Monday, 2015-07-13

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ricolinguys plz help me to review this01:26
ricolinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/200532/401:26
ricolinwe need to put it on upstream AFAWC01:27
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asalkeldhaving a look ricolin01:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Add a way to run py34 tests from file  https://review.openstack.org/19651701:28
asalkeldricolin: what is "afawc"01:28
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asalkeldAs Far As the World Is Concerned01:29
asalkeldnever heard that one before01:30
ricolinhahaha01:30
ricolinisn't it "as fast as we can?"01:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Port short_id to return unicode  https://review.openstack.org/19651801:31
asalkeldi just googled it ..01:31
ricolinmaybe some abbreviation I make up..01:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Add template-function-list  https://review.openstack.org/19505502:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: New mock release(1.1.0) broke unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/20053202:25
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-heatclient: add with_detail parameter in heat resource-list request  https://review.openstack.org/20027703:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Added required name property to Create a key pair example  https://review.openstack.org/19948303:07
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Rename api unit test folder name  https://review.openstack.org/20001703:47
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KanagarajMgood morning all !04:07
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ricolinmorning04:13
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openstackgerritAnant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Refactor worker  https://review.openstack.org/20099505:31
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/19987806:03
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sirushtimorning all06:05
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skraynevgood morning06:20
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Return errors message if validate fail when clearing hook  https://review.openstack.org/19991806:44
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add show_resource function to Heat resources (2)  https://review.openstack.org/19959608:17
openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed openstack/heat: Move qpid-python to test-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/12077508:21
openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Split engine service test cases (8)  https://review.openstack.org/20103708:22
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Make the convergence gate functional  https://review.openstack.org/19827308:24
openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: convergence: add adopt support  https://review.openstack.org/19860708:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/20066808:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/19987808:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Rename api unit test folder name  https://review.openstack.org/20001708:26
openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Make the convergence gate functional  https://review.openstack.org/19827308:28
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat-specs: Improvements in deprecation process  https://review.openstack.org/15323509:07
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Move internal test resources to generic_resource  https://review.openstack.org/18975409:07
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add base_attribute schema for all resources  https://review.openstack.org/19560809:07
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add base resolve method for attributes  https://review.openstack.org/19560909:07
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add show_resource function to Heat resources (1)  https://review.openstack.org/19561009:07
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add show_resource function to Heat resources (2)  https://review.openstack.org/19959609:07
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Split engine unit test cases for resource type  https://review.openstack.org/20104609:15
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Resource-type-show does not report unavialable resource type  https://review.openstack.org/20104709:15
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openstackgerritMartin Mágr proposed openstack/heat-templates: Improve handling of Puppet output  https://review.openstack.org/18873709:34
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add show_resource function to Heat resources (1)  https://review.openstack.org/19561009:40
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: WIP: Return support_status and version in res type list  https://review.openstack.org/14776109:46
openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: WIP: Return support_status in resource type list  https://review.openstack.org/14776109:51
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openstackgerritOleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/heat: Wait until child process will be killed  https://review.openstack.org/19963809:53
