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| openstackgerrit | Jan Provaznik proposed openstack/heat: Add CEPHFS manila share protocol https://review.openstack.org/424061 | 11:12 |
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| Deep_Thought | Hello, in a user_data section of a heat template, I have a bash script with a unicode caracter (U+00E9), which seems to confuse Heat | 11:17 |
| Deep_Thought | Is there a way to make Heat accept unicode chars in templates? | 11:18 |
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| cmyster | Deep_Thought: you could try to define an external script, but if you think it sould work like that and it doesn't, feel free to open a bug | 11:44 |
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| Deep_Thought | cmyster: That was in a external script btw | 12:40 |
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| cmyster | Deep_Thought: so the 2nd option :) | 12:41 |
| Deep_Thought | yep, first I'll check if that bug is already mentionned somewhere ? | 12:42 |
| Deep_Thought | right ? | 12:42 |
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| therve | zaneb, Hi, you around? Wanted to chat about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420664/ | 14:45 |
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| zaneb | yo | 14:45 |
| zaneb | was just looking at that spec :) | 14:45 |
| therve | Mostly I'm wondering if we should do the implementation in 2 steps | 14:47 |
| therve | IE do the software component behavior afterwards | 14:47 |
| zaneb | I really think we should _not_ do that :) | 14:47 |
| zaneb | that's what we did with sw config/component and imho it was a mistake in retrospect | 14:48 |
| therve | Why's that? | 14:48 |
| zaneb | now we know enough to avoid that mistake first time out | 14:48 |
| therve | Well *you* know maybe :) | 14:49 |
| zaneb | because it breaks the noun model. it's not a bunch of scripts collectively managing the state of some single external resource, but a bunch of verbs masquerading as independent nouns | 14:49 |
| zaneb | therve: you saw http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110624.html I assume? | 14:51 |
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| therve | Yes | 14:51 |
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| therve | zaneb, What I don't understand is how SoftwareComponent really improves it. Is it just a matter of regrouping several configs into one? | 14:52 |
| therve | I don't undestand how it changes the interface fundamentally | 14:52 |
| therve | Oh wait | 14:52 |
| therve | I guess the current resource is already a mix of deployment and config | 14:53 |
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| zaneb | yes, so the difference we are talking about is config+deployment vs. component+deployment | 14:54 |
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| therve | Right I can see why component is better than config because it includes actions | 14:55 |
| zaneb | yeah | 14:55 |
| therve | But here we have actions, just a single one instead of a list | 14:56 |
| therve | Or rather a single workflow attached, instead of a list of workflows | 14:56 |
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| zaneb | it's exactly the same a resource plugin. you have one resource to manage some thing, with handle_create/handle_update/handle_delete actions & a way to decide whether an update replaces or runs handle_update | 14:56 |
| zaneb | therve: yep, exactly | 14:57 |
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| therve | zaneb, I guess I'm arguing "The user should not have to assemble the different phases". He still will, but with only one resource instead of several | 14:58 |
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| zaneb | only relative to other resources. if you can say what the thing depends on and what depends on it, then the create/update/delete will all happen in the right place | 14:59 |
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| zaneb | c.f. creating a separate create deployment, update deployment and delete deployment - now you need to know where those all go in relation to each other | 15:00 |
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| zaneb | and the average user will likely get this wrong, because it's unintuitive | 15:01 |
| therve | But don't you need to know when it's inside a component too? | 15:01 |
| zaneb | e.g. delete deployment needs to go *before* things that need the thing being deleted | 15:01 |
| zaneb | no because it's atomically contained in a single resource | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Tanvir Talukder proposed openstack/heat: Fix for resources stuck in progress after engine crash https://review.openstack.org/386741 | 15:02 |
| therve | OK, I guess | 15:03 |
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| zaneb | therve: so e.g. you have some software where you need to reserve a license from a license server before installing it: http://paste.openstack.org/show/596065/ | 15:10 |
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| zaneb | therve: so you and I know how to do it the first way in that example, but it's most definitely not obvious to anybody off the street in the way that the second example hopefully is | 15:14 |
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| therve | zaneb, That's fair | 15:15 |
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| therve | zaneb, My main thought is that managing lists is a resource is not fantastic. I'm not sold on the readability of SoftwareComponent in general | 15:17 |
| therve | s/is a resource/in a resource | 15:17 |
| zaneb | I feel your pain | 15:17 |
| zaneb | honestly, it could be separate properties | 15:18 |
| zaneb | create_workflow: | 15:18 |
| zaneb | update_workflow: | 15:18 |
| zaneb | delete_workflow: | 15:18 |
| zaneb | all optional | 15:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Don't look at convergence_engine conf option in Resource https://review.openstack.org/423354 | 17:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Crag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Subcommand to migrate legacy properties data https://review.openstack.org/364710 | 17:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Crag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Eager load event's rsrc prop data when appropiate https://review.openstack.org/405004 | 17:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Crag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Lazy-load resource_properties_data for events https://review.openstack.org/368188 | 17:37 |
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| cwolferh | ramishra, therve, zaneb: just a ping about the above reviews, probably going to need some attention this week if going to get merged by end-of-week feature freeze | 17:49 |
| zaneb | cwolferh: ack. we definitely need that first one in so I'm going to review asap | 17:50 |
| cwolferh | zaneb, thanks | 17:50 |
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| stevebaker | therve: hey, are you about? | 19:31 |
| zaneb | cwolferh: quick question, is the 'legacy' stuff in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363415/19/heat/engine/event.py *only* for unit tests | 19:37 |
| zaneb | ? | 19:37 |
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| cwolferh | zaneb, yes, for storing the event, yes | 19:41 |
| zaneb | ok I'll delete these comments then ;) | 19:42 |
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| cwolferh | zaneb, i think i may have missed a cleanup in that init though. :/ will revist that | 19:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Delete accidental artifact https://review.openstack.org/424311 | 20:05 |
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| zaneb | is the grenade gate borked? | 20:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-agents: Cleanup temp files in tests https://review.openstack.org/416925 | 21:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-templates: Add zaqar.use_websockets option to o-c-c https://review.openstack.org/414335 | 22:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat-specs: Add Pike directory https://review.openstack.org/424358 | 22:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat-specs: Stable StackDefinition API for template plugins https://review.openstack.org/424359 | 22:31 |
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| therve | stevebaker, There now! | 22:36 |
| stevebaker | therve: hey, I've been talking heat-agents packaging with zaneb in RDO. Should I propose an upstream heat-agents-1.0.0 upstream as a first release? | 22:37 |
| stevebaker | therve, zaneb: thanks for picking this up btw | 22:38 |
| therve | stevebaker, I guess we were waiting for ocata-3? | 22:38 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: they said there's no hurry to do a release. we were planning one this week for o-3 anyway | 22:38 |
| therve | The idea is to sync the release cycle I believe | 22:38 |
| stevebaker | ok | 22:38 |
| therve | stevebaker, If you could review the repo content that'd be great though :) | 22:39 |
| stevebaker | therve: yeah, I'm taking a look | 22:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat-specs: Stable StackDefinition API for template plugins https://review.openstack.org/424359 | 22:40 |
| therve | Cool thanks | 22:40 |
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| therve | zaneb, And yeah grenade seems broken with a requirements issue :/ | 22:47 |
| therve | Don't know if we're the only one impacted | 22:47 |
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| therve | zaneb, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424323/ should fix us | 22:53 |
| zaneb | therve: cool, thank you | 22:54 |
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