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rawanh | Hi, is there a way to trigger hiera yaml files generation as a first boot script in the heat templates ? | 06:56 |
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rawanh | because I have a first boot script that depends on /etc/puppet/hieradata/extraconfig.yaml | 07:16 |
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rawanh | Hi, is there a way to trigger hiera yaml files generation as a first boot script in the heat templates ? because I have a first boot script that depends on /etc/puppet/hieradata/extraconfig.yaml | 07:47 |
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therve | shardy, Could you explain a bit how tripleo uses ResourceChain? | 09:00 |
therve | I thought it could be replaced now that you use jinja, but it sounds one step deeper | 09:00 |
shardy | therve: sure, we use it to combine a bunch of service templates e.g puppet/services/*.yaml | 09:01 |
shardy | so that we can join together e.g maps containing hieradata (config_settings) and puppet manifest fragments (step_config) | 09:01 |
shardy | therve: possibly we could do it with jinja, but we tried to do it all with heat interfaces | 09:01 |
shardy | only the custom roles stuff proved to difficult at this point | 09:01 |
shardy | so we had to use jinja for that | 09:02 |
therve | shardy, It seems you would need to generate new yaml files, instead of just sections | 09:02 |
therve | Which may be problematic | 09:02 |
shardy | therve: Yeah, tbh the resource chain interface works really well for this | 09:02 |
shardy | as we have the templates, we just need a way to combine their outputs | 09:03 |
therve | shardy, Right, it works well, but it looks like a source of memory issue | 09:03 |
therve | There is no easy way to optimize it, as the interface is so open | 09:03 |
shardy | therve: really? All we're doing is doing some static data manipulation | 09:03 |
shardy | most of the templates don't even have any resources in them | 09:03 |
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therve | Yeah, but we need to keep track of all the nested stacks in memory to resolve chain attributes | 09:04 |
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shardy | therve: Hey, sorry was in a meeting | 09:27 |
shardy | so, can't we avoid the nested stacks in memory problem by decoupling via RPC? | 09:27 |
shardy | I saw your patch for that and assumed it would help when we've got deeply nested stacks like this | 09:27 |
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therve | shardy, It helps when you have outputs | 09:34 |
therve | shardy, But the {get_attr: [ServiceChain, role_data]} needs to load the nested stack | 09:35 |
therve | AFAIU it needs to get on all the resource in the chain and get the role_data output | 09:39 |
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hkominos | hello all. Is this the right place for openstack questions? | 09:43 |
hkominos | (openstack-heat of course) | 09:44 |
shardy | therve: Ok, so the problem is we need to re-resolve the outputs, because we don't store them | 09:47 |
shardy | IMO we should just store the outputs when a stack changes state | 09:47 |
therve | shardy, Yeah, presumably. Zane mentioned something along those lines | 09:47 |
shardy | hkominos: yes, welcome | 09:47 |
therve | Not something we can backport, though | 09:47 |
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hkominos | two small questions. I read somewhere that get_file does nto support other intrisic functions. For example . user_data: {get_file: { get_param: git_init_script_name } } will not work. Is taht the default behaviour still? | 09:49 |
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shardy | therve: Yeah, although perhaps we can avoid having to load them multiple times, e.g we only really need to re-resolve that get_attr when a stack object is doing something (e.g handling a create/update), is part of the problem that we re-resolve it and load all the stacks whenever we poll for state via stack-show? | 09:50 |
shardy | I'm wondering if we could limit introspection calls to only show stored parameter/property values and not attempt to resolve all-the-things | 09:50 |
therve | shardy, I don't think so, because stack-show is balanced across workers | 09:50 |
shardy | hrm | 09:51 |
therve | So the memory impact is limited, compared to the main creation worker | 09:51 |
shardy | hkominos: Yes, that can't really be fixed because get_file is resolved in the client, and get_param is resolved (later) in the server | 09:51 |
hkominos | ok thx! | 09:51 |
therve | shardy, That said, I think we're out of quick wins, so anything can help. | 09:52 |
shardy | hkominos: a workarounds is to put the get_file into a nested template, which can be easily substituted by changing a resource_registry alias in the environment (instead of your init_script_name parameter | 09:52 |
hkominos | thx. I will check it out! | 09:53 |
shardy | hkominos: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/environment.html#mapping-resources | 09:53 |
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Trippler | I have an autoscaling group defined where the OS::Nova::Server resource is defined in its own file, linked through the resource_registry in the environment file. The instance has defined {get_param: "OS::stack_id"} as metadata, but upon creation it gets a different id from the stack. Everything in the main HOT file gets the correct id. Is this intended behaviour? | 11:06 |
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Trippler | This is on Mitaka. Removing the metadata line removes the property from the created instance; and with the line it gets *an* id - just not the correct one. The line I'm using in the properties is 'metadata: {"metering.stack": {get_param: "OS::stack_id"}}' which by my logic should give the stack id, and not a new random id. | 11:11 |
therve | Trippler, I *think* so. You need to pass OS::stack_id as a property of your group. Using get_param in the file retrieves the local stack id, not the main one | 11:12 |
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therve | See https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml#L79 | 11:13 |
Trippler | Hmm, alright - then I have misunderstood that part slightly - do you happen to have any good links on how to pass properties to resources? | 11:13 |
Trippler | That is basically what I was following, but put the instance definition into its own file. | 11:14 |
therve | This also has the instance definition in its own file :) | 11:14 |
therve | type: lb_server.yaml | 11:14 |
Trippler | Ah yes, I will try some more things. Thanks for your help! | 11:15 |
therve | No problem | 11:15 |
hkominos | hello again openstackers. quick question. | 11:22 |
hkominos | I have a cloud-init script which adds users. (and does not have teh default user). IS it possible in the heat template to specify the user which will be associated with the ssh key which will be inserted by openstack? | 11:23 |
