Thursday, 2015-04-30

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zanebstevebaker: looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1446575 ... is AUTO the correct replacement policy on the port here? I think it probably is, just want to double-check00:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1446575 in heat "Invalid Templete Reference when delete failed stack" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kairat Kushaev (kkushaev)00:12
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stevebakerzaneb: AUTO is correct, and now the default in Kilo00:15
zanebkk00:15
zanebcan't make head or tail of this patch at the moment00:16
zanebI'm pretty sure the issue is not fixable without convergence00:16
asalkeldzaneb: can you also have a look at the release notes00:18
asalkeldgood to have a review of it00:18
zanebgot the link there?00:18
asalkeldhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Kilo#OpenStack_Orchestration_.28Heat.2900:18
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asalkeldone or two not complete00:18
zanebthanks00:18
zanebtbh I haven't actually done anything during Kilo, so I am the worst person to ask about release notes00:19
asalkeldnote: in deprecated: The CloudWatch API (heat-api-cw)00:19
zaneboh hey, we got the keystone resources in? awesome.00:20
asalkeldwell technically the mistral ones came later00:21
asalkeldi should remove them00:21
asalkeldlet me check00:21
asalkeldhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/tree/stable/kilo/contrib00:22
asalkeldcool they are there00:22
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asalkeldwtf still not approved: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131602/00:34
asalkeldstevebaker: ^00:34
asalkeldis the implementation done but the spec not approved!00:34
stevebakerI'll make sure the spec reflects what was implemented and just approve it00:35
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asalkeld+100:36
asalkeld'cos that looks weird00:36
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asalkeldstevebaker: need info from you re: "Triggering new software deployments from heatclient" in the release note please00:37
stevebaker asalkeld sure00:38
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat-specs: Trigger an action in a software-config component  https://review.openstack.org/13067901:18
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asalkeldstevebaker: you want me to approve it? so you don't have to self appove?01:20
asalkeldnot that it really matters01:20
stevebakerasalkeld: if you don't mind01:23
asalkelddone01:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-specs: Trigger an action in a software-config component  https://review.openstack.org/13067901:27
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ramishrastevebaker: Hi01:47
stevebakerramishra: hi01:48
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat-specs: Signaling SoftwareDeployment resources via Swift  https://review.openstack.org/13160201:48
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stevebakerasalkeld: another one 601:48
stevebakerasalkeld: another one ^01:48
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ramishrastevebaker: Did you by chance see my mail to the list on kuebernetes and autoscaling? Not sure if all of it make sense though. Would like to know your thoughts on it.01:50
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stevebakerramishra: yes, I've been too much on other things to give it proper thought though01:50
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ramishrastevebaker: np.. let me know what you think when you get to it.. probably we can discuss during the summit.01:52
stevebakerramishra: I have been thinking that we could start by going lower-level than kubernetes for a start, and just consider etcd clusters01:52
asalkeldstevebaker: will do01:52
ramishrastevebaker: thanks01:53
stevebakerramishra: so there needs to be a way for heat to tell etcd that a node has been added. A common technique is for etcd to use a public (internet!) API to discover new nodes, but it would be preferable to avoid that01:54
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ramishrastevebaker: yeah.. the discovery url.. you mean right?01:55
stevebakerramishra: https://coreos.com/docs/cluster-management/setup/cluster-discovery/01:55
stevebakerramishra: yeah, https://discovery.etcd.io/01:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-specs: Signaling SoftwareDeployment resources via Swift  https://review.openstack.org/13160201:56
ramishrastevebaker: If I am not wrong we can use any private url too01:57
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Add basic Ceilometer alarm test  https://review.openstack.org/17803601:57
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Use $DEST consistently in the post_test_hook.sh  https://review.openstack.org/17845401:57
