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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Make number of workers configurable with apache https://review.openstack.org/418906 | 02:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Make API services with apache the default https://review.openstack.org/418651 | 02:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Set content-type when signaling deployment https://review.openstack.org/419244 | 02:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Default to Glance v2 https://review.openstack.org/418987 | 03:33 |
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| wllabs | OS::Ceilometer::Alarm cpu_util mean ? | 03:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add port_security_enabled property to ProviderNet https://review.openstack.org/419286 | 05:32 |
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| wllabs | newton verstion don't have LBaaS resource type ? | 09:27 |
| wllabs | newton verstion of heat don't have LBaaS resource type ? | 09:28 |
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| therve | wllabs, It should | 09:45 |
| wllabs | how to use load balance on newton verson of heat | 09:47 |
| wllabs | ? | 09:47 |
| therve | Well put the resources in a template? | 09:47 |
| wllabs | which resource type to use? | 09:48 |
| therve | The ones in the OS::Neutron::LBaaS namespace | 09:49 |
| therve | You generally need at least one Pool, one LoadBalancer, and one Listener | 09:49 |
| wllabs | openstack orchestration resource type show OS::Neutron::LBaaS::Pool | 09:50 |
| wllabs | ERROR: HEAT-E99001 Service neutron is not available for resource type OS::Neutron::LBaaS::Pool, reason: Service endpoint not in service catalog. | 09:50 |
| wllabs | This error is that there is no such resource type? | 09:51 |
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| therve | That means you don't have neutron lbaas in your cloud | 09:51 |
| therve | Or it's not setup properly | 09:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add 'loadbalancer' property to lbassv2 pool https://review.openstack.org/419377 | 09:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add 'default_pool' property to lbaasv2 listener https://review.openstack.org/419377 | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add 'pools' attribute to lbaasv2 loadbalancer https://review.openstack.org/419383 | 10:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add 'pools' attribute to lbaasv2 loadbalancer https://review.openstack.org/419383 | 10:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add 'loadbalancer' property to lbassv2 pool https://review.openstack.org/419377 | 10:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add default_pool property to lbaasv2 listener https://review.openstack.org/419385 | 10:08 |
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| ramishra | therve: Hi | 10:33 |
| therve | ramishra, Hi! | 10:33 |
| ramishra | therve: did you by any chance notice https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418651/? | 10:34 |
| therve | ramishra, Yep | 10:34 |
| ramishra | So all tests are now going through. I just conditionally skipped the sighup test. | 10:35 |
| therve | Yeah that makes sense | 10:35 |
| therve | ramishra, Why are you doing that though? :) | 10:35 |
| ramishra | We were not testing integration tests with apache. | 10:36 |
| ramishra | I noticed a bug with one test and fixed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419244/ | 10:36 |
| therve | Sure but with that patch we *only* test it, no? | 10:36 |
| ramishra | I was thinking we'll run api services with apache for all jobs and one without it. | 10:37 |
| ramishra | the current job for apache does not test any of our tests. | 10:38 |
| therve | Yeah it's kind of useless | 10:38 |
| ramishra | so make it the default like other services keystone,aodh, nova | 10:38 |
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| therve | It's better than before when it wasn't using apache at all though :) | 10:39 |
| therve | But cool, if you plan to keep one job not using mod_wsgi I agree | 10:40 |
| ramishra | yes | 10:40 |
| ramishra | Btw, the jobs in that patch were faster , though it may be faster nodes;) | 10:41 |
| therve | Yeah don't open the champagne just yet | 10:42 |
| ramishra | :) | 10:42 |
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| prazumovsky | therve, ramishra, zaneb, shardy, tiantian: hi! Could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415849/ ? It's cancel-update nova server issue fix | 10:47 |
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| stingaci | Hello all. Does anyone know how I can group or order stack outputs? It seems that the order in which the outputs are defined in the template is not respected by the `stack output list` command | 10:51 |
| stingaci | `stack output show` command ** | 10:52 |
| therve | stingaci, There is no way | 10:54 |
| therve | I'd be interested to know why you care, though | 10:54 |
| stingaci | Simply for readability purposes. I have created a bunch of SoftwareConfigurations using SoftwareDeployments for a bunch of packages/actions. Each package action has its own outputs. For example I have softwareconfig for adding a user and some of it's outputs include generated password, private key, sudoer flag, etc | 10:56 |
| stingaci | therve: when I do a stack output show all the outputs relevant to each package are all over the place | 10:56 |
| therve | stingaci, How do you name your outputs? | 10:57 |
| stingaci | for this particular example | 10:58 |
| stingaci | therve: %username%_password, %username%_privatekey, etc | 10:58 |
| therve | stingaci, So can't you order them by name? | 11:02 |
| therve | If you have a good prefix, you can order them however you want | 11:02 |