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therve | hkominos, So, AFAIU openstack doesn't associate the key to a user. It makes the key available to the instance via metadata | 11:31 |
therve | cloudinit is the thing associating the key | 11:31 |
hkominos | So if I insert a cloud -init script i must somehow manage this inserted key in the script? | 11:37 |
openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Aodh::EventAlarm resource https://review.openstack.org/381057 | 11:41 |
therve | hkominos, I think if you mark one of the user as "default" it should use that one for the key | 11:45 |
hkominos | is that even possible? I cant see it as an option the docs! | 11:46 |
therve | Well, cloudinit docs are not super great | 11:46 |
therve | But that's what https://git.launchpad.net/cloud-init/tree/cloudinit/distros/__init__.py#n935 seems to tell me | 11:47 |
hkominos | users: - name: master default: true | 11:49 |
hkominos | something like this? | 11:49 |
therve | Yeah | 11:49 |
hkominos | lets try. I think i did that yesterday and it did not work. I ll try again | 11:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Aodh::EventAlarm resource https://review.openstack.org/381057 | 11:56 |
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hkominos | ok the default tag did not work | 12:15 |
hkominos | although it should have | 12:15 |
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therve | OK, then I don't know. You can surely do what you want with a script | 12:16 |
hkominos | True. It is just this is weird behaviour. The ssh key just does not get inserted for no reason :P | 12:18 |
therve | Well there is probably a reason. Cloud-init devs may know it. | 12:19 |
therve | hkominos, You can try with the default_user section too maybe | 12:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Fix help string for osc resource show <resource> https://review.openstack.org/385479 | 13:40 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Fix help string for osc resource show <resource> https://review.openstack.org/385479 | 13:41 |
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therve | shardy, Something that will *not* improve memory, but may improve perf a bit, is enabling caching | 13:55 |
therve | It can speed up some operations, and if you use the memcache backend it won't be a memory hit | 13:55 |
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shardy | therve: ack, that sounds like it's worth trying | 13:56 |
shardy | therve: did you have a wip patch for you OS::Heat::Value stuff somewhere? | 13:56 |
shardy | I was interested in following up on that so we don't break if/when the output validation patches land | 13:57 |
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therve | shardy, http://paste.openstack.org/show/585460/ | 13:57 |
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therve | The output validation ought to happen after complete, AFAIU | 13:58 |
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shardy | therve: thanks | 13:58 |
openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Sahara::Job resource https://review.openstack.org/231080 | 13:59 |
rawanh | How can we run HieraDeployment: type: OS::Heat::StructuredDeployment on all servers in the current deployment ? | 14:02 |
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therve | rawanh, Can you clarify "current deployment"? | 14:03 |
rawanh | therve, if we have an already deployed overcloud env, and i'm running a new overcloud deployment over another set of servers, can i tell the heat to run this OS::Heat::StructuredDeployment on all servers id's in this deployment | 14:05 |
therve | It's still not really clear, but anyway | 14:06 |
therve | rawanh, Use a StructuredDeploymentGroup and pass the servers in the corresponding property | 14:07 |
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rawanh | therve, ok, what if i don't know the servers ids ? or I don't want to count and list? is there something that would tell heat, do it to all servers ? | 14:09 |
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therve | rawanh, If you had been more clear I could have told you :) | 14:10 |
therve | But either your are in the same stack/template, and you can pass reference around | 14:10 |
therve | Or you need to pass them as parameters | 14:10 |
rawanh | threve, how can we pass like a reference around to all servers ids in the stack/template ? | 14:12 |
therve | Track them | 14:13 |
therve | There is nothing magic that will get them for you | 14:13 |
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rawanh | therve, excuse me for my questions but i'm a little bit a beginner in this, what is the command that shows the servers ids before overcloud deployment ? | 14:16 |
therve | rawanh, I don't know | 14:19 |
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rawanh | therve, ok thank you | 14:20 |
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zaneb | shardy: fwiw, afaik get_param works fine inside get_file, as long as you explicitly upload all of the possible files. it's the automatic including of files from the client that doesn't work | 14:27 |
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shardy | zaneb: Yup, my point was that the client doesn't know how to resolve the get_param so it's likely the files will be missing from the files map | 14:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat: Add get_job_executions_by_id to sahara client https://review.openstack.org/385505 | 14:44 |
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ramishra | hi all, weekly meeting in 10 mins at #openstack-meeting-4. agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-10-12_1500_UTC.29 | 14:52 |
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ramishra | zaneb, shardy, skraynev, Qiming meeting time. | 15:02 |
zaneb | thanks :) | 15:03 |
ramishra | duvarenkov, huangtianhua ^^^ | 15:03 |
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therve | zaneb, yaql is definitely a good culprit on the memory usage | 16:03 |
therve | Considering how simple things like contexts improve stuff | 16:03 |
therve | I don't have a strong number, though | 16:03 |
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zaneb | I knew we would regret adding yaql | 16:05 |
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zaneb | I didn't know this would be why though. what is it doing that chews up so much RAM? | 16:06 |
therve | Using python :/ | 16:08 |
therve | One ocata goal would be to see what tripleo is doing with yaql, and replace it with regular hot functions | 16:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Pass insecure and ca_certificate option for cfn transport https://review.openstack.org/285959 | 22:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Pass insecure and ca_certificate option for cfn transport https://review.openstack.org/285959 | 22:39 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/385654 | 22:46 |
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