stevebaker | zaneb: there are 2 tripleo fishbowls during heat work sessions - I'm not sure if you're suggesting juggling tripleo sessions too or just heat | 00:01 |
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zaneb | no, probably just heat | 00:01 |
stevebaker | so we can ignore heat fishbowls in the juggle | 00:01 |
stevebaker | biab, I need to address this meat pie deficiency | 00:02 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/307751 | 00:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add RESOLVE translation for some sahara resources https://review.openstack.org/301561 | 03:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-templates: Add LBaaS v2 templates https://review.openstack.org/290089 | 03:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Fix properties usage in ResourceChain update https://review.openstack.org/307160 | 03:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Don't access `_stored_properties_data` https://review.openstack.org/308130 | 03:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/307751 | 04:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Remove redundant properties construction https://review.openstack.org/307561 | 06:37 |
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therve | Meeting in 5 in #openstack-meeting! Feel free to add items to the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-04-20_0800_UTC.29 | 07:55 |
skraynev | morning all | 07:55 |
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therve | zeih, No blank rechecks please :) | 08:38 |
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therve | skraynev, BTW I'll need a volunteer to run the meeting the week after the summit, if you're around | 08:39 |
zeih | therve: hey :) I just wonder why grenade gate is failing :( | 08:39 |
therve | zeih, Because keystone kilo deps are broken | 08:39 |
zeih | ah okay.. dont know this | 08:40 |
zeih | therve: then indeed the recheck will not kelp | 08:40 |
therve | Yep :) | 08:40 |
zeih | therve: thank you | 08:40 |
therve | No problem | 08:40 |
shardy | ramishra: Hey I updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1466694 with a link to the keystone is_admin_project stuff | 08:41 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1466694 in heat "admin role can't delete other tenants stacks" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy) | 08:41 |
shardy | I've not had time to try that, but I guess the first step is seeing how that works, and if it's been integrated into other projects | 08:41 |
shardy | then we can wire it into our context object and DB layer as appropriate | 08:41 |
shardy | this is probably not super-urgent, but given the operator complaints I feel like we should try to address it during Newton if possible | 08:42 |
skraynev | therve: sure, I can help ;) | 08:42 |
shardy | happy to chat about it, and help with testing/reviews | 08:42 |
therve | skraynev, Thanks | 08:42 |
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ramishra | shardy: thanks for the context, sure, I'll put it in my todo list for n1 | 08:56 |
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jaosorior | Hey, any chance to get some reviews for this? :D https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305696/ | 09:28 |
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shardy | jaosorior: lgtm | 09:33 |
jaosorior | shardy: Thanks | 09:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Di XiaoLi proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Unify stack output show display format https://review.openstack.org/308238 | 10:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec to skip validation of identical resources https://review.openstack.org/307733 | 10:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add to translation resolving list props with str https://review.openstack.org/303504 | 11:28 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Improve translation properties https://review.openstack.org/286098 | 11:28 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add way to use custom paths in translation https://review.openstack.org/295043 | 11:28 |
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prazumovsky | hi folks! | 12:16 |
prazumovsky | Have next question | 12:16 |
prazumovsky | Is it expected behaviour when I create server with some template | 12:17 |
prazumovsky | where server props contains admin_pass | 12:17 |
prazumovsky | template-show call returns unhidden admin_pass | 12:17 |
prazumovsky | so from CLI heat template-show such stack admin_pass is visible | 12:18 |
prazumovsky | IMO it's very very very very insecure, no? | 12:18 |
prazumovsky | because if I create stack as admin, I can learn template from any other user, e.g. demo | 12:19 |
prazumovsky | @skraynev, @therve, @shardy ^ | 12:20 |
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therve | I guess | 12:22 |
therve | Don't use admin_pass if you care about security | 12:23 |
prazumovsky | hm... | 12:25 |
openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec to skip validation of identical resources https://review.openstack.org/307733 | 12:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Remove redundant properties construction https://review.openstack.org/307561 | 12:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add to resource-type-list returning description https://review.openstack.org/307147 | 12:56 |
openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec to skip validation of identical resources https://review.openstack.org/307733 | 12:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Don't access `_stored_properties_data` https://review.openstack.org/308130 | 13:09 |
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therve | skraynev, Is Dmitriy on IRC? | 13:35 |
therve | Those gerrit discussions are endless | 13:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Improve translation properties https://review.openstack.org/286098 | 13:43 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add way to use custom paths in translation https://review.openstack.org/295043 | 13:43 |
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skraynev | therve: he is here | 13:46 |
skraynev | therve: -> duvarenkov | 13:46 |
duvarenkov | Hi ) | 13:46 |
therve | Hey there | 13:47 |
duvarenkov | Didnt know about this channel until now, sorry | 13:47 |
therve | So yeah if you could explain your solution a bit more that'd be cool | 13:47 |
therve | No worries | 13:47 |
duvarenkov | Ok. That solution works on every stack, including nested stacks. This method is called for each stack | 13:48 |
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duvarenkov | As explained in spec the main reason of the problem is that nested stack does not even know that it is nested and behaves like ordinary stack | 13:49 |
duvarenkov | and validates every resource in template | 13:49 |
duvarenkov | this solution checks hashes and if resource definition with such hash was already validated - skips validation for such resource | 13:49 |
therve | Right but only if that resource is in the same stack? | 13:50 |
duvarenkov | Yes | 13:50 |
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therve | But when you have a ResourceGroup, you have a stack per resource | 13:51 |
therve | So that doesn't work | 13:51 |
duvarenkov | No, its a stack with a lot of resources | 13:51 |
therve | Hum | 13:52 |
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therve | Dang you're right | 13:53 |
