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| prazumovsky | therve, zaneb, ramishra: hello! skraynev has patch on review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370603/ , which he want to see in code asap, so I need advice: could we merge it in rc1 right now or too late? | 09:15 |
| therve | prazumovsky, Probably too late, especially without tests. That can make it into rc2 though. | 09:16 |
| prazumovsky | therve: thanks for response, I talk with him about that | 09:17 |
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| ramishra | therve: so we have to leave the cancel update patches from rc1? | 10:52 |
| ramishra | I tested them locally few times, it seems to work at times. When it fails, I could see there is an resource lock error. | 10:55 |
| ramishra | Though could not make out what's going wrong. | 10:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: [WIP] Add properties group to doc generator https://review.openstack.org/369280 | 11:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: [WIP] Add properties group schema to resources https://review.openstack.org/369281 | 11:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: [WIP] Implement properties group for Resource https://review.openstack.org/367935 | 11:01 |
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| therve | ramishra, Yeah I think so | 11:16 |
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| vgridnev | ramishra, your comments are unconvincing for me. we running fetching plugins before sourcing settings, so we still can pick up all needed dependencies | 11:20 |
| vgridnev | (I'm talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317618/ ) | 11:21 |
| vgridnev | there is a draft of my suggestion https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370658/ | 11:21 |
| ramishra | vgridnev: from where would you pick up the plugins (without sourcing the settings file), if you enable the dependent plugins in the settings file? | 11:22 |
| vgridnev | so, we can introduce plugin-dependencies file for that (devstack plugin) | 11:23 |
| vgridnev | Why i really should get plugin dependencies from settings? | 11:23 |
| vgridnev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370658/5/functions-common@1813 | 11:24 |
| ramishra | I'm not saying you should. If you want to add one more file for deps, you can make it work. | 11:24 |
| ramishra | I see no wrong the plugin dependencies explictly specified in the jobs and the docs. | 11:25 |
| ramishra | Suggesting a change to devstack and get it in takes time. So my suggestion was doing it without changing devstack code. | 11:25 |
| ramishra | you can try your luck with it though:) | 11:26 |
| vgridnev | Fixing jobs is ok. But it's not right way of solving problem, actually. What if heat will start relying on other plugin? You should put that plugin in all jobs where heat is required. You should update all documentation in all projects that "Ok, we need one more plugin". We should handle such situation now without creating potentially non-working envs | 11:28 |
| vgridnev | so, user how is using sahara wants to enable just few plugins like sahara, sahara-dashboard. User should not care that something additional is needed | 11:29 |
| vgridnev | how->who | 11:30 |
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| therve | vgridnev, Yeah, the sahara plugin should declare its dependency on heat somehow | 11:30 |
| vgridnev | Yeah, better approaches always need time to process that | 11:30 |
| ramishra | I don't disagree that there are better ways to do it. But devstack is meant for developers;) you can tell them what to do. | 11:31 |
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| vgridnev | since ocata is going to start soon (in two weeks) we should start implementing right approaches without any rush. Ok, it's for developers, but it's still unclear for me why I should always think that I have to enable another plugin? | 11:34 |
| vgridnev | What if this number will grow up to 10 plugins? | 11:34 |
| ramishra | vgridnev: Anyway, only magnum has moved to use the heat plugin in this cycle, We can hold on to the devstack patch(removal of heat code) and you can propose your approach in Ocata. | 11:35 |
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| therve | Yeah I don't see any urgency to remove heat from devstack tree | 12:17 |
| ramishra | therve: We're not pushing for it, it's QA team that had a plan to get it done this cycle. So they are following up with other projects to do it. | 12:23 |
| therve | ramishra, QA team? | 12:24 |
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| ramishra | devstack is in QA project... I don't know. openstack-qa?? | 12:26 |
| therve | If they plan to get it done, they should provide solutions for people using it | 12:26 |
| therve | Breaking everyone seems like a stupid way to get a plan done | 12:27 |
| therve | ramishra, Can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370498/ ? | 12:28 |
| therve | That'd be a good one to get into rc1 | 12:28 |