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stevebakerramishra: something would need to populate that url though02:04
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ramishrastevebaker: any self-hosted discovery service,  probably we can also use the one provided by consule https://www.consul.io/02:07
ramishrastevebaker: though I've not tried consul with etcd yet02:07
stevebakerramishra: there might be something helpful here https://github.com/coreos/etcd/blob/master/Documentation/clustering.md02:12
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ramishrastevebaker: sure. the custom discovery service expects an existing etcd cluster.  We need one to start creating a cluster..I'll dig a little on this and we can further discuss.02:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Support to generate hot template based on resource type  https://review.openstack.org/17324702:19
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ramishraasalkeld: Hi02:21
asalkeldhi02:21
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ramishraasalkeld: review request https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177148/ :) of course, when you have time.02:22
asalkeldsure02:23
ramishraasalkeld: thanks02:24
asalkeldlooking at it now02:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Fix snapshot image/backup residue in backend  https://review.openstack.org/17766602:24
asalkeldso ramishra you adding this so aws policy?02:25
asalkeldis that a valid aws api?02:25
asalkeldor should this be a os::heat::policy only change?02:25
ramishraasalkeld: yes02:26
asalkeldyes to which one02:26
ramishraasalkeld: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSCloudFormation/latest/UserGuide/aws-properties-as-policy.html#cfn-as-scalingpolicy-minadjustmentstep02:26
asalkeldok , i just found it02:27
asalkeldthanks02:27
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asalkeldramishra: min thing02:36
asalkeldminor02:36
ramishraasalkeld: sure, will do that02:38
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add min_adjustment_step property to ScalingPolicy  https://review.openstack.org/17714802:56
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ramishraasalkeld: done ^02:56
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asalkeldramishra: +203:02
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ramishraasalkeld: thanks03:13
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Qiming_ramishra, -1, no thanks, ;)03:25
asalkeldhttp://logs.openstack.org/45/173045/7/check/check-heat-dsvm-functional-mysql/3431242/console.html03:26
asalkeldthat's an odd bug03:26
Qiming_port '4ae' ?03:27
stevebakerasalkeld: is that another one caused by selecting the ipv6 subnet?03:27
asalkeldlooks like it03:27
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asalkeldbug 145029303:38
openstackbug 1450293 in heat "test_neutron_loadbalancer is failing with "httplib.InvalidURL: nonnumeric port: '4ae'"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145029303:38
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ramishraasalkeld: all issues in integration tests are due to https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/6d45e29bbb97ad338b413ec31b635c3c4364df8704:02
asalkeldgroan04:03
ramishraasalkeld: I had a patch to change that for our tests for the time being. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178630/  should we push that till we fix all issues04:03
asalkeldmmm, sed'ing the neutron file :-O04:04
ramishratemporary.. else, we can fix the issues as and when we see them:)04:05
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sirushtiasalkeld, Hi, around? had some queries about https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/143871705:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1438717 in heat "Failing Heat functional test test_group_suspend_resume" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Angus Salkeld (asalkeld)05:36
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Use ipv4 address for connectivity in lb integration test  https://review.openstack.org/17893305:48
asalkeldhi sirushti05:52
sirushtiasalkeld, so was there a reason for the fix using the helper functions stack_suspend and stack_resume?05:54
sirushtiSince the bug seems like the stack_lock is being released too late05:56
sirushtiok, this bug may set better context -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/145031405:56
openstackLaunchpad bug 1450314 in heat "*_COMPLETE/FAILED status is set too early" [Undecided,New]05:56
asalkeldsirushti: there was a timing issuse05:56
asalkeldit seems that we were waiting for all the resources but not the stack state05:57
asalkeldand there is a slight time gap that was causing issues05:57
sirushtiasalkeld, I'm not sure, why should we wait for all the resources to complete when that is what the status of the stack is supposed to tell us?05:58
