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| ramishra | morning all | 02:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add validation to set either uuid, network_id or port https://review.openstack.org/179574 | 03:23 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker: what are you going to do about the meeting times? | 03:24 |
| asalkeld | (just wondering if will be able to make them) | 03:25 |
| asalkeld | might have to miss an odd one | 03:25 |
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| sdake | hey guys | 03:33 |
| sdake | have question | 03:33 |
| sdake | using wait conditions with neutron | 03:33 |
| sdake | my host is 10.10.10.100 | 03:33 |
| sdake | my vm is 10.10.10.5 | 03:33 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: I can try continuing the morning slot for now - I'll have to pop out for school run at 30 minute mark for 10 minutes | 03:33 |
| sdake | my vm has a float of 192.168.1.172 | 03:33 |
| sdake | how do I signal heat-cfn when it has 10.10.10.100 address programmed in? | 03:34 |
| sdake | is there a proxy of some sort? | 03:34 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: as for the late slot, I can't see myself ever making that, either I'll ask someone else to run it or we can negotiate a different time | 03:34 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker: ok- you should attend both, just make it more convenient for yourself | 03:35 |
| stevebaker | sdake: you can set heat.conf heat_waitcondition_server_url to something your vm can reach | 03:36 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: I should. | 03:37 |
| sdake | stevebaker in the case of neutron, what do people typically set that to? | 03:37 |
| stevebaker | sdake: my devstack just works, its set to the HOST_IP | 03:37 |
| stevebaker | sdake: same for my rdo | 03:38 |
| sdake | I realize devstack works fantastic | 03:38 |
| stevebaker | sdake: it should need to be different from your catalog endpoints unless you have some proxy setup | 03:39 |
| stevebaker | sdake: you just need to debug your vm->host connectivity | 03:39 |
| sdake | I"m just not sure what to set it to that I can access from inside the vm | 03:39 |
| sdake | the vm can't access the host - neutron is designed this way | 03:39 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Raise HTTPBadRequest instead of ValueError for API validation https://review.openstack.org/178494 | 03:41 |
| sdake | neutron guys wrote neutron-metadata server to deal wit hthe problem | 03:43 |
| sdake | I'd be interested to see people using heat with neutron with wait conditions in production | 03:45 |
| sdake | and know how they did it ;) | 03:45 |
| sdake | neturon-metadata is a proxy to the nova api | 03:47 |
| sdake | it runs in the namespace of the network or some nonsense | 03:48 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Not allow delete a snapshot in snapshotting https://review.openstack.org/178038 | 03:49 |
| asalkeld | this needs to get in -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159444/ (convergence-traversal) | 03:49 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Move openstack resources tests to heat/tests/openstack/ https://review.openstack.org/178074 | 03:50 |
| asalkeld | sirushti: rebase -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167324/ | 03:51 |
| asalkeld | sdake: so why can | 03:54 |
| asalkeld | sdake: so why can't a vm access the public api? | 03:54 |
| sdake | the public apis run on a different network from the vm networks i guess | 03:54 |
| asalkeld | wait cond. is just the heat-api | 03:54 |
| asalkeld | that seems like a fail | 03:55 |
| asalkeld | maybe you need to use a different network:-O | 03:55 |
| sdake | if someon ecould tell me the magic incantation I'd do it | 03:55 |
| sdake | keep in mind i'm using kolla not devstack | 03:55 |
| sdake | so I can't use that masquarade hack | 03:55 |
| sirushti | asalkeld, will do | 03:59 |
| asalkeld | sdake: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/neutron-legacy#L584 | 04:00 |
| * asalkeld not a networking guru | 04:01 | |
| asalkeld | but seems to make sense that if you can access the "internet", you should be able to access the waitcond_url | 04:02 |
| sdake | asalkeld here is our init script | 04:05 |
| sdake | http://ur1.ca/kagzl -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/218063/71229414 | 04:05 |
| sdake | i can access the internet | 04:05 |
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| sdake | I think I have a workaround by running heat-api-cfn on a different node | 04:06 |
| sdake | the problem is my machine where I am running doesn't have a 192.168.1.100 address | 04:06 |
| sdake | i can run heat-api-cfn on 11.11.11.101 | 04:07 |
| sdake | which has a second interface 192.168.1.101 | 04:07 |
| sdake | and wait condition to 192.168.1.101 | 04:08 |
| sdake | so my wife tells me | 04:08 |
| asalkeld | :-) | 04:08 |
| sdake | "People wouldn't hate openstack if neutron didn't blow so much." | 04:08 |
| sdake | She followed that zinger up with | 04:08 |
| sdake | "But your company didn't build its empire because networking is easy" | 04:08 |
| asalkeld | touche | 04:08 |
| asalkeld | and you are asking for networking help here:-O | 04:09 |
| asalkeld | off you go now ... | 04:09 |
| sdake | you ahve to have a dedicated node on the flat network for running heat-api-cfn | 04:10 |
