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| zaneb | stevebaker: bikeshed away. as long as it makes sense in the context of what it actually does, I'm finding it hard to care that much | 01:35 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: ok, my only care is that something we're happy to live with makes it into 1.0.0 | 01:35 |
| zaneb | +1 | 01:36 |
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| elynn | Morning | 02:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Di XiaoLi proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add OSC plugin for openstack orchestation build info https://review.openstack.org/285903 | 02:31 |
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| ramishra | morning all | 03:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Add OSC plugin for openstack orchestation build info https://review.openstack.org/285903 | 04:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Add OSC plugin for stack resource mark unhealthy https://review.openstack.org/285944 | 05:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: [DNM] Test for ceilometer issue https://review.openstack.org/286386 | 05:18 |
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| skraynev | morning all | 06:31 |
| skraynev | ramishra: hi. does our gate work ? I just try to understand elynn 's comment for my patch | 06:32 |
| elynn | Yes | 06:32 |
| elynn | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1551383 | 06:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1551383 in heat "lbaas1 gates failed on master" [Critical,Triaged] | 06:32 |
| skraynev | elynn: hi. | 06:32 |
| elynn | Seems related to ceilometer. ramishra is working on it. | 06:33 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: elynn: oh. aodh again prohibited creation for users... | 06:33 |
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| ramishra | skyes, the fix has worked https://review.openstack.org/286386 | 06:34 |
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| ramishra | skraynev: yes the fix has worked https://review.openstack.org/286386 | 06:34 |
| ramishra | skraynev: the default policy has been changed not to allow sample creation without admin privileges | 06:34 |
| ramishra | skraynev: proposed fix https://review.openstack.org/286385 | 06:35 |
| skraynev | ramishra: ok. I wonder, why they so constantly want to move it to admin... if they really want to do it I suppose, they need to raise some mail thread about it... | 06:38 |
| ramishra | skraynev: we probably need this patch to fix our gate and then see how we can fix the ceilometer tests with the new policy. | 06:40 |
| ramishra | skraynev: I hope someone from the telemetry team looks at it, seems no one around. | 06:42 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: yeah. right. | 06:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add guide about using Rally on Heat gates https://review.openstack.org/280656 | 07:05 |
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| pas-ha | morning Heat | 07:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Fix notification test to run with rabbitmq cluster https://review.openstack.org/286440 | 08:37 |
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| shardy | gah, CeilometerAlarmTest.test_alarm broken again :( | 08:49 |
| skraynev | shardy: rabimishra's fix was merged recently | 08:51 |
| skraynev | shardy: and you are right again and more over in the same way | 08:51 |
| shardy | skraynev: thanks, I just found bug #1551383 | 08:51 |
| openstack | bug 1551383 in heat "lbaas1 gates failed on master" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1551383 - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi) | 08:51 |
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| therve | skraynev, On reviews like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286157/ it doesn't deserve a -1 | 09:59 |
| therve | Sure we may want to do that, but it's totally unrelated to the change | 09:59 |
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| skraynev | therve: sure. I just wanted to show, that I agree with using _LI and it's ggod chance to fix this minor issue | 10:00 |
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| therve | I can do it, but that's how we lose patches | 10:01 |
| therve | With random unrelated comments | 10:01 |
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| therve | (I also think that translating logs is wrong, but hey) | 10:02 |
| skraynev | therve: why do we lose them ? you fix minor issue in the same part of code and IMO it's right way. | 10:02 |
| skraynev | and I don't say, that I will not +2 it | 10:02 |
| therve | skraynev, Because I happen to reactive and care | 10:02 |
| skraynev | or you mean, that it takes more time? | 10:02 |
| therve | skraynev, People sometime send valuable fixes, and we put them away with shitty stuff | 10:02 |
| skraynev | therve: but then we need to fix some shitty minor nits separately. F.e. copy-pasting old resources leads to having unused LOG variables. I really tired to fix them each month. | 10:04 |
