Thursday, 2015-04-16

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sdakestevebaker around got a neutron q for you :)01:06
stevebakersdake: shoot01:07
sdakefor a kolla demo i want to show neutron + heat - my template is01:08
sdakehttp://ur1.ca/k6n8o -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/211489/1429146401:08
sdakei want to show that the thing actually handles load, so I use a resource group01:08
sdakehttp://ur1.ca/k6n8v -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/211490/4291465501:09
sdakemy error01:09
sdakesyntax wrong in template?01:09
sdakenothing in logs btw01:11
stevebakersdake: resource_dev can only contain a single resource. You need to write another template (steak.yaml) containing those 3 resources, then reference it with resource_def: {type: steak.yaml}01:16
sdakecool i'll try that01:16
sdakehow do I pass the parameters?01:17
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stevebakersdake: resource properties map to parameters.01:18
stevebakersdake: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/composition.html01:19
sdakethanks01:20
sdakedocs have improved I see :)01:20
stevebakersdake: also try to avoid using port resources, use network name rather than network id, then do this https://github.com/steveb/tripleo-scripts/blob/master/undercloud/undercloud_rhel.yaml#L8401:20
sdakewhy avoid port resources?01:21
stevebakerthe nova/neutron interaction makes it very difficult to model the port lifecycle as a standard heat resource01:26
stevebakerwhich causes issues during stack update01:27
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sdakealso ironic doesnt support ports :(01:34
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sdakestevebaker this is caused by bad syntax?01:45
sdakehttp://ur1.ca/k6ner -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/211500/9148703101:45
stevebakersdake: most likely01:46
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sdakeholy batman it worked01:48
sdakethanks stevebaker ++01:49
stevebakernp01:50
openstackgerritLiangChen proposed openstack/heat: Docker plugin add cpu set property  https://review.openstack.org/17365201:59
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ramishragood morning!02:02
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elynnmorning02:27
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sdake__stevebaker have you seen anything like this http://paste.fedoraproject.org/211511/5265614203:02
sdake__(juno)03:02
sdake__note the nova instances do get private ip addresses assigned03:04
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stevebakersdake__: that looks like the output from nova help03:28
sdake__grumble03:28
sdake__sec03:28
sdake__stevebaker http://ur1.ca/k6nvi -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/211516/1549491403:29
stevebakersdake__: that looks like lots of running vms03:30
sdake__yes but the network output isn't showing on 9 of them03:30
sdake__the odd part is the nova vms actually do get ip addresses03:31
stevebakeris this with explicit port resources?03:31
sdake__yes03:32
sdake__quota on them is at 5003:32
stevebakerand the stack is CREATE_COMPLETE?03:33
sdake__yup03:33
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stevebakertry my suggestion to not use ports, just as a matter of interest03:34
sdake__will try but feels like a nova bug of some sort03:35
sdake__also juno03:35
stevebakernova or neutron03:38
sdake__both03:38
sdake__all03:38
sdake__rdo juno03:38
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KanagarajMxuhaiwei: are you here?05:26
xuhaiweihi05:29
KanagarajMxuhaiwei, thanks for reviewing the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173710/05:30
KanagarajMi replied to your comment.05:31
xuhaiweibut I still can't agree with you about deleting the validation before creating the stack object05:31
KanagarajMany reason?05:31
KanagarajMbecause, validation before stack creation, happens at the stack.validate() method.05:31
KanagarajMany of those validation fails, then heat will error out the action being performed05:32
xuhaiweiIf the template contains illegal grammar, the validation will stop it, and do not need to create stack any more05:33
KanagarajMif the complete template validation happens at the earlier stage, i agree, but it happens really in the stack.validate(). which is taking care of other part of template like parameters, etc.05:34
xuhaiweithe validation in _validate_new_stack and stack.validate() are different, right05:39
KanagarajMthese are two different, but both does the template.validate()05:42
xuhaiweiyes, so if self.t.validate() are not used anywhere else, I think it's better to delete it instead of the before one05:43
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KanagarajMxuhaiwei, its not good idea to delete from the stack.validate() as it is impleted to completly validate the stack.05:46
KanagarajMxuhaiwei, implemented*05:46
xuhaiweikanagarajM, yes, the stack.validate() is also used by nested_stack validation, so can't be deleted05:47
