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openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Allow multi-layer global environment/template directory https://review.openstack.org/298054 | 01:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Allow multi-layer global environment/template directory https://review.openstack.org/298054 | 02:36 |
elynn_ | Morning heat | 02:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Mohankumar proposed openstack/heat-specs: Add networking-sfc resource support https://review.openstack.org/298261 | 06:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/heat: Fix doc build if git is absent https://review.openstack.org/305020 | 07:45 |
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pas-ha | morning Heat | 08:10 |
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jamie_h | when you create a software deployment via the api, does it execute it immediately on a server or does it wait until an associated status (like CREATE, DELETE) is executed on the server? | 10:03 |
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therve | jamie_h, It doesn't really execute anything on the server ever. | 10:16 |
therve | It makes some data available to the server immediately | 10:17 |
therve | AFAIK deploy actions are only properties of the resource, not in the underlying API | 10:18 |
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jamie_h | therve: so you're saying that these lines https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-templates/wordpress/WordPress_software-config_1-instance.yaml#L63-L103 don't really deploy wordpress, they just make "data" available? i'm not sure i understand why that's useful at all | 11:34 |
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jamie_h | surely a deployment, which executes the information stored in a SoftwareConfig resource, has to do something on a server? | 11:35 |
therve | jamie_h, You then need the tools on the server to talk to heat to retrieve the data | 11:35 |
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jamie_h | therve: that seems to go against what the API implies, that you can execute deployments on servers without prior configuration | 11:36 |
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therve | jamie_h, Which API? | 11:37 |
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jamie_h | therve http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-orchestration-v1.html#software_deployment_create | 11:38 |
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jamie_h | if you look in the template i linked to above, there's no mention of installing any kind of agent. i assumed heat did that automatically during the create process | 11:38 |
therve | I don't see where that API implies no config though | 11:39 |
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therve | jamie_h, Here's the real doc that you need to refer to: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/software_deployment.html#software-deployment-resources | 11:40 |
therve | I don't see how Heat can magically install anything on a server | 11:40 |
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therve | jamie_h, Also, just look at the top of the template you just linked: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-templates/wordpress/WordPress_software-config_1-instance.yaml#L10 | 11:41 |
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jamie_h | so if a deployment makes a config resource available to a server, and that config has something like `config: { get_file: wp_install.sh }` in it, it would run that bash file when the deployment is created? | 11:44 |
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therve | Sure | 11:46 |
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jamie_h | what's confusing, though, is the API operation i linked above. it accepts an "action" param which has this desc "The current stack action that triggers this deployment resource.". so the deployment will only happen when the server's parent stack transitions to a specific action status? or will the deployment happen immediately after the api call? | 11:50 |
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jamie_h | i basically want to associate/dissociate configs from servers after they've been created, in order to run specific files that can do things like rotate certs, redeploy specific software, etc | 11:51 |
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therve | Frankly you shouldn't look at that API | 11:53 |
therve | You should use the resources in templates | 11:54 |
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jamie_h | how would templates help with already provisioned resources? i'd have to delete the entire stack and redeploy, right? | 12:02 |
jamie_h | why shouldn't i look at the API? doesn't it work? | 12:02 |
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jamie_h | also, templates wouldn't allow me to specify individual servers to execute software config changes on | 12:03 |
therve | It doesn't look like Heat is really the tool you're looking for | 12:04 |
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jamie_h | i just want to understand whether it's technically capable for heat to do the above, since there's not much documentation | 12:10 |
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jamie_h | what other alternatives would there be? | 12:11 |
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therve | You can probably do what you want with Heat, but it's not really intended to be used like this. | 12:20 |
therve | I'd use something like ansible personally | 12:20 |
jamie_h | the use case is for magnum. it provisions a stack of VMs configured with a COE like swarm or kubernetes. sometimes it needs to perform secure operations on a VM after create. it'd be great if there was a consistent way of doing this in OpenStack (using something like Heat), rather than each project picking their own favourite external tool | 12:25 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/305180 | 12:42 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/305225 | 12:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Change type of raised exception in translation https://review.openstack.org/301004 | 13:36 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add to translation resolving list props with str https://review.openstack.org/303504 | 13:36 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Improve translation properties https://review.openstack.org/286098 | 13:37 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add way to use custom paths in translation https://review.openstack.org/295043 | 13:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Designate::Record observe reality implementation https://review.openstack.org/255253 | 13:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Designate::Domain observe reality implementation https://review.openstack.org/254260 | 13:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Designate::Domain observe reality implementation https://review.openstack.org/254260 | 14:13 |
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prazumovsky | Qiming, therve`: I've updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255253/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254260/ patches, please take a look | 14:14 |
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therve` | prazumovsky, You don't override get_parse_resource_data ? | 14:17 |
therve` | It's called parse_live_resource_data | 14:17 |
prazumovsky | oh... thanks, my mistake. | 14:18 |
therve` | The second one is correct | 14:18 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Designate::Record observe reality implementation https://review.openstack.org/255253 | 14:18 |
prazumovsky | done | 14:18 |
prazumovsky | thanks | 14:19 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Remove _show_resource from barbican resources https://review.openstack.org/252945 | 14:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Add command to reset one stack status https://review.openstack.org/305306 | 14:21 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/305225 | 14:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Fix logging issue in heatclient tests https://review.openstack.org/302331 | 14:40 |
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therve` | Meeting in 5 in #openstack-meeting-4 ! | 14:55 |
jdob | glad you said that, I didn't realize there as a meeting-4 :) | 14:58 |
shardy | hehe, /me was about to go to the wrong place also | 14:58 |
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therve` | jdob, There is! No -2 though | 14:59 |
therve` | Because reason | 14:59 |
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jdob | haha, naturally :) | 14:59 |
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prazumovsky | When our openstack meeting will start today? | 15:05 |
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ochuprykov | #openstack-meeting-4 | 15:06 |
elynn | it's at openstack-meeting-4 prazumovsky | 15:06 |
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jaimguer | hi everyone | 16:11 |
jaimguer | quick question: when orchestrating a Glance resource, why can't we set certain properties like OS architecture, ramdisk, etc? | 16:12 |
jaimguer | is it a technical limitation? | 16:13 |
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jaimguer | because I'm hoping to put forward a blueprint | 16:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Designate::Record observe reality implementation https://review.openstack.org/255253 | 16:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat: Magnum::Bay observe reality implementation https://review.openstack.org/305396 | 16:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/305180 | 17:58 |
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