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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add 'enabled' property for keystone service https://review.openstack.org/235056 | 02:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat-specs: Deprecate local environment file under etc https://review.openstack.org/241516 | 06:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Make sure update access mode for volume in available https://review.openstack.org/218567 | 06:34 |
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| skraynev | Good morning all. | 07:11 |
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| ricolin | o/ | 07:24 |
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| therve | shardy, Hi, around? I have some questions regarding update hooks | 09:33 |
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| shardy | therve: Hi! Sure | 09:39 |
| therve | shardy, So, I'm a bit puzzled with where it's placed right now | 09:39 |
| therve | shardy, It seems to trigger before we do calculation, so what happens when we have an UpdateReplace? | 09:39 |
| therve | FWIW, I'm starting to look at pre-delete hook | 09:40 |
| shardy | therve: Let me take a look, shadower implemented most of the stuff in heat, I mostly hacked on the heatclient side IIRC | 09:40 |
| therve | Sure | 09:41 |
| therve | I noticed that we make sure that pre-create is not called in case of replace | 09:41 |
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| therve | Which somewhat makes sense, but that means that there is no obvious way at pre-update to know what's going to happen, IIUC | 09:42 |
| shardy | therve: Yeah, I seem to recall discussing that but not finding the appropriate comments atm | 09:48 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146123/23 was the patch | 09:48 |
| shardy | there was also discussion of hooks that trigger pre-update and post-update, hence the current naming | 09:48 |
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| shardy | I think we decided not disinguishing between replace/in-place update was OK, in the anticipation that an replace update might also trigger delete/create hooks | 09:49 |
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| shardy | but the requirements around that were never well defined | 09:49 |
| therve | Right | 09:49 |
| therve | So currently it explicitely not trigger create after replace | 09:50 |
| therve | I wondered if the same logic should apply to delete for now | 09:50 |
| shardy | Hmm, well I guess it has to be consistent | 09:50 |
| therve | I guess | 09:51 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat-specs: Support 'Stop' deletion policy for resource https://review.openstack.org/243012 | 09:51 |
| shardy | I can imagine folks wanting to wire in a pre-delete hook for a destructive update though | 09:51 |
| therve | Yeah that's the thing, I'm not sure how we'll support that later on | 09:52 |
| shardy | therve: maybe we can work up some potential scenarios in an etherpad, and what the respective hook definition would look like? | 09:52 |
| therve | shardy, Having missed the conversation on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-heat-hooks-notifications I'd be happy if we can put more details :) | 09:52 |
| shardy | therve: sure - I don't think we covered this particular issue though | 09:54 |
| therve | Fair enough | 09:54 |
| shardy | therve: it was mostly around improving the interface, e.g something better than polling thousands of events | 09:54 |
| therve | Ah yeah. | 09:54 |
| therve | Hopefully we can move forward with my patch :) | 09:54 |
| shardy | therve: with the benefit of hindsight, discussing this would have been an excellent idea ;) | 09:54 |
| shardy | but I guess we'll have to make do with a follow-up discussion on the ML and/or via your patch | 09:55 |
| shardy | I'll give it some more thought, thanks for highlighting it | 09:55 |
| therve | No problem | 09:56 |
| therve | I'll start putting stuff in that etherpad if that's fine with you | 09:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat-specs: Add snapshot ability to stack https://review.openstack.org/243015 | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Support shares in sahara node group templates https://review.openstack.org/225446 | 10:00 |
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| therve | pre-update-create is the only OK solution I can think of right now | 10:12 |
| therve | Which may mean I need to think about it more :) | 10:12 |
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| bdossant | Hi! is it possible to enable admin operations on heat stacks? like the "heat stack-list -g" (global_index) but more like "heat stack-show" or "heat template-show" for all stacks | 10:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat-specs: pre-delete hook https://review.openstack.org/243023 | 10:24 |
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| therve | bdossant, IIRC, admin roles is global, so if you need to do a stack-show, just switch to the appriopriate tenant beforehand | 10:25 |
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| bdossant | the ideia is not to do that | 10:25 |
| therve | Why? | 10:26 |
| bdossant | i can do admin operations on nova by refering to the id | 10:26 |
| bdossant | because like that i need to add myself to the tenant | 10:26 |
| pas-ha | bdossant, IMO this is a huge hack around tenant separation other projects are doing | 10:26 |
| pas-ha | AFAIK nova already plans to move away from it | 10:27 |
| bdossant | but its useful if a user complains that a stack is not working | 10:27 |
| bdossant | i use the admin user to at least see the template | 10:27 |
| bdossant | and debug it | 10:27 |
| bdossant | instead of adding myself to that tenant | 10:28 |
| bdossant | this is more for support operations | 10:28 |
| pas-ha | having the super-global admin role with super powers kind of defeats the tenant security model | 10:28 |
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| cmyster | pas-ha: but its fun | 10:30 |
| bdossant | so what was the point of "heat stack-list -g" ? | 10:30 |
| pas-ha | to list stacks from all tenants you are registered in | 10:30 |
| bdossant | i can see the stack status but i cannot debug it | 10:30 |
| bdossant | i dont think you need to be even registered its all the stacks | 10:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat-specs: pre-delete hook https://review.openstack.org/243023 | 10:32 |
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| therve | Yeah you don't need to be in the tenants for global index | 10:36 |
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| therve | bdossant, I may be worth raising the discussion in the mailing list or the next meeting | 10:45 |
| bdossant | therve: I can send an email to the mailing list... | 10:46 |
