Tuesday, 2015-12-15

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kfox1111so, it looks like heat has some swift tmpurl support. can you take an existing file, and make tempurl's from it, so you can pass it into your instance for curl'ing?00:08
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stevebakerkfox1111: you would need to creat the temp url outside of heat and pass that in as a parameter. This is likely the correct solution anyway because we don't want to encourage large files passing through the heat api00:13
kfox1111yeah, was hoping I could have a way to just have a resource type of os::swift::temurl that I could give it the filename in swift, and would spit out a curlable file. seems like a lot of work to generate a tempurl outside of heat, just to use excludsively inside heat.00:15
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kfox1111conceptially very similar to OS::Heat::SwiftSignalHandle but you provide the swift file/container name, and the right things come out of curl_cli attribute.00:17
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Build list of enabled os-collect-config collectors  https://review.openstack.org/25762500:21
stevebakerkfox1111: yes, its also similar to using software_config_transport:POLL_TEMP_URL http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Nova::Server-prop-software_config_transport00:22
stevebakerkfox1111: what you really want is an OS::Swift::Object resource which can optionally create temp urls00:23
kfox1111that would work too. :)00:24
kfox1111or.... maybe its like PoolMember, CinderAttachment,00:24
kfox1111where there is one thing to create the object, but potentially multiple tempurl's.00:25
kfox1111yeah.... that would probably be closer...00:25
kfox1111say you have a autoscaling group, with nested templates, and the nested template, creates a tempurl, launches an instance, and downloads something.00:25
kfox1111that way, the tempurl woudln't expire during the instance create.00:26
stevebakerCould do that, although we tend to use very long expiry times where appropriate00:28
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kfox1111could let the user decide, as an argument to the resource type.00:54
kfox1111they could then set it relatively short, since the vm shouldn't take too long to boot and fetch files most of the time.00:55
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Provide the QoS capability for port  https://review.openstack.org/23746900:58
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Don't check existence of keystone resource for empty value  https://review.openstack.org/25467200:59
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Don't update the name of keystone resources if name don't change  https://review.openstack.org/25341301:00
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Make sure update access mode for volume in available  https://review.openstack.org/21856701:09
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Allow gateway_ip updatable for subnet  https://review.openstack.org/25013601:10
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Use ClientPlugin.ignore_not_found as a context manager  https://review.openstack.org/25100201:11
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Make SoftwareDeployment name updateable  https://review.openstack.org/25323501:12
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Remove check for managed cloud role  https://review.openstack.org/25756201:38
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed openstack/heat: Remove check for managed cloud role  https://review.openstack.org/25756201:40
randallburtpratikmallya:  jinx. Sorry I forgot to upload that patch the other day01:40
pratikmallyawhoops01:40
randallburtpratikmallya:  yeah, we did basically the same thing I just changed the names of stuff01:41
randallburtpratikmallya:  sorry btw, didn't see you online on the rax irc and didn't bother to check here to see if you were still working on stuff01:42
randallburtpratikmallya:  btw, I'm still working on the Trove update stuff in case you were picking that up too01:43
pratikmallyarandallburt: no worries. Just make sure to edit the commit message, jasond wasn't happy with it :)01:43
randallburtpratikmallya:  I didn't see anything wrong with it. will double check01:43
pratikmallyarandallburt: that's ok. Im not working on that01:43
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Add Image/Flavor Constraint to Rackspace Server  https://review.openstack.org/25441301:52
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pratikmallyarandallburt: hey, jason proposed using heat-pyrax as the sdk for talking to rackspace resources https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256738/. Do you think its a good idea?02:00
randallburtpratikmallya:  looking02:00
randallburtpratikmallya:  oh, yeah. that's valid. I think we already do that in our internal build so it should be corrected upstream as well.02:01
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randallburtpratikmallya:  that being said, I don't think we should have to change the resource at all. I think we can detect the difference in pyrax and not have to change the resource at all.02:03
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randallburtpratikmallya:  I'll comment on the review02:03
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pratikmallyarandallburt: ok. I don't think he was suggesting changing the resource btw. Just changing the requirements02:03
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randallburtpratikmallya:  right, he wasn't. I'm questioning if we have to change the resource at all. The client library should "do the right thing" IMO. So I think the patch should just be updating the dependency and removing the requirement for port on the lb config so that it works with RackConnect02:04
