Thursday, 2015-11-19

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zanebstevebaker: http://paste.openstack.org/show/479364/00:17
zanebstevebaker: so the test that's failing is precisely the one added in the patch00:17
zaneband where it's failing is that despite setting fail=True on the OS::Heat::TestResource, the update is succeeding00:18
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zanebwhich is a problem with the test rather than a problem with the code (although the code remains untested in Kilo until we can resolve it)00:19
stevebakerzaneb: I'm just trying to set up being able to run that locally00:19
stevebakerzaneb: does Kilo TestResource support fail?00:19
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Heat resources and tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617800:47
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Ceilometer resources and tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617600:48
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Barbican tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617700:48
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Keystone tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617300:48
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Magnum tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617200:48
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Cinder resources and tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617500:48
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Glance resources and tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617400:48
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Neutron tests  https://review.openstack.org/24616900:48
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Manila tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617100:48
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Mistral tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617000:48
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Add Resource Notifications to Heat  https://review.openstack.org/24655600:50
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Add Resource Notifications to Heat  https://review.openstack.org/24655601:11
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Add Resource Notifications to Heat  https://review.openstack.org/24655601:13
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Define engine service in setUp()  https://review.openstack.org/24344301:15
openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat-specs: Add spec for adding resource notifications  https://review.openstack.org/24483001:19
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elynnmorning :)02:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Adds keystone.region constraint  https://review.openstack.org/24201202:39
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Add Resource Notifications to Heat  https://review.openstack.org/24655602:59
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pratikmallyaIm having trouble running the heat integration tests on devstack...I consistently get an error of the form: IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmp5AHLX3'03:26
pratikmallyaanyone seen something like this?03:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Support 'multiattach' for cinder volume  https://review.openstack.org/19780403:28
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Don't to snapshot if server hasn't been created yet  https://review.openstack.org/24728103:33
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pratikma_ah, permissions error. sudo to the rescue03:56
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pratikma_is it possible to run an individual integration test instead of all the tests using tox?03:58
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lifelesspratikmallya: tox testname should do it, assuming everything is setup sanely (it may not be, of course)04:02
pratikmallyalifeless: ah, that worked...thanks!04:05
pratikmallyalifeless: I was wondering...is it possible to use testtools.run for integration tests?04:05
lifelesspratikmallya: should be04:08
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openstackgerritYingzhe Zeng proposed openstack/heat: Add a new filter config_id to deployment-list  https://review.openstack.org/24728904:11
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Add Resource Notifications to Heat  https://review.openstack.org/24655604:39
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Heat resources and tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617804:57
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Ceilometer resources and tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617604:57
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Barbican tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617704:57
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Keystone tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617304:57
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Magnum tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617204:57
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Cinder resources and tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617504:57
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Glance resources and tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617404:57
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Neutron tests  https://review.openstack.org/24616904:57
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Manila tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617104:57
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Change namespace for Mistral tests  https://review.openstack.org/24617004:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24711006:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Define engine service in setUp()  https://review.openstack.org/24344306:12
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Correct the spelling for the word constraint  https://review.openstack.org/24674006:15
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of StackNotFound.  https://review.openstack.org/24475306:52
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of PhysicalResourceNotFound  https://review.openstack.org/24475506:52
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of ResourceTypeNotFound.  https://review.openstack.org/24475406:52
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of UserKeyPairMissing  https://review.openstack.org/24731506:52
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of FlavorMissing  https://review.openstack.org/24731606:52
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of WatchRuleNotFound  https://review.openstack.org/24731706:52
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound as super class for exceptions.  https://review.openstack.org/24731806:52
