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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat: remove warnings in heat https://review.openstack.org/267269 | 01:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Attempt to delete internal resources if create server fail https://review.openstack.org/268956 | 01:16 |
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| jlk | Hey all, running into something with Heat on Kilo. We're the provider. A user is doing some heat stack creations, and running awry of some keystone middleware we have. Our middleware checks password complexity for users, and it appears their heat stack is causing users to be created in Keystone. | 01:39 |
| jlk | I'm trying to figure out in what scenarios keystone users get created from heat templates (which don't explicitly create any users), and where passwords for these users come from | 01:39 |
| Qiming | jlk, not 100% sure, but it is highly likely that the new users are created as stack users | 01:40 |
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| jlk | yeah, I'm pretty sure these are heat stack domain users that are getting created, and I'm thinking you get one for every stack, automatically | 01:42 |
| Qiming | jlk, check this link: http://hardysteven.blogspot.com/2014/04/heat-auth-model-updates-part-2-stack.html | 01:42 |
| jlk | or if OS::Nova::Server is used | 01:43 |
| jlk | yes, that's been read :) | 01:43 |
| jlk | so the odd thign is, it doesn't fail the complexity test every time | 01:43 |
| jlk | so I /think/ that there is something doing a random password for the keystone user creation | 01:43 |
| jlk | but I can't confirm that in the code | 01:43 |
| Qiming | so ... it is not reproducible ? :) | 01:43 |
| jlk | it is, just not 100% of the time | 01:43 |
| Qiming | okay | 01:43 |
| Qiming | jlk, mind file a bug for this? | 01:46 |
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| jlk | I'm not sure it's a bug, or at least not a bug in heat, more of our incomplete understanding of what heat does as part of normal operation | 01:46 |
| jlk | We can certainly modify our password complexity checker to avoid checking heat domain users, but I want to understand what the "normal operation" is here | 01:47 |
| jlk | if they're actually randomized passwords somewhere. | 01:47 |
| jlk | that's what it "feels" like, why some would succeed and some would not, but it could have to do with what the customer is doing | 01:47 |
| Qiming | a quick check of the source | 01:49 |
| Qiming | it seems that sometimes heat may choose to use the admin_pass provided for the Server resource | 01:49 |
| Qiming | sometimes it will use something like this: self.password = uuid.uuid4().hex | 01:50 |
| jlk | that's what I found too. | 01:50 |
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| jlk | Could you confirm that every call to create a Nova Server would cause the creation of a stack domain user? | 01:54 |
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| Qiming | jlk, I'm not sure | 02:00 |
| Qiming | but if you are using software configs | 02:00 |
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| Qiming | it will always get created | 02:00 |
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| jlk | what does that look like in a template? I'm very novice to Heat, but I have my customer's templates | 02:01 |
| jlk | oh, OS::Heat::SoftwareConfig | 02:01 |
| Qiming | yes | 02:04 |
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| stevebaker | jlk: there are a few resources which create users. maybe you can disable the password check for the heat domain, since it that domain only ever has non-human users in it | 02:05 |
| stevebaker | jlk: alternatively, since heat passwords are failing that could be a good indication that your checker isn't very good at detecting entropy - and may even be encouraging your users to create crumby passwords, but I digress ... ;) | 02:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat: JSON size violation gives a bad error with nested templates https://review.openstack.org/252201 | 02:11 |
| jlk | stevebaker: oh there is no question that our password checker is bullshit. It's a corporate policy thing. ENTERPRISE! | 02:12 |
| stevebaker | heh | 02:13 |
| jlk | stevebaker: and I may be using this as even more reason to roll it back | 02:13 |
| stevebaker | good luck | 02:13 |
| jlk | but I want to know why heat is tripping it up, if Heat is doing random passwords for these users | 02:13 |
| stevebaker | yes, its random passwords | 02:13 |
| jlk | they are using SoftwareConfig, which would generate a user, so that bit of the mystery is solved, the next bit is the content for the password | 02:13 |
| jlk | is it that string we found, uuid.hex ? | 02:13 |
| stevebaker | let me check | 02:14 |
| stevebaker | jlk: yep, all I see is uuid.uuid4().hex | 02:18 |
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| jlk | huh, I don't see how that would ever return anything with a uppercase letter | 02:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Include keystone message when authentication failed https://review.openstack.org/267674 | 02:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Don't check existence of keystone resource for empty value https://review.openstack.org/254672 | 03:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | javeme proposed openstack/heat: deprecate module heat.api.middleware.ssl https://review.openstack.org/258311 | 05:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Use reauth context instead of stored context if enable reauth https://review.openstack.org/269456 | 07:07 |
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| skraynev | morning all | 08:29 |
| skraynev | therve: I have replied on your comments. Looks like there is one comment, which make sense - mentioned by Randall | 08:30 |
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| therve | skraynev, Yeah | 08:34 |
| skraynev | therve: thank you for understanding. | 08:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Unify workers options for API services https://review.openstack.org/254728 | 08:44 |
| therve | skraynev, https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/doc/source/target.rst#target-versions | 08:46 |
| therve | Got the definitive clear answer :) | 08:46 |
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| skraynev | thereve: and it looks like we need to bump minor version, what Randall suggested. | 08:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Provide software deployment id on create https://review.openstack.org/265714 | 09:03 |