pratikmallyarandallburt: the question I always think about is whether we want to catch a problem in the template before the stack creation starts (i.e. before creation of other resources). With the validation logic, we prevent this from happening. i.e. the user is warned that the template needs to be changed, immediately02:07
randallburtpratikmallya:  which we can do in validate, but if its a link to a resource in the template, we're boned either way02:07
randallburtpratikmallya:  because you can't validate that its a valid LB or RCv3 Pool until those are created, right?02:08
randallburtpratikmallya:  you could do something sophisticated in validate and say if the port isn't provided, then the lb id must be a valid pool (since users can't create those themselves anyway).02:09
pratikmallyarandallburt: well, technically we can make a call to get a list of available rcv3 lb pool ids and check against that. It was what I was hoping to do if we have rcv3 client02:09
pratikmallyaprecisely02:09
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Fixes the error logic in resource_data_get_all()  https://review.openstack.org/25534702:09
randallburtpratikmallya:  just to be clear, I agree with your assertion that validate early is best02:09
randallburtpratikmallya:  cool, so for this patch, update the dependency, make port optional, and update validate to check for a pool if port is not specified.02:10
randallburtpratikmallya:  sound good?02:10
pratikmallyarandallburt: yep02:10
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Fix port handle_update to use prop_diff  https://review.openstack.org/25632803:13
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Don't call neutron when there is no prop_diff  https://review.openstack.org/25176203:13
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Fix OS::Neutron:Net handle_update  https://review.openstack.org/25515803:13
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Fix provider_net resource update  https://review.openstack.org/25219203:13
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Make value_specs updatable for firewall resource  https://review.openstack.org/25215903:13
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Add multi-version supportability in client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/25544303:17
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Adds tag support for glance image resource plugin  https://review.openstack.org/25544403:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Provide the QoS capability for port  https://review.openstack.org/23746903:38
devkulkarnihello heat team, I am encountering following error while executing stack.sh http://paste.openstack.org/show/481907/ (cannot open file /opt/stack/heat/setup.cfg) .. any suggestions on how to resolve this?03:40
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devkulkarninm for some reason heat repo was not cloned03:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Fixes the error logic in resource_data_get_all()  https://review.openstack.org/25534704:09
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Adds ignore_errors for template_validate REST API  https://review.openstack.org/24687004:35
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Adds ignore_errors for template_validate in engine  https://review.openstack.org/24686904:35
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: heat-manage resource_data_list  https://review.openstack.org/25534804:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Make SoftwareDeployment name updateable  https://review.openstack.org/25323505:21
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Add neutron provider constraints  https://review.openstack.org/25332705:40
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Fix AWS::EC2::SecurityGroup update problem  https://review.openstack.org/25460905:41
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openstackgerritUkesh Kumar proposed openstack/heat: Add support for 'binding:profile' property in heat template  https://review.openstack.org/24452906:21
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Unify workers options for API services  https://review.openstack.org/25472806:40
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Fix race condition for WaitCondition with several signals  https://review.openstack.org/23212406:40
openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Senlin::Cluster resource  https://review.openstack.org/24742906:41
skraynevmorning all06:44
skraynevramishra_: ping06:44
skraynevramishra: is it finished https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/subnet-pools ? if yes, could you please update status of BP06:45
ramishra_skraynev:  thanks for reminding06:46
skraynevramishra_: np ;)06:46
openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Senlin::Profile resource  https://review.openstack.org/24743006:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Make value_specs updatable for firewall resource  https://review.openstack.org/25215907:43
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pas-hamorning all07:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: heat-manage resource_data_list  https://review.openstack.org/25534808:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Add neutron provider constraints  https://review.openstack.org/25332708:14
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skraynevramishra_: tiantian: I forgot to remind you about one important thing :) Could each of you please propose one patch to release notes for our reno with information about last merged BPs. Subnetpool and QOS.08:52
