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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add aodh client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/32504401:32
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Migrate to nova api version 2.1  https://review.openstack.org/32423601:32
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elynn_Morning all :)02:19
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Avoid to use pass in exception  https://review.openstack.org/26297103:04
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add aodh client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/32504403:12
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Show 'deletion_time' for stack-list api  https://review.openstack.org/32309703:35
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Avoid to use pass in exception  https://review.openstack.org/26297104:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Adds default policy rule for resources limited to administrator  https://review.openstack.org/31732905:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Get rid of Parameters._validate_template_parameters()  https://review.openstack.org/32361005:35
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add aodh client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/32504406:25
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Use generic auth plugins  https://review.openstack.org/32050607:01
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add keystone_session property to context  https://review.openstack.org/32575107:01
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Use keystone session from context in client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/32575207:01
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix building query key for ceilometer alarm  https://review.openstack.org/32325608:19
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KanagarajMvishwanathj, hi08:21
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openstackgerritAnant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/30263008:47
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: WIP - Fix server networks update  https://review.openstack.org/32578409:08
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openstackgerritAnant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Catch exceptions in restore_prev_rsrc  https://review.openstack.org/32579209:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: DB query to get all resources by the root stack  https://review.openstack.org/31721909:45
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: [api-ref] Correct service-list api-ref  https://review.openstack.org/32417009:48
openstackgerritAnant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Enable convergence by default  https://review.openstack.org/32579809:49
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openstackgerritDmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat: Network resolving in Manila when only subnet passed  https://review.openstack.org/29071212:06
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zllfeDose anyone here come across this issue before?12:10
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zllfe1. we fired the stack-delete command12:10
zllfe2. the stack name disappeared immediately from the heat stack-list12:10
zllfe3. the backend deletion process however is still in progress like delete volume, delete server etc.12:11
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zllfethe issue here is that we can not see the stack anymore with heat stack-list but it is still in progress for resource deletion in the background.12:12
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cmysterzllfe: check the DB?12:23
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zllfeyes, we will but even with yes or no, there is issue related to this I think. I searched Google and found nothing related as this.12:24
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cmysterzllfe: if delete fails its a bug either way...12:41
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KanagarajMjdob, hi13:53
jdobKanagarajM: hey :)13:53
KanagarajMjdob, thanks for reviewing the spec :)13:54
jdobnp, sorry it took so long, internal stuff has been brutal the past few days13:54
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KanagarajMjdob, as you have mentioned, the current approach seems not help to generation of hot , even after refactoring,13:55
jdobya, that worried me from the start, that code was written very much for reading, and on top of that, evolved a lot over the years13:55
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KanagarajMjdob, yeah, so shall we take a step back from current approach and see some thing like https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-hot-parser-newton13:58
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jdobyes, that's what I remember seeing in Austin (or something that looked like that). IMO, that's the way to go, get that agreed on and then fit things into it13:59
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KanagarajMjdob, i cooked up that etherpad to show it to all of us during the austin meeting. so shall we refine that etherpad further to bring up an common understanding amoung us14:01
jdobi think so, and then likely add it to the spec, since that's a pretty critical part of why this is being done and will influence how it pans out14:02
jdobwe'll just need to keep an eye on the bikeshedding getting out of hand and make sure people agree to the fundamentals14:02
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KanagarajMjdob, yeah. thats right. to put ina spec, is it a good idea to put a seprate spec someting like heat-template-generator as other spec would help to split every thing related template under one python package ?14:04
KanagarajM* other spec -> existing spec14:05
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jdobi think so, i think the two are very related14:05
jdoband i think the API will help point out why simply removing dependencies and moving to its own package doesnt get us much14:06
jdobi also think a lot of the important discussion will be "If you do that, you lose X functionality that we need"14:06