| skraynev | IMo it can be checked by some custom rule, but we can not automate everything | 10:04 |
| therve | skraynev, Well that's an issue with the initial review | 10:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Clean initial registered messages https://review.openstack.org/286157 | 10:05 |
| therve | But if one improves the situation in one way, don't block him because it didn't improve another thing | 10:05 |
| skraynev | therve: sure, how about another way - post separate patch with fix ? | 10:07 |
| skraynev | therve: if it's ok for you, then I will try to share this approach ;) | 10:08 |
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| shardy | skraynev: I think the issue is, the thing folks are -1ing for already existed, so it's not an issue with the patch that's posted | 10:11 |
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| shardy | e.g the _( was already in the code, so it's not that friendly to -1 a patch just because it happens to touch the same lines | 10:12 |
| skraynev | shardy: yes. I understand it and agree. | 10:12 |
| shardy | Ok cool :) | 10:13 |
| skraynev | unfortunately sometimes we forgot to fix such things (if it was spotted, but not fixed in same patch) | 10:13 |
| shardy | Ack, I think it's fine to comment and say "hey, we should fix this", but I personally wouldn't block on it | 10:16 |
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| skraynev | I understand, why therve is irritated by it. My apologize if it was rough from my side. As you, guys, said we should not -1 such things, but IMO if someone spotted it will be good to fix it, because it makes code better. So I'd be happy to have some balance in this process | 10:17 |
| skraynev | therve: shardy: yeap. it make sense for me too. I will try to follow your suggestion. Thank you for the advice ;) | 10:18 |
| therve | No problem :) | 10:24 |
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| therve | So our gate is still broken btw? Did someone talked to the ceilo guys? | 10:32 |
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| therve | God damnit | 10:35 |
| therve | So waiting on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286385/ FWIW | 10:38 |
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| therve | skraynev, FWIW, pretty unhappy about the lbaas resources going in like this | 10:45 |
| therve | At the first intermittent failure I'm going to yell | 10:46 |
| therve | Like, more than usual | 10:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | yuki kasuya proposed openstack/heat: Replace OS_TENANT_NAME => OS_PROJECT_NAME https://review.openstack.org/286499 | 11:00 |
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| cmyster | lbaas ? | 11:26 |
| * cmyster looks at therve | 11:26 | |
| cmyster | which version | 11:26 |
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| skraynev | cmyster: I suppose v2 | 11:41 |
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| cmyster | skraynev: thanks | 11:43 |
| cmyster | skraynev: I guess v3 will be trickier | 11:43 |
| skraynev | therve: The lbaas v2 was planned at the beginning of release and I suppose that they enough reviewed. Note, that I personally do not merge them, but try to do after/review. And on the first look it is ok. if we will get error we may do a backport and fix it. It will not affect whole Heat more over it's an alternative for v1, which is deprecated in previous release. So IMO we may sanded it during rc and N release. | 11:45 |
| skraynev | therve: why do you so skeptical about it? and which approach for landing them you'd like to see? | 11:46 |
| skraynev | cmyster: :) no more then v4 | 11:46 |
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| cmyster | skraynev: v3 is a mini standalone image with LB capabilities is why I mentioned it | 11:49 |
| skraynev | cmyster: heh. I supposed, that it's just ephemeral version. I hope, that we don't do add support for v3 soon | 11:50 |
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| therve | skraynev, Well, I'm a bit skeptical that the neutron design itself works well for Heat, but that's a separate concern | 12:00 |
| therve | skraynev, Mostly, it's a giant shared state on the lb status, so it's bound to have race conditions | 12:01 |
| therve | I suggested one solution but apparently was ignored | 12:01 |
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| skraynev | therve: oh. I have not seen your suggestion. In the second time you need to use megaphone or red mail thread. | 12:05 |
| * therve shrugs | 12:05 | |
| skraynev | therve: about current situation... if it will be bad we may deprecate this approach. | 12:06 |
| skraynev | therve: I don't know why guys ignored your suggestion | 12:06 |
| therve | Well I don't know either. Not that I really care. | 12:07 |
| skraynev | therve: so if their approach will be bad we will get "shitty" resources for Mitaka, which we may improve/fix/re-work in Newton with visual evidences | 12:07 |
| therve | skraynev, Yeah it's just that the deprecation cycle is long. | 12:08 |
| therve | Hopefully the interface is correct and we just need to change the internals | 12:08 |