xuhaiweiso I am afraid it's not good to delete them both05:48
KanagarajMxuhaiwei: could kindly let me know, why do you afraid of it?05:49
xuhaiweilike I have said, template validation should be done before the stack creation05:50
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KanagarajMxuhaiwei: hmm, ok. let us wait for core's opinion. Again, Thanks for your comments !05:51
xuhaiweiok, it's better to hear other's opinion :)05:52
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shardymorning all07:52
noa-koffmanmorning07:54
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pas-hamorning all08:46
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openstackgerritGary Duan proposed openstack/heat-specs: Support Monasca alarms and notifications  https://review.openstack.org/17426209:00
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat-specs: Cinder volume encryption support  https://review.openstack.org/16867509:18
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat-specs: Designate resource plug-ins  https://review.openstack.org/17427509:32
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openstackgerritGary Duan proposed openstack/heat-specs: Support Monasca alarms and notifications  https://review.openstack.org/17426209:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Clarify `attributes` support status for AutoScalingGroup  https://review.openstack.org/17371210:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Start use error_exit function in AWS LB  https://review.openstack.org/17322410:32
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat-specs: Cinder volume encryption support  https://review.openstack.org/16867511:20
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openstackgerritLimor Stotland proposed openstack/heat: Add restriction on the physical resource name length  https://review.openstack.org/17430911:34
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat-specs: Cinder volume encryption support  https://review.openstack.org/16867511:44
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat-specs: Keystone Resource plugin for Region, Service and Endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/16866012:49
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openstackgerritRakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Removes deprecated metadata property from Resource class.  https://review.openstack.org/17436012:52
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openstackgerritLimor Stotland proposed openstack/heat: Add restriction on the physical resource name length  https://review.openstack.org/17430913:15
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skraynevshardy: around?13:31
shardyskraynev: hi13:33
skraynevshardy: hi. I wanted to ask additional opinion about couple of our resources13:35
skraynevshardy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153192/ test fails due to metering service is disable13:35
skraynevI suppose it's related with stevebaker's patch in infra13:36
skraynevbut the main question I was surprised, that autoscalinggroup requires metering service13:36
skraynevsame for instance group13:36
skraynevis it ok?13:36
skraynevnote, that I do not use any "real" metering resources in template13:37
skraynevI suppose, that it happens due to https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/heat/instance_group.py#L22113:38
shardyskraynev: it's the loadbalancer which requires it, it creates an alarm:13:38
shardyhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/aws/lb/loadbalancer.py#L4513:38
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skraynevshardy: doh.13:39
skraynevthx13:39
skraynevI thought, that it's just wait_condition + instance13:40
skraynevmissed first part13:40
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skraynevanyway, it's bad surprise for my test :)13:40
skraynevneed to add patch for infra ;)13:41
shardyskraynev: you have the option of overriding AWS::CloudWatch::Alarm to use OS::Heat::CWLiteAlarm in the environment for the test13:42
shardybut IMO it'd be better to get ceilometer available, given that it's the default implementation now13:42
shardyhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/etc/heat/environment.d/default.yaml#L613:42
shardyand, that we'd like to remove the heat alarm logic soon13:42
skraynevshardy: yeah, also as I remember old implementation was deprecated13:42
skraynevshardy: yes;) I choose long but correct way :) thx for help13:43
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add scenario test for AWS loadbalancer  https://review.openstack.org/15319213:55
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sdake_shardy morning around?14:10
shardysdake_: hi14:10
sdake_hey got a quck resource group + nova + neutron mashup question? :)14:10
sdake_got time that is14:11
shardysure, although I don't know much about neutron tbh14:11
sdake_ack14:11
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sdake_I launch a resource group with count: 3014:11
