| stevebaker | KanagarajM: there are 2 summit sessions which need a Driver to run it which I have put your name against with a "?". Could you take a look? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-heat-sessions | 00:01 |
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| KanagarajM | stevebaker: sure. 1 sec | 00:01 |
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| KanagarajM | stevebaker: I could drive alembic session (14) | 00:06 |
| stevebaker | KanagarajM: OK | 00:06 |
| stevebaker | Still need someone for convergence 2 | 00:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat-specs: Designate resource plug-ins https://review.openstack.org/174275 | 00:11 |
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| asalkeld | pesky rabbit "[ERROR] /home/angus/work/devstack/lib/rpc_backend:201 Failed to set rabbitmq password" | 01:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Add basic Ceilometer alarm test https://review.openstack.org/178036 | 01:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kylin CG proposed openstack/heat: Use public discover_extensions from novaclient https://review.openstack.org/180812 | 01:09 |
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| xuhaiwei | hi, I have made a patch about fixing the database, is there any giude about how to make database migration? | 01:44 |
| asalkeld | xuhaiwei: i'd suggest looking at the git history | 01:46 |
| asalkeld | (to see how others do it) | 01:47 |
| xuhaiwei | asalkeld: good idea, thanks | 01:47 |
| asalkeld | xuhaiwei: https://github.com/openstack/heat/commit/edf86aeac2f7b68243b0eccc3c49fa1a579e664b | 01:48 |
| asalkeld | that's one i did not so long ago | 01:48 |
| asalkeld | (ignore the bits that are not relevant) | 01:49 |
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| xuhaiwei | asalkeld: ok, thank you. I am reading it | 01:49 |
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| zaneb | did unit tests get a lot slower while I wasn't watching? | 02:41 |
| asalkeld | zaneb: i noticed some take 5s now | 02:45 |
| zaneb | my longest just took 35.879s | 02:45 |
| zaneb | maybe I just need a new computer | 02:45 |
| zaneb | or to reboot this one | 02:45 |
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| asalkeld | zaneb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/215712/ | 02:48 |
| zaneb | bah | 02:49 |
| zaneb | I blame firefox for hogging all my memory | 02:49 |
| asalkeld | my laptop fan cranked up like a jet :-O | 02:49 |
| zaneb | just added 'get new laptop' to my to-do list | 02:51 |
| zaneb | this one is 4 years old next month | 02:51 |
| asalkeld | wow | 02:51 |
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| asalkeld | I have a "pretend macbook pro15" aka dell xps15 | 02:52 |
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| asalkeld | really nice | 02:52 |
| asalkeld | no fighting with osx | 02:52 |
| elynn | morning :) | 02:52 |
| zaneb | I've been waiting for the new Lenovos, since they made a complete botch of the trackpads on last year's ones | 02:53 |
| ramishra | morning all | 02:53 |
| asalkeld | hi all | 02:53 |
| zaneb | this bug was a doozy to track down: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1452534 | 02:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1452534 in heat "Changing paths in env are ignored when updating a template resource" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zane Bitter (zaneb) | 02:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat-templates: Add tests and example template for atomic hook https://review.openstack.org/166643 | 02:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/180595 | 03:04 |
| Qiming | "Your country or region requires a strict Bing SafeSearch setting, which filters out results that might return adult content." | 03:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Add option to show hidden stacks in stack-list https://review.openstack.org/179448 | 03:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Update template paths for environment-mapped TemplateResources https://review.openstack.org/180843 | 03:08 |
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| asalkeld | zaneb: you need a test | 03:17 |
| zaneb | ugh, I know but my whole team is blocked on this | 03:18 |
| zaneb | at it's 11.18pm | 03:18 |
| asalkeld | zaneb: maybe i can give it a go | 03:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Assert that we can update TemplateResources with a new file path https://review.openstack.org/180847 | 03:36 |
| asalkeld | zaneb: ^ | 03:36 |
| asalkeld | (not tested locally :-O) | 03:37 |
| asalkeld | devstack broken | 03:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Run heat_integrationtests in parallel https://review.openstack.org/172339 | 03:53 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: dang, you beat me to to | 03:53 |
| stevebaker | to it | 03:53 |
| asalkeld | ok | 03:54 |
| asalkeld | zorry, didn't know | 03:55 |
| asalkeld | feel free to merge with mine if you want | 03:55 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: I'll just try and get my devstack up and running | 03:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Test for update on template resource changed file path https://review.openstack.org/180849 | 04:14 |