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Support 'Stop' deletion policy for resource  https://review.openstack.org/24350707:13
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openstackgerritRakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix duplicate events for stack actions  https://review.openstack.org/24582208:44
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jprovaznshardy: hi08:53
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jprovaznshardy: if auto-scaling is done on AutoScalingGroup - e.g. a new node is added, this is not visible in on heat stack level? I mean neither heat state is changed to "update_in_progress" during adding a node nor SoftwareDeployments seem to be executed after a node is added08:58
jprovaznI'm trying with this template: https://github.com/jprovaznik/openshift-on-openstack/blob/autosc/openshift.yaml#L231 and I'd like to run this SW deployment when nodes are auto-scaled-up: https://github.com/jprovaznik/openshift-on-openstack/blob/autosc/openshift.yaml#L35909:00
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skraynevrakesh_hs: Hi09:10
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shardyjprovazn: Yeah, the stack inside the AutoScalingGroup goes UPDATE_IN_PROGRESS, and we add another of whatever the scaled unit is, but we don't update the parent stack automatically09:16
shardyjprovazn: We don't have a built-in way to handle that, because updates can't propagate up the tree of stacks09:17
shardyjprovazn: I suppose the missing piece is something like a mistral workflow, which is triggered to update the parent stack when the ASG changes09:18
shardyalternatively, you have to figure out a way to put everything that needs updating inside the ASG scaled unit09:18
shardyjprovazn: I assume the SoftwareDeployments not running is outside the ASG?09:18
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jprovaznshardy: yes :( - the SW deployment is in top-level stack - https://github.com/jprovaznik/openshift-on-openstack/blob/autosc/openshift.yaml#L359 , the reason is that I want to run some action on master node when list of openshift nodes changes (scales down/up)09:22
jprovaznshardy: thanks for clarification09:29
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shardyjprovazn: I thought we discussed a solution where the master node ID was passed in to the scaled unit, and the deployment was created in there?09:31
shardywas that the circular dependency problem?09:31
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shardyjprovazn: I think the problem is you have several SoftwareDeployment resources outside the ASG which should be inside the scaled unit, because the reference openshift_nodes, outputs_list09:34
shardyFor example, can you pass dns_host in to the the ASG, then run the deployment_node_hosts deployment for each node as it's built?09:34
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jprovaznshardy: the problem is that deployment_nodes_host and  deployment_run_ansible should run on the master node, I'm not sure how to pass them list of openshift_nodes if I move these deployments inside ASG09:36
jprovaznshardy: you are suggesting to do it one-by-one node?09:37
jprovaznhm09:37
shardyjprovazn: Yes, that's what I'm thinking09:37
shardyessentially that's always the way (Auto|Resource)Group scaling has to work09:37
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shardyeverything which changes or has to be run on scale in/out must be inside the scaled unit09:38
shardyso, if you passed the master node ID in to that unit, and ran a SW deployment per node which e.g dropped a file with some data somewhere, would that solve this issue?09:38
shardyIt's quite different to how TripleO does it, and it doesn't solve the problem where the cluster needs knowledge between nodes of all others09:39
shardye.g the allNodes thing in TripleO09:39
shardybut if you only have to notify a master and not all other nodes, it may work09:40
jprovaznshardy: a potential issues is that the task I run on master when openshift_nodes are updated is long-running, so ideally I'd like to run it only once. I could put each node into a file as you suggested, I wonder if there is a way how to trigger some SW deployment once all nodes are added?09:42
rakesh_hsskraynev: Hi09:43
shardyjprovazn: well, there is, but then it has to be outside the ASG so you're back to the original problem ;)09:43
shardyjprovazn: If ASG supported %index% you could pass in the count and compare the index with the count, then only run it on the last node09:44
shardybut ASG doesn't support that, and anyway I suppose on create the nodes aren't serialized so it's not reliable09:45
* shardy thinks if there's some other way09:45
jprovaznshardy: yea, I'll look at the playbook I run to see how big pain it is to run it "per each node", thanks09:46
skraynevrakesh_hs: I can not find Kanagaraj or Anant: so decided to ping you. On the yesterday's meeting we decided to make convergence job voting to the end of the next week (if test fails - it just should be skipped)09:47
skraynevrakesh_hs: so I wanted to notify you and other Hp guys about this information09:48
skraynevrakesh_hs: I personally plan to help with review for necessary patches on the next week09:48
rakesh_hsskraynev: sure. anyways we are working towards getting the gate fixed and continuously pass without any intermittent issues.09:49
rakesh_hsskraynev: sure, we will notify if any reviews require attention09:49
skraynevrakesh_hs: yeah. We just want to make sure, that no new regressions for convergence will be merged ;)09:50
rakesh_hsrakesh_hs: sure09:51
skraynevrakesh_hs: ok. thx09:51
rakesh_hsskraynev: Anant and Kanagaraj are not available today. I will notify them09:51
skraynevrakesh_hs: great!. thanks ;)09:53
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 E126 test  https://review.openstack.org/24556510:37
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 E128 test  https://review.openstack.org/24556410:37
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 E123 test  https://review.openstack.org/24556610:37
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Add senlin client  https://review.openstack.org/24077611:07
openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Add profile constraint to senlin_plugin  https://review.openstack.org/24742811:07
openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Senlin::Cluster resource  https://review.openstack.org/24742911:07
openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Senlin::Profile resource  https://review.openstack.org/24743011:07
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ochuprykovshardy: ping11:17
shardyochuprykov: Hi!11:20
ochuprykovshardy: i have apdated reauth patch, could you look at it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226384/11:21
ochuprykovupdated*11:21
ochuprykovmoved reauth conf check to service.py11:21