openstackgerritDivakar Padiyar Nandavar proposed openstack/heat: Refactor Adding service_types to client_plugins  https://review.openstack.org/19340909:54
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: add resource_name in list_stack_resources method  https://review.openstack.org/20106910:22
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Resource-type-show does not report unavialable resource type  https://review.openstack.org/20104710:42
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Split engine unit test cases for resource type  https://review.openstack.org/20104610:42
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Split OpenStack API V1 unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/20107910:51
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openstackgerritVijendar Komalla proposed openstack/heat: Fix Rackspace nova server addresses attribute  https://review.openstack.org/20020211:32
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openstackgerritTetiana Lashchova proposed openstack/heat: Add show_resource function to Heat resources (3)  https://review.openstack.org/20109412:02
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Use __iter__ method of Attributes class in __repr__ method  https://review.openstack.org/20005912:23
openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: WIP: Return support_status in resource type list  https://review.openstack.org/14776112:24
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jistrstevebaker, shardy: hi, just an fyi: we'd like to try and move forward on this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188737/ because not having the feature means we're unable to debug stuck deployments. The py26 CI failing on that patch is probably because of CI itself and not because of the patch, so i submitted a patch to remove py26 job from heat-templates (py26 has been deprecated for some time afaik): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201105/12:33
openstackgerritAnant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix for resource needed_by  https://review.openstack.org/20111012:33
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Do not use rich server objects in servers' create  https://review.openstack.org/18876612:43
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openstackgerritVijendar Komalla proposed openstack/heat: Removed typo in log when stack not found  https://review.openstack.org/19958313:04
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bdossantHi! can anyone tell what is the status of heat cmds on the openstack client ? I saw that the work done was abandoned13:19
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ryansbbdossant: we're moving it to a plugin13:23
ryansbthat will live in heatclient13:23
bdossantyeah i saw13:23
ryansball projects should be moving that way13:23
bdossantis anyone taking care of that?13:24
bdossantany ETA? :)13:24
ryansbI believe sbaker13:24
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ryansbI'll ask him next time I see him if he has an ETA13:25
bdossantthanks!13:25
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Use mock in test_attributes.py instead of mox  https://review.openstack.org/20112513:34
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openstackgerritChris St. Pierre proposed openstack/heat: Add public_endpoint config option for OpenStack and CFN APIs  https://review.openstack.org/19765513:56
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openstackgerritDivakar Padiyar Nandavar proposed openstack/heat: Refactor Adding service_types to client_plugins  https://review.openstack.org/19340914:55
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openstackgerritTetiana Lashchova proposed openstack/heat: Add show_resource function to Heat resources (4)  https://review.openstack.org/20121515:04
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openstackgerritOleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/heat: Add show_resource function to Heat resources (5)  https://review.openstack.org/20123015:41
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heatlurkerIs anyone here able to answer questions ?16:54
openstackgerritOleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/heat: Add missing sttributes tests for manila share  https://review.openstack.org/20125316:54
openstackgerritOleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/heat: Add missing test for manila share attributes  https://review.openstack.org/20125316:55
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heatlurkerIs anyone here able to answer questions ?16:56
jdandreaheatlurker: Only one way to find out. ;)16:58
jdandreaWe shall try!16:59
heatlurkerOk16:59
heatlurkerIt is possible to dynamically scale server flavor with heat templates ? So, like vertical scaling within heat template.16:59
heatlurkerwith AutoScalingGroup or something similar16:59
heatlurkerLike you can horizontal scale with heat (OS::Ceilometer::Alarm+OS::Heat::ScalingPolicy+OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup). That I know, but what about vertical scaling ?17:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Removed typo in log when stack not found  https://review.openstack.org/19958317:03
