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| prazumovsky | ramishra: I still think, that next patch will be interesting for you: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303504/ | 10:23 |
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| jaosorior | Could someone check this commit out? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305696/ | 11:09 |
| cmyster | 8/ | 11:09 |
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| aspiers | hi all, can anyone point me at docs / info on the current status of support for HA for cattle VMs - i.e. auto-restart on failure? | 11:44 |
| aspiers | I saw that HArestarter was deprecated in Kilo and now there are new convergence self-healing features | 11:44 |
| aspiers | but I couldn't find an explanation of how this would work | 11:45 |
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| wangbo | hello all, I find that "wc_notify" cloud only send SUCCESS or timeout. | 11:55 |
| wangbo | I want to know that if "wc_notify" send SUCCESS/FAILURE depend on the result of user_data? | 11:55 |
| wangbo | such as: https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/stable/liberty/magnum/templates/heat-mesos/mesoscluster.yaml#L181 | 11:56 |
| wangbo | could it send failure if config: {get_resource: configure_mesos} failed? thans | 11:56 |
| wangbo | thanks | 11:57 |
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| therve | ramishra, Do you know why we have to do that: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/heat/resource_group.py#L397 ? | 12:12 |
| therve | I'm surprised to notice self.properties is incorrect at that point | 12:12 |
| therve | aspiers, The current status is that we don't support, AFAIK | 12:12 |
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| aspiers | therve: thanks. but is it on the roadmap as part of the convergence efforts? | 12:13 |
| therve | Not that I know | 12:13 |
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| aspiers | therve: ok, thanks a lot! trying to make sure that my Austin talk contains accurate info ;-) | 12:14 |
| aspiers | therve: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/ says "templates […] allow some more advanced functionality such as instance high availability […]" | 12:15 |
| aspiers | therve: I guess maybe worth changing that? | 12:15 |
| therve | Maybe yeah | 12:16 |
| therve | wangbo, I think if you send FAILURE for status it's supposed to fail? | 12:16 |
| therve | wangbo, I don't understand why you mix software config and wait condition though | 12:17 |
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| therve | aspiers, This is a very controversial feature | 12:22 |
| therve | It's basically mentioned around because "VMWare does" | 12:22 |
| therve | It's unclear whether we should do anything about it in Heat | 12:23 |
| aspiers | therve: OK, well now the community has several other "real" solutions for this, and that is the topic of my talk | 12:23 |
| aspiers | therve: to me it doesn't make sense to do it in Heat | 12:23 |
| aspiers | except maybe for cattle | 12:23 |
| therve | OK cool | 12:23 |
| aspiers | making pets HA generally requires fencing | 12:23 |
| aspiers | which is out of scope of Heat for sure | 12:24 |
| aspiers | and probably out of scope of OpenStack in general | 12:24 |
| aspiers | (unless you include Ironic) | 12:24 |
| aspiers | but for stateless cattle, simple auto-restart can be good enough | 12:24 |
| therve | Yeah nothing really seems out of scope of OpenStack nowadays | 12:24 |
| aspiers | hehe | 12:24 |
| aspiers | FWIW, IIUC the PWG consider guest HA as the #2 feature priority right now | 12:25 |
| therve | sigh | 12:25 |
| aspiers | but the area is in a great deal of flux | 12:25 |
| aspiers | therve: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/7327 in case you are interested | 12:27 |
| wangbo | therve, how could wc_notify send SUCCESS/FAILURE accordingly depending on result of software config SUCCESS/FAILURE. | 12:28 |
| therve | wangbo, Not sure. It'd be best to remove wait conditions and use software deployments instead | 12:29 |
| aspiers | therve: I think https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/HA needs updating too | 12:31 |
| aspiers | therve: also maybe http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/unsupported.html which suggests that auto-healing is on the roadmap to replace this | 12:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add to resource-type-list returning description https://review.openstack.org/307147 | 12:37 |
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| therve | aspiers, It's a bit more complicated than that :). | 12:38 |
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| ramishra | therve: Are we not updating the defn/properties after handle_update https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resource.py#L1154-L1155 is called? | 12:45 |
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| therve | ramishra, Yeah, after handle_update | 12:45 |
| therve | So you can't use self.properties in handle_update | 12:45 |
| ramishra | yeah, but we use it https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/heat/resource_group.py#L473 | 12:45 |
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| therve | ramishra, https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/heat/resource_group.py#L397 | 12:46 |
| therve | MAGIC! | 12:47 |
| ramishra | therve: I thought we're parsing after defn inside handle_update as we want to build the nested defintion with the properties from after. | 12:50 |
| ramishra | no? | 12:50 |
| therve | After definition of what? | 12:50 |
| therve | I mean, you can argue what you want, self.properties is just not correct inside handle_update :) | 12:51 |
| therve | ramishra, https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/nova/server.py#L1118 for example what we do elsewhere | 12:51 |
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| ramishra | yeah, we can use prop_diff instead | 12:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: WIP: Correctly update ResourceChain https://review.openstack.org/307160 | 12:53 |
| therve | I think doing the same as ResourceGroup is better | 12:53 |
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| jdob | therve: lemme know if you need another pair of eyes on the resource chain bug | 14:24 |
| therve | jdob, I think I'm good. Mostly waiting on the gate not doing anything :/ | 14:27 |
| jdob | i wasn't sure if you somehow disabled that intentionally :) | 14:28 |
| therve | disabled what? Not making the actual change you mean? | 14:28 |
| jdob | the gate on the test you uploaded | 14:28 |
| jdob | you marked it as WIP and I thought "Interesting, no gates on WIP anymore?" | 14:29 |
| jdob | apparently I was wrong :) | 14:29 |
| therve | Yeah the whole gate is stuck somewhere apparently | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add senlin to README.rst (github main page) https://review.openstack.org/307013 | 18:06 |
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