| sdake | it can't be the same node as the network nodes | 04:10 |
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| sdake | all in one = pain in the ass | 04:10 |
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| sdake | ls | 04:28 |
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| KanagarajM | good morning all ! | 05:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Allow creating lightweight stacks https://review.openstack.org/159774 | 05:56 |
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| inc0 | good morning everyone | 05:57 |
| sirushti | asalkeld, ^This is a dependency for 167324 btw | 05:57 |
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| will | I've developed a heat resource plug-in and deployed it under /usr/lib/heat/cms_heat_plugin. Why couldn't it be automatically deployed to /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cms_heat_plugin from /usr/lib/heat/cms_heat_plugin after restarting heat service? | 05:58 |
| inc0 | asalkeld, have you seen my email at openstack-dev? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/062992.html This is something I'd like to incubate in heat | 05:59 |
| inc0 | regarding versioned objects | 05:59 |
| asalkeld | sirushti: yeah I want to get started on those other convergence bps | 05:59 |
| asalkeld | inc0: hi, yeah | 05:59 |
| asalkeld | i'll have another look | 05:59 |
| inc0 | thank you, I'd appreciate any feedback before going to specs;) | 06:00 |
| sirushti | asalkeld, sure | 06:01 |
| asalkeld | inc0: why not heat-engine gets rpc message of too-new-message and just bounces it (sends it on assuming eventually a heat-engine will be able to deal with it) | 06:02 |
| inc0 | asalkeld, when we'll have only one engine in new version, we'll lose HA this way | 06:03 |
| asalkeld | inc0: but it's only for a short time | 06:03 |
| inc0 | because message will bounce indefinetly until it lands on this particular engine | 06:03 |
| asalkeld | whilst upgrading | 06:03 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/179631 | 06:03 |
| asalkeld | therefore not "indefinetly" | 06:03 |
| inc0 | theoretically indefinetly:) | 06:04 |
| inc0 | I mean it might never land on this engine for all we know | 06:04 |
| asalkeld | nova uses this mechanism | 06:04 |
| inc0 | ofc, if we accelerate upgrades, we'll lessen chance of this happening | 06:04 |
| inc0 | but nova doesn't really support complete no-downtime upgrade right now | 06:04 |
| inc0 | you *have* to put down all conductors during upgrade | 06:05 |
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| inc0 | or you risk losing rpc messages | 06:05 |
| asalkeld | you have to at least pause whilst the db is being upgraded | 06:05 |
| inc0 | well, you can do some replication magic to compensate and lessen this downtime | 06:06 |
| inc0 | and having to upgrade another service at the same time (possibly all services if everyone takes this approach) | 06:07 |
| inc0 | will complicate upgrade procedure | 06:07 |
| inc0 | and that means errors, omitted services and so on - all will add to downtime | 06:07 |
| asalkeld | so I don't see why having (or not having conductor) is important | 06:07 |
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| asalkeld | imo we are in the same situation | 06:08 |
| inc0 | conductor takes care about vo communication | 06:08 |
| inc0 | and nova assumes it is *always* up to date | 06:08 |
| asalkeld | for nova the compute services are *many*, thus it simply reduces the scope of the syncronisation | 06:09 |
| inc0 | if we'll assume that engine is *always* up to date, we don't have upgrade problem whatsoever:)_ | 06:09 |
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| asalkeld | so we upgrade heat-engine (rolling, before the db) | 06:09 |
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| asalkeld | then do a db sync | 06:09 |
| asalkeld | then upgrade the api | 06:10 |
| inc0 | actually I'd make db sync first;) | 06:10 |
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| asalkeld | inc0: then there is no point to your oslo objects | 06:10 |
| asalkeld | they only support backwards versions | 06:10 |
| asalkeld | not forward | 06:10 |
| asalkeld | so the code needs to be newer than the db | 06:11 |
| asalkeld | agree? | 06:11 |
| asalkeld | (well I agree with myself;) | 06:12 |
| inc0 | currently yeah ;) | 06:12 |
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| inc0 | but you'll never support newer version | 06:12 |
| inc0 | as you don't really know what have happened | 06:13 |
| will | asalkeld: I've developed a heat resource plug-in and deployed it under /usr/lib/heat/cms_heat_plugin. Why couldn't it be automatically deployed to /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cms_heat_plugin from /usr/lib/heat/cms_heat_plugin after restarting heat service? Please help take a look:) | 06:13 |
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| inc0 | they have sense with RPC, nosql and might have sense with db | 06:13 |
| asalkeld | inc0: exactly, so upgrade heat-engine first then db sync | 06:13 |
| inc0 | if we'll make incompatible db change | 06:13 |
| inc0 | if changes are all compatible, they're pretty much useless | 06:14 |
| inc0 | (from db perspective) | 06:14 |
| asalkeld | will: just add a path to the plugin_dirs in heat.conf | 06:14 |
