Thursday, 2016-12-15

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stingaciHello all. I'm trying to use the repeat function to open ports based upon a input parameter for the tcp protocol. I managed to do this just fine, however I'm also trying to add a static rule for icmp traffic, regardless if any ports were provided as input.01:59
stingacibasically something like01:59
stingaci      rules:01:59
stingaci        repeat:01:59
stingaci          for_each:01:59
stingaci            <%port%>: { get_param: ports }01:59
stingaci          template:01:59
stingaci            protocol: tcp01:59
stingaci            port_range_min: <%port%>01:59
stingaci            port_range_max: <%port%>01:59
stingaci         - protocol: icmp01:59
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stingacithis fails with a parser error, but I hope this illustrates what I'm trying to do02:01
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stingaciany idea on how to achieve this?02:01
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openstackgerritshizhihui proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add functinoal tests for 'openstack stack snapshot delete'  https://review.openstack.org/41102902:12
stingaciThe only solution I found was to add another separate security group for icmp traffic and associate them both with the port on the instance02:13
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openstackgerritliangshang proposed openstack/heat: Docs of configuring Devstack to enable heat  https://review.openstack.org/41103102:16
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openstackgerritshizhihui proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add extra functinoal tests in heatclient  https://review.openstack.org/41006302:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Do not set the mime-type for userdata  https://review.openstack.org/40046403:10
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/41105703:47
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/41107803:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/41107804:38
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openstackgerritCrag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Store stack outputs in the db  https://review.openstack.org/40732604:49
zhihuihi all, could someone help me explain it     why not the VM image can not be downloaded as " http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/getting_started/on_devstack.html"04:51
zhihuithe link could not be found:       http://download.fedoraproject.org//pub/fedora/linux/releases/21/Cloud/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Cloud-Base-20141203-21.x86_64.qcow204:53
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Update fedora image in devstack  https://review.openstack.org/41110405:07
ricolinzhihui: use this new path https://review.openstack.org/411104 , it should be okey.05:08
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zhihuiricolin: get it, thanks for your reply.05:10
ricolinzhihui: NP05:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/41105705:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Correct response of template-version-list  https://review.openstack.org/41057406:21
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openstackgerritTuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/heat: Avoid Forcing the Translation of Translatable Variables  https://review.openstack.org/37844506:28
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Allows to create x509 keypair  https://review.openstack.org/40740306:44
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namnhramishra, Hi RaBi, Are you free? Could you give me several minutes?07:06
ramishranamnh: hi07:07
namnhramishra, I am Nam who discussed with you about vhost solution. After reseaching about the vhost solution in Rabbitmq, I wrote down a solution in my understanding [1]. Is that solution which Heat tends to think to follow?07:08
namnhramishra, [1] https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6UOpxQIQbOXV0MtODhlLU9ycjA/view07:08
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ramishranamnh: there is already a spec, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407989/07:09
ramishraIt's in review. But, that's what we probably would do to start with.07:10
namnhramishra, Ohh. great.. I will read it.07:11
namnhramishra, How about the document?07:12
namnhramishra, It that idea for RPC in Heat?07:12
namnhramishra, Is that idea for RPC in Heat?07:12
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ramishraYour doc seems mostly inline with what is there in the spec.07:13
namnhramishra, :) I don't know your patch set until your message.07:15
namnhramishra, I will read it right now :)07:15
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openstackgerritCrag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Add resource_properties_data data migration  https://review.openstack.org/36190007:22
openstackgerritCrag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Subcommand to migrate legacy properties data  https://review.openstack.org/36471007:22
openstackgerritCrag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Add the ResourcePropertiesData object  https://review.openstack.org/36190107:22
openstackgerritCrag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: One transaction per encrypt/decrypt batch  https://review.openstack.org/36229007:23