asalkeldsirushti: ooo, that's a great point05:58
asalkeldi think there is a related, but slightly different bug, looking for a link05:59
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asalkeldhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/143334005:59
openstackLaunchpad bug 1433340 in heat "stack actions do not guarantee that the stack will be placed into IN_PROGRESS by the time they return" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Sirushti Murugesan (sirushtim)05:59
asalkeldboth your bug and mine make it difficult for a user to reliably use heat06:00
asalkeld(or at least trust the stack state)06:00
zzxwillDose Icehouse support nested stack for resource type 'OS::Heat::ResourceGroup'?   We came across an error - heatclient.exc.HTTPBadRequest: ERROR: HT-64408AE Message objects do not support str() because they may contain non-ascii characters. Please use unicode() or translate() instead.06:00
sirushtiasalkeld, agreed, so anyway Convergence does not use stacklock's at all, so that's okay. Until then, we'd need a workaround or atleast send a callback I suppose to set the state when the stack lock is released.06:01
asalkeldsirushti: could we set the state after the unlock?06:02
asalkeld(just after)06:02
asalkeldzzxwill: that simply looks like a bug06:02
asalkeldzzxwill: what does "heat resource-type-list" say?06:03
asalkelddoes it include that resource type?06:03
sirushtiasalkeld, not sure though, we've coupled stacklock with threadgroupmanager in engine/service.py06:03
asalkeldwell then the best we can do is delay it to the very last06:04
sirushtiyeah, seems like it.06:10
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Move SessionClient from HTTPClient to adapter  https://review.openstack.org/16348406:14
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Delete redundant resource.id checking  https://review.openstack.org/17856206:47
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Do constraint validation for None value property  https://review.openstack.org/17472806:47
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add min_adjustment_step property to ScalingPolicy  https://review.openstack.org/17714807:19
kairat_kushaevzaneb: Hi, do you have time to discuss bug with stack-updates?07:21
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asalkeldkairat_kushaev: i think it's ~3am for him07:23
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kairat_kushaevasalkeld: Ok, thanks07:23
asalkeldskraynev: kairat_kushaev do we have a meeting now?07:34
asalkeld(happy not to)07:34
kairat_kushaevasalkeld: :)07:35
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pas-hamorning all07:45
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openstackgerritKairat Kushaev proposed openstack/heat: Implement create-delete-check for Manila::Share  https://review.openstack.org/17180608:24
openstackgerritKairat Kushaev proposed openstack/heat: Implement update for Manila::Share  https://review.openstack.org/17184508:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Use snapshot's environment when stack restore  https://review.openstack.org/17153308:37
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Enable SecurityGroups property for AWS LB resource  https://review.openstack.org/17331108:43
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add timeout hidden parameter to AWS LB  https://review.openstack.org/17712008:43
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add scenario test for AWS loadbalancer  https://review.openstack.org/15319208:43
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skraynevmorning all08:47
skraynevramishra : around ?08:47
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ramishraskraynev: Hi08:59
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skraynevramishra: hi09:10
skraynevramishra: how about using your previous fix with disabling ipv6 ?09:11
skraynevI suppose we can fast approve it, because there are places with choosing ipv4/ipv6 more then I expected.09:12
ramishraskraynev: I proposed this to asalkeld in the morning too. with the amount of failures, that we are seeing, IMO, that would have been the first step09:13
skraynevI suggest fix them in separate patch, which enable ipv6, it make gates green an we can fix all places with normal speed09:13
ramishraI'm ok with it. though it seems modifying neutron files is something others don't like.09:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Fix TypeError exception during cancel stack update  https://review.openstack.org/17753909:15
ramishraI can restore that patch if there is a n agreement09:15
skraynevramishra: +2 from me.09:16
skraynevshardy, asalkeld: ^09:16
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shardyskraynev: I'm still catching up on latest status - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178933/ is approved, are you and ramishra saying we need additional fixes after that?09:18