jdobstuff that only people who have been on the project since inception will remember is a problem :)14:06
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KanagarajMjdob, what kind of functionality will be lost ?14:08
jdobi dont know, thats the problem :) I'm thinking there are small edge cases that will take many eyes to notice14:08
jdobfor instance, there was just a patch to remove case sensitivity from delete policy names14:09
jdobmy gut reaction when I saw it was a better way of doing it to effectively remove that case sensitivty for old versions of the templates too14:09
jdobbut that's actually a problem due to how we support multiple versions and compatibility14:09
jdoband the risk of someone writing the template on newton, it working, but then not working on a mitaka server14:10
jdobor, to quote the review, "what's broken must stay broken"  :)14:10
jdobits little things like that that I suspect people will find with the generation APIs14:10
jdobso i think identifying them sooner in a spec will help guide the best way to do it14:10
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KanagarajMjdob, I felt template-generator should be an lib than a API. and in this lib, we should cover for each supported version of HOT14:18
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jdober, sorry. by "API" I mean the API into the library, not a REST API14:18
jdob"API into the library" meaning the sorts of operations for manipulating a template that we support14:19
KanagarajMjdob, Ah, sorry . i think i read in other way :)14:19
jdobunderstandable, we often say "API" meaning a server-side API14:20
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KanagarajMjdob, the new lib always  needs to stick to the given HOT version,14:20
thervezaneb, I'm trying to debug https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1499669 as I think we have a real issue14:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1499669 in heat "Heat stucks in DELETE_IN_PROGRESS for some input data" [Medium,Triaged]14:22
thervezaneb, I'm encountering a weird stuff triggered by the change in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311837/14:22
therveBasically a UPDATE stack SET raw_template_id=NULL14:23
thervePresumably the stack exists even though we didn't get a result from create_stack14:24
KanagarajMjdob, and when HOT is generated from new lib, it will have a HOT YAML/JSON ahdering to the given HOT version. but when it comes to resource plugin schema, library should support to generate based on 1. running heat.2. based on the heat release version. IMO, this will perfectly work for heat supported resource plugin.14:24
KanagarajMjdob, latter, we could start to see on how to support the generation of HOT based on 3rd party resource plugin.14:25
jdobya, the 3rd party stuff doesn't worry me right now14:25
jdobi think i'm more curious of what the implications are of, for example, add_parameter(parameter)14:26
jdoband if there are more side effects that will happen or something14:26
jdobor what it looks like to add a get_attr to a template14:26
jdobdoes it take the resource object, some sort of ID, etc.14:27
KanagarajMjdob, Ah. while generating the template, i think we no need worry about the real time resource object (which is part of stack). for example14:27
jdobso if I have a template14:28
jdobi call t.add_resource(r)14:28
jdobthen i make a new resource r2 = Resource()14:28
KanagarajMjdob, to generate "get_attr(resource A, attr_name, idx)" here the all the params to get_attr is already modeled in new lib14:29
jdoband that modeling will work for adding new stuff rather than just getting it from a parsed json snippet?14:29
jdobit might work fine, I'm not pointing at a specific issue I know of14:29
jdobi just remember those calls dealing a lot with JSON snippets instead of a full DOM14:30
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KanagarajMjdob, i see your point that expected unknown risk, at this momemnt and its good to foresee :) ... on the other side, we see that value of new lib. so shall we give a try with another spec and let us poc it. I hope that it will work out and will handle the unknown cases as we progress.14:33
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jdobyeah, i think that makes sense14:35
KanagarajMjdob, ok. I will put a new spec on it.14:37
jdobawesome, let me know how I can help14:37
KanagarajMjdob, really need your help. :) 1. let us co-author on the new spec  2. for the poc, how shall we go14:39
KanagarajMjdob, one option is create a new repo in github / openstack and start to work together. kindly suggest if other better option.14:43
jdobi actually kinda like that, even if its just a personal github with you and me rapidly throwing stuff down14:43
jdobobviously to eventually pull in, but it might be easier for the POC14:44
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KanagarajMjdob, ok thats sounds even better.14:44
jdobi'm jdob on github (big surprise)14:44
jdobthat might be easier for rapidly putting ideas down to present as part of a larger POC to the rest of the team14:45
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KanagarajMjdob, yeah. thanks14:45
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KanagarajMjdob, good that we discussed now :) it brought good plan to go forward !14:46
jdobi know, i'm pretty excited about it :)14:46
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KanagarajMjdob, created an repo https://github.com/mkr1481/os-hot-gen and given an request to add you14:49
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KanagarajMjdob, will post a spec by this week.14:51
jdobexcellent14:51
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zanebtherve: I wish the sqlalchemy docs were a bit more forthcoming than http://docs2.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/core/exceptions.html?highlight=resourceclosederror#sqlalchemy.exc.ResourceClosedError15:05
thervezaneb, Ah you mean for the original bug?15:07
zanebyeah15:07
therveI think this is some kind of race condition15:07
therveYou get that error when you try to get a result from a UPDATE query for example15:08
therveIE expecting rows when there isn't any15:08
therveWhen trying to reproduce, I got all kind of different errors15:08