openstackgerritCrag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Refactor batch encrypt/decrpyts of params, props  https://review.openstack.org/36190207:23
openstackgerritCrag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Add resource_properties_data assoc. to resource, event objs  https://review.openstack.org/36266107:23
openstackgerritCrag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: De-duplicate properties_data between events, resources  https://review.openstack.org/36341507:23
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namnhramishra, If I do the steps as your patch set, we can upgrade Heat with minimal downtime, is that right :)07:31
namnhramishra, do you think we need to add the pdf which I sent to you. I think this will help the reivers is easy to image :)07:35
namnhs/is/are/07:35
ramishranamnh: it depends on how you define downtime. heat would be available during the upgrade, but with reduced capacity(offline nodes for upgrade).07:36
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openstackgerritshizhihui proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add extra functinoal tests in heatclient  https://review.openstack.org/41006307:46
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Allows to create x509 keypair  https://review.openstack.org/40740308:42
namnhramishra, I see, btw how you think about my above question? :)08:44
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namnhramishra, are you around?09:07
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ramishranamnh: yeah, you mean adding the pdf link to the spec?09:09
namnhramishra, Yes, or I can create a image by .txt and you can add the image to your patch. Because i just want to thanks for your conversation.09:11
namnhramishra, :)09:11
ramishraI think the spec is quite simple and it seems most of us are ok with it. May be you can create a wiki page with the digrams you have or send it to ML for feedback?09:12
ramishradiagrams09:12
namnhramishra, I have not ever created a wiki page, if I will try to do it if necessary :)09:19
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therveshardy, Commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1649900 btw, wondering if that was a blocker for you10:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1649900 in heat "Can't use conditions with depends_on" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to huangtianhua (huangtianhua)10:32
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shardytherve: Hey, thanks for the comment - not really a blocker, more of an inconvenience10:41
therveOK10:42
therveInterested on your response on my comment there too10:42
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shardytherve: Yeah I'm fine with the workaround, but I don't agree that the two templates aren't the same - all I'll do is make the no-op additional resource an OS::Heat::None, which seems like a kind of ugly pattern10:44
shardyI guess it would be different if you wanted two non-noop paths tho10:44
shardythis kind of stuff is why we resisted conditionals in HOT for so long ;)10:45
therveI'm not really following you there10:45
therveMy main point is that depending on a resource that is not created should not create the resource10:45
therveBut it's a grey area10:46
shardyYes but if the graph is 1 -> (2) -> 3, when (2) is disabled, surely that should resolve to 1 -> 3 ?10:47
therveI don't see why it matters there is a 110:47
therveIf you do (2) -> 3, should 3 be created all the time?10:48
shardytherve: tbh I'd be fine if the second example worked, e.g allow conditionals to be evaluated inside depends_on10:48
shardyyes, 1 and 3 don't have any condition, so they should always be created10:48
shardythe only thing to resolve is the ordering10:48
therveThat's not the first solution that comes to me.10:49
therveBut I see your reasoning10:49
therveThough depends_on is not just an order mechanism, it's also "wait for that other thing to succeed" mechanism10:50
shardyI'm fine if we decide the derived depends_on in the first example is a step too far, but I kinda feel like if we have conditionals, they should work everywhere10:50
shardye.g including in depends_on10:50
therveI believe that's reasonable, because that ought to be statically resolvable10:50
therveI think we didn't resolve depends_on to not get into graph management hell10:51
shardyhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/592445/10:51
shardyOk so to clarify ^^ is your preferred solution?10:51
therveshardy, I hadn't even think of that :). With current master, I think so. If we can manage conditions in depends_on, I liked your 2nd template in the bug.10:53
shardytherve: ah, I thought that was what you were hinting at in your comment - it does work, but the syntax is kind of yuk10:54
therveI'm a bit wary with making the first one work, because it's a bit confusing10:54
shardytherve: ack, that's fine - I'd be happy if we can make the second one work then call it fixed :)10:54
shardythanks for the feedback!10:54
therveshardy, Yeah my comment was conditionally define three, not two.10:55
shardytherve: Yeah, but you can't have a different name when there's a chain of depends_on's10:55
shardyor you're back to the problem with the second example I gave10:55
therveTrue10:55
shardyhappily duplicating the resource name works, even if it doesn't look very nice :)10:56
shardyoh wait10:56
shardyno it doesn't10:56