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| skraynev | elynn: hi. around? | 09:09 |
| prazumovsky | hello all! Could you kindly review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264906/ (it's just adding docstrings to resource plugins). Sorry for ad:) | 09:10 |
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| elynn | skraynev: Hi | 09:39 |
| skraynev | elynn: wanted to ask you about fix for unicode names | 09:40 |
| skraynev | I have seen, that zaneb left several comments, so do you plan to resolve it soon or may be will be better to move bug to m3? | 09:40 |
| elynn | skraynev: yes, I saw zaneb's comments but I haven't got hands on it. | 09:40 |
| skraynev | elynn: so m3 is ok for you? | 09:41 |
| elynn | If it's not blocking , I will solve it at m3 | 09:41 |
| elynn | thanks skraynev. | 09:41 |
| skraynev | elynn: yes. it's not real blocker and I suppose, we may move to m3 it | 09:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Refactor get_live_state using during update https://review.openstack.org/264861 | 09:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Di XiaoLi proposed openstack/heat: Replace the word "printf'd" with "formatted" https://review.openstack.org/268760 | 10:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleg Khavroshin proposed openstack/heat: Edit backslashes for lines continuation https://review.openstack.org/266384 | 10:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: vpnservice.py get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/266910 | 10:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Cinder::VolumeType get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/250451 | 11:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Cinder::VolumeType get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/250451 | 11:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: EncryptedVolumeType get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/250666 | 11:44 |
| dgonzalez | Hi all, i would appreciate it if somebody could have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248011/. Its a small senario test for multi-region deployments | 11:44 |
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| novegin | hi folks, if i have stack of 10 vms, how to do stack update for one of the vm(change image) | 11:53 |
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| novegin | without affecting other 9 vms | 11:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: EncryptedVolumeType get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/250666 | 11:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Barbican::Order get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/252976 | 11:59 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/269319 | 12:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/268510 | 12:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhaozhilong proposed openstack/heat: On branch bug/1535051 Changes to be committed: https://review.openstack.org/269589 | 12:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhaozhilong proposed openstack/heat: On branch bug1507502 Changes to be committed: https://review.openstack.org/269598 | 12:39 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: I have looked on the queue https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-heatclient+status:open+-topic:bp/heat-support-python-openstackclient looks like we can introduce 0.9.0 tomorrow (after meeting) I plan to upload patch with skipping ocs registration today later. so when it land I will point his sha1 in commit to releases repo. do you have any objections? | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Load template files only from their known source https://review.openstack.org/269689 | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Make ASG resource work when no lb is specified https://review.openstack.org/269718 | 15:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Make ASG resource work when no lb is specified https://review.openstack.org/269718 | 16:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nanke_Liu (lnk) proposed openstack/heat: Remove openstack-common.conf https://review.openstack.org/264608 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/heat: Add default values for bit_length and alorithm prop https://review.openstack.org/269737 | 16:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/269319 | 16:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/heat: Add default values for bit_length and algorithm prop https://review.openstack.org/269737 | 16:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Drago proposed openstack/heat: Add Rackspace::Cloud::LBNode https://review.openstack.org/268400 | 18:09 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: sounds good. You could do a 2 patch series which skip then unskip ocs registration | 19:36 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: I should be able to do a 0.8.1 today | 19:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Make ASG resource work when no lb is specified https://review.openstack.org/269718 | 19:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Make ASG resource work when no lb is specified https://review.openstack.org/269718 | 20:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Cinder::Volume get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/261445 | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Dobies proposed openstack/heat: Add environment retrieval API https://review.openstack.org/269851 | 20:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Push deployments metadata on delete https://review.openstack.org/254433 | 20:33 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: awesome. I also plan to release m-2 tomorrow (after meeting) and I already uploaded patch for 5.01 | 20:41 |
| skraynev | stevebaker, zaneb: https://review.openstack.org/269856 | 20:42 |
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| zaneb | skraynev: great! +1'd thank you | 20:44 |
| skraynev | zaneb: thank you and stevebaker for the help ;) | 20:45 |
| stevebaker | no problem | 20:45 |
| skraynev | FYI: there are three fix for bugs are on review for m-2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258311/ , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265714/5 , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259657/ | 20:45 |
| skraynev | stevebaker ^ | 20:46 |
| skraynev | so if somebody has a power for review, please do it ;) | 20:46 |
| stevebaker | looking | 20:46 |
| skraynev | stevebaker, zaneb: another important thing. Probably you will not attend to the tommorrow meeting (so, please take a look on it ) | 20:49 |