zanebgoogling its something to do with using the same session from multiple threads15:08
zanebsuggests^15:08
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therveYeah15:09
therveIn that case, I believe the threadgroup.stop can create a greenlet switch that we don't know how to handle15:09
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thervezaneb, So one issue I've found is that if stop_stack fails, we don't recover and timeout15:19
therveAnd it fails if we timeout too fast, which we do because the default value is 2 seconds15:20
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zanebhow long does it actually take to stop a stack?15:21
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Serialize files when using SessionClient  https://review.openstack.org/32598415:24
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therveI don't know about a stack in general15:30
thervebut a resource group of 250 nested stacks takes long enough15:30
zanebhmm, yeah I guess it would15:31
zanebit's almost like we need separate 'ack' and 'done' responses15:31
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zanebwow, a lot of people apparently don't know how LOG.exception works15:35
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thervezaneb, Also wondering if sections like https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resource.py#L730 shouldn't have a rollback beforehand16:12
therveIf you got a db exception and the connection isn't right, trying to set the resource state will fail too16:12
zanebthe try block isn't doing anything to the db there though16:14
therve? state_set does?16:15
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zanebtherve: oh, you mean at line 732? I thought you meant the one at line 71616:18
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zanebwon't any rollback required be handled somewhere inside state_set?16:20
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zanebtherve: added some comments to the bug16:40
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Serialize files when using SessionClient  https://review.openstack.org/32598417:13
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svendIs Mitaka Heat compatible with a Liberty Openstack installation?17:32
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openstackgerritCrag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Move properties_data into a separate table  https://review.openstack.org/26795318:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Copy devstack code to heat tree  https://review.openstack.org/31759718:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: A resource list formatter for graphviz dot diagrams  https://review.openstack.org/28691318:29
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thervezaneb, So I think there are 2 issues19:49
therveYeah having transactions would reduce the amount of noise and probably the actual failures19:49
therve(Also they wouldn't balloon)19:49
therveBut if we get StopActionFailed we shouldn't get stuck19:50
therveThere is likely a retry missing somewhere19:50
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therveAs for now we should think about raising engine_life_check_timeout in tripleo undercloud as this is the kind of large stacks where that issue would appear19:51
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openstackgerritJaime Guerrero proposed openstack/heat-specs: Enhance Heat Orchestration Over Glance Metadata  https://review.openstack.org/31364220:13
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marcin1234Could anyone explain this warning from Heat Mitaka? it shows in my logs with autoscaling: "Reading the ResourceDefinition  as if it were a snippet of a CloudFormation template is deprecated, and the ability to treat it as such will be removed in the future. Resource plugins should use the ResourceDefinition API to work with the definition of the resource instance."20:53
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zanebmarcin1234: it's a deprecated API where the warnings got a little bit ahead of where we actually removed the code using it from the core of heat itself21:05
zanebmarcin1234: if you haven't written any resource type plugins then you can completely disregard it21:05
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marcin1234zaneb: you mean if I have not written python code to implement custom resource type plugins right?21:12
zanebmarcin1234: correct21:13
openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Downgrade some exception logs to INFO level  https://review.openstack.org/32613921:14
openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Use LOG.exception() properly  https://review.openstack.org/32614021:14
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marcin1234(in mitaka) what could be the reason why during autoscaling up action I would see error from glance "User is not a trustee" and earlier I see it is using user "admin" to perform glance get image action, I would expect for that it would use special user created by heat during stack creation not admin21:33
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osorianoDo VMs ouside of an autoscaling stack interfere with the autoscaling alarms?22:50
osorianoI'm looking at the autoscaling template on github, it looks like the Ceilometer alarms that are created use the average cpu for *all* VMs, instead of only the VMs in the stack22:52
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osorianoCan someone confirm that there is a problem?22:53
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Load resources from DB for API calls  https://review.openstack.org/27823123:24
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marcin1234guys what is the role of "heat_stack_owner" really? I removed it from my user and it still works fine.23:36
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marcin1234osoriano: which example you are looking at for autoscaling?23:53
mrpointymarcin1234, are you using wait_conditions in your HOT's23:53
mrpointyI found I needed that role with wait_conditions23:54
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mrpointyI believe it's for the management of trusts for deferred operations, such as wait conditions23:58
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