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jdandreaheatlurker: You can use stack-update to vertically scale, but I believe autoscaling is designed to scale horizontally since it's taking a definition and replicating it X times.17:04
jdandreaheatlurker: Check out this article by mgrinberg as well: https://developer.rackspace.com/blog/openstack-orchestration-in-depth-part-4-scaling/17:04
openstackgerritVijendar Komalla proposed openstack/heat: Fix typos in hot_spec documentation  https://review.openstack.org/19999417:05
heatlurkerjdandrea: stack-update is for manual vertical scaling, from what I can see17:06
jdandreaheatlurker: Exactly. That's why I said I believe autoscaling is designed to scale horizontally (that is, it doesn't autoscale vertically because it's working off of some template/declaration and duplicating it X times vs. twiddling values within that definition).17:07
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heatlurkerjdandrea: So, no automatic vertical scaling is possible ?17:07
jdandreaheatlurker: The article by mgrinberg backs that up, more or less, with examples of vertical (manual) and horizontal (auto) scaling.17:08
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jdandreaheatlurker: It may be possible by using an alarm that calls out to a secure endpoint that issues a stack update, but I don't see a vertical autoscale construct within Heat, at least not to my knowledge. I could also be wrong.17:08
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blackjack1Hi guys. I encountered a problem when using a kilo version of Heat. First, I create a new stack using template: http://pastebin.com/kCQagAdK17:09
blackjack1And then try to update it with a following one: http://pastebin.com/qbgiEDsp17:09
blackjack1The above results in a failure, where it should have just added an extra network port to the stack. In the logs the following stacktrace is produced:17:09
blackjack1"Unable to complete operation for network <NETWORK_ID>. The IP address 10.0.0.10 is in use."17:09
blackjack1It looks like heat is trying to re-create the existing network port (port1 in the template) where it should just know that port already exists and should be left alone.17:09
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blackjack1So I did some investigation and found a workaround: implicitly specifying "replacement_policy: AUTO" for port1 solves an issue for me.17:09
blackjack1Also, looking at the code, looks like this is the only place where "replacement_policy" variable is actually checked: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/stable/kilo/heat/engine/resources/openstack/neutron/port.py#L35117:09
blackjack1And after exception is raised, old port is not deleted anywhere: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/stable/kilo/heat/engine/update.py#L14917:09
blackjack1Instead, heat tries to create new one with the same parameters and eventually fails.17:09
blackjack1So is this a bug and was it been reported? Because I tried to search for one and didn't succeed;17:09
jdandreaSince it's possible to do it manually with a stack-update, if it's enough to monitor for changes in such a way that you could kick off a stack-update in response, perhaps that could do the trick.17:09
heatlurkerjdandrea: I was thinking about that as well17:10
jdandreaheatlurker: I can appreciate that sounds a bit unwieldy. Still, if that would do the trick, in a pinch ...17:11
heatlurkerjdandrea: so, I'll call stack-update within the template itself, no ?17:11
jdandreaheatlurker: Hmm, how would that be done? :)17:11
jdandreaTemplates are declarative, not procedural (excepting cloud-init scripts which more and more are in separate files, but I digress).17:12
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jdandreaheatlurker: Just thinking out loud here, what if there was a Ceilometer alarm that logged to a file, and then a cron looked at that log for an alarm condition, kicking off the stack-update? (The other option is for the Ceilometer alarm to call a URI to handle things, but that isn't always doable, plus it should be secured via a keystone token.)17:13
heatlurkerSo, I cannot call stack-update on the template inside the same template, right ?17:13
jdandreaheatlurker: I'm not sure how you'd call any script "from within" the template. That's not how templates are meant to work.17:14
jdandreaAgain, maybe there's some new feature I'm unaware of or misunderstanding.17:15
jdandreaheatlurker: Basically, a template is declarative. It states "This is what reality should look like." It has been said that Heat orchestrates nouns, not verbs. (Look away from the thankfully deprecated HARestarter resource, please. *grin*)17:16
jdandreaAutoscaling is an interesting creature in that you're setting up this thing called an autoscaler, which is then set in motion (still a noun), but the verb part is handled within the autoscaler itself (which, yes, in this case just so happens to be part of Heat and not its own service, though that may/will change in the future).17:17
jdandreablackjack1: Hmm, I can't say I've seen *that* one. I would absolutely file a bug report, especially if you already have steps to reproduce (and it looks like you do). Nothing to lose.17:19
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heatlurkerjdandrea: so, no automatic vertical scaling functionality within heat or openstack exists as far as you know, right ?17:24
