Tuesday, 2015-10-06

asalkeldwow: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-06/world-beard-championships-2015/682964800:12
stevebakersplendid00:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Revert "Use the correct filter key in reset_stack_status"  https://review.openstack.org/23097300:27
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/23122700:28
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Do no net/subnet checks during validate  https://review.openstack.org/23126400:30
stevebakerthis ^ will need to be backported to liberty too00:30
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asalkeldstevebaker: why does that code not work? it is allowing for references00:35
asalkeldif isinstance(item, (cfn_funcs.ResourceRef, cfn_funcs.GetAtt)):00:35
asalkeld   ... bla bla00:35
asalkeld    if not is_ref:00:35
stevebakerhmm, yeah00:38
stevebakerwill play some more00:38
stevebakerasalkeld: is it because item is already resolved, so its None?00:40
asalkeldo00:40
asalkeldthat sucks00:40
asalkeldor the name of the resource :-(00:40
stevebakeryep, thats it00:42
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asalkeldstevebaker: nice work on the docs00:54
asalkeldall approved00:54
stevebakerthanks, its been bugging me forever00:54
stevebakerwe can put the developer docs in their own section now and make them nice00:55
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asalkeldyip00:56
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asalkeldyou know we should have a blueprint group review session at summit - we have heaps that need reviewing and others that are old and still up there00:59
stevebakermaybe we could set aside some of the friday meetup for that01:01
stevebakerfor the ones which didn't get dedicated sessions]01:01
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stevebakerhere are some clean cherry-picks for rc2 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:stable/liberty+topic:bug/1501828,n,z01:02
stevebakerI believe we're allowed to approve01:02
asalkeldlooking01:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Fix translating for props with get_param value  https://review.openstack.org/22313701:47
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ramishramorning all02:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix to use cache_data for FnGetRefId (1)  https://review.openstack.org/22666303:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix to use cache_data for FnGetRefId (2)  https://review.openstack.org/22879803:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix to use cache_data for FnGetRefId (3)  https://review.openstack.org/22666803:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Align the docs intro text with the old wiki page  https://review.openstack.org/23084203:22
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Try polling swift object before creating stack  https://review.openstack.org/23129504:00
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KanagarajMgood morning all !04:33
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ricolinmorning:)05:14
asalkelda *lot* of convergence tests failing :-(05:21
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Grenade: Run select heat_integrationtests instead of tempest smoke  https://review.openstack.org/20989006:58
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therveasalkeld, Hi, you still aroud? Was wondering if we could chat about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18643607:15
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asalkeldhi therve07:24
asalkeldin-out, sorting supper07:24
therveOK07:24
asalkeldbasically i think it's worth pushing the openstack-spec first07:25
therveasalkeld, So I saw you redirected Ryan to the cross project spec07:25
asalkeld(i just didn't have time for it)07:25
therveWhile there is an overlap, heat event and notifications are not exactly the same07:25
asalkeldi am not trying to do "notifications" in that cross project spec07:26
therveI feel we would actually be able to drive something if it's only in Heat, and then present an actual working solution07:26
asalkeld-107:26
asalkeldthen the cross project one happens and we have to rework07:26
therveI'm afraid we're going to waste another 6 months in endless debates07:26
asalkeldtherve: i think people were keen for that07:27
asalkeld(the cross project one)07:27
asalkeldjust needs someone full time07:27
asalkeldto push it07:27
jaosoriorDoes someone know if it's possible to use get_param for getting the filename attribute in the MultipartMime resource? Or does it behave the same as the get_file intrinsic function?07:27
therveasalkeld, That's a huge amount of work though, not sure anyone will be able to push that07:28
asalkeldthat's a sad statement :-(07:28
asalkeldi don't think it's un-doable07:28
asalkeldmuch easier than say "changing the threading model" ;)07:29
therveI don't know, I haven't really seen any cross project stuff succeed recently07:29
asalkeldpesky corporate priorities07:30
therveThat's one way to see it. Or pesky OpenStack processes07:30
asalkeldbit of both07:30
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therveI'll have a look at the cross project one and see what I can do07:34
asalkeldtherve: ping me if you need help/review07:35