shardyyaml will just drop the first one :(10:56
* shardy reworks his templates to just use bash conditionals instead10:57
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add sahara constraints  https://review.openstack.org/37584711:01
openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add translation rules for OS::Sahara::Job  https://review.openstack.org/39771911:01
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therve:(11:03
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openstackgerritzengchen proposed openstack/heat: Update the constraint value of schema 'ACCESS_TYPE' for Manila share  https://review.openstack.org/40973911:11
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shardytherve, ramishra: Any chance you (or any other cores) could please check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347505 ?13:50
shardydprince needs it for his heat-all use-case for the TripleO undercloud13:50
therveshardy, I don't really understand how it works, and I don't really like it, so I'm going for a passive stance for now13:52
therveMaybe I forgot, but I can't see how that makes trusts management possible13:53
dprincetherve: hi, so it is a bit odd now I agree. Especially since my approach to the new t-h-t undercloud isntaller uses a fake keystone anyway13:53
dprincetherve: I tried without noauth again this morning and Heat seems to be trying to validate the presence of the cloudforms endpoint in my catalog http://paste.openstack.org/show/592479/13:53
dprincetherve: I'm not running cloudforms... nor do I want to13:53
dprincetherve: furthermore I'm setting my default signal to use Heat API anyway13:54
thervedprince, cloud *formation* :)13:54
therveYou scared me a little bit13:54
dprincetherve: ah, yes. formation13:54
dprincetherve: default_deployment_signal_transport = HEAT_SIGNAL13:54
dprincetherve: that is what I set. So the error I get in the above paste link is perplexing to me13:54
shardytherve: fair enough, I don't think this solves all those problems, but it's a first step to running without keystone13:54
shardywe have some other auth options like password for standalone operation, so I don't really see the harm in a noauth version for specialist use-cases and testing13:55
therveshardy, Sure, but I'd like the step to be in right direction :)13:55
therveI'd be happy to approve if I understood what the direction is13:55
shardytherve: well, the aim is to run without any keystone, so standalone heat can run with no auth in environments where that is appropriate13:56
dprincetherve: noauth is weird for heat. But I don't think it in any way harms anything. It would actually enable testing heat-all in some cases with no keystone13:56
dprincetherve: very limited resources of course13:56
therveshardy, So what happens when we create a stack. Isn't the first thing we do trying to create a trust?13:56
dprincetherve: I don't think you create trusts unless there is a deployment resource or something13:57
shardytherve: yeah we'll probably need a special keystone client plugin too - there was one in contrib which disabled trusts a while back IIRC13:57
dprincetherve: could be wrong, been awhile since I checked13:57
therveshardy, The v2 one I guess, still around13:57
therveI guess you can change that with setting deferred_auth_methods13:59
thervedprince, shardy : what about the stack domain project? I think we do that unconditionally nowadays13:59
shardytherve: yeah, we do always create a trust, but deferred_auth_method = password should solve that13:59
shardytherve: not if the stack domain credentials aren't set in the heat.conf14:00
dprinceshardy: I'm already using that FWIW (defferred_auth_method = password)14:00
dprinceshardy, therve: my config is around line 114 here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351351/12/tripleoclient/v1/undercloud_deploy.py14:00
therveshardy, Ah, legacy fallback, okay14:01
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therveOK, I'll look at it again then14:06
thervedprince, So about that error14:08
therveEven if you set the default, it's possible your template change the value?14:08
dprincetherve: I don't think so14:09
dprincetherve: maybe?14:09
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therveHum wait14:10
thervedprince, You don't have keystone, so what checks service availability?14:10
dprincetherve: could be that SoftwareConfigTransport is set to POLL_CFN14:11
therveCould be14:12
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dprincetherve: I tried setting an explicit SoftwareConfigTransport: POLL_SERVER_HEAT for t-h-t and it had no effect on the error. I still hit "heat cloudformation endpoint is not in service catalog."14:15
thervedprince, So it's possible the error message is wrong, but the problem is still present14:16
thervedprince, What checks service availability with no keystone?14:16
dprincetherve: I have a keystone. I is just minimal14:17
dprincetherve: and heat.conf has sections to configure client access directly14:17
dprincetherve: clients_14:17
thervedprince, Right but for example the catalog in no-auth is set to {}14:17
dprincetherve: exactly14:18
thervedprince, The fact that the conf file is configured doesn't matter if the catalog isn't14:18
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dprincetherve: I think it matters for keystone client itself, but maybe not the other ones14:20
thervedprince, At some point, heat is going to call keystone_session.get_endpoint(). And it needs to return a URL14:21