jdandreaheatlurker: My previous answer stands with regard to heat. As for *openstack* ...17:25
jdandreaheatlurker: There is a nascent project called Senlin. It's brandy-new though. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Senlin17:27
ryansbjdandrea: senlin isn't really "vertical" though17:27
jdandreaheatlurker: There was a deep dive of this at the last OpenStack Design Summit.17:28
ryansbit's more like "autoscaled resources as a service" via adding more of $resource, not by making the existing stuff bigger17:28
jdandreaheatlurker: I'm not sure if it supports vertical scaling or not. Maybe check on the #senlin channel?17:28
jdandrearyansb: Ah, there you go. :)17:28
jdandreaI tried. *grin*17:28
ryansbaiui (from summit talks and such) it doesn't do vertical scaling17:29
* jdandrea nods17:29
ryansbbut #senlin (or whatever their channel name is) would be a better place to ask.17:29
ryansb.pe17:29
jdandreaheatlurker: Bottom line, I am not aware of any out-of-the-box auto-vertical scaling, but I imagine there are creative ways to tackle it.17:29
jdandrearyansb: Yup, #senlin.17:30
* ryansb reads more backchannel to better understand the question17:30
jdandrea:D17:30
heatlurkerjdandrea: I'm looking for these creative ways :D17:30
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jdandreaheatlurker: Yay!17:30
jdandreaheatlurker: There's the Ceilometer alarm-to-a-logfile and cron-monitor idea from earlier, or have a secure endpoint that kicks off a stack-update.17:31
jdandreaApart from that ... *scratches head*17:31
ryansbIn heat you *could* have "vertical scaling" by replacing the flavor of a nova node, for example17:31
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ryansbso you'd have your m1.small server parameter changed to m2.8xMegaSuperLarge17:32
jdandrearyansb: Can that flavor replacement occur as the result of a Ceilometer alarm though, from within Heat? That's what I think heatlurker is asking.17:32
ryansband heat would replace/reprovision those servers17:32
heatlurkerryansb: would that be automatic though ?17:32
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ryansbno, you'd have to call stack update externally17:32
jdandreaYup, and that's what led me to monitoring an alarm log or having the alarm trigger a secure endpoint that, in turn, scales up.17:32
ryansbbut combined with autoscaling, you could have that update kick off a rolling scale-up of a bunch of computes17:32
* jdandrea nods17:33
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ryansbfrankly most of openstack is predicated on the scale-out rather than -up model17:33
jdandrearyansb: Would that be a scale up or a scale *out* ... the latter, no?17:33
jdandrea^^ what ryansb said.17:33
ryansbyou *can* scale up, but that's mostly not what the tools want to do17:34
jdandreaAye.17:34
ryansbjdandrea: I was imagining if you had N m1.small servers in an autoscaling group, then changed the group's flavor17:34
ryansbso it would, 1 at a time, scale each node up17:34
ryansbby replacing it with a bigger one17:34
jdandrearyansb: Right, but how to get that change to occur in response to an alarm? I don't think it's possible.17:34
jdandreaUnless it was from outside of Heat's Autoscaling construct.17:35
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ryansbno, you'd have to do something along the lines of your ceilometer-cron-thing17:35
jdandreaMhm.17:35
sirushtijdandrea, how about https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat_Mistral_resources_usage_examples#Using_Ceilometer_Alarm_with_Mistral_workflow_in_Heat. ?17:35
ryansbmaybe mistral could17:35
sirushtiwell, we could write a Mistral workflow17:35
jdandreaMistral! I knew I was forgetting something. :)17:35
sirushtiand then execute it based on a ceilometer alarm17:35
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jdandreasirushti: :)17:35
jdandreasirushti: So get mistral to respond to the alarm and have *it* scale up and do the template update.17:36
jdandreaIt sounds so crazy (not crazy) it just might work. ;)17:36
heatlurkerjdandrea: really ?17:36
jdandreaBasically what I was talking about before, except instead of rigging a one-off endpoint and cron, you use a service like Mistral.17:37
jdandreaheatlurker: I think it's worth a shot.17:37
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jdandreaheatlurker: See sirushti's link (above).17:37
sirushtiDisclaimer: I really don't know if it works though ;)17:37
jdandreasirushti: Fair enough. Only one way to find out! Plus you can define OS::Mistral::Workflow within Heat. :)17:38
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jdandrea... plus workflows have alarm_url attributes. Yay.17:38
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heatlurkerjdandrea: so, how exactly Mistral would do it ?17:39
ryansbnote: I might not advise creating a workflow to modify a stack inside the stack to be modified. It just sounds like a disaster recipe.17:40
jdandreaheatlurker: Not sure, but the framework appears to be there. See sirushti's aforementioned link.17:40
jdandrearyansb: Ah, so perhaps make the workflow outside of it?17:40
jdandrearyansb: Wouldn't the workflow be created and then operate outside of Heat though?17:41
jdandrearyansb: I'm thinking if you were to do a stack-update and pass in a param that effectively updated the flavor ...17:41
sirushtiryansb, ++, I find writing arbitrary workflows within a Heat template odd17:41
