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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Use scaling library for RG assemble_nested https://review.openstack.org/222444 | 04:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Improve UserWarning messages https://review.openstack.org/241160 | 04:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Make nova resources available based on os-api ext https://review.openstack.org/238860 | 05:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat-specs: Update Cinder Resources https://review.openstack.org/237450 | 09:13 |
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| therve | ricolin, It's nice that you added details for the resources, but there are still very few use-cases | 09:22 |
| ricolin | therve: thanks for reveiw it :) | 09:27 |
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| therve | Well that doesn't look great though... | 09:28 |
| ricolin | therve: I'm try to add more use case now | 09:28 |
| shardy | Having a resource type like "ConsistencyGroupSnapshot" still seems wrong to me | 09:29 |
| ricolin | therve: can you tell me why we're not implement any snapshot resources? | 09:29 |
| shardy | shouldn't that be handled via stack-snapshot or something? | 09:29 |
| therve | ricolin, The fact that an API exists doesn't me that we need to have a resource for me | 09:29 |
| therve | ricolin, THere is no ServerReboot resource, because it wouldn't make sense | 09:29 |
| shardy | ricolin: resources are supposed to represent actual objects, like servers, or volumes mostly | 09:30 |
| therve | I don't think it make sense to have a Snapshot resource | 09:30 |
| shardy | so "Snapshot" isn't a very good resource type, because it's an action on a resource, not an actual resource | 09:30 |
| therve | It only have a vague utility if you pass the volume id as a parameter to your template | 09:30 |
| therve | shardy, Well there is some confusion as snapshot does backup | 09:30 |
| therve | We don't handle snapshots at all in Heat currently | 09:31 |
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| shardy | therve: Yeah I remember you had to use backup now | 09:31 |
| shardy | still, Snapshot seems an odd fit in the declarative model | 09:31 |
| therve | Yeah | 09:31 |
| shardy | hence my request for use-cases | 09:31 |
| shardy | ricolin: is this something you're actually looking to use? | 09:32 |
| therve | And snapshots are a pain in maintenance as they lock volumes | 09:32 |
| shardy | Yeah, I guess that's an argument for having them as resources tho, so the dependency is explicit | 09:32 |
| shardy | still seems odd and potentially painful tho | 09:33 |
| therve | shardy, If cinder maintained the snapshot over time, yeah | 09:34 |
| therve | But even incremental backups just match an API call, you can't say "Keep a backup of this changing volume" | 09:34 |
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| shardy | Yeah, so it's not even a persistent relationship, which again breaks the decarative model | 09:35 |
| shardy | FWIW I like the "roll back to snapshot X" approach much better, even if it does have to use backups internally | 09:36 |
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| therve | We could try to optionally have the snapshot action uses snapshots | 09:40 |
| therve | It'd have the limitation of not deleting volumes, but it'd make operations much faaster | 09:40 |
| ricolin | I'm a little confused by stack-snapshot | 09:41 |
| therve | OK, how so? | 09:42 |
| ricolin | So we can create volume snapshot through it? | 09:42 |
| shardy | therve: maybe we could select that mode when an operator specifys deletion_policy: RETAIN for volumes? | 09:42 |
| therve | shardy, That's an interesting idea | 09:43 |
| therve | ricolin, No, backups. | 09:43 |
| therve | At least currently | 09:43 |
| ricolin | then what about try to implement snapshot for stack by the stack-snapshot too? | 09:47 |
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| ricolin | or we should only use incremental backup? | 09:49 |
| ricolin | therve: I don't think that snapshot will be operate in same template as volume | 09:54 |
| ricolin | I'm more thinking maybe we can use bp/external-resource as usecase for snapshot | 09:55 |
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| therve | Okay. Maybe put that in the spec then :). | 09:57 |
| ricolin | which one :) | 09:58 |
| ricolin | snapshot for stack by the stack-snapshot | 09:58 |
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| ricolin | or snapshot | 09:58 |
| ricolin | for volume | 09:58 |
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| ricolin | therve, shardy: I think I will remove snapshot and backup from resource type spec. | 10:10 |
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| ricolin | But I do require some backup/snapshot plan that faster in time and smaller in disk. | 10:19 |
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| therve | WTH is that | 11:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Dobies proposed openstack/heat: Hook into environment merging on server https://review.openstack.org/241662 | 14:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/heat: Revert "Skip scenario test 'test_autoscaling_loadbalancer_neutron'" https://review.openstack.org/242541 | 15:29 |
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| bdossant | Hi! Is it possible to enable the admin user to show a stack from any other user? | 16:07 |
| bdossant | im trying to play with the policy.json file | 16:07 |
| bdossant | but no luck | 16:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bryan Jones proposed openstack/heat: LBaaS v2 custom constraints https://review.openstack.org/232709 | 16:32 |
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| pratikmallya | randallburt: where does heat store userdata scripts in a nova server? | 16:44 |
| randallburt | pratikmallya: heat doesn't | 16:44 |
| randallburt | pratikmallya: those get passed to nova and nova uses metadata service or config drive to mount them on the instance | 16:45 |
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| randallburt | pratikmallya: if you want to see it, you can usually look in /var/lib/cloud/instance/ (IIRC) | 16:46 |
| pratikmallya | randallburt: ah, yes I see it. Thanks! | 16:47 |
| randallburt | pratikmallya: np | 16:47 |
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| Raj | Drago: randallburt: do either of you have email that lists the process / steps for submitting openstack summit expenses | 19:55 |
| Raj | specifically for Tokyo | 19:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Add Baymodel contraint to OS::Magnum::Bay https://review.openstack.org/242623 | 20:39 |
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