| stevebaker | also untested locally | 04:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Update template paths for environment-mapped TemplateResources https://review.openstack.org/180843 | 04:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Test for update on template resource changed file path https://review.openstack.org/180853 | 04:20 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker: why not just make one patch | 04:24 |
| asalkeld | no one will know what to review | 04:24 |
| asalkeld | shrug | 04:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Not allow to delete in-progress snapshot https://review.openstack.org/178038 | 04:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Expose create time in stack resource list: https://review.openstack.org/180073 | 04:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kylin CG proposed openstack/heat: Use public discover_extensions from novaclient https://review.openstack.org/180812 | 05:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Custom constrain for keystone service https://review.openstack.org/178583 | 05:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: heat_keystone README update for service and endpoint https://review.openstack.org/178586 | 05:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Resource plug-in for keystone endpoint https://review.openstack.org/178585 | 05:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Resource plug-in for keystone service https://review.openstack.org/178584 | 05:13 |
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| ananta | good morning/afternoon | 05:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | xu-haiwei proposed openstack/heat: Support multiple software config within one deployment https://review.openstack.org/168824 | 06:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | xu-haiwei proposed openstack/heat: Support multiple software config within one deployment https://review.openstack.org/168824 | 06:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gary Duan proposed openstack/heat-specs: Support Monasca alarms and notifications https://review.openstack.org/174262 | 06:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gary Duan proposed openstack/heat-specs: Support Monasca alarms and notifications https://review.openstack.org/174262 | 06:31 |
| sdake | any ibm cats around | 06:42 |
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| skraynev | jasond: now - yes | 07:15 |
| skraynev | morning all | 07:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Test for update on template resource changed file path https://review.openstack.org/180853 | 07:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add functional tests from Tempest https://review.openstack.org/180217 | 07:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add OS_TEST_PATH to testr https://review.openstack.org/180216 | 07:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add first pass at post_test_hook for functional https://review.openstack.org/180539 | 07:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Move unittests to subdir unit https://review.openstack.org/180215 | 07:27 |
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| LimorStotland | Hi all, I have a newbie question...if i want some code to be backporting to kilo who can i do it? | 07:37 |
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| zzxwill | I wrote a heat resource plugin with a method handle_update(). But I found _resource_update() in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/heat/engine/update.py was NOT executed when I ran "heat stack-update", nor was handle_update(). Any suggestion on debugging this? | 07:43 |
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| inc0 | LimorStotland, this might be hard | 07:52 |
| inc0 | backports aren't common and we usually want them to be major critical bug fix | 07:52 |
| Murali | hi | 07:53 |
| LimorStotland | inc0 : ok... is the place where i can suggest it as a candidate ? | 07:54 |
| Murali | I am seeing the error http://pastebin.com/54F0h1jf when I start my heat-engine | 07:54 |
| Murali | which fails to start | 07:54 |
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| Murali | could someone help to fix this issue | 07:54 |
| inc0 | I'd suggest starting with openstack-dev list and heat meeting | 07:55 |
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| zzxwill | The sql of cpu and mem update seems normal. http://paste.openstack.org/show/215903/ | 07:58 |
| ramishra | LimorStotland: I think, if this has a bug in lp, you can tag the bug as 'kilo-backport-potential' and submit a patch for the kilo stable branch | 07:59 |
| LimorStotland | and if it's not a bug? | 08:00 |
| inc0 | then its most likely not valid for backport | 08:00 |
| therve | Murali, You have the wrong version of sqlalchemy-migrate | 08:03 |
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| Murali | therve: my version is python-sqlalchemy 0.9.7-1~cloud0 | 08:06 |
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| Murali | therve: do I need to downgrade python-sqlalchemy to 0.9.6 | 08:08 |