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shardyochuprykov: yes, sorry for the delay getting to it, been really busy with TripleO things this week11:22
ochuprykovshardy: ok, no problems11:22
shardythanks for updating it11:23
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shardyochuprykov: Looks great, exactly what I had in mind, thanks! :)11:35
ochuprykovshardy: thanks for the review!11:35
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shardyochuprykov: Ideally I'd like someone to pull/test it given that we can't really test it properly in the gate11:36
shardyochuprykov: I'll try to do that tomorrow, but +2 anyway11:36
ochuprykovshardy: ok11:36
shardyif someone else can confirm it works OK then I'm happy for it to land11:36
shardyOne possible improvement would be a unit test proving we reload the stack correctly I guess11:37
shardybut anyway, looks good, thanks for doing it11:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 H405 tests  https://review.openstack.org/24553112:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 H238 test  https://review.openstack.org/24553312:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 H202 test  https://review.openstack.org/24556012:38
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partneri am getting this with heat-manage purge_deleted -g days 20:13:11
partner2015-11-19 13:10:27.290 3935 ERROR oslo_db.sqlalchemy.exc_filters [-] DBAPIError exception wrapped from (IntegrityError) (1451, 'Cannot delete or update a parent row: a foreign key constraint fails (`heat`.`stack`, CONSTRAINT `stack_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`user_creds_id`) REFERENCES `user_creds` (`id`))') 'DELETE FROM user_creds WHERE user_creds.id = %s' (156L,)13:11
partnerkilo/centos/mariadb13:11
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partneri got some 200000+ entries on the database, was able to delete ~80k of them with heat-manage and now it fails on the above13:23
partnertotal entries on the table currently: 117327 and with status='COMPLETE' and action='DELETE' there's 117193 so 134 other entries only..13:24
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partnerany hints on what to fix the get the purge working again?13:25
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partnercan't get much debug out of the heat-manage :(13:32
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partneri wonder if its due to having user_creds_id null for some entries. 36907 with null user_creds.id and 80469 valid numeric values13:40
partnerstill not sure what to do, delete all the NULL-valued entries?13:40
partnerhmm doesn't sound good option, there are lots of such entries from today13:42
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thervepartner, Can you check the row for id 156?13:45
openstackgerritAnant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Load resource stack with correct template  https://review.openstack.org/24159813:47
therveAh13:50
thervepartner, https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/143951813:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1439518 in heat kilo "purge_deleted gives SQL integrety error" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Angus Salkeld (asalkeld)13:51
therveFixed in stable/kilo, you may be behind a bit :/13:51
partnertherve: thanks, i'll have a look. i am a bit behind with the packages :(13:52
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partnerfor the id=156 i have three different user_creds_id values, NULL, 156 and 18813:54
partneri wonder if this is due to other issues i encountered where stack was faulty and it could not be deleted13:55
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Add Resource Notifications to Heat  https://review.openstack.org/24655613:55
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partneri guess i will just upgrade the packages then to get this sorted out, thank you very much for pointing that out, failed to find the bug myself13:56
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partneri'm not sure but once i was able to purge about 100k of the items the network traffic went down quite a bit, also load on the controller / nova-api seemed to drop14:00
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partneri wonder if there was some stacks in some limbo state which kept being attempted to get deleted or something such, imo the logs earlier showed repeat activity for many things14:01
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mohankumarTeam , in need of some help14:14
mohankumarcurrently working on adding "networking-sfc"  heat support , similar to  firewall implementation "https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/neutron/firewall.py"14:14
mohankumarAs i'm new to heat , having some questions .,14:14
mohankumar[1] how to verify my changes are working ,any pointers ?14:14
mohankumar[2] Any other files on heat repo, i need to modify/add , (if possible , please give if any existing good review link which having necessary file modifications)14:14
mohankumar[3] Do i need to register new BP for this Heat support ?14:14
mohankumarPlease help with your heat expertise !14:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of StackNotFound.  https://review.openstack.org/24475314:25
pratikmallyamohankumar:  [1] You can use devstack, pull your changes on the devstack machine and try to create a stack with your resource to see if it works correctly14:27
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pratikmallyamohankumar: [2] You probably need to add/change unit tests. They are under heat/tests14:27
pratikmallyamohankumar: [3] a bp would be nice since this is neither a bug nor a refactor14:28
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24715114:36
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openstackgerritRob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Update OS::Magnum::BayModel to not require network_driver  https://review.openstack.org/24656814:38
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jprovaznshardy, hi, moving sw deployments into autoscaling group solved the issue with triggering them n update, unfortunately it raised an issue with DELETE action - if I have a sw deployment which runs an action on master node when a node from ASG is deleted, 'None' value is passed instead of its hostname14:47
jprovaznhttps://github.com/jprovaznik/openshift-on-openstack/blob/autosc1/node.yaml#L27414:47
jprovaznany idea how to pass node id/name being deleted?14:47
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shardyjprovazn: that doesn't sound right, the random_hostname_suffix get_attr should still work on DELETE14:53
jprovaznshardy, ooh, sorry, I have a wrong var nam in sw-config referenced from the sw deployment14:56
jprovazn /facepalm14:56
shardy:)14:56