| stingaci | You mean the output of the `stack output show` command? | 11:03 |
| therve | I mean the argument of the output show command | 11:03 |
| stingaci | oh | 11:04 |
| stingaci | yeah, I use --all | 11:04 |
| therve | That's irrelevant, I mean the output key should have a prefix | 11:05 |
| stingaci | http://pastebin.com/vy3LcGHz | 11:05 |
| stingaci | that's what my output looks like | 11:05 |
| stingaci | you can see output keys have a prefix | 11:06 |
| stingaci | and the ones with the same prefix are not shown together | 11:06 |
| therve | Right, you should parse that and sort them | 11:06 |
| stingaci | Oh yeah, I mean obviously that's always an option | 11:06 |
| stingaci | I was looking for a native solution | 11:07 |
| therve | I guess we could order them by default on the client, but it hasn't been a request before | 11:07 |
| stingaci | I think maintaining the order they were defined in the template would make the most sense | 11:08 |
| * therve shrugs | 11:09 | |
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| wllabs | thank for you therve | 11:44 |
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| zaneb | prazumovsky, skraynev: a bug report describing exactly which aspect it's trying to fix would help a lot. I looked at the patch yesterday, but couldn't figure it out | 13:06 |
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| skraynev | zaneb: ok. I will update bug report. thx for the feedback | 13:35 |
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| skraynev | zaneb: I have updated bug description. So please take a look on the second part of the description. | 13:41 |
| skraynev | the scenario is the same, but another template should be used. | 13:41 |
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| therve | zaneb, Can we chat about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418827/ ? | 16:36 |
| zaneb | therve: ah, yeah, I hadn't read your response yet | 16:37 |
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| zaneb | "To me, depending on a resource that's not created means that you shouldn't be created." | 16:37 |
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| zaneb | that's the current behaviour I guess :D | 16:37 |
| therve | Well, not *really* :) | 16:38 |
| therve | Because it stops all creation | 16:38 |
| zaneb | if you depend on a resource that's not created nothing gets created | 16:38 |
| therve | Well yeah you fail validation | 16:38 |
| zaneb | so I agree with you that what shardy is doing seems weird | 16:39 |
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| therve | OK I thought that was what you were suggesting | 16:39 |
| zaneb | otoh if "depends_on" were called something else (e.g. "starts_after") but otherwise behaved exactly the same, then nobody would disagree that it should still work if the thing you're after isn't actually enabled | 16:41 |
| zaneb | e.g. systemd.unit has Requires and After to distinguish between the two concepts | 16:41 |
| zaneb | we never had to decide before which one we were implementing, because in the absence of conditionals they're the same | 16:42 |
| therve | Agreed | 16:43 |
| therve | It's true that it was always about order before | 16:44 |
| therve | Except... it still waited for the resource to be created? | 16:44 |
| therve | IE it doesn't create the resource if the dependency fails | 16:45 |
| * zaneb thinks of dependencies exclusively as edges in a graph | 16:46 | |
| zaneb | so one way to think about conditionals is that it replaces a node in the graph with a no-op | 16:47 |
| zaneb | another way is that it removes the node and any edges pointing at it become an error | 16:48 |
| therve | Right | 16:48 |
| zaneb | in point of fact, it's implemented the second way | 16:48 |
| therve | Somewhat | 16:48 |
| zaneb | but imo the user shouldn't have to care | 16:48 |
| therve | How so? Doesn't that change the behavior? | 16:49 |
| therve | I mean, I agree the implementation doesn't matter | 16:49 |
| therve | We still need to choose a behavior | 16:50 |
| zaneb | yes, we still need to choose. I guess what I'm saying is that we should choose the Right Thing for the user without necessarily thinking about the details of the current implementation | 16:51 |
| zaneb | obviously reasonable people can still disagree about what the Right Thing for the user is :) | 16:51 |
| * therve nods | 16:51 | |
| zaneb | I wish we had a non-toy example of what shardy is trying to do here | 16:52 |
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| zaneb | I found people on stack overflow complaining about the same bug in CloudFormation: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34607476/cloudformation-apply-condition-on-dependson ... | 16:53 |
| zaneb | but it turns out they were cargo-culting it because they didn't know that Fn::GetAtt creates a dependency, and they didn't actually need it | 16:53 |
| therve | I suspect shardy does have a better example :) | 16:54 |
| zaneb | and the example in the bug is the same | 16:54 |
| zaneb | I'm sure he does | 16:54 |
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| therve | I guess the behavio | 16:56 |
| therve | I guess the implicit behavior is less verbose | 16:56 |
| therve | You don't need conditionals shenanigans in depends_on itself | 16:56 |
| therve | Just to add the condition several times if you want all leaves to not be created | 16:57 |
| zaneb | yeah, it's easier on the author imho | 16:57 |
| therve | Now, how hard it is to implement, I don't know | 16:57 |
| therve | Especially if we want transitive deps | 16:57 |
| therve | One other question is whether or not transitive deps are mandatory | 16:58 |
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| therve | I guess not if you just list all the deps? | 16:58 |
| zaneb | I'd classify transitive deps as a 'nice to have' | 16:59 |