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Move usage methods *_request to get/post/etc  https://review.openstack.org/17540309:18
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Move SessionClient from HTTPClient to adapter  https://review.openstack.org/16348409:18
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add tests for SessionClient  https://review.openstack.org/17898509:18
shardyI see the verify failed on that patch09:18
ramishrashardy: hi09:19
shardyif we need to disable ipv6 to stabilize our tests, I'm fine with that09:19
skraynevshardy: I have idea, why it failed, but, if I am wrong it will be cost very match - I mean not green gates again ;)09:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Use $DEST consistently in the post_test_hook.sh  https://review.openstack.org/17845409:20
skraynevshardy: temporary disable09:20
shardyskraynev: Yup, but then we can re-enable without time-pressure :)09:20
ramishrashardy: that patch verify failed due to some internal neutron issue, the issue of connectivity test with ipv6 address is fixed by that patch09:21
skraynevshardy: exactly09:21
shardyramishra: Ok, so we can probably recheck and land that?09:21
shardydo we have a bug for the neutron issue?09:21
skraynevramishra: I suppose, that it's related with https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/neutron/loadbalancer.py#L67809:22
ramishrashardy: yeah, but still there can more issues with dual stack... we're not ready for it;)09:22
skraynevramishra: IMo we should add version check here too ;) https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/clients/os/nova.py#L417-L42009:23
skraynevit should fix your issue with connectivity, I suppose09:23
skraynevramishra: how about follow plan: merge you fix for (which on review), if gates are steel red, disable with your restored patch. and fix it more pedantically ;) ?09:25
ramishraskraynev: I'm fine. I can revive the ipv6 disable patch09:27
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skraynevramishra: http://paste.openstack.org/show/213414/ could you try this in your patch09:54
skraynevin heat/engine/clients/os/nova.py09:54
skraynevThere is my guess about current issue with your patch09:55
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix docs about configuring heat with devstack  https://review.openstack.org/17902210:46
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ramishraskraynev: thanks..sure will try that.. btw, can we also try disabling ipv6. Did we agree on that?11:03
skraynev+111:04
skraynevalso as I understand shardy also agree with making this till we not fix all places ;)11:04
skraynevwith tricky calls11:04
skraynevramishra: ^11:05
ramishraok let me revive that patch.. let's see what jenkins has to say about it.11:06
skraynevramishra: sure11:06
ramishraskraynev: done11:07
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Use ipv4 address for connectivity in lb integration test  https://review.openstack.org/17893311:13
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Replace self.properties.get on self.properties[]  https://review.openstack.org/17903011:29
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QlawyGuys anyone have sth like: UnboundLocalError: local variable 'endpoint' referenced before assignment11:45
QlawyFile "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ceilometerclient/client.py", line 102, in get_client return Client(api_version, endpoint, **cli_kwargs)11:45
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QlawyI happens during creating ceilometer alarm in stack11:45
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pas-haQlawy, do you use latest Heat + latest ceilometerclient?11:51
pas-ha(as of requirements)11:52
Qlawypas-ha: imho yes11:55
Qlawylet me check versions11:55
Qlawyhmm, I will try to use ceilometerclient from git11:56
pas-haI remember the time it was broken and required >1.0.14, but now I see 1.2.0 is out - might be something changed there again11:56
pas-hawill check myself11:57
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Qlawypas-ha: it looked I had 1.0.1012:01
pas-hathat's definitely too old12:01
Qlawypas-ha: but now I have from git12:01
Qlawypas-ha: yeah...agree.. must kick some guys responsible for packing ;)12:02
pas-hajust quickly checked on devstack (heat master, ceilometerclient == 1.2.0), alarms are created, will try now if they really go off :)12:03
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Qlawypas-ha: it failed much later so it was that :)12:04
Qlawypas-ha: thank you! :)12:04
pas-haQlawy, you're welcome :)12:04
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pas-ha...and alarms work (cpuload-based autoscaling happens)12:05
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ramishraskraynev: jenkins +1 for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178630/12:08
ramishraother one too:)12:09
openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed openstack/heat: Move qpid-python to test-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/12077512:11
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ramishrapas-ha: hi.. would you be able to approve this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178933/12:12
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pas-haramishra, don't really like the approach (especially changing the nova client code), since it is only for connectivity check12:14
pas-haand I had a change to that test that omits the connectivity checks at all12:15
pas-ha(I mean it could be done)12:15
pas-habut if that is to unblock the gate, I would ask you to somehow do not modify the client in the engine12:16
ramishrapas-ha: that change is not to pass this test.. but for dual stack change(ipv4+ipv6)12:17
ramishraall code that uses this nova peice of code will fail.12:17
skraynevpas-ha: yeah. last devstack has two subnets ipv6 and ipv412:17
skraynevso all ports currently are created in both subnets12:18
pas-hathat I know, just wondering why modifying the client in the engine?12:18
skraynevbecause loadbalancer use this code for vip12:18
pas-haso, and what if user explicitly wants to create the port on ipv6 net?12:18
pas-hawe basically prohibit it with this client change12:19
skraynevhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/neutron/loadbalancer.py#L677-L67812:19
ramishrapas-ha: IMO, we should check connectivity  to the servers, this issue would not have been identified without the connectivity test.12:20
skraynevoh. see12:20
pas-hawell, my patch was using another type of connectivity check (to actual webapp on the servers behind LB)12:21
pas-habut over HTTP, without SSH12:21
skraynevpas-ha: but, when lb add members it uses code mentioned above12:21
ramishrathis is not ssh12:21
ramishraif I am not wrong this is http too..12:22
pas-haok, lemme check once again12:22
ramishraour code base does not support dual stack yet12:22
ramishrabetter disable it for the time being. my vote for thos12:23
ramishrathis12:23
skraynevyeah, and neutron resources unfortunately to... we can not specify directly for them which version they should use12:23
ramishranova does not support subnets for servers.. there is a bp not yet implemented12:23
pas-haquick thought - return the list of all IP addresses, and plug them all to LB12:24
pas-haas members12:24
pas-hainstead on prohibiting ipv6 loadbalancing in general12:24
skraynev('The list of Nova server IDs load balanced.')12:25
skraynevmembers for Neutron LB12:25
skraynevit's not possible12:25
pas-hanot sure how many places would get affected though by changing the type of returned value in this method12:25
pas-hahttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/neutron/loadbalancer.py#L67812:25
ramishrait's not able to plug the ipv6 address  Unknown host in 'fdd6:7b84:d727:0:f816:3eff:fe2b:fc52:80'12:26
pas-hathere it fetches the address12:26
ramishrahttp://logs.openstack.org/33/178933/1/check/check-heat-dsvm-functional-mysql/aa7b8ac/logs/screen-q-lbaas.txt.gz12:26
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openstackgerritTetiana Lashchova proposed openstack/heat: Remove empty properties from workflow definition  https://review.openstack.org/17904012:27
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ramishraalready approved :)12:30
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pas-haso, as I've quickly checked, the server_to_ipaddress method is used for 1) first_address attr of Nova Server; 2) most of the attrs of AWS Instance, 3) AWS LB; 4) Neutron LB12:31
pas-hawith this change, you will not be able to use first_address if server was created on IPv6 net only :(12:32
skraynevpas-ha: ok, probably here we should be more tricky and do not choose only ipv412:33
pas-habut then, it is kind of not advised to use it anyway (in favour of "networks")12:33
skraynevas solution: to add ip_version property to lb resources and set on gates it equal 412:34
pas-haI'll add these thoughts as comment in a review12:34
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Enable SecurityGroups property for AWS LB resource  https://review.openstack.org/17331113:00
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add timeout hidden parameter to AWS LB  https://review.openstack.org/17712013:01
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add scenario test for AWS loadbalancer  https://review.openstack.org/15319213:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Use ipv4 address for connectivity in lb integration test  https://review.openstack.org/17893313:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Code improvement: avoid reduntant if conditions  https://review.openstack.org/17864413:39
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Prevent false positives of UPDATE_COMPLETE in integration tests  https://review.openstack.org/17304513:45