skraynevmore information how to do it is available here http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/08:52
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skraynevramishra_: tiantian: and corresponding example: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/releasenotes/notes/compute_upgrade_levels_auto-97acebc7b45b76df.yaml08:53
ramishra_skraynev: sure08:54
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tiantianskraynev, ok, thanks08:55
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Senlin::Cluster resource  https://review.openstack.org/24742909:18
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Senlin::Profile resource  https://review.openstack.org/24743009:24
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openstackgerritDi XiaoLi proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Neutron::RBACPolicy resource  https://review.openstack.org/25572009:31
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openstackgerritDi XiaoLi proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Neutron::RBACPolicy resource  https://review.openstack.org/25572009:36
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add release note for bp/support-neutron-qos  https://review.openstack.org/25777809:51
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add release note for bp/support-neutron-qos  https://review.openstack.org/25777809:54
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add release note for bp/support-neutron-qos  https://review.openstack.org/25777809:55
openstackgerritRakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Flag to observe live state for resources  https://review.openstack.org/25080509:56
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Neutron port, tolerate switching network name/id  https://review.openstack.org/25758110:04
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shardytiantian: ^^ Hi!  I reworked that to be a little more generic, and tagged it Partial-Bug #151468010:11
openstackbug 1514680 in heat "No need to update resource if property is the same " [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514680 - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy)10:11
shardyI'm happy to consider other approaches, but that seemed like a reasonable first step, and can potentially work in a similar way for other resources (at least the Neutron ones)10:12
tiantianshardy, sure10:13
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tiantianshardy, I am thinking whether we should propose a spec for this:) I have registed one, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/improve-diff-properties-validation, but still no good way till now :)10:17
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tiantianshardy, maybe we can provide a method such as translate_to_id() for properties of resources which can be name or id, and call the method in resource.update_template_diff_properties(), just an initial idea10:20
tiantianshardy, time to go home, maybe talk tomorrow:)10:21
shardytiantian: sure, we can discuss on the review, thanks!10:21
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add note for subnet pool support  https://review.openstack.org/25781910:44
therveshardy, Hey, do you have 5 to talk about the purge query patch?10:48
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shardytherve: Hi! sure10:48
therveshardy, So I ended up adding another test because I found an issue with stack tags10:48
therveBut those tests don't work when run concurrently10:48
therveshardy, So I guess I'll end up making the asserts in the same test, wdyt?10:49
shardytherve: what's the issue with the tags test - it's checking for a deleted stack?10:50
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shardytherve: or do you mean we need to test several scenarios around purge_deleted?10:51
shardyif it's the latter I think it's fine to combine into one big test10:51
skraynevcmyster: hi. could you please take a look my last comment for patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252201/810:53
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skraynevcmyster: I want to get feedback about proposed changes in behavior.10:54
therveshardy, The latter10:54
shardytherve: cool, IMO it's fine to have one big test as I can't see any way we can reasonably run them concurrently10:54
cmysterskraynev: ack10:55
therveshardy, Great, thanks10:55
cmysterskraynev: what change in specific ?10:57
skraynevcmyster: which I demonstrated in "paste" link10:58
openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Fix database purge query  https://review.openstack.org/25532810:58
skraynevcmyster: i.e. raising different errors in some different situations, which depends on values of request body and template size10:59
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openstackgerritLimor Stotland proposed openstack/heat: Enable simple json format in workflow signal  https://review.openstack.org/24308711:11
openstackgerritLimor Stotland proposed openstack/heat: Enable simple json format in workflow signal  https://review.openstack.org/25783511:13
cmysterskraynev: looking at it, I'll comment in a few (in the middle of something)11:14
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skraynevcmyster: ok. but mostly you are or not?11:16
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openstackgerritLimor Stotland proposed openstack/heat: Enable simple json format in workflow signal  https://review.openstack.org/24308711:18
cmysterskraynev: yes, but I need to draw it on a wall to make sure :)11:18
skraynevcmyster: sure. thx11:20
cmysterskraynev: if both json and template exceed size limit, which error will show first? json size limit or template size limit?11:22