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therveasalkeld, I just noticed that your spec is about adding a new service07:45
therveThe original is simply about having a format for messages07:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/23122707:50
asalkeldtherve: or agreeing on using zaqar, and the format07:51
asalkeldthat works for me07:51
therveasalkeld, So I guess I can create a new spec for the format, and we'll start from here?07:51
skraynevmorning all07:51
asalkeldtherve: make sure the scope is "events" not old school notifications07:51
therveOK07:52
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skraynevasalkeld, stevebaker: guys thank you for the all backports :) I am happy to know, that stable branches became really "stable" :)07:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Aim first doc link list at end users  https://review.openstack.org/23084308:38
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skraynevstevebaker, shardy, asalkeld, therve: Need our feedback about potential performance issues with Heat. Any thoughts welcome in this etherpad (Heat section) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-performance-issues08:42
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asalkeldskraynev: that looks like a common complaint (similar with other services) - not that that is an excuse09:17
asalkeldjust common architecture09:17
* skraynev sighs09:19
skraynevlet's add note, that it's architecture constraints :)09:19
therveasalkeld, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231382/09:20
therveskraynev, AFAIK the RPC layer is not slow09:20
therveOr at least, should not be slow09:20
skraynevtherve: typo mesage/message in commit message :)09:21
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skraynevtherve: it depends on transport service and oslo message, I suppose :)09:21
therveskraynev, No?09:22
therveThe transport service may depend on that09:22
skraynevtherve: btw it was added not by me :)09:22
therveI know09:22
therveI just don't know if we can do anything with that information09:24
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat-specs: Improves template-validate feature  https://review.openstack.org/22842509:24
skraynevI mean, that speed of RPC calls, which Heat sends depends on who handles this requests or I am wrong?09:24
skraynevtherve: just say, that in convergence, we plan to do more RPC requests ? :)09:25
skraynevramishra: I thought, that this issue was fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1503180 ? is it traceback for new/rebased patch ?09:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1503180 in heat "functional.test_autoscaling.AutoscalingGroupUpdatePolicyTest heat_integrationtests.common.exceptions.StackBuildErrorException" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi)09:26
therveskraynev, I like that the etherpad starts by saying stuff that is clearly ignored 20 lines above09:27
ramishraskraynev:  This seems like a different issue.  Different error (UPDATE in progress) which happens  during rolling update of ASG.  I've not looked at it in detail though. I'll check it and update the bug.09:31
skraynevtherve: lol. I see. it's kind of breaking phone, when one said: "let's talk about it", and another man continue: "Agree, but I have such issues" :)09:31
skraynevramishra: got it. thanks. I missed,that it's about rolling updates.09:32
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therveramishra, Around? I have a question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22438910:14
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ramishratherve: hi10:15
ramishratherve: sure10:15
therveramishra, I realize that the function is only defined in hot template?10:15
ramishrayes10:16
therveI guess we always have a hot template that point?10:16
ramishrayes10:17
ramishrafor native ASG10:17
therveYeah the version is a parameter, but never used10:18
therveramishra, I guess I would remove that parameter for clarity10:18
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therveIt'd be easier if that was a function :)10:19
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ramishraResourceDefinition is version agnostic, but it is used while building the template https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/heat/instance_group.py#L27310:21
ramishrahttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/scaling/template.py#L5910:21
ramishrait builds the template based on this template version10:21
therveAh so ultimately you'll pass the version10:22
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ramishratherve: Would appreciate, if you can find some time to review the whole series, it's been there for quite a while:)10:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Test case for resource_facade  https://review.openstack.org/21948511:18
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therveryansb, I added on you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231382/ but I realize you should probably be at least coauthor as I mostly took your work11:34
therveAt any rate interested on your feedback11:34
ryansbtherve: will review11:35
therveHope we can move that forward :/11:35
ryansbhm, I need to spin another version of the heat spec for that11:35
ryansbyeah11:35