| therve | It needs 0.9.1 apparently | 08:09 |
| therve | I don't know your environment so I can't really suggest a solution | 08:09 |
| Murali | therve: I am running juno version | 08:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Check stack name before store a new stack https://review.openstack.org/180903 | 08:10 |
| zzxwill | I wrote a heat resource plugin with a method handle_update(). But I found _resource_update() in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/heat/engine/update.py was NOT executed when I ran "heat stack-update", nor was handle_update(). Any suggestion on debugging this? The log from engine.log showed that the sql for updating cpu and men was correct. http://paste.openstack.org/show/215903/ | 08:12 |
| zzxwill | Please anyone avalilable for this issue? | 08:13 |
| therve | zzxwill, How did your template changed? | 08:13 |
| zzxwill | heat stack-update stack-update-8 -f /usr/lib/heat/cms_heat_plugin/sample_template/single_vm_stack.yaml --parameter "cpu=2;mem=4;host_name=vm-z-05051;image_id=814" -t 90 | 08:17 |
| zzxwill | I updated the cpu and memory in parameter, WITHOUT changing HOT. | 08:17 |
| therve | zzxwill, That won't call your resource handle_update then | 08:17 |
| therve | handle_update is only called when the properties of the resource change | 08:18 |
| zzxwill | Creating command: heat stack-create stack-update-8 -f /usr/lib/heat/cms_heat_plugin/sample_template/single_vm_stack.yaml --parameter "cpu=1;mem=2;host_name=vm-z-05051;image_id=814" -t 90 | 08:18 |
| zzxwill | cpu and mem changed. | 08:18 |
| zzxwill | Do you mean I have to update values of cpu and mem in the HOT? | 08:18 |
| therve | Are you referencing those in your resource? | 08:19 |
| zzxwill | yes. | 08:19 |
| zzxwill | The log from engine.log showed that the sql for updating cpu and men was correct. http://paste.openstack.org/show/215903/ | 08:19 |
| therve | Are those properties marked as update_allowed? | 08:20 |
| zzxwill | update_allowed_keys = ('Properties',) | 08:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/heat: Save updated-in-place resources to backup stack https://review.openstack.org/175868 | 08:21 |
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| zzxwill | Do I need to add "update_allowed_properties = ( CPU,MEM,)" | 08:21 |
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| zzxwill | From the log, heat had detected that cpu and mem changed. | 08:22 |
| zzxwill | [05/07/2015 03:25:18 EDT]sqlalchemy.engine.base.EngineINFO : UPDATE stack SET raw_template_id=?, parameters=?, updated_at=? WHERE stack.id = ? | 08:22 |
| therve | zzxwill, See update_allowed in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/pluginguide.html#defining-resource-properties | 08:22 |
| zzxwill | [05/07/2015 03:25:18 EDT]sqlalchemy.engine.base.EngineINFO : (211, '{"parameters": {"mem": "8", "image_id": "814", "cpu": "4", "host_name": "vm-z-05051"}, "resource_registry": {"resources": {}}}', datetime.datetime(2015, 5, 7, 7, 25, 15, 507410), '41c49f76-cb85-4d69-93d7-bf36b73c052d') | 08:23 |
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| zzxwill | therve: yes, I did.http://paste.openstack.org/show/215937/ | 08:24 |
| therve | I don't know then, maybe it's a bug | 08:25 |
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| zzxwill | That's horrible if it's a bug:( | 08:28 |
| zzxwill | Anyway, thanks a lot! | 08:29 |
| therve | There are worse things | 08:29 |
| therve | If you can provide a small reproducible example we can test it | 08:30 |
| Murali | therve: after I installing the sqlalchemy-migrate0.9.1 and oslo.db==1.0.3 able to start heat-engine | 08:30 |
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| zzxwill | therve: Can you send your email to me? | 08:34 |
| therve | zzxwill, No? :) | 08:35 |
| therve | Open a bug in launchpad if you think you found an issue | 08:35 |
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| zzxwill | Sure, thanks. | 08:41 |
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| zzxwill | therve: Sorry. I could not find an entrance for opening an issue to openstack heat. | 08:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Run heat_integrationtests in parallel https://review.openstack.org/172339 | 09:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add scenario test for AWS loadbalancer https://review.openstack.org/153192 | 09:11 |
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| therve | zzxwill, https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+filebug | 09:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Custom constrain for keystone service https://review.openstack.org/178583 | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Fix call to ignore_not_found() in SwiftSignal https://review.openstack.org/180657 | 09:34 |