skraynevcmyster: Json, because message will be handled by wsgi first11:24
skraynevif body size is ok - next check will be for template size11:24
cmysterright, thanks11:24
skraynevcmyster: np ;)11:26
skraynevshardy: could you also add functional test for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257581 as follow up patch (I don't want to block current patch)11:27
skraynevshardy: I suppose, that it may be a good additional for https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat_integrationtests/functional/test_create_update_neutron_port.py11:27
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cmysterskraynev: I added my 2 cents, what do you think ?11:36
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shardyskraynev: sure, I did consider it, but it seemed to duplicate what's tested in the unit test11:36
shardyif you'd like a functional test as well, I'm happy to provide one11:36
skraynevcmyster: yeah. I meant something like that, but will be also good to reference on some property name, because it will be difficult to understand which limit we exceed.11:37
cmysterskraynev: Of course, the format of the errors is up to the assignee. I think that this way its pretty short and clear11:39
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skraynevshardy: I just like functional tests, because they sometime catch regressions better. p.s. it does not mean, that unittests are worse. it's just different. Also Imo it will be good feedback/check when some general approach will be applied for mentioned in the bug issue.11:40
skraynevcmyster: but not so clear in case of which limit we should change for deployment, IMO ;)11:41
shardyskraynev: Ok, I'll look at posting one later, thanks!11:42
skraynevshardy: np. thank you11:42
cmysterskraynev: so you want to add the name of the parameter here as well ? I think its obvious from the type of the error, but adding the exact name of the parameter can help as well11:50
cmysteras I said as long as its kept short and simple I'm ok with it11:50
skraynevOoops11:51
skraynevcmyster: Yeah. thank you for pointing again.11:51
skraynevI trivially missed start of error message11:52
skraynevwait a sec11:52
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add note for subnet pool support  https://review.openstack.org/25781911:54
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al_indigoHello guys! I am trying to deploy heat+sahara and noticed that virtual machines are trying to use ip address of Heat directly. I don't want to push it to internet (but we have such an option). Is there a way to use Heat internally without actual public address and without ruining the isolation of virtual networks?12:07
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/python-heatclient: WIP stack resource search  https://review.openstack.org/25786412:08
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: WIP stack resource search  https://review.openstack.org/25786512:09
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al_indigoHello guys! I'm trying to deploy Sahara with Heat and I have noticed that instances are trying to go to Heat directly. I do not want to show Heat in public network at all. How could I make it work without breaking virtual networks isolation? (using Sahara without Heat is not an option)12:26
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therveal_indigo, Do you know how Sahara is using heat? IE what is talking back?12:35
therveI guess it doesn't matter12:37
therveal_indigo, The alternative is to have swift exposed to your instance.12:37
therveWe can use that as a signal transport12:37
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al_indigoIt's used during initialization for CDH12:53
al_indigoThe step in the middle of cloud-init12:54
al_indigoSo Swift may be not an option12:54
al_indigobecause it tries to talk with cloudwatch12:54
therve?12:55
therveYou mean cloudformation right?12:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Neutron port, tolerate switching network name/id  https://review.openstack.org/25758113:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Flag to observe live state for resources  https://review.openstack.org/25080513:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Remove unused argument 'current_version'  https://review.openstack.org/25599313:08
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Restrict update/replace of resource  https://review.openstack.org/25307413:16
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al_indigoexcuse me for delays13:49
al_indigoyes, i mean cloudformation13:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Add note for subnet pool support  https://review.openstack.org/25781913:50
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gmorohello all14:02
gmoroanyone with experience/suggestion regarding creating a blue/green deployment using HEAT?14:02
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therveal_indigo, So what I'm saying is you can use swift instead of cloudformation14:10
thervegmoro, What's that?14:11
gmorohttp://martinfowler.com/bliki/BlueGreenDeployment.html14:11
gmorotherve, ^14:11
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therveOkay14:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Stop ignore skipped crypt_operation option  https://review.openstack.org/25599414:13
al_indigotherve, thanks, I'll try when we will deploy swift14:14
jdobshardy: any disagreement with me splitting that nested validation bug into three separate bugs based off your three bulleted points?14:29
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shardyjdob: You can, although would it be simpler to have one bug and three patches?14:33
shardyjdob: I'd normally just do Partial-Bug: #n for each related but logically separate part14:33