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openstackgerritRob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Add Magnum client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/17402913:55
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kairat_kushaevHello, has somebody tried to create a stack snapshot and restore the stack in parallel for single heat-engine?14:15
kairat_kushaevI got ActionInProgress exception when I am trying to do the following in several parallel threads: stack-create, stack-snapshot, stack-restore, stack-delete.14:16
shardykairat_kushaev: on the same, or different stacks?14:17
kairat_kushaevshardy: different14:17
kairat_kushaevshardy: Each thread creates a separate stack14:17
shardykairat_kushaev: are you generating different names in each thread?14:18
shardybug #1370185 indicates it's possible via a race to create stacks with the same name14:19
openstackbug 1370185 in heat "Possible to create multiple stacks with the same name" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1370185 - Assigned to Visnusaran Murugan (visnusaran-murugan)14:19
shardysince that's not fixed, weird stuff would happen if you didn't choose unique names14:19
kairat_kushaevshardy: yep14:19
kairat_kushaevkairat_kushaev: I am generating different names. I got an exception when I tried to test heat with rally.14:20
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kairat_kushaevshardy: ^14:20
kairat_kushaevshardy: It seems that need to create an issue for it.14:21
shardykairat_kushaev: sure, feel free, please include the heat-engine logs14:25
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sirushtikairat_kushaev, It's quite possible you're hitting this issue -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1450314, then again your issue may just be different.15:54
openstackLaunchpad bug 1450314 in heat "*_COMPLETE/FAILED status is set too early" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Sirushti Murugesan (sirushtim)15:54
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kairat_kushaevsirushti: Thanks for info. I will try to look into it.15:56
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add hook-poll function to check if a stack has pending hooks  https://review.openstack.org/17396916:26
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openstackgerritTetiana Lashchova proposed openstack/heat: Add unit tests for mistral workflow  https://review.openstack.org/17916216:57
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openstackgerritTetiana Lashchova proposed openstack/heat: Add remaining_executions attribute to OS::Mistral::CronTrigger  https://review.openstack.org/17730817:21
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Make hook type optional for hook-clear  https://review.openstack.org/17919618:21
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Generate stack events for stack state transitions  https://review.openstack.org/17796118:29
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Encrypt properties data  https://review.openstack.org/15138819:08
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Grace1Hello, I have one question about launching windows instance20:53
Grace1if I have multiple powershell scripts which need parameters20:53
Grace1how can I pass parameters to them?20:54
Grace1I checked the samples here : https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/Windows/PuppetAgent/puppet-agent.yaml20:54
Grace1it seems only one powershell script can accept the parameters20:54
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openstackgerritKarolyn Chambers proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec for implementing AZs for scaling groups  https://review.openstack.org/17925021:16
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openstackgerritKarolyn Chambers proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec for implementing AZs for scaling groups  https://review.openstack.org/17925021:42
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openstackgerritSabeen proposed openstack/heat: Add functional tests for stack tags/hidden stacks  https://review.openstack.org/15334321:57
openstackgerritSabeen proposed openstack/heat: Add functional tests for stack tags/hidden stacks  https://review.openstack.org/15334321:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Remove the is_id boolean check for domains  https://review.openstack.org/17801722:16
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openstackgerritRyan Hefner proposed openstack/heat: Add Manila Shares as a Heat resource type  https://review.openstack.org/17927322:21
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asalkeldmorning22:43
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asalkeldhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/releases/tag/2015.1.022:46
asalkeldlooks like we have a release!22:46
asalkeldlooks like zaneb and I lost out again:-(22:51