| zzxwill | therve: Thx:) | 09:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat-specs: Monasca resource plugin for Alarm and Notification https://review.openstack.org/174262 | 09:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Check stack name before store a new stack https://review.openstack.org/180903 | 10:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Remove DatabaseInstance note from README https://review.openstack.org/180924 | 10:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add type field to the resource attributes schema https://review.openstack.org/173179 | 10:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/heat: Save updated-in-place resources to backup stack https://review.openstack.org/180944 | 11:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Implement --limit option for event-list with --nested-depth https://review.openstack.org/178660 | 11:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Make hook type optional for hook-clear https://review.openstack.org/179196 | 11:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Refactor common event code into event_utils module https://review.openstack.org/178756 | 11:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add hook-poll function to check if a stack has pending hooks https://review.openstack.org/173969 | 11:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Move barbican client in main tree https://review.openstack.org/180958 | 11:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Implement barbican-backed store mechanism https://review.openstack.org/180959 | 11:51 |
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| ashishjain | Hello | 12:15 |
| ashishjain | user_data section in my heat template is not working | 12:15 |
| ashishjain | Is there any pre-requisite to make it work | 12:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec for switching to alembic for DB migration. https://review.openstack.org/180965 | 12:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Removes redundant validation of template https://review.openstack.org/173710 | 12:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec for switching to alembic for DB migration. https://review.openstack.org/180965 | 12:33 |
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| shardy | ashishjain: You need cloud-init in the image you're booting, and use user_data_format: RAW in your template for OS::Nova::Server | 12:37 |
| ashishjain | shardy: Thanks a lot for this info. | 12:37 |
| shardy | that is the minimum, you may also want additional agents if you want to use heat-cfntools or SoftwareDeployment resources | 12:37 |
| ashishjain | shardy: My use case is to use docker image as a nova-server and using string_replace as well | 12:38 |
| ashishjain | shardy: will cloud-init suffice for this | 12:38 |
| shardy | ashishjain: you want to deploy an image to act as a host for docker containers? | 12:40 |
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| ashishjain | shardy: No I am deploying a docker container as a OS::Nova::Server resource on the compute node | 12:42 |
| shardy | ashishjain: using the nova-docker driver? | 12:42 |
| ashishjain | shardy:yes | 12:42 |
| shardy | I guess cloud-init will suffice, if the container can retrieve the userdata from nova | 12:43 |
| shardy | that's not a configuration I've personally tried tho | 12:43 |
| ashishjain | shardy: here is the sample template http://paste.openstack.org/show/216111/ | 12:43 |
| ashishjain | httpd is a docker images | 12:43 |
| ashishjain | everything works fine except the user data section | 12:43 |
| ashishjain | but it does not have cloud-init | 12:44 |
| ashishjain | httpd image does not have cloud-init | 12:44 |
| shardy | ashishjain: then there's nothing to collect the user-data and run it (cloud-init normally does that) | 12:44 |
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| ashishjain | shardy: Sorry did not get your last statement | 12:45 |
| shardy | ashishjain: there is nothing in your container which collects and runs the user-data script | 12:46 |
| shardy | in non-container deployments, cloud-init is the tool which does that | 12:46 |
| ashishjain | shardy: Okay so does that mean I do not need to have cloud-init in the container? | 12:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec for switching to alembic for DB migration. https://review.openstack.org/180965 | 12:47 |
| ashishjain | shardy: I think I misunderstood you | 12:48 |
| ashishjain | shardy: You mean that i have cloud-init pre-installed in the container | 12:48 |
| shardy | ashishjain: if you want the user-data script to run, something has to run it | 12:49 |
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| ashishjain | shardy: agreed :) | 12:49 |
| ashishjain | shardy: when does this user_data script run , post the containers are up or even before containers are up? | 12:49 |
| shardy | ashishjain: it doesn't run, because you have nothing running it, because you don't have cloud-init (or something else) running it | 12:50 |
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| ashishjain | shardy: what I want to do finally is write the IP of one container into config file of another container so that both of them can talk to each other. | 12:52 |
| ashishjain | so there will be 2 containers running | 12:52 |
| ashishjain | Shardy: aah I think cloud-init will not work on containers | 12:53 |
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| ashishjain | shardy: because whenever you start a container it has a script to execute | 12:53 |
