=volume option to nova01:01
lipinskibased on comments in the bug01:01
stevebakerhmm, maybe a python-novaclient release isn't needed01:02
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lipinskiNot sure.  Deliang's comments and code change are over my head.  I didn't understand the whole v2 thing.01:02
stevebakerlipinski: so does setting dest=volume require block_device_mapping_v2?01:03
lipinskiI think that's what others are claiming causes Heat to set the dest=volume in the nova call01:03
lipinskiI can get it to partially work with the Heat server.py patch.  no change to nova.01:04
lipinskiMy problem then comes in that I have two volumes I want to attach - one boot, and a second (data) volume.01:04
lipinskiI have some VMs that boot from volume, some do not.01:04
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lipinskiSo, now I'm down the path of using bdm for attaching a second disk to some, using bdm_v2 for ones that boot from volume, not knowing if I need VolumeAttachment resources, etc.01:05
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lipinskiI have 3 possibilities to support: a VM with volume attached as vdb for data disk; a VM with a volume attached as vda for boot disk; or a VM with both a volume attached as vda for boot and another as vdb for data01:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-specs: Convergence Database schema changes  https://review.openstack.org/15230201:27
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stevebakerlipinski: well, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153454/ is in review, so once it has landed we can decide what to do. Possibly backport to stable/juno and you'll need to carry the patch to icehouse02:46
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cmystermorning03:58
sdake_hey cmyster04:01
cmysterheya sdake_ funny seeing you about at these hours ?04:01
sdake_9pm?04:02
sdake_not all that late04:02
cmysteroh I though you were at some American time...04:02
sdake_arizona ;-)04:02
cmysterthats 9pm...04:03
sdake_but ya, east coast is midnight04:03
cmysterI need WAYYYY more coffee04:03
cmysterits 6am here04:03
sdake_early04:03
sdake_I am usally rolling by 7am04:03
cmysterja, but when I leave at 3pm to pick up my kid no one can ask me to log back in asap04:04
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asalkeld_brb, picking kids up04:30
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/heat: Remove extra space in docstring  https://review.openstack.org/15646805:40
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openstackgerritAnant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Add extra data to Stack table for Convergence.  https://review.openstack.org/15521105:55
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/15647406:03
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openstackgerritAnant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Add extra data to Stack table for Convergence.  https://review.openstack.org/15521106:22
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openstackgerritAnant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Add extra data to Stack table for Convergence.  https://review.openstack.org/15521107:39
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add functional test for AWS loadbalancer  https://review.openstack.org/15319207:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-specs: "repeat" function for HOT templates  https://review.openstack.org/14084908:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Rackspace:LoadBalancer add address in virtualIps  https://review.openstack.org/15456208:47
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pas-hamorning all08:59
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shardymorning all09:04
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Move logging to use oslo_log library  https://review.openstack.org/15632309:24
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Sync oslo-incubator and remove log module  https://review.openstack.org/15632409:24
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openstackgerritAnant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Add extra data to Stack table for Convergence.  https://review.openstack.org/15521109:39
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anantaGood morning/afternoon/evening all09:44
anantaneed some help for a patch I am working on09:44
anantahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/155211/5/heat/db/sqlalchemy/api.py09:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/15647410:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Remove extra space in docstring  https://review.openstack.org/15646810:57
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asalkeldheat.tests.db.test_migrations.TestHeatMigrationsSQLite.test_walk_versions                            12.94811:13
asalkeldslow test!11:14
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Use stack.validate() not stack.create() for limit tests  https://review.openstack.org/15523711:16
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move nested stack delete test to functional  https://review.openstack.org/15523811:16
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Don't pass the parent_resource object into Stack()  https://review.openstack.org/15654611:16
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Remove the template mapping from the env before creating child stacks  https://review.openstack.org/15654711:16