| inc0 | with compatibility of db changes, we'll risk losing some info if we make call to new service and it will have to drop few columns | 06:15 |
| inc0 | main benefit from vo for us is actually RPC | 06:15 |
| asalkeld | inc0: but i said upgrade api last, so hopefully new features will not be used until after the api is upgraded | 06:16 |
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| inc0 | yup | 06:16 |
| will | asalkeld: #plugin_dirs=/usr/lib64/heat,/usr/lib/heat, uncomment it? | 06:16 |
| asalkeld | unless there is some major re-architecture internally | 06:16 |
| asalkeld | will: yip and append the path you need | 06:17 |
| will | asalkeld: Great, will try. Thanks Angus:) | 06:17 |
| asalkeld | ok | 06:17 |
| inc0 | but, back to the case at hand:) in terms of RPC calls - I think we need backporting | 06:19 |
| asalkeld | so what's the deal with backports? | 06:21 |
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| asalkeld | inc0: i replied - you can just continue there | 06:21 |
| inc0 | cool, thank you | 06:21 |
| asalkeld | (to the ml thread) | 06:21 |
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| asalkeld | sorry about the delay, i have been meaning to respond | 06:22 |
| will | asalkeld: I uncommented the plugin_dirs in file /etc/heat/heat.conf and restarted heat service with "cd /etc/init.d;for i in $(ls openstack-heat*); do service $i restart; done". But the plug-in wasn't deployed to /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/. Why? | 06:22 |
| inc0 | no worries, it was holiday in Poland anyway, do I'd reply today;) | 06:22 |
| asalkeld | will: did you add /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cms_heat_plugin to that list (plugin_dirs) | 06:24 |
| will | asalkeld: The heat service was restarted successfully. http://paste.openstack.org/show/214825/ | 06:24 |
| asalkeld | will: what do you mean by "it didn't deploy" | 06:25 |
| asalkeld | heat won't do a pip install of the package | 06:25 |
| zzxwill | No. The line says "# List of directories to search for plug-ins. (list value)", so I just list the plug-in path /usr/lib/heat | 06:25 |
| asalkeld | it will load resource types in the directories that you tell it about | 06:25 |
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| zzxwill | 'deploy' means the plugin in /usr/lib/heat/heat_plugin should be copied to /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/heat_plugin after heat restarting | 06:26 |
| zzxwill | asalkeld: Where should I put after I developed a plugin? | 06:27 |
| asalkeld | zzxwill: no, heat does not copy anything | 06:27 |
| asalkeld | you need to put the plugin where you want it | 06:28 |
| asalkeld | then you tell heat where it is | 06:28 |
| zzxwill | But if I didn't manually copied the plugin-in to /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/heat_plugin, heat command will fail. | 06:28 |
| zzxwill | ERROR: Timeout while waiting on RPC response - topic: "engine", RPC method: "list_resource_types" info: "HT-DB71657 <unknown>" | 06:28 |
| asalkeld | zzxwill: can you tell me exactly what you plugin_dirs is? | 06:30 |
| asalkeld | zzxwill: actually it looks like the client will need a proper python package | 06:33 |
| asalkeld | zzxwill: follow this model: https://github.com/openstack/heat/tree/master/contrib/heat_barbican | 06:33 |
| asalkeld | (make a python package and install it) | 06:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add support status for current_size ASG attribute https://review.openstack.org/179695 | 06:35 |
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| asalkeld | I am off to pick up kids from school, be back later | 06:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Custom constrain for keystone service https://review.openstack.org/178583 | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: heat_keystone README update for service and endpoint https://review.openstack.org/178586 | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Resource plug-in for keystone endpoint https://review.openstack.org/178585 | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Resource plug-in for keystone service https://review.openstack.org/178584 | 17:07 |
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| alextricity | Does anybody know if nested stacks within resourceGroups have access to the parents parameters/ | 17:45 |
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| therve | alextricity, I'd be really surprised. What's your usecase? | 18:03 |
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| alextricity | Oh, i'm just going through this blog here:http://hardysteven.blogspot.com/2014/09/using-heat-resourcegroup-resources.html | 18:07 |
| alextricity | Creating multiple servers part of group with attached volumes | 18:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/179903 | 20:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/179916 | 20:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Encrypt Heat template hidden parameters https://review.openstack.org/97900 | 21:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Generate stack events for stack state transitions https://review.openstack.org/177961 | 21:43 |
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| stevebaker | morning | 23:01 |
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