| ashishjain | or a service or a process | 12:53 |
| ashishjain | now my use case is to substitute the Ip of one container into another. | 12:54 |
| ashishjain | even before the service is started. | 12:54 |
| ashishjain | but since cloud-init execution takes place only once the container is up. This change will not be effective | 12:54 |
| ashishjain | as the process would have already started :( | 12:55 |
| ashishjain | shardy: am I wrong? | 12:55 |
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| shardy | ashishjain: you may be able to access the IP address assigned by nova via the first_address attribute: | 12:58 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/servers_in_existing_neutron_network_no_floating_ips.yaml#L75 | 12:58 |
| ashishjain | shardy: I am able to access the IP | 12:59 |
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| ashishjain | as you have pointed out using the <resource_name>, first address | 12:59 |
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| ashishjain | shardy: thanks I will try out with a container which has cloud-init installed in it and let you know if it works or not. | 13:00 |
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| AJaeger | cores, the following patch has been approved already but due to Jenkins/Gerrit problems did not merge. Could one of you add another +A vote, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177915/ | 13:01 |
| shardy | AJaeger: done | 13:02 |
| AJaeger | thanks, shardy ! | 13:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove DatabaseInstance note from README https://review.openstack.org/180924 | 13:57 |
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| jasond | if anybody has a chance to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97900/ i would appreciate it | 14:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: made change to architecture rst heat doc https://review.openstack.org/177915 | 14:04 |
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| ryansb | related to meeting topic yesterday: https://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/event/6c9209e54efa9a4e76a9cf56ba53bb9c | 14:25 |
| ryansb | (for folks interested in user-facing messages) | 14:25 |
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| skraynev | shardy: ping | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Encrypt Heat template hidden parameters https://review.openstack.org/97900 | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Assert that we can update TemplateResources with a new file path https://review.openstack.org/180847 | 15:02 |
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| skraynev | zaneb: around? | 15:05 |
| zaneb | skraynev: hey | 15:05 |
| skraynev | zaneb: hi :) Do you have we any possibility to port some fix to heatclient with earlier tag | 15:06 |
| skraynev | ? | 15:06 |
| zaneb | that's... an excellent question | 15:07 |
| shardy | skraynev: pong | 15:07 |
| skraynev | more details: port fix, which is presented in 0.4.0 to 0.3.0 | 15:07 |
| zaneb | I don't know if we have 'stable' branch equivalents for previous minor releases of the clients | 15:07 |
| skraynev | shardy: ^ | 15:07 |
| shardy | skraynev: AIUI we only ever land fixes, then release a new version | 15:08 |
| shardy | which should work, because the clients are supposed to be backwards compatible | 15:08 |
| skraynev | shardy: oh nooooo... | 15:08 |
| zaneb | in theory I think we're supposed to always go forwards, since we never break backwards compat | 15:08 |
| zaneb | ha ha | 15:08 |
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| shardy | zaneb: +1 that's my understanding as well | 15:08 |
| therve | Never is a long time :) | 15:08 |
| skraynev | shardy: compatible-yes. and it was excelent, when we had not any upper bound for stable versions... | 15:09 |
| therve | But yeah we don't release bug fix versions | 15:09 |
| shardy | therve: well, we do, you just have to upgrade to whatever version fixes your bug ;) | 15:09 |
| therve | Right :) | 15:09 |
| shardy | skraynev: can't we propose a patch increasing the upper bound for stable/requirements? | 15:09 |
| shardy | AIUI the caps are there to avoid random breakage, not to prevent the upper bound ever moving | 15:10 |
| kairat_kushaev | zaneb: If you have some time could you please look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175868/? | 15:10 |
| skraynev | shardy: I definitely do not know answer ;) | 15:10 |
| zaneb | kairat_kushaev: yes! I saw you posted some analysis on the bug too. haven't had the chance to read yet, but thanks for taking the time | 15:11 |
| skraynev | shardy: if yes, it will be really cool, because current juno requirements for heatclient have client with issue which block some cli commands ;) | 15:11 |
| zaneb | shardy++ | 15:12 |
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| shardy | skraynev: I'd propose a patch to stable/juno requirements, explaining why the change in cap is justified, and see what requirements core folks have to say about it | 15:12 |
| shardy | it's not like we're moving the lower bound, e.g it shouldn't affect distributors unless they want to roll out the new version with the fix | 15:13 |