therve | OK sorry about that | 13:54 |
therve | duvarenkov, So I guess the issue is that it's a strict hash of the definition | 13:54 |
therve | So any small changes like using index breaks the cache | 13:54 |
duvarenkov | Yes, it is | 13:55 |
duvarenkov | But better that than skip validation where it should be | 13:55 |
duvarenkov | because you can use some tricky template using indexes | 13:55 |
therve | That's true | 13:56 |
therve | It's a possible quick win, but it's unclear how much we would actually win | 13:56 |
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duvarenkov | I'll try to measure how much time will we win with and without that change | 13:57 |
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duvarenkov | And thanks for your comments, I'm new to heat and still learning openstack, so I'm glad to hear critical comments and advices. | 13:59 |
therve | No problem. | 14:00 |
therve | Not the easiest task to tackle first :) | 14:00 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/308370 | 14:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat: Skip validation of identical resources https://review.openstack.org/308377 | 14:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove redundant properties construction https://review.openstack.org/307561 | 14:48 |
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skraynev | therve: lol. I wrote comment, without reading your discussion with duvarenkov... So we want to get real comparison.. Hm. It should takes more time for real check with 100+ Vms | 14:51 |
skraynev | therve: we will try to get some results before summit, but I afraid, that we have not free resources for it. | 14:52 |
therve | skraynev, We don't really need 100 VMs | 14:53 |
skraynev | 20 ? | 14:53 |
therve | We don't need 1 :) | 14:53 |
therve | Neutron port would work just as well | 14:53 |
skraynev | Doh! | 14:54 |
skraynev | you are right! | 14:54 |
skraynev | :) | 14:54 |
therve | We just need something with a bit of validation | 14:54 |
skraynev | agree, good idea | 14:54 |
ochuprykov | i proposed to validate 1000 random strings | 14:54 |
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ochuprykov | but it seems better to validate something that send requests to other services | 14:55 |
therve | Yeah exactly | 14:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Don't try scaling when no change in size https://review.openstack.org/294945 | 14:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Make parameter decryption more robust https://review.openstack.org/308400 | 15:14 |
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therve | zaneb, You around? Wondering if you saw my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305532/ | 15:39 |
zaneb | I didn't, but I have now | 15:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Don't access `_stored_properties_data` https://review.openstack.org/308130 | 16:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat-specs: Full support of lifecycle for custom resources https://review.openstack.org/308468 | 16:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Add client library support for retrieving a stack's environment https://review.openstack.org/269179 | 16:45 |
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zaneb | shardy: do you have any raw data dumps from you memory debugging that I could maybe try to analyse? | 17:35 |
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shardy | zaneb: Not really, I was mostly dumping data from heapy and gc into the logfile, I didn't get as far as generating a core file and trying to unravel things via gdb | 17:37 |
shardy | zaneb: I can share those logs but I'm not sure it'll help much | 17:37 |
zaneb | I meant like dumps from heapy/gc | 17:38 |
shardy | if you let me know your preferred format I can happily collect some data tho | 17:38 |
zaneb | maybe I'll give up when I see the size of it, but right now feeling more motivated to look at data than to collect it ;) | 17:38 |
shardy | zaneb: sure, I basically added the heapy code similar to http://chase-seibert.github.io/blog/2013/08/03/diagnosing-memory-leaks-python.html | 17:39 |
shardy | and collected before/after heaps in Stack.create | 17:39 |
shardy | then printed the difference in various confusing ways via heapy | 17:40 |
shardy | I didn't save the entire heap as collected via heapy tho | 17:40 |
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shardy | I was hoping it'd give me a few clues (which it kinda did) | 17:40 |
shardy | I'll forward you the logs I still have and you can let me know what additional data would be of interest | 17:41 |
zaneb | thanks, that would be great | 17:41 |
shardy | I've got a running TripleO environment so collecting more should be easy enough | 17:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Don't scale when action is not complete https://review.openstack.org/294946 | 18:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Reset env.encrypted_param_names on stack update https://review.openstack.org/308051 | 18:27 |
openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Make parameter decryption more robust https://review.openstack.org/308400 | 18:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Make parameter decryption more robust https://review.openstack.org/308400 | 19:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Break reference cycle between Environment and ResourceRegistry https://review.openstack.org/308541 | 19:25 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Break reference cycle between ResourceRegistry and ResourceInfo https://review.openstack.org/308542 | 19:25 |
zaneb | shardy: try those ^ | 19:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Brent Eagles proposed openstack/heat: Clarify the help text for error_wait_time https://review.openstack.org/308547 | 19:43 |
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openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/python-heatclient: use thread safe fnmatch https://review.openstack.org/308568 | 20:22 |
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openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/heat: use thread safe fnmatch https://review.openstack.org/308575 | 20:28 |
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shardy | zaneb: Hey, thanks for the patches, I did a quick test and I don't see a huge improvement - will need to do a more thorough comparison tomorrow over a few iterations and plot the results | 20:45 |
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shardy | The peak usage is still just over a gig, which is slightly better than I had been seeing previously | 20:46 |
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ying_zuo | Hello, if anyone has a few minutes, can you please review my patches? | 22:02 |
ying_zuo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301229/ | 22:02 |
ying_zuo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303628/ | 22:02 |
ying_zuo | thank you in advance! | 22:02 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/308370 | 23:12 |
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openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/python-heatclient: comapre dict instead of json.dumps string https://review.openstack.org/308692 | 23:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Crag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: De-duplicate raw_template.files https://review.openstack.org/303692 | 23:22 |
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