| ramishra | I don't think they are planning to remove it just like that. There is a way and some projects have done it, some others are resisting. | 12:29 |
| ramishra | therve: done! | 12:33 |
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| zaneb | therve: what's on fire that I can help with? | 12:40 |
| therve | zaneb, Not much actually | 12:40 |
| zaneb | sweet | 12:40 |
| therve | I came in peace with the fact we'll have a rc2 :) | 12:40 |
| therve | Those convergence fixes are still pretty important, to be fair | 12:41 |
| zaneb | there's *always* an rc2 | 12:41 |
| zaneb | agree. patches look good though. I can't figure out what's going wrong | 12:41 |
| ramishra | zaneb: I tested it locally it seems to work at times, looks to me it rollback does not happen after this error http://logs.openstack.org/90/306490/13/check/gate-heat-dsvm-functional-convg-mysql-lbaasv2/6091e46/logs/screen-h-eng.txt.gz#_2016-09-14_20_14_23_637 | 12:43 |
| ramishra | though I may be completely wrong:) | 12:44 |
| zaneb | ramishra: we need to fix that log message, because that "error" is expected | 12:44 |
| therve | ramishra, Because it's waiting for the previous task to end, no? | 12:44 |
| zaneb | ramishra: but yes, that makes sense | 12:45 |
| zaneb | you get that log message when a traversal (in this case the rollback traversal) hits a resource that is locked | 12:45 |
| zaneb | it's supposed to retrigger after the lock is released, but it's not | 12:46 |
| zaneb | that's the bug | 12:46 |
| zaneb | in your testing, it may well be completing so fast that it is already unlocked again by the time the rollback starts | 12:47 |
| ramishra | zaneb: yeah, I was going to say that, the check_resource is not retrigerred. | 12:47 |
| zaneb | most of the time | 12:47 |
| ramishra | yep | 12:47 |
| zaneb | so in ananta's previous patchset there was a bit of code that stopped it from retriggering. but then he took that out and it's still not working. so I am officially confused | 12:48 |
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| therve | In my tests, the check_resource was retriggerred | 12:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Make get_attr consistent across template versions https://review.openstack.org/370498 | 13:26 |
| therve | Sweet | 13:32 |
| therve | That's RC1 if no one complains | 13:32 |
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| cmartin | If I wanted to submit/propose a new blueprint how would I go about doing that? Do I need to discuss it here? | 14:17 |
| cmartin | The BP is to update the nova flavor resource type to support private flavor association with multiple tenants | 14:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Don't log locked resource ERROR level https://review.openstack.org/370873 | 14:21 |
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| zaneb | cmartin: propose it as a review to the heat-specs repository | 14:25 |
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| cmartin | zaneb: alright will do thanks | 14:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/heat: Update reno for stable/newton https://review.openstack.org/370883 | 14:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Cancel traversal of nested stack https://review.openstack.org/370123 | 14:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Allow update inplace for allowed_address_pairs https://review.openstack.org/370603 | 15:08 |
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| vgridnev | ramishra, FYI feature to devstack that allows dependencies for plugins seems working correctly (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370658/) | 15:56 |
| vgridnev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370851/ | 15:57 |
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| Ukesh | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1508739 | 16:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1508739 in heat "Unknown Property "binding:profile" error when create port" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Ukesh (ukeshkumar) | 16:11 |
| Ukesh | Could anyone review the code | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Allow update inplace for allowed_address_pairs https://review.openstack.org/370603 | 16:41 |
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| maishsk | Good evening to you all | 17:00 |
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| maishsk | Looking at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Cinder::Volume | 17:01 |
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| maishsk | I see that it has a http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Cinder::Volume-prop-volume_type | 17:01 |
| maishsk | What happens when this property is not defined when creating a new volume? | 17:02 |
| maishsk | And I more than a single volume type available in my envrionment | 17:03 |
| zaneb | maishsk: the same thing that happens when you call cinder volume-create without passing a volume_type | 17:03 |
| zaneb | whatever that is | 17:03 |
| maishsk | OK | 17:03 |