| skraynev | shardy: ok. got it. thx ;) | 15:15 |
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| david-lyle | zaneb, can you explain to me a little how your contrib directory works? | 15:50 |
| david-lyle | I'm trying to figure out the best way to organize plugins to horizon | 15:50 |
| shardy | If anyone has time, I could do with some heatclient reviews, series ending with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179196/ | 15:51 |
| david-lyle | and thinking about in tree, but not officially supported or in a separate repo | 15:51 |
| shardy | when they all land, we can cut a new release and unblock some TripleO work using heat breakpoints/hooks | 15:51 |
| shardy | david-lyle: our contrib tree is all disabled by default,m | 15:54 |
| shardy | and not an officially supported part of the main heat release | 15:54 |
| shardy | the plugins themselves follow the same conventions and interfaces as the in-tree ones though | 15:55 |
| shardy | so it's fairly easy to promote them when appropriate | 15:55 |
| shardy | it used to be contrib == not integrated, but obviously criteria for main-tree inclusion will get more fuzzy with the big tent evolution | 15:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec for switching to alembic for DB migration. https://review.openstack.org/180965 | 15:57 |
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| david-lyle | shardy, do they get tested as part of the heat gate tests? | 15:59 |
| david-lyle | or how does testing happen? | 15:59 |
| david-lyle | also same core-reviewers or wider team? | 16:00 |
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| shardy | david-lyle: yes, there are tests, but typically only unit tests, not functional tests like for the main resources | 16:00 |
| shardy | david-lyle: same core team | 16:01 |
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| david-lyle | shardy, and operators can enable via config? | 16:02 |
| shardy | david-lyle: yup, each resource can be selectively enabled via heat.conf | 16:03 |
| david-lyle | shardy, thank you for the info, just want to see what's working for others | 16:05 |
| shardy | david-lyle: np! | 16:05 |
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| zaneb | david-lyle: I should probably point out that there's widespread disagreement on whether /contrib is (still) working for us ;) | 16:46 |
| david-lyle | too much load on core? | 16:47 |
| zaneb | I expect there'll be a session at the design summit about it, you should probably try to attend | 16:47 |
| zaneb | nah, it's not a big workload really | 16:47 |
| zaneb | but when there were integrated and not-integrated projects it was easy to draw the line | 16:48 |
| david-lyle | zaneb, exactly | 16:48 |
| zaneb | now... not so much | 16:48 |
| david-lyle | my biggest concern | 16:48 |
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| zaneb | I'd like to see everything move to a model where the operator can select whatever plugins make sense for their installation | 16:49 |
| zaneb | so there's no "core" | 16:49 |
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| randallburt | zaneb: +1 | 16:49 |
| zaneb | by "everything" I mean heat, horizon, devstack, python-openstackclient, mistral, tempest, &c. | 16:50 |
| david-lyle | more decisions for the operator, though | 16:50 |
| zaneb | eh, yes and no | 16:50 |
| zaneb | ideally in your deployment tool you choose what services you want to roll out and it deploys the corresponding plugins with all the other things that have plugins | 16:51 |
| randallburt | its decisions we're already having to make. The current system of plugins and global environments work ok, but a cleaner more flexible system wouldn't be frowned upon | 16:51 |
| zaneb | so more work for the deployment tool folks | 16:51 |
| zaneb | wait - that's me | 16:51 |
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| zaneb | never mind :D | 16:51 |
| randallburt | again, work we're already doing though :D | 16:51 |
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| zaneb | right, the operator already has to decide what services they're going to provide | 16:52 |
| david-lyle | I'm ok with the operator choosing as long as they understand all the places required to make changes when the choose | 16:52 |
| david-lyle | e.g., in horizon currently, if someone configures a ceilometer endpoint in keystone, the ceilometer related functionality automatically is enabled in horizon | 16:53 |
| david-lyle | if I move ceilometer support to be off by default, they have to set up the service and know to configure horizon to use it | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Encrypt Heat template hidden parameters https://review.openstack.org/97900 | 16:54 |
| david-lyle | I suppose it's just education | 16:54 |
| david-lyle | and good documentation | 16:54 |
| zaneb | david-lyle: yeah, one thing we have talked about is moving to activation based on keystone endpoints | 16:55 |
| zaneb | and I think that is a Good Thing | 16:56 |
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| david-lyle | but then all the code has to live in the same tree | 16:56 |