sdake_I get the follwoing out of nova list14:11
sdake_http://paste.fedoraproject.org/211516/15494914/14:11
sdake_the nova vms that *dont* have networks shown do get a dhcp address assigned to the vm14:12
sdake_and are able to access the metadata server14:12
sdake_known bug, or new bug?14:12
sdake_(Juno version and unfortunately I cannot easily change it)14:12
sdake_if bug fix I'd like to cherrypick14:12
sdake_using latest rdo juno release as of 2-3 days ago14:13
sdake_horizontal, vertical.14:13
sdake_make a mistake - horizontal.14:13
sdake_stay stand and you win.14:13
shardysdake_: Hmm, I've not seen that issue tbh14:16
shardyare you sure it's a heat issue, not a nova/neutron one?14:16
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add additional validation for fip properties  https://review.openstack.org/17440214:16
sdake_shardy I'm pretty sure its not a heat issue14:16
sdake_I just thought ii'd ask if you seen it before14:17
sdake_since you wrote resource group14:17
shardysdake_: Yeah, sorry but nothing springs to mind14:17
sdake_and the way I'm using it is a common pattern14:17
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sdake_(create vm, creating port, create float) x nodecount14:17
shardyactually randallburt wrote it IIRC, but I hacked on it a bit too14:17
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sdake_oh well its pretty sweet didn't know randallburt did that :)14:18
ramishrashardy: Hi14:26
shardyramishra: hi!14:26
ramishrashardy: do you've sometime to review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164572/?  I've moved the atomic hook to this patch.14:27
ramishrashardy: as it can't be used with dib.14:27
ramishrashardy: till there is a packaging of the atomic tool14:28
shardyramishra: will do14:28
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ramishrashardy: thanks..just thought of reminding you to put it in your list:)14:29
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openstackgerritLimor Stotland proposed openstack/heat: Add restriction on the physical resource name length  https://review.openstack.org/17430914:51
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add ability to filter stacks by tag  https://review.openstack.org/16053715:06
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openstackgerritnoa proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec for Add lock and unlock stack actions.  https://review.openstack.org/17178115:31
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add --nested-depth option to event-list  https://review.openstack.org/17396815:49
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openstackgerritnoa proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec for Add lock and unlock stack actions.  https://review.openstack.org/17178115:52
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openstackgerritnoa proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec for Add lock and unlock stack actions.  https://review.openstack.org/17178115:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Add support for the httpsRedirect property  https://review.openstack.org/17314616:39
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add --nested-depth option to event-list  https://review.openstack.org/17396817:02
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openstackgerritTetiana Lashchova proposed openstack/heat: Implement OS::Manila::SecurityService resource type  https://review.openstack.org/17447517:20
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add ability to filter stacks by tag  https://review.openstack.org/16053718:00
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Uncap library requirements for liberty  https://review.openstack.org/17453218:13
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ashishjainHello19:37
ashishjainSomeone please suggest if I can use heat to autoscale docker containers19:37
ashishjainNowhere on the internet I see any information on that.19:37
ashishjainhello anyone19:40
zbitterashishjain: I suggest that you can19:41
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ashishjainzaneb: Hi19:42
zanebo/19:43
ashishjainzaneb:what is your suggestion?19:43
zanebthere is a docker container resource in /contrib (although it has many, many caveats)19:44
ashishjainYa I have installed that too19:44
zanebOS::Heat::AutoscalingGroup can scale any type of resource that Heat supports19:44
zanebso you should be able to use that to scale Docker containers19:45
ashishjainI agree with you19:45
stevebakerashishjain: although there is no scheduler for containers that heat can use yet, so placement on servers is manual, or your scaling on units of servers.19:45
ashishjainBut as I understand ceilometer has to trigger alarms19:46
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been restarted to clear a problem with its event stream. any gerrit changes updated or approved between 19:14 and 19:46 utc will need to be rechecked or have their approval reapplied for zuul to pick them up19:46