| maishsk | so I gues I should take this to a cinder channel | 17:04 |
| maishsk | :) | 17:04 |
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| ramishra | maishsk: I think there is a default_volume_type in your cinder.conf and that is used. | 17:08 |
| maishsk | yup - it seems so | 17:08 |
| maishsk | So let me ask when creating a volume - and I use volume_type - is there any way to set that to the default (Without knowing what is actually in the cinder.conf) | 17:09 |
| ramishra | Not sure I understand. Default for all volumes to be created? I don't think that would be possible. but surely you can ask to the cinder folks. | 17:12 |
| maishsk | Let me see if I can explain | 17:14 |
| maishsk | I would like to set the volume_type through a parameter. That parameter will be defined in an environment file and called when the stack is created. | 17:15 |
| maishsk | For each parameter - I can set a default - if it is not defined | 17:16 |
| maishsk | but that default has to be a string (according to the documentation) | 17:16 |
| maishsk | if it is not used in the heat template then a volume will be created according to what is present in cinder.conf | 17:17 |
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| maishsk | but if it is used - it will have to defined - and my question is - is there a default that I can use - that will state that this shuld be whatever is defined in Cinder | 17:18 |
| maishsk | And the problem is that the default - will not be same in each environment that I use - so I want to understand if this is possible | 17:21 |
| ramishra | you can have a parameter_default in your environment for volume_type(which you want to be the default) and the pass parameter for a specific volume_type if you want something different and the use that parameter with get_param in the volume resource. | 17:23 |
| maishsk | ramishra: The question is - what would I set that default to be | 17:24 |
| maishsk | because that default would not be same for each env. | 17:24 |
| ramishra | I don't know. whatever you want as default(when not specified) | 17:25 |
| maishsk | But I will not know in advance | 17:25 |
| ramishra | yeah you can change it in your env file whenever you want. | 17:25 |
| maishsk | when requesting a cinder volume - it asks for the default - I do not have to specify | 17:25 |
| maishsk | it does not * | 17:26 |
| maishsk | Maybe another example will explain | 17:27 |
| maishsk | when deploying an instance - and I do not request any specfic AZ - the instance is spawned on the single AZ that exists | 17:28 |
| maishsk | What happens when there are multiple AZ's | 17:28 |
| maishsk | when I spawn an instance - where will it go? | 17:28 |
| maishsk | I assume that there is a setting in nova (like in cinder) to declare the default | 17:29 |
| maishsk | that means if I define a default in my heat template - with a specific value - there is a chance that when I run this template in an environment where that AZ name does not exist - | 17:30 |
| maishsk | then it will fail | 17:30 |
| ramishra | I think what you are asking is, optionally specify that property for the volume resources. I am not sure that's possible. | 17:30 |
| maishsk | zaneb: Any thoughts? | 17:31 |
| maishsk | ramishra: I think that is probably what I am asking | 17:31 |
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| zaneb | maishsk: for AZ's specifically you should pretty much always specify the volume AZ by getting the AZ of the instance using get_attr | 17:33 |
| maishsk | Is it possible to optionally specify a property for a resource type? | 17:34 |
| zaneb | you can always pass null if you want the default value, but I'm not sure how the parameter validation would react to that being passed as a parameter value | 17:36 |
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| maishsk | cinder help create | 17:41 |
| maishsk | --volume-type <volume-type> | 17:41 |
| maishsk | Volume type. Default=None. | 17:41 |
| maishsk | the request looking like it asks for a null type | 17:42 |
| maishsk | {"volume": {"status": "creating", "user_id": null, "name": "test_vol", "imageRef": null, "availability_zone": null, "description": null, "multiattach": false, "attach_status": "detached", "volume_type": null, "metadata": {}, "consistencygroup_id": null, "source_volid": null, "snapshot_id": null, "project_id": null, "source_replica": null, "size": 1}}' | 17:42 |
| maishsk | or at least it passes a null by default | 17:43 |
| maishsk | you mean parameter validation in heat? | 17:43 |
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| zaneb | yes | 17:52 |
| maishsk | Besides trial and error - is there any way that I can find out what the behavior will be? | 17:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/371097 | 20:19 |
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| ying_zuo | Hello, this patch has been around for a while. Can someone please take a look? Thanks. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303628 | 20:49 |
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