asalkeldshardy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156324/311:20
asalkeldwhat if an external plugin uses log from heat?11:20
skraynevasalkeld: Imo it's expected, because it uses postgress , mysql, sqlite and use snake algorithm...11:21
shardyasalkeld: Hmm, I'm not sure, it's the same problem for all oslo graduations isn't it?11:21
shardyover time we've been removing a bunch of stuff from heat/openstack/common where incubator has removed it11:21
asalkeldmaybe your normal empty module that import the right thing?11:22
skraynevasalkeld: I don't see any way how to make it faster except combine some migrations :)11:22
shardyBut then we'll pollute heat/openstack/common with stuff that doesn't exist in incubator?11:22
asalkeldthat should have been done in oslo-incubator11:22
asalkeldshrug, no one seemed to care there11:22
asalkeldwe need a plugin from last release11:23
asalkeldthat runs in the gate11:23
shardyI added a shim in incubator for stuff which affects operators (request_id which was referenced in the pasted config), but I don't know if we can really avoid this for plugins11:24
shardyThe oslo graduation strategy hasn't been handled well IMO, they should've added deprecation warnings to incubator then ensured things were synced11:24
asalkeldskraynev: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152303/11:24
asalkeldcan you review this (you have to implment it:-O)11:25
shardyin most cases, AFAICT that didn't happen, or at least not over a reasonable time11:25
skraynevasalkeld: yeah I know, laso I work on some changes in merged spec :)11:25
skraynevasalkeld: this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152302/5/specs/kilo/convergence-resource-table.rst11:26
shardyasalkeld: Yeah, ideally all that stuff could be handled via grenade, but getting even basic integration with that has proven impossible11:26
shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/86978/11:26
asalkeldyeah, always more to do11:26
shardyAfter nearly a year of trying, sdague wants us to wait until L :\11:26
skraynevasalked: anyway will take a look after later launch  ;)11:26
skraynevshardy: don't remind me about it...11:27
skraynevshardy: I told with him yesterday.11:27
skraynevshardy: one good news, that he promised to use our grenade job for demonstrating new approach.11:28
shardyskraynev: Ah, well that's something I suppose11:28
skraynevI hope it not so bad replacement, but yes... we will not get grenade in K :(11:28
shardystill frustrating though, it's proven a very difficult process to participate in11:29
asalkeldL should be Late :-O11:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Move logging to use oslo_log library  https://review.openstack.org/15632311:47
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skraynevasalkeld: we could cancel merge for removing log module... if you really think that it's bad practice.11:54
asalkeldskraynev: i think it ok11:55
skraynevok. let's wait a merge ;)11:55
skraynevor I wrong interpreted your ok ? :) and we should cancel it.11:56
asalkeldlet it merge11:56
skraynevfuh. glad to hear it11:57
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asalkeldg'night12:09
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openstackgerritDrago proposed openstack/heat: Fix Keystoneclient V2 wrapper for multi-region  https://review.openstack.org/15579815:07
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alextricitystevebaker: Am now15:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Sync oslo-incubator and remove log module  https://review.openstack.org/15632415:43
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add extra columns for resource table  https://review.openstack.org/15669318:12
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add image_id property to node group template  https://review.openstack.org/13998918:26
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add sahara image constraint  https://review.openstack.org/15007618:26
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add functional test for AWS loadbalancer  https://review.openstack.org/15319218:40
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alextricityIs there any way to not rebuild a server on a stack update?18:48
shardyalextricity: It depends which properties you're changing:18:49
shardyhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Nova::Server18:49
shardySee "Can be updated without replacement." vs "Updates cause replacement."18:50
alextricityI'm not changing any of the properties, yet my server still rebuilds :(18:50
shardyalextricity: Is the server inside a ResourceGroup?18:50
alextricityshardy: No....hmm..maybe i'm doing something wrong18:51
shardyalextricity: If you don't update the template, Heat shouldn't do anything at all18:51
alextricityWhen asked for parameters on a stack-update, I can just input the same ones I did on creation right18:51
randallburtalextricity:  yep18:51
shardyalextricity: Yes18:51
alextricityHow about software configs/deployment? Would an update on a software deployment cause the server to rebuild at all?18:52
shardyIt shouldn't do, no18:53
alextricityinteresting...okay. For some reason my server loses networking after an update -- and that's without changing it's properties18:54
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alextricityWould personality files cause it to rebuild? It's a static personality file, but I see in the docs that updates cause replacement. Does it just assume to replace it on a stack-update?19:08