ashishjainBut somehow as soon as I switch from libvirt to docker driver I do not see ceilo emitting any stats19:46
zanebashishjain: alarm trigger is just a webhook, it can come from ceilometer or anywhere else19:46
stevebakerashishjain: The Magnum project will allow heat to scale containers without having to consider where they are placed19:46
zanebashishjain: do you mean you're using a Docker backend to Nova rather than the Docker resource type in Heat?19:47
ashishjainstevebaker: I am deploying docker just like another Nova::Server resource19:48
ashishjainAlthough I have installed the docker plugin avaiilable in heat/contrib19:49
ashishjainbut I am yet to use it19:49
ashishjainHere is how my yaml file looks like19:49
ashishjainZaneb: yes you are correct19:49
stevebakerashishjain: with the nova docker driver? then nova-scheduler handles your placement, so its all good19:49
zanebstevebaker: he's all good except for ceilometer not reporting stats for him19:50
ashishjainstevebaker: yes correct instances are coming up, scaling policies are being create, all th resource are up and fine19:51
ashishjainbut as zaneb pointed out ceilometer somehow is not sending any data19:51
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ashishjain group:19:52
ashishjain    type: OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup19:52
zanebceilometer has an agent on the compute host that collects data about VMs19:52
ashishjain    properties:19:52
ashishjain      cooldown: 6019:52
ashishjain      desired_capacity: 219:52
ashishjain      max_size: 419:52
ashishjain      min_size: 119:52
ashishjain      resource:19:52
ashishjain        type: OS::Nova::Server::Docker19:52
ashishjainzaneb: that is running fine ceilometer-compute-agent19:52
zanebbut you're not launching VMs, there's no agent to push the data you want into ceilometer19:52
zanebyou'll probably need to write your own agent19:53
ashishjainhere is my simple docker.yaml19:53
ashishjainheat_template_version: 2014-10-1619:53
ashishjaindescription: A simple server.19:53
ashishjainresources:19:53
ashishjain  server:19:53
ashishjain    type: OS::Nova::Server19:53
ashishjain    properties:19:53
ashishjain      flavor: m1.nano19:53
ashishjain      networks:19:53
ashishjain        - network: demo-net19:53
ashishjain      key_name: demo-key19:53
ashishjain      image: httpd19:53
ashishjainisnt this configuration a VM config?19:53
stevebakerashishjain: next time you paste you should use paste.openstack.org19:54
ashishjainstevebaker: my apologies19:55
stevebakernp19:55
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ashishjainI just got some inputs from gordc https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/tree/master/ceilometer/compute/virt19:55
zanebashishjain: I guess it depends on how Nova is configured and what driver it's using19:55
ashishjainLooks like ceilo is not hypervisor agnostic19:56
stevebakerashishjain: what metric is triggering your alarm? Chances are the nova-docker driver isn't generating those metrics19:56
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ashishjainstevebaker: cpu_util19:56
zanebashishjain: how could it possibly *be* agnostic?19:57
stevebakerashishjain: you should ask the nova-docker folk if they support that, or look at the source19:57
ashishjainstevebaker: Pinged them too.just waiting for there response19:58
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ashishjainzaneb: I thought it would be, my bad19:59
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ashishjainzaneb,stevebaker: If I use the Heat docker resource will it be possible to make autoscaling work20:07
zanebsort of20:08
zanebyou can use that resource to run containers on a server (VM) you've allocated with Nova20:08
zaneband use the metrics from that to drive your autoscaling20:08
stevebakerashishjain: you might be better off sticking with the nova-docker driver, but triggering your own custom metrics from inside your containers20:09
stevebakerashishjain: using cfn-push-stats20:09
zanebalthough I think you'll probably still want to put your own ceilometer agent on there20:09
zanebashishjain: yeah, I agree with stevebaker20:09
zanebthe nova-docker driver is a better way20:09
zaneband you'll end up probably needing to do your own cfn-push-stats thing to ceilometer either way20:10
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ashishjainzaneb,stevebaker: thanks guys I think I got good amount of pointers, I will start exploring each one of them20:11
ashishjainbut isnt cfn amazon specific , will that work with openstack20:13
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jasonddoes anybody know why the db migration script tests run the migrations multiple times?  that's not something i'd expect to happen when the actual db is being migrated20:24
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Don't re-bind environment for get_file during stack update  https://review.openstack.org/17461121:20
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sdake_stevebaker you around?23:55
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