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nkoffmanHi guys, I add a blueprint to change the behavior of os::mistral::workflow signal (including spec and implementation) if anyone can review it would be great. thanks (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/mistral-wf-signal-json-format)15:03
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24755915:05
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of UserKeyPairMissing  https://review.openstack.org/24731515:19
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of PhysicalResourceNotFound  https://review.openstack.org/24475515:19
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of ResourceTypeNotFound.  https://review.openstack.org/24475415:19
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound as super class for exceptions.  https://review.openstack.org/24731815:19
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of FlavorMissing  https://review.openstack.org/24731615:19
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead of WatchRuleNotFound  https://review.openstack.org/24731715:19
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: [WIP] Add basic get_reality implementation  https://review.openstack.org/24406515:22
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: [WIP] Add get_reality implementation for Server  https://review.openstack.org/24406615:22
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jdandreaFYI in case it is of help to anyone (and because heat-api is referenced in the steps to reproduce): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245303/15:23
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openstackgerritDi XiaoLi proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Clean up heatclient exceptions  https://review.openstack.org/24681215:25
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 E126 test  https://review.openstack.org/24556515:29
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 E128 test  https://review.openstack.org/24556415:29
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 E123 test  https://review.openstack.org/24556615:29
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 E713 test  https://review.openstack.org/24556115:29
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 E241 test  https://review.openstack.org/24556315:29
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Enable pep8 E265 test  https://review.openstack.org/24556215:29
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openstackgerritNoa Koffman proposed openstack/heat: Enable simple json format in workflow signal  https://review.openstack.org/24308715:37
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24755915:45
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24715115:52
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Add Resource Notifications to Heat  https://review.openstack.org/24655616:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Use attribute instead of passing parameter  https://review.openstack.org/24682317:46
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24755919:12
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jdobwhats the difference between immutable and update_allowed in the Schema class?19:31
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jasondjdob: AWS compatibility stuff http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/heat-specs/specs/implement-aws-updates-not-supported.html19:37
jasond(immutable properties)19:37
jdobah, cool, thanks jasond. will take a look19:38
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jasondjdob: np19:38
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Split abandon into pre-abandon(export) and abandon  https://review.openstack.org/18188021:01
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openstackgerritBryan Jones proposed openstack/python-heatclient: OpenstackClient plugin for stack output show  https://review.openstack.org/24779121:27
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add openstack cli stack actions  https://review.openstack.org/24780421:45
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add openstack cli stack actions  https://review.openstack.org/24780421:50
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openstackgerritBryan Jones proposed openstack/python-heatclient: OpenstackClient plugin for stack create  https://review.openstack.org/24223821:56
openstackgerritBryan Jones proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Fix error when listing stacks  https://review.openstack.org/24719621:56
openstackgerritBryan Jones proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add --dry-run option to openstack stack create  https://review.openstack.org/24428521:56
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markvangeneral question.  Many openstack CLI patches going up.  But we are currently inconsistent with support for multiple stack name/ids and --wait.22:07
markvanI think most of the commands should allow these.22:07
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24755922:53
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pratikmallyaalways a great feeling when failing functional tests finally pass22:56
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harlowjahey folks, i just wanted to let u guys know about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210549/ and maybe get your feedback on it23:25
harlowjait may or may not get into heat kind of template stuff23:25
harlowjaif so, maybe we can flush some of it out (or maybe it is heat?)23:26
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pratikmallyaharlowja: have you considered adding scheduling primitives to heat? I think that each project is perhaps best at figuring out the best way to allocate resources, given constraints. But one can possibly use heat to specify these constraints23:38
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pratikmallyanot sure if this is something already implemented though23:39
harlowjapratikmallya thats the discussion i want to have :)23:39
harlowjathere is this balance between each project and something above it23:39
harlowjathat imho we need to get better at23:39
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harlowja(maybe thats heat, idk)23:39
pratikmallyaharlowja: you might want to checkout senlin (if you haven't already). They're working on something similar and IMO have got a lot of cool stuff already https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Senlin23:40
harlowjacool didn't know about that23:40
harlowjawhere do all these projects come from!23:40
harlowjallol23:40
pratikmallyaharlowja: I don't blame ya. I heard about it completely by accident :)23:41
harlowja:)23:42
harlowjapratikmallya but i'll look that over, having an actionable plan imho here would be great23:45
harlowjaor a coordinated goal among projects23:45
harlowjawith hopefully just 1 solid direction23:45
harlowja(whether thats selin, heat, something else, idk)23:45
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