alextricityor would only a personality file that has changed replace the old one?19:08
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat-specs: Update stack-tags spec to reflect recent changes  https://review.openstack.org/15506919:20
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stevebakeralextricity: hi20:00
alextricitystevebaker: howdy20:00
alextricitystevebaker: you pinged earlier?20:01
stevebakerwere you having deployment in_progress issues?20:02
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alextricityYeah, I managed to get around it, but the problem is still there. For some reason running a script to install an app from source causes the software deployment resource to hang20:02
alextricityfor now i've set the signal transport method to NO_SIGNAL20:03
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alextricityAll the script does is install an app from source...you know..the typically 'configure make make install20:03
stevebakeralextricity: this answer has debugging tips for signalling issues. https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/42657/how-to-debug-scripts-at-heats-softwareconfig-resource/?answer=55048#post-id-5504820:03
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alextricityAh yes :) I remember spending an evening in front of that page. The Signal goes through just fine on a dummy script like "echo 'foo'", it's only whey I run the 'configure make make install' script when it hangs20:05
alextricitybut oh well. it's probably something in the scripts20:05
alextricitythe make scripts that is20:06
stevebakeryes, sudo os-collect-config --force --one-time --debug should show you.20:06
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openstackgerritMiguel Grinberg proposed openstack/heat: "repeat" function for HOT templates  https://review.openstack.org/15674420:14
alextricity^^ Nice patch set20:19
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/15674920:23
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add stack_tag table and remove stack.tags column  https://review.openstack.org/15549620:29
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randallburtwow, I'm having miguelgrinberg propose all my specs from now on.20:38
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add image_id property to node group template  https://review.openstack.org/13998920:52
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add sahara image constraint  https://review.openstack.org/15007620:52
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add functional test for AWS loadbalancer  https://review.openstack.org/15319220:55
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add functional test for AWS loadbalancer  https://review.openstack.org/15319220:56
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asalkeld #info we will be freezing stable/icehouse on Thu Feb 19 for the 2014.1.4 release21:03
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asalkeldfrom cross project meeting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150653/3/specs/testing-guidelines.rst21:21
alextricityTurns out that the reason my server was losing networking after a stack-update is because of the implicit REPLACE_ALWAYS on my port resource.21:21
alextricityChanged it to AUTO and all is well21:21
asalkeldanyone interested in functional testing can review that ^21:21
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stevebakerasalkeld: looks good21:27
asalkeldalso if someone wants to sign up for to be a mentor: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GSoC201521:28
asalkeldstevebaker: thanks21:28
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asalkeld3 days left ^21:28
stevebakerasalkeld: I wonder if the lack of .au/.nz elegibility for GSoC applies only to students, or mentors too21:28
* asalkeld is not sure21:29
asalkeldstevebaker: i see quite a few students from india21:29
asalkeldtz is ok with india21:30
stevebakerwrong kind of heat https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/challenges-and-advantages-of-a-highly-distributed-cloud-that-also-heats-homes21:32
asalkeldo, yeah saw that last time21:33
asalkeldinsteresting21:33
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Deployment signal_transport: TEMP_URL_SIGNAL  https://review.openstack.org/15152621:33
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Integration test for software-config tools  https://review.openstack.org/11371121:33
asalkeldusing server "heat" to  warm homes21:33
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat-templates: heat-config-notify support deploy_signal_verb  https://review.openstack.org/15680522:32
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openstackgerritWinnie Tsang proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Reuse existing registry and/or existing template  https://review.openstack.org/15469223:07
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asalkelddang openstack summit ~= docker summit (going by the number of talks)23:07
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asalkeldhttps://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/stack-open-physical-infrastructure-you-can-take-with-you23:14
asalkeldi need one of those ^23:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/15674923:59

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