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therveFor some reasons we don't use the value from the configuration in that case14:24
therveOh but only heat can be configured that way14:25
therveI suspect heat standalone doesn't work anymore then14:26
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zanebtherve: I guess you can answer this now then: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/99414/is-heat-standalonemulti-clouds-an-active-feature/ ;)14:32
dprincetherve: I'm happy to learn all the intricasies of mking heat avoid this or that. I really am. But many other OS projects have noauth middlwares and I think it is a safe approach.14:33
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dprincetherve: if I need to I can inline this in tripleo I guess too if I need it in a pinch14:34
thervedprince, No other project uses keystone as much as we do, so I don't think that's fair14:34
therveI'm happy to approve the noauth patch if it works14:35
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therveBut apparently you just hit another blocker, which I'm trying to understand14:35
dprincetherve: thanks, agree heat does use a lot of keystone features14:40
dprincetherve: mistral is probably a similar territory too I think14:40
therveI guess they need endpoints, and use trusts. Don't use domain users though :)14:43
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therveFor now I still think that running keystone would be better. But I won't do the work, so I won't block yours either.14:45
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MandiraHi15:30
MandiraAll15:30
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MandiraI am stuck in getting heat configuration,could anyone help15:30
Mandira???15:30
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MandiraHow I changed amqp server IP??15:37
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therveMandira, Change the transport_url value in heat.conf15:42
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openstackgerritChristopher Martin proposed openstack/heat: Nova Flavor Resource Update  https://review.openstack.org/39459616:43
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openstackgerritCrag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Store stack outputs in the db  https://review.openstack.org/40732619:01
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stingaciHello. While trying to use SoftwareConfigs, I've managed to understand the relationship between the 'group' attribute and the heat hooks built into the image you're deploying. However I can't seem to find any documentation explaining what 'group=ungrouped' does. Does it try to determine the hook type automatically?19:34
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stingaciAlso, is my understanding correct? If you associate a SoftwareConfig resource directly to the 'user_data' attribute of a resource directly, the instance will use cloud-init to apply the configuration, but if you use a SoftwareDeployment to associate a SoftwareConfig to a resource then the instance will use heat-config to apply the configuration (in which case the 'group' attribute is irrelevant).19:49
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zanebthe group attribute is definitely relevant to sw deployments19:55
stingaciOops I meant the group attribute is irelevant if you pass it in user_data19:56
zanebthat's possible20:00
zanebstevebaker would know the details20:00
stevebakerwha?20:00
stingacifrom my understanding there's two ways to configure an instance post-deployment20:01
stevebakerstingaci: correct, group is ignored for user_data, and a group value which has no corresponding hook is ignored for deployments20:02
stingaciaha20:02
stingaciand for user_data cloud init is used20:02
stingaciwhile SoftwareDeployments will use heat-config correct?20:02
stevebakerstingaci: yes, for user_data I'd recommend user_data_format:RAW, then you can build your own cloud init chain of work with OS::Heat::MultipartMime, OS::Heat::CloudConfig, OS::Heat::SoftwareConfig20:04
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stingaciawesome. Makes sense20:05
stingaciand lastly, for the 'ungrouped' value of the 'group' attribute while using SoftwareDeployments20:05
stingaciwill that SoftwareConfig be ignored? or will it attempt to determine the hook it should use20:06
zaneb"a group value which has no corresponding hook is ignored for deployments" <- I assume that applies20:07
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stingaciFair enough. Thanks for all your help guys.20:08
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oscar__Hello, is there a way to run a command after a heat template is completed within the heat template?20:15
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Pavodoes anyone know how to mark a network as external in heat?20:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Add noauth middleware  https://review.openstack.org/34750522:08
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Use urllib to correctly escape URLs for Zaqar queues  https://review.openstack.org/41152422:31
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openstackgerritCrag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Store stack outputs in the db  https://review.openstack.org/40732623:23
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