| zaneb | the author can certainly work around that by listing them all explicitly | 16:59 |
| zaneb | and it's arguably more consistent given that get_resource/get_attr transitive deps are probably never going to be feasible | 17:00 |
| therve | Right | 17:00 |
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| therve | OK thanks for the discussion | 17:04 |
| therve | I'll have a go at the alternative and we'll see from there | 17:05 |
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| tbh | Hi, does this image contains heat-agent installed for softwareconfig https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat_integrationtests/prepare_test_env.sh#L54 ? | 17:07 |
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| zaneb | tbh: I believe it does | 17:09 |
| therve | tbh, No it doesn't | 17:09 |
| zaneb | and that's why you should never listen to me | 17:09 |
| tbh | zaneb, :) | 17:10 |
| tbh | therve, how heat is testing softwareconfig functionality? | 17:10 |
| therve | tbh, It's not | 17:10 |
| tbh | therve, oh, any idea from where we can download heat-agent installed images for FTs? | 17:11 |
| therve | tbh, Nope | 17:11 |
| tbh | therve, ok | 17:11 |
| therve | tbh, It's mostly an infra problem... We used to build an image, but there is no way to share it between the various infra clouds | 17:13 |
| tbh | therve, ah ok | 17:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Crag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Resource attrs for stack outputs stored in sync_point https://review.openstack.org/418704 | 18:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Unit tests: Don't mock client_plugin for Zaqar subscription https://review.openstack.org/419584 | 18:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Ignore dependency errors with conditions https://review.openstack.org/419588 | 18:22 |
| therve | zaneb, ^^^ | 18:22 |
| * zaneb looks | 18:23 | |
| zaneb | therve: quick and dirty. I like it :) | 18:27 |
| therve | Heh | 18:28 |
| therve | I mean, not *that* dirty :) | 18:28 |
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| zaneb | the whole stack.t[] stuff is something I'd like to go away in favour of having actual APIs, but that's not going to happen any time soon I expect | 18:29 |
| zaneb | therve: btw ifilter is going to fail on python 3 | 18:31 |
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| jidar | is it normal for a heat stack to immediately fail with this message: Resource CHECK failed: ["Error: resources.server1: 'status': expected 'ACTIVE', got 'BUILD'"]. 'CHECK' not fully supported (see resources) | 20:26 |
| jidar | I hit recheck a few times and then it says it's ok | 20:27 |
| jidar | I guess I'm confused why there seems to be no timeout for waiting for resources to come online | 20:27 |
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| zaneb | jidar: pretty sure that was a bug that was fixed very recently | 20:47 |
| jidar | zaneb: what about FloatingIP creating a new allocating and then association? It seems like if I want to use a floating IP I must first create a new allocation (not associate it) and then run my stack | 20:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Ignore dependency errors with conditions https://review.openstack.org/419588 | 20:52 |
| zaneb | jidar: not sure I follow you there. you can allocate a floating IP in the stack | 20:52 |
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| jidar | hurm, let me retry with OS::Neutron::FloatingIPAssociation | 20:54 |
| jidar | is that the resource that actually does the allocation out of the pool? | 20:54 |
| jidar | (basically how you hit the little + button to get a new IP) | 20:55 |
| zaneb | no, I think that just associates an existing on | 20:55 |
| zaneb | one | 20:55 |
| zaneb | hence the name | 20:55 |
| jidar | right, so when I do OS::Neutron::FloatingIP it doesn't make a new allocation | 20:55 |
| jidar | hence the stack works but there is no resource identified next to my floating ip resource name | 20:56 |
| jidar | if I allocate out a new IP and then don't assoicate it, run the stack again it uses that one | 20:56 |
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| zaneb | so you have both an OS::Neutron::FloatingIP and an OS::Neutron::FloatingIPAssociation but nothing happens? | 20:57 |
| jidar | only the prior | 20:57 |
| jidar | and yes | 20:57 |
| jidar | I'm going to take some screenshots for you and upload a bit of yaml so hopefully this will make sense | 20:58 |
| jidar | give me a minute | 20:58 |
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| zaneb | jidar: you need both | 20:59 |
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| jidar | ah ok, that was the problem - tested and confirmed. Thanks! | 21:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Crag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Resource attrs for stack outputs stored in sync_point https://review.openstack.org/418704 | 21:41 |
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| jidar | hurm, does this not ever complete? | 22:28 |
| jidar | zaneb: I bumped up the timeout to 3200 which causes the stack not to fail right away but it also seems to never complete despite all resources being done | 22:29 |
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| jidar | OS::Neutron::FloatingIPAssociation, 50 minutes, Init Complete | 22:29 |
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| jidar | that's the only element that doesn't have a create complete | 22:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/heat: [WIP] python3 experiment - ignore me https://review.openstack.org/417887 | 23:04 |
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| cwolferh | zaneb, there go my hopes for a small patch :-D | 23:32 |
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