zanebyeah :/22:52
zanebI'm excited that Flavio was elected though22:52
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asalkeldI think I must just get more involved regardless22:54
asalkeldbit of a pain for me tho', given the horrid meeting times22:54
zanebyeah, that's pretty much what I've been doing22:54
zanebit's actually possible to have a reasonable amount of influence without a vote22:55
asalkeldyeah22:55
zanebI'd love to have time to actually go implement a lot of the ideas I have, but unfortunately... day job22:56
asalkeldin Heat, or more widely?22:57
asalkeldif heat, write up some specs?22:57
zanebmore widely22:57
zanebsee e.g. my message in the Zaqar thread22:58
* asalkeld still not convinced about zaqar tho'22:58
asalkeldtotally love the idea of async messages for users22:58
zanebabout that specific implementation or the need for it in general?22:58
asalkelda bit of both22:59
asalkeldfor the most part we don't need two way comms22:59
asalkeldwe inward api22:59
asalkeldwe don't have an outward one22:59
asalkeld(async messages)22:59
zanebagree, it's mostly cloud->user that we're missing22:59
asalkeldyou have a much simpler system if it is only one way23:00
asalkeldi need time to investigate options really23:00
zanebbut if your can turn that into a bus where the user can connect stuff up cloud->cloud or cloud->user->cloud, that's really really powerful23:00
asalkeldmistral23:01
zanebdid you read my responses to the Call for adoption thread?23:01
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asalkeldi think so, will check again to see if i missed anything23:01
zanebmistral should absolutely be one of the things on that bus23:02
asalkeldwe are lagging, events and actions are the basis of every powerful system23:03
asalkeldit makes things really easy to "program"23:03
asalkeldi'd like to ask the rax guys why they are not using zaqar for their planned user event system23:04
zaneb+100023:04
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asalkeldthey were involved with it early on23:04
asalkeldit would be good to see why they excluded it23:04
asalkeldrandall not about23:05
zanebAIUI they got tired of getting knocked back by the TC who made no apparent effort to even understand what it was :/23:05
asalkeldsure, but they are making something new23:05
zanebinteresting, got a link?23:05
asalkeldi want to understand why23:05
asalkeldon the ml23:05
zanebgot a subject line? ;)23:06
asalkeldhunting23:06
asalkeld[all] how to send messages (and events) to our users23:06
zaneboh, the Atom thing23:07
asalkeldfrom: Monsyne Dragon23:07
asalkeldzaneb: yip23:07
asalkeldexisting tech23:07
asalkeldwe could just have a howto + example in devstack23:08
zanebmmmm, not really sure it's a good replacement though23:08
asalkeldit's only outgoing23:08
asalkeldfit for purpose23:08
asalkeldwell known api23:08
asalkeldtooling that real users can ues23:08
asalkelds/ues/use23:09
asalkeldanyway, worth thinking about23:09
asalkeldi really hate having to cause zaqar more trouble/push back23:09
asalkeldbut we should keep our minds open23:10
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asalkeldzaneb: i make a cross project session for this stuff23:10
zanebick, Java :D23:11
asalkeldso hopefully we can discuss23:11
asalkeldzaneb: there is a similar project lifeless pointed me to23:11
asalkeldhttp://www.odata.org/documentation/odata-version-2-0/json-format23:11
lifelessoh hai23:12
asalkeldhi lifeless23:12
zanebcool, I had a moment of regret that I it was too late to propose cross-project sessions, but then I saw that you and others already had ones to cover most of the general areas23:12
asalkeldyip23:14
* asalkeld getting some breaky23:14
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asalkeldbeen raining for days and we are forcast to get 100mm this morning23:17
asalkeldsodden23:17
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krakFolks, has anyone reached a threshold on how many resources one can spawn through heat ? #JunoOpenstack23:20
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asalkeldkrak: there is a config setting23:25
asalkeldthat limits the number of resources23:25
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asalkeldkrak: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/common/config.py#L11623:27
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Merge tag '2015.1.0'  https://review.openstack.org/17929123:30
krakThanks asalkeld. But I am facing issues with 16 vm's per user stack. Mostly deletion of stack fails, sometimes creation too.23:30
asalkeldkrak: i have a meeting now, but will be back in a bit23:30
kraksure.23:30
krakappreciate your help!23:31
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openstackgerritMiguel Grinberg proposed openstack/heat: Decouple trustee user from keystone_authtoken  https://review.openstack.org/17705523:47

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