shardyif you feel it warrants separate bugs feel free tho14:33
jdobit's less about the git tracking of it than the actual bug tracking; they are pretty much three different issues14:33
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jdobthough that may be the red hat in me viewing them so discretely14:34
shardyjdob: heh, your call - personally I'd leave the context in one place and just break up the patches14:36
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openstackgerritJay Dobies proposed openstack/heat: Fix resource definition loading in resource groups  https://review.openstack.org/25792814:46
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stevebx64Hi all. Quick question, I have a stack create that's failing due to timeout on OS::Heat:SoftwareDeployment. The VM is created and can ping external (such as www.google.com), but cannot ping the heat-api server directly. Is this expected?15:28
stevebx64I tried making a curl request to the URL for 'deploy_signal_id' for the failing resource, for which I go 'Connection timed out' in response15:29
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openstackgerritOleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Resolve outputs from stack object  https://review.openstack.org/25796315:43
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: wip  https://review.openstack.org/25796515:45
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Neutron port allow switching between network_id and network  https://review.openstack.org/25796615:45
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Neutron port allow switching between network_id and network  https://review.openstack.org/25796615:46
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Immutable parameters  https://review.openstack.org/25687216:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Remove check for managed cloud role  https://review.openstack.org/25756216:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Remove check for managed cloud role  https://review.openstack.org/25756216:15
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25648018:12
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25715818:16
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25648018:39
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jdobshardy: ping19:13
shardyjdob: Hey19:13
jdobhey, question about your comment19:13
jdobbackward compatibility in what sense19:14
jdobthat the new client can connect to old heat?19:14
shardyjdob: Yeah, historically we've always supported older versions19:14
shardyjdob: the client stable branch is a new thing, and there's a spec about going back to backwards-compatible all-the-things:19:14
jdobinteresting, I hadn't considered that; how far disjoint are they supposed to be able to support?19:15
shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/19:15
jdoblike, M client connecting to J server?19:15
* jdob looking19:15
shardyjdob: all non-EOL upstream versions19:15
jdobinteresting19:15
shardyjdob: that said, there are liberty and kilo branches, so maybe run it past stevebaker and see what he thinks19:16
shardyhe's handling the pypi releases etc mostly19:16
shardymy main concern is if folks install from pypi, are they broken for all released versions of heat19:16
jdobhas there been any sort of precedent for this in the past? APIs change between versions, so we'd likely have other issues like this, no?19:17
shardyjdob: Not that many because we've never rev'd the API, but there are a few gross hacks in there due to supporting older versions19:17
jdobis there a way to query the server to find out what version it is?19:18
jdobthough that feels like it could qualify under "gross hacks" :)19:18
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shardyjdob: That's one problem related to never reving the API, yes, you can query the version, but it tells you "v1"19:19
shardy;)19:19
jdobah, shit, right19:19
shardyideally we need microversions or something to enable detecting forwards compatibility19:19
stevebakerschool run, back in a bit19:19
shardybut we (like many other projects) haven't done that19:19
shardyyet..19:19
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jdobok, so to address your comment, i'm looking at something hacky in the short term19:19
jdoblike try the call, see if there's an error about not supporting that parameter, and then reverting back to old school client-side mashing?19:20
shardyjdob: Yeah, something like that19:20
jdobok, i'll add it to my todo list19:20
shardyjdob: Chat with stevebaker when he gets back tho, as he may have a different perspective re the stable branches19:21
jdobkk19:21
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jasond`is it valid to update a stack with a different template version?19:24
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openstackgerritBryan Jones proposed openstack/heat: LBaaS v2 Pool Member  https://review.openstack.org/24125120:24
openstackgerritBryan Jones proposed openstack/heat: LBaaS v2 Pool  https://review.openstack.org/24004920:24
openstackgerritBryan Jones proposed openstack/heat: LBaas v2 HealthMonitor  https://review.openstack.org/24528720:24
openstackgerritBryan Jones proposed openstack/heat: LBaaS v2 Loadbalancer  https://review.openstack.org/23861220:24
openstackgerritBryan Jones proposed openstack/heat: LBaaS v2 Listener  https://review.openstack.org/23975520:24
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openstackgerritJay Dobies proposed openstack/heat: Added ResourceChain plugin  https://review.openstack.org/25001021:18
openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Add Image/Flavor Constraint to Rackspace Server  https://review.openstack.org/25441321:22
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