| therve | Cool. We'll see if folks have things to say about it | 10:47 |
| bdossant | ok | 10:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add `is_public` property to Nova Flavor resource https://review.openstack.org/243048 | 11:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add floating_ip property to Nova::Server nics https://review.openstack.org/217754 | 11:53 |
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| prazumovsky | hi all! Could you review please https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217754/ | 11:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/heat: Use existing trust context if possible https://review.openstack.org/232495 | 12:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Do not resolve keystone values if it is None https://review.openstack.org/238919 | 13:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Noa Koffman proposed openstack/heat: Enable simple json format in workflow signal https://review.openstack.org/243087 | 13:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat-specs: Add snapshot ability to stack https://review.openstack.org/243015 | 13:04 |
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| therve | skraynev, Should we do some maintenance on spec status? | 13:51 |
| therve | It's unfortunate that we have several eg in libery which aren't actually in the release | 13:51 |
| therve | Or even started | 13:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Adds error_code in heat exceptions https://review.openstack.org/242031 | 14:02 |
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| skraynev | therve: hi. sounds like a nice idea for contributors, I suppose. | 14:09 |
| skraynev | therve: AFAIK, we have some specs for kilo, which have the same status | 14:09 |
| therve | Probably | 14:10 |
| skraynev | I think, that will be great to look on their real progress and make summarize in mail for openstack-dev | 14:10 |
| skraynev | and who want will grab and implement it | 14:11 |
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| skraynev | I suppose, that some of our contributors and some new contributors just have not such information and don't know what they can do for Heat | 14:12 |
| skraynev | Same for core-team members | 14:12 |
| skraynev | if you can make such revision, it will be awesome! | 14:12 |
| therve | revision? | 14:13 |
| skraynev | I mean: write a list of specs, which were not implemented :) | 14:14 |
| therve | I was more thinking we should clean up the repository itself | 14:15 |
| skraynev | therve: Oh. I thought about another less radical approach. | 14:16 |
| skraynev | how about separate section like: unimplemented specs ? | 14:17 |
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| skraynev | I suppose, if spec was merged, it means, that it's good idea, which will be good to add | 14:17 |
| therve | We could move all the non-implemented specs to a backlog directory | 14:18 |
| therve | But then we'll need to make sure they move appropriately, like a release management task or something | 14:18 |
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| skraynev | backlog directory? is it some separate directory in heat-specs repo? | 14:19 |
| skraynev | therve: yeah. if somebody start work on such spec - he should move it in in corresponding directory | 14:20 |
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| therve | skraynev, You mean "end work on such a spec" :) | 14:20 |
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| skraynev | therve: yes :) another way is to do for our specs something like for nova-specs http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/liberty/ | 14:22 |
| skraynev | I think it's more clear | 14:22 |
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| therve | Hum | 14:23 |
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| therve | skraynev, What happens if a spec approved in X lands in X+1 ? | 14:23 |
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| therve | I guess I wonder what's the point of having approved tied to a release | 14:24 |
| therve | Instead of a top-level backlog | 14:24 |
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| skraynev | first one is already used now :) | 14:26 |
| skraynev | second will be some kind of innovation | 14:26 |
| therve | I like uncharted territories | 14:27 |
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| skraynev | therve: :) | 14:28 |
| skraynev | I agree with you | 14:28 |
| skraynev | but can we then share it with whole community in openstack dev? | 14:28 |
| skraynev | I think, it is good idea for other teams too | 14:28 |
| skraynev | or we may try it first and then share feedback, when we be sure, that it works well | 14:29 |
| therve | It's not like Nova consulted us when they used that schema :) | 14:30 |
| therve | But it'd be worth mentioning in our meeting or something | 14:30 |
| therve | Don't know when's the next one | 14:31 |
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| skraynev | therve: next one will be in Wednesday 7:00 UTC | 14:34 |
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| therve | skraynev, FWIW holiday in many places | 14:35 |
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| skraynev | therve: ok. how about next week? | 14:36 |
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| therve | 20UTC is pretty crappy but we'll see | 14:37 |
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| skraynev | therve: ok. btw, I have not known about holidays for this week :( bad surprise for me | 14:41 |
| therve | skraynev, Maybe it's not too late to make it tuesday or thursday | 14:41 |
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| skraynev | therve: hm. I don't think, that it's the best time for it now... Let's leave it without any changes. (especially in case, that it's morning meeting) | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Add Baymodel contraint to OS::Magnum::Bay https://review.openstack.org/242623 | 20:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bryan Jones proposed openstack/heat: LBaaS v2 Pool Member https://review.openstack.org/241251 | 22:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Bryan Jones proposed openstack/heat: LBaaS v2 Pool https://review.openstack.org/240049 | 22:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Bryan Jones proposed openstack/heat: Add cmd_resource option to NeutronClient.resolve https://review.openstack.org/241008 | 22:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Bryan Jones proposed openstack/heat: LBaaS v2 Loadbalancer https://review.openstack.org/238612 | 22:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Bryan Jones proposed openstack/heat: LBaaS v2 Listener https://review.openstack.org/239755 | 22:30 |
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