| david-lyle | which is the downside | 16:56 |
| david-lyle | with the big tree | 16:56 |
| david-lyle | s/tree/tent/ | 16:56 |
| david-lyle | how much can you pull into tree before it becomes untenable | 16:57 |
| randallburt | a lot IMO | 16:57 |
| zaneb | yeah, I mean if installing the service automatically installed all the plugins for it, that would be ideal. but that's a problem that is out of scope for individual services, and would have to be handled by installers | 16:57 |
| david-lyle | seems like contrib is a compromise, aids testing, but core reviewer load keeps increasing | 16:58 |
| randallburt | and that still doesn't solve the problem of the resources that require specific privleges to work; role requirements should sort that though. | 16:58 |
| david-lyle | or automated plugin management would be ideal | 16:58 |
| zaneb | but I don't think we would have problems with maintaining plugins for every service in the big tent if we had a way of disabling them based on keystone endpoints | 16:58 |
| david-lyle | but the dependencies need to be installed | 16:59 |
| zaneb | it the ones like docker and randall's RAX ones that would be controversial | 16:59 |
| randallburt | aren't they always. | 16:59 |
| zaneb | david-lyle: true, but there's worse things than installing a bunch of extra clients | 17:00 |
| david-lyle | true | 17:00 |
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| zaneb | the maintenance burden has been a total non-issue for use, fwiw | 17:00 |
| zaneb | it may be different in your case | 17:00 |
| zaneb | but I would personally hope that the outcome is that all projects will get treated equally, however it ends up working | 17:01 |
| david-lyle | I really want to set up a system where service teams can manage their own ui components better, like a mixed core of horizon and X | 17:02 |
| zaneb | which is why this kernel-compute tag is evil, because it's an invitiation to those who want OpenStack to focus on solving yesterday's problems tomorrow to make it structurally impossible for new things to break in | 17:03 |
| david-lyle | I think a plugin model out of tree works best for that, but testing becomes more difficult | 17:03 |
| david-lyle | and install | 17:03 |
| zaneb | but I digress :) | 17:03 |
| david-lyle | zaneb, agree | 17:03 |
| zaneb | david-lyle: agree. testing is the reason that we decided to keep stuff in-tree | 17:03 |
| zaneb | or rather in-repo | 17:04 |
| * zaneb is breaking his own terminology rules | 17:04 | |
| * david-lyle has no rules or consistency, leads to confusion | 17:04 | |
| zaneb | and it has really helped, because we've been able to do major redesigns in the engine and make sure we keep all the known plugins up to date | 17:05 |
| zaneb | so maybe the answer is if you want to move stuff out of tree you have to have a really stable, well-defined API | 17:05 |
| david-lyle | yeah, we've broken some dependent plugins with changes | 17:05 |
| david-lyle | no way to mix core in for sub-trees in repos right? | 17:06 |
| david-lyle | s/in// | 17:06 |
| zaneb | you mean have different core teams working on one repo? | 17:07 |
| david-lyle | I suppose I can work on a system for that | 17:07 |
| david-lyle | yeah | 17:07 |
| zaneb | not that would be enforced by Gerrit afaik | 17:07 |
| zaneb | but enforcement is overrated | 17:07 |
| zaneb | I don't think you should let that stop you | 17:07 |
| david-lyle | I want say sahara core to be able to approve or at least +2 a sahara UI change | 17:08 |
| david-lyle | yeah, I think I can work around it | 17:08 |
| david-lyle | even if it's no explicitely supported by gerrit | 17:08 |
| david-lyle | tools shouldn't limit our interaction model | 17:09 |
| zaneb | +1 | 17:11 |
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| ashishjain | shardy: hi | 18:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Grinberg proposed openstack/heat-specs: Uniform Resource Signals https://review.openstack.org/180387 | 18:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Grinberg proposed openstack/heat-specs: Uniform Resource Signals https://review.openstack.org/180387 | 18:24 |
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| jasond | therve: would you mind looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97900/ again? i just fixed a failing unit test after rebasing | 19:27 |
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| ashishjain | hello | 19:34 |
| ashishjain | Somehow I am unable to make heat user_data to work with containers | 19:34 |
| ashishjain | Earlier today shardy advised to have cloud-init installed in a container | 19:35 |
| ashishjain | Now my container has cloud-init installed still the same problem | 19:35 |
| ashishjain | my user_data does not execute | 19:36 |
| shardy | ashishjain: It's really not a heat problem AFAICT, your nova user_data won't excecute with the nova-docker driver if you deploy via "nova boot", will it? | 19:43 |
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| shardy | ashishjain: you may be interested in the work ramishra has been doing to deploy containers, including the environment variables, e.g to docker-compose and atomic, via heat SoftwareDeployment resources | 19:43 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-templates/example-docker-compose-template.yaml | 19:44 |