therve*hopefully* we don't need a heat spec for the format once we have a cross project one11:37
ryansbfair enough11:37
therveWe need one for the actual implementation I guess though, the ones that uses a transport :)11:37
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openstackgerritRakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix update-replace with ip rollback  https://review.openstack.org/22832113:35
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pm90__zaneb: could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230879/4?13:48
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pm90__zaneb: thanks!13:57
zanebpm90__: np. not sure you want me to weigh in on this stuff after https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1501827 debacle this week ;)13:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1501827 in heat mitaka "Stack cleanup after dead engines is inefficient" [Medium,Invalid] - Assigned to Zane Bitter (zaneb)13:58
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openstackgerritRakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix update-replace with ip rollback  https://review.openstack.org/22832114:33
openstackgerritRakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix to persist stack status in DB  https://review.openstack.org/23150614:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Add integration tests for preview update  https://review.openstack.org/22197914:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Use rsrc_defn_from_snippet in heat AutoScalingGroup  https://review.openstack.org/22438914:50
openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: DNM: Convergence: Opportunistic Upgrade Tests  https://review.openstack.org/23029214:52
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Announce Python 3.4 support  https://review.openstack.org/23155715:53
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Correctly filter events on resource name  https://review.openstack.org/23087916:22
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Correctly filter events on resource name  https://review.openstack.org/23087916:27
pm90_therve: apologies, did you mean to approve patch set 5 or 6?16:28
thervepm90_, 6 I believe16:29
therveI noticed the last assert you added16:30
pm90_therve: right, that actually doesn't make sense since the res_name is not used in the call to index16:31
therveAh :)16:31
pm90_therve: I realized that just now. Pushing a fix :)16:32
therveOK no problem, I'll have another look after16:32
openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Correctly filter events on resource name  https://review.openstack.org/23087916:32
pm90_K, now the asserts make more sense16:32
pm90_therve: thanks!16:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-specs: Update Magnum resources  https://review.openstack.org/22970817:27
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: DNM: Convergence: Opportunistic Upgrade Tests  https://review.openstack.org/23029217:40
pm90__skraynev: hey! I don't know how the voting system works, but will https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230879/ be merged?17:42
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openstackgerritJay Dobies proposed openstack/heat-specs: Organized specs by release  https://review.openstack.org/23164618:07
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skraynevpm90__: now - yes.18:39
skraynevI waited Jenkins results18:39
pm90__skraynev: ah, I see :)18:39
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pm90__thanks18:39
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openstackgerritJay Dobies proposed openstack/heat-specs: Add template capabilities  https://review.openstack.org/19665619:20
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openstackgerritRob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Update Baymodel in Magnum resources  https://review.openstack.org/22914319:30
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stevebakermorning19:35
stevebakercould cores review this urgently? a fix will need to be backported to rc2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231264/19:36
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randallburtstevebaker:  done19:52
stevebakerrandallburt: thx19:53
randallburtnp19:53
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* jdandrea is reading http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2015/neutron_qos.2015-09-16-14.02.log.txt and reading about heat as it relates to ports/servers (starting at 14:13:05) ... confused about their view of separation of concerns.20:01
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stevebakerjdandrea: heat can only do so much when there is not even consensus on whether ports should be managed by nova or user tools20:16
jdandreastevebaker: Exactly my thinking *nod*.20:16
jdandreaThat's why I did the head tilt. :)20:17
jdandreaOk, so I'm not completely crazy. Just a little bit. *grin*20:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Try polling swift object before creating stack  https://review.openstack.org/23129522:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Make ClientPlugin.ignore_not_found a context manager  https://review.openstack.org/22660022:23
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