| skraynev | http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/cross-project.html#cross-project-specification-liaisons | 20:49 |
| skraynev | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Cross-Project_Spec_Liaisons | 20:49 |
| skraynev | probably we need to find volunteer for this role | 20:50 |
| skraynev | in future of course | 20:50 |
| stevebaker | sure | 20:51 |
| skraynev | Go to sleep. Good day/night all :) | 20:52 |
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| zaneb | dammit, stevebaker you just +A'd that patch as I was in the middle of -1'ing it | 20:56 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: lol, which? will unapprove | 20:57 |
| zaneb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258311/7 | 20:57 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: I thought we treated api-paste.ini as a source file, not configuration. So downstream can simply distrubute the changed api-paste.ini | 20:59 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: hmm, that's possible. it's still a problem for any user with a custom pipeline though isn't it | 21:03 |
| zaneb | the change just seem gratuitous | 21:04 |
| zaneb | it could easily be done in such a way that that could never become an issue | 21:04 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: can't they just keep using their custom pipeline until they are ready to change? then they can use the distributed api-paste.ini as a reference for changes | 21:05 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: that was your way of volunteering to be assigned whatever director bugs this causes, right? ;) | 21:07 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: also I wonder if anyone ever used the ssl middleware in production, or do they use their own ssl proxies | 21:07 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: sure thing! (screw you, future Steve) | 21:10 |
| zaneb | "also I wonder if anyone ever used the ssl middleware in production" <- so you're suggesting that substantially everyone will have customised this file? | 21:12 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: I just don't understand why we would make a change we think/hope won't cause trouble, when we could just as easily commit a change that we *know* won't. if it were way harder to do it the other way then I might feel differently, but it doesn't look to be | 21:13 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: ok, looking at ssl vs http_proxy_to_wsgi, the latter looks like a drop-in replacement for the former. They just handle any HTTP_X_FORWARDED_PROTO header (except http_proxy_to_wsgi looks more complete and correct) | 21:18 |
| stevebaker | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.middleware/blob/master/oslo_middleware/http_proxy_to_wsgi.py | 21:18 |
| stevebaker | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.middleware/blob/master/oslo_middleware/ssl.py | 21:18 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: Also my understanding is that api-paste.ini is completely self-contained. The only thing which refers to line 81 is the pipelines in lines 14,4 | 21:19 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: so I don't understand your concern, the vast majority of deployments use the distributed api-paste.ini, which will switch to the new pipeline automatically, custom api-paste.ini will continue to work because it is self contained, and even if the old api-paste.ini remains after an upgrade it will continue to work until we delete heat/api/middleware/ssl.py | 21:21 |
| zaneb | ok, I guess that's true | 21:22 |
| zaneb | but api-paste.ini didn't reference oslo_middleware before, so why should it now? | 21:23 |
| zaneb | if it's a drop-in replacement, why not drop it in behind the existing abstraction? | 21:23 |
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| zaneb | (i.e. heat.api.middleware.ssl) | 21:23 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: ok, removed the -1 | 21:27 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: I don't think heat.api.middleware.ssl is an abstraction, it is copypasted middleware which predates the lib oslo_middleware *and* oslo-incubator | 21:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Dobies proposed openstack/heat: Add environment retrieval API https://review.openstack.org/269851 | 21:33 |
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| dgonzalez | Hi all, if somebody has some time to spare, i would appreciate it if you could take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248011/. Its a small scenario test for multi-region deployments | 21:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Support neutron address scope https://review.openstack.org/259261 | 21:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: deprecate module heat.api.middleware.ssl https://review.openstack.org/258311 | 21:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Provide software deployment id on create https://review.openstack.org/265714 | 22:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Replace the word "printf'd" with "formatted" https://review.openstack.org/268760 | 22:10 |
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| cwolferh | Anything need to be done to help https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254351/ get merged? | 22:49 |
| stevebaker | cwolferh: hmm, this would break any existing scripts that delete stacks. | 22:52 |
| cwolferh | stevebaker, if the scripts use a tty, that's true | 22:52 |
| cwolferh | for scripts that use a tty, they could add -y to skip the prompt | 22:53 |
| cwolferh | i'm thinking most scripts aren't actually going to pass the isatty() check though | 22:53 |
| stevebaker | cwolferh: also we have a soft freeze on changes to heat commands so that features can go into the osc plugins. I'd be happy for this to happen to "openstack stack delete" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242302/ | 22:54 |
| stevebaker | cwolferh: maybe Amey wouldn't mind if you took over the change to implement "openstack stack delete" | 22:58 |
| stevebaker | cwolferh: also considering this is for tripleo, maybe we should add an overcloud delete command, which does have a prompt. Then tripleo docs can just document that as the recommended way of deleting an overcloud | 22:59 |
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| stevebaker | cwolferh: but let me have some lunch and have a play with isatty | 23:00 |
| cwolferh | stevebaker, cool, thanks for the thoughts :-) | 23:00 |
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