| shardy | That is the heat-centric way to deploy containers right now, I don't think you'll find too many folks around here trying to deploy via nova-docker, then modify containers via cloud-init | 19:45 |
| shardy | I thought container customization via environment variables was the containerish way to go anyway, vs VM-like firstbook config via cloud-init | 19:46 |
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| shardy | If you google, there are some threads about nova-docker and cloud-init, maybe they will help if you're sticking with that approach | 19:46 |
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| ashishjain | shardy: how can I use user_data with nova boot? | 19:47 |
| shardy | nova boot --user-data <user-data> | 19:48 |
| shardy | see nova help boot | 19:48 |
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| shardy | if you're using user_data_format: RAW, I think you'll get the exact same results | 19:49 |
| ashishjain | shardy: here is my heat template, please see if you can point out some mistake there | 19:50 |
| ashishjain | http://paste.openstack.org/show/216417/ | 19:50 |
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| ashishjain | shardy: could it be that I did not start cloud-init while my container was booting | 19:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Add BayModel and Bay to Magnum client plugin https://review.openstack.org/179771 | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Add BayModel and Bay to Magnum client plugin https://review.openstack.org/179771 | 20:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Add BayModel and Bay to Magnum client plugin https://review.openstack.org/179771 | 20:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Disable cloud-watch-lite by default https://review.openstack.org/181152 | 21:19 |
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| shardy | stevebaker: hey, about to call it a night, but if you get a chance I'd really appreciate reviews of this series: | 21:28 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179196/ | 21:28 |
| shardy | If we could land those soon and cut a new heatclient release it will unblock the hook/breakpoint integration with devtest | 21:28 |
| stevebaker | shardy: will do, also I replied to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179974/ | 21:28 |
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| shardy | stevebaker: thanks, was just reading that | 21:29 |
| shardy | if we can figure out a pattern which avoids parameters for all-the-roles everywhere, that would be cool, but I'm not blocking on it | 21:30 |
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| shardy | my concern if if we break out the roles further, e.g separate Neutron roles etc etc, then it'll become a pretty big soup of options | 21:30 |
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| stevebaker | maybe the default TaskRoles should be [], and task scripts assume they should run if TaskRoles is empty. That would mean by default we don't need to keep track of what roles exist | 21:31 |
| shardy | stevebaker: +1, "update everything" seems like the most reasonable default behavior | 21:32 |
| shardy | then we have the option of adding incremental update via rolling updates and/or breakpoints, or going further and doing it role-by-role | 21:32 |
| stevebaker | So we could add TaskRoles later, and just start with TaskTimestamp and TaskName | 21:33 |
| stevebaker | ... and since there is currently only one task | 21:33 |
| stevebaker | ... nope, ignore that | 21:33 |
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| randallburt | stevebaker: shardy's client patches should be working their way through the gates now | 22:07 |
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| stevebaker | randallburt: sweet, I'll cut a release when they land | 22:08 |
| randallburt | stevebaker: might be a while, looks like they may have to go through twice unless ci is smart enough | 22:08 |
| stevebaker | I'll keep an eye on them | 22:09 |
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| asalkeld | friday :-) | 22:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Implement --limit option for event-list with --nested-depth https://review.openstack.org/178660 | 22:56 |
| randallburt | asalkeld: stop teasing me from the future. | 22:57 |
| asalkeld | haha | 22:58 |
| * stevebaker is Fridaying *hard* | 23:01 | |
| asalkeld | beer for breaky? | 23:03 |
| randallburt | yeah, just remember to enjoy your monday morning while I'm relaxing on my porch in a few days... | 23:05 |
| asalkeld | yeah two sides to a planet | 23:06 |
| asalkeld | http://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/event/6c9209e54efa9a4e76a9cf56ba53bb9c#.VUvwDXU4Z4s | 23:07 |
| asalkeld | randallburt: 6 | 23:07 |
| asalkeld | randallburt: ^ | 23:07 |
| randallburt | asalkeld: k. will add it to my sched | 23:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181202 | 23:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/179916 | 23:37 |
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