jdandreasirushti: Naive question. Why do we support OS::Mistral::Workflow in Heat? Isn't it for defining arbitrary workflows?17:42
jdandrea(and, for the record, yes, workflows embedded within what is otherwise a declarative template is odd to me too, just like cloud-init shell scripts embedded in a template are odd to me).17:43
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ryansbI'm saying if, in Template A, you were to define the mistral workflow along with the infrastructure you want to scale, an error in mistral could cause the workflow to issue an update that would delete the workflow17:44
ryansbwhich is...undefined behavior to say the least17:44
jdandrearyansb: Ouch. Yes, that is true.17:44
jdandreaAn error in mistral, or in a cron, or in a manual update ...17:44
jdandreaBut an error nonetheless.17:44
ryansbsirushti: I'm fine with using the mistral resource to define workflows, I just would recommend avoiding defining a workflow in a stack that is to be modified by the workflow17:44
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sirushtijdandrea, I guess, one use case would be to define policies that govern the infrastructure17:45
jdandreaUnless you're doing it manually, it's out of sight, out of mind ... and perhaps out of reality-check. <!>17:45
jdandreasirushti: Mhm.17:45
ryansbdefining workflows in a declarative template is great though, because it lets you compose complex things by abstracting them.17:45
jdandrearyansb: So workflows within a Heat template is ... ok? Not ok? Sort of ok? It depends ok? :)17:46
jdandreaMaybe "intent" matters here then.17:46
ryansbworkflows are very ok17:46
jdandreaSelf-modification could be one of those "there be dragons" issues.17:46
ryansbjust not that modify the template that defines them17:46
jdandreaBingo.17:46
jdandreaIntent.17:46
heatlurkerryansb: auto vertical scaling within the heat template17:46
jdandreaheatlurker: Aye, and it just so happens in this case that the way to do that is to modify the template that defines the workflow, and that's where things get risky (if I'm understanding ryansb correctly).17:47
ryansbI don't see why you couldn't have a workflow that modifies/updates a heat template as discussed. I just wouldn't have the workflow be a part of the template containing the stuff to be scaled17:48
jdandreaheatlurker: With the current autoscaling construct, horizontal scaling in response to an alarm does NOT result in a template change. It just creates more of the thing being scaled out.17:48
ryansbbasically, the mistral/heat idea is sound, and I like it. I'm just pointing out a specific implementation risk17:48
jdandrearyansb: Right, that's why I asked earlier if the workflow could just be defined outside of the template, would that be ok. That sounds good!17:48
ryansbyes, that'd be ok17:48
jdandreaheatlurker: There you have it. Consider checking out Mistral and setting up a workflow *independent* of the Heat template in question. I can't help with Mistral-specific stuff though, but based on the link with examples that sirushti provided earlier, it sure looks plausible.17:49
heatlurkerjdandrea: what does "defined outside of the template" mean ?17:49
jdandreaheatlurker: It means that you would take care to not define the Mistral "vertical autoscaling" Workflow within the Heat template that you're trying to scale.17:50
jdandreaYou'd use the Mistral service on its own to define it, and not use Heat (and your template) to orchestrate Mistral to create that workflow.17:50
heatlurkerjdandrea: so, a sub template ?17:50
jdandreaheatlurker: Good question, or at least a companion template. Maybe ... ?17:50
jdandreaThis is new for me as well. In cases like this, I can tell you that it sounds plausible, but the only way to really find out is to roll up your sleeves and have a go!17:51
jdandreaPerhaps others are out there wondering how to do the same thing. :)17:52
heatlurkerPerhaps17:52
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heatlurkerCan we execute stack-update within OS::Mistral::Workflow ?18:57
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jdandreaheatlurker: That's a question best posed to the Mistral folks. My *guess* is yes, based on the link to examples that sirushti provided earlier.19:04
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heatlurkerjdandrea: I was thinking: can I just have a OS::Heat::SoftwareConfig in child template that would execute a stack-update. And in the parent template, AutoScalingGroup that would call this child template which would do the scaling ?19:08
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jdandreaheatlurker: As the child template is related to the parent, per ryansb's earlier observations, I'm thinking that might be inadvisable.19:09
jdandreaheatlurker: That is to say, you could *try* ... but ... :/19:09
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Do not use VolumeTasks in AWS Instance create  https://review.openstack.org/20132120:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: tox environment for `bandit`  https://review.openstack.org/19932620:29
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/20133721:09
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Do not use VolumeTasks in AWS Instance create  https://review.openstack.org/20132122:12
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