| skraynev | therve: great, that it will be a bit easier | 12:08 |
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| skraynev | therve: I understand, that you try to make world perfect and it's right motivation. So I really thankful, that you fight with blind "rechecks" and incorrect review approaches. However sometimes we need to make mistake or risks to get experience. Especially in case, when we still have resistance as deprecation period for lbaas v1. | 12:14 |
| skraynev | therve: and again, I agree ,that we need to minimize bad effect of such mistakes. | 12:15 |
| therve | We didn't touch v1, so that's not really an issue | 12:15 |
| skraynev | right, so I think we may be optimistic in case of current realization of v2 and try to gather more real feedback. | 12:16 |
| skraynev | it allows to make it better in N | 12:16 |
| skraynev | another also good way - to discuss and find consensus before merging. unfortunately it allows more time and communication work between BP assigner and core-reviewers. | 12:17 |
| skraynev | and in the current situation we lost this chance. | 12:18 |
| skraynev | doh. you did me a philosopher.... | 12:18 |
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| skraynev | fix for ceilometer was merged | 14:28 |
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| skraynev | jdob: ping I am here | 15:41 |
| jdob | skraynev: hey, quick question. https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1508857 has landed and I just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything else to do with the bug other than set to Fix Committed (for instance, it's not aligned to a milestone, so I wasn't sure if it needed to be) | 15:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1508857 in python-heatclient "nested validation requires parameters, but they are not accepted" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Jay Dobies (jdob) | 15:42 |
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| skraynev | jdob: yes. I will add milestone and also I will fix Status. it should be Fix released | 15:43 |
| skraynev | Fix committed is not used for Heat now. | 15:43 |
| jdob | ah, ok. so anytime a bug lands, it goes straight to Fix Released? | 15:44 |
| skraynev | because we use milestone approach and according last docs all bugs move to Fix released automatically after merge | 15:44 |
| jdob | er, anytime all of the patches for a bug | 15:44 |
| skraynev | yes | 15:44 |
| skraynev | jdob: what do you mean by "anytime" ? | 15:45 |
| jdob | meaning in the future, when i fix a bug, i should put it straight to Fix Released when it lands | 15:45 |
| skraynev | bug live cycle: Open -> In Progress-> Fix Released | 15:45 |
| jdob | ok, perfect, that's what I was asking | 15:46 |
| skraynev | jdob: if you mentioned in commit message bug id on launchpad it should be automatically moved to Fix Released by launchpad | 15:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Use poll_for_events for "openstack stack delete" https://review.openstack.org/286255 | 15:46 |
| skraynev | by launchpad or gerrit bot | 15:46 |
| jdob | ok; this was a weird case since I split the bug into two separate bugs since it was really multiple issues, so i never had a Closes-Bug commit, just a few partials before deciding to split them | 15:47 |
| skraynev | if it did not happen you need to do it yourself | 15:47 |
| jdob | but that's good to know, that I won't normally have to deal with this | 15:47 |
| skraynev | yes. Please use Closes-Bug or Partial Bug or Related bug | 15:47 |
| skraynev | it allows to show your patch with fix on corresponding launchpad page as comment | 15:48 |
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| jdob | i did use Partial-Bug and see them in there, but I never had a Closes-Bug commit, I'll keep that in mind | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Re-add str_replace parameter validation, and fix test https://review.openstack.org/282394 | 16:01 |
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| shardy | If anyone can check out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282403/ that would be good, stable/liberty backport related to the str_replace patch that just landed | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Improve translation properties https://review.openstack.org/286098 | 17:15 |
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| trevor_ | Hi everyone, I proposed a fix to a heat-cnftools bug but it needs reviews. Could someone look at if for me? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284369/ | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Swift container get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/275864 | 20:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Use poll_for_events for "openstack stack delete" https://review.openstack.org/286255 | 20:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: LBaaS v2 Pool Member https://review.openstack.org/241251 | 21:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Ignore TypeErrors on old properties during update https://review.